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16th Jul '17 4:22:24 PM NightShade96
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** In Season 2, [[Comicbook/BlackCanary Sara]] is obsessed with killing Damian Darhk whenever they encounter him in timeline, since he will one day [[spoiler: murder her sister [[Comicbook/BlackCanary Laurel]]]], to the point where she will thoughtlessly abandon any mission the Legends happen to be on for the smallest chance to kill him. To make things worse, Darhk is destined [[spoiler: to be killed by GreenArrow in 2016]], so killing him in the past would cause massive damage to the timeline, and damage to the timeline is the very thing the [[TimePolice Legends]] are trying to ''prevent''.

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** In Season 2, [[Comicbook/BlackCanary Sara]] is obsessed with killing Damian Darhk whenever they encounter him in timeline, since he will one day [[spoiler: murder her sister [[Comicbook/BlackCanary Laurel]]]], to the point where she will thoughtlessly abandon any mission the Legends happen to be on for the smallest chance to kill him. To make things worse, Darhk is destined [[spoiler: to be killed by GreenArrow ComicBook/GreenArrow in 2016]], so killing him in the past would cause massive damage to the timeline, and damage to the timeline is the very thing the [[TimePolice Legends]] are trying to ''prevent''.
10th Jul '17 5:46:43 PM Materioptikon
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* ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'' gives us Kaguya Houraisan and Fujiwara no Mokou, two immortal girls who are perpetually trying to kill each other despite knowing that they can't die. [[SillyReasonForWar The reason behind their feud is pretty pathetic]] too; it's all because Kaguya humiliated Mokou's father centuries ago. That said, it's been heavily implied even that justification is nothing but an excuse on Mokou's part, if only to have the barest scrap of an actual relationship of any kind. To make it even stranger, both actually greatly enjoy the act of murdering and dying.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'' gives us Kaguya Houraisan and Fujiwara no Mokou, two immortal girls who are perpetually trying to kill each other despite knowing that they can't die. [[SillyReasonForWar The reason behind their feud is pretty pathetic]] too; it's all because Kaguya humiliated Mokou's father centuries ago. That said, it's been heavily implied even that justification is nothing but an excuse on Mokou's part, if only to have the barest scrap of an actual relationship of any kind. To make it even stranger, both actually greatly enjoy the act of murdering and dying.
10th Jul '17 5:45:57 PM Materioptikon
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* ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'' gives us Kaguya Houraisan and Fujiwara no Mokou, two immortal girls who are perpetually trying to kill each other despite knowing that they can't die. [[SillyReasonForWar The reason behind their feud is pretty pathetic]] too; it's all because Kaguya humiliated Mokou's father centuries ago.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'' gives us Kaguya Houraisan and Fujiwara no Mokou, two immortal girls who are perpetually trying to kill each other despite knowing that they can't die. [[SillyReasonForWar The reason behind their feud is pretty pathetic]] too; it's all because Kaguya humiliated Mokou's father centuries ago. That said, it's been heavily implied even that justification is nothing but an excuse on Mokou's part, if only to have the barest scrap of an actual relationship of any kind. To make it even stranger, both actually greatly enjoy the act of murdering and dying.
27th Jun '17 6:40:37 PM FastFuriousFan
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* ''Series/{{Breaking Bad}}'': Skyler White sits through her husband Walter's sins unable to really do anything until the death of Hank, her sister's husband. Thinking that Walter killed him (he didn't directly kill Hank, but his actions ultimately caused Hank's death), Skyler decides not to call 911 to get Walt arrested, but to take matters into her own hands. Picking up a kitchen knife instead, [[GetOut she tries to tell Walt to leave.]] However, this was a ruse, as she wouldn't let him get away with what happened to Hank (actually forcing him to leave would make him [[KarmaHoudini get away with his sins.]]) Walt tries to talk her out of attacking and/or killing him, but she slashes him. In order to stop her harming him any further, [[BerserkButton an enraged Walt lunges at her to forcibly take the knife from her to save himself]], until Walt Jr. throws him off her and then calls 911 to get Walter arrested. This eliminates the need for Skyler to attack him again, but Walt then escapes, kidnapping the only family member he didn't believe knew enough to turn against him--his infant daughter Holly. [[IWantMyMommy Unfortunately, he was wrong.]] Despite never forgiving her husband for his sins, Skyler abandoned any plans to harm Walt when he tried to exonerate her for any involvement in his crimes pretending to be an abusive husband berating her for not supporting her, and when he later returned Holly to her via the Fire Department. Not to mention when Walt came back to tell her he found another way or securing their future than drug money, gave to coordinates to Hank and Gomez's bodies, and reveal that becoming a drug dealer was for himself, not his family.

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* ''Series/{{Breaking Bad}}'': Skyler White sits through her husband Walter's sins unable to really do anything until [[spoiler:until the death of Hank, her sister's husband.husband, in "Ozymandias". Thinking that Walter killed him (he didn't directly kill Hank, but his actions ultimately caused Hank's death), Skyler decides not to call 911 to get Walt arrested, but to take matters into her own hands. Picking up a kitchen knife instead, [[GetOut she tries to tell Walt to leave.]] However, this was a ruse, as she wouldn't let him get away with what happened to Hank (actually forcing him to leave would make him [[KarmaHoudini get away with his sins.]]) Walt tries to talk her out of attacking and/or killing him, but she slashes him. In order to stop her harming him any further, [[BerserkButton an enraged Walt lunges at her to forcibly take the knife from her to save himself]], until Walt Jr. throws him off her and then calls 911 to get Walter arrested. This eliminates the need for Skyler to attack him again, but Walt then escapes, kidnapping the only family member he didn't believe knew enough to turn against him--his infant daughter Holly. [[IWantMyMommy Unfortunately, he was wrong.]] Despite never forgiving her husband for his sins, Skyler abandoned any plans to harm Walt when he tried to exonerate her for any involvement in his crimes pretending to be an abusive husband berating her for not supporting her, and when he later returned Holly to her via the Fire Department. Not to mention when Walt came back in [[SeriesFinale "Felina"]] to tell her he found another way or securing their future than drug money, gave to coordinates to Hank and Gomez's bodies, and reveal that becoming a drug dealer was for himself, not his family.family. Then, he left before Flynn (formerly Walter Jr.) came home, as he made it clear he wanted his father dead for his crimes in the previous episode, "Granite State." Flynn got his wish off-screen by the end of the episode thought it's unclear if he ever knew or cared that Walt died partially making amends putting an end to his own drug empire.]]
27th Jun '17 6:33:40 PM FastFuriousFan
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* ''Series/{{Breaking Bad}}'': Skyler White sits through her husband Walter's sins unable to really do anything until the death of Hank, her sister's husband. Thinking that Walter killed him (he didn't directly kill Hank, but his actions ultimately caused Hank's death), Skyler decides not to call 911 to get Walt arrested, but to take matters into her own hands. Picking up a kitchen knife instead, [[GetOut she tries to tell Walt to leave.]] However, this was a ruse, as she wouldn't let him get away with what happened to Hank (actually forcing him to leave would make him [[KarmaHoudini get away with his sins.]]) Walt tries to talk her out of attacking and/or killing him, but she slashes him. In order to stop her harming him any further, [[BerserkButton an enraged Walt lunges at her to forcibly take the knife from her to save himself]], until Walt Jr. throws him off her and then calls 911 to get Walter arrested. This eliminates the need for Skyler to attack him again, but Walt then escapes, kidnapping the only family member he didn't believe knew enough to turn against him--his infant daughter Holly. [[IWantMyMommy Unfortunately, he was wrong.]] Despite never forgiving her husband for his sins, Skyler abandoned any plans to harm Walt when he tried to exonerate her for any involvement in his crimes pretending to be an abusive husband berating her for not supporting her, and when he later returned Holly to her via the Fire Department. Not to mention when Walt came back to tell her he found another way or securing their future than drug money, gave to coordinates to Hank and Gomez's bodies, and reveal that becoming a drug dealer was for himself, not his family.
19th Jun '17 1:12:07 PM gb00393
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** Harald Karstark tries to convince the Boltons that they should kill Jon Snow because he still represents a Stark threat looming over their domain and because he wants to avenge his father, never mind that Jon's position as Lord Commander to the Night's Watch means he is required to forsake any lands and titles and also trying to target the Night's Watch would quickly earn the enmity of all other Northern houses. Roose refuses to pursue this idea which leads to Harald becoming an accomplice by inaction to Roose's murder, letting Ramsay kill him so he can take his place and go through their plan to march into Castle Black.
17th Jun '17 11:00:28 AM infernape612
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* What cemented Peridot's HeelFaceTurn in ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' is realizing that Yellow Diamond, whom she's always revered as a Gem of logic and reason, is subject to this trope: she doesn't care how useful Earth and its resources can be, she just wants it destroyed out of revenge for all the trouble that planet and the Crystal Gems on it caused her. Cue the BrokenPedestal. Becomes an even bigger example later on with TheReveal that [[spoiler:Homeworld is running out of resources and Yellow Diamond throwing out Peridot's suggestion of getting Earth's resources ''without'' ruining it's ability to support organic life or harm it (a win win situation)is throwing away resources they desperately need, but she's beyond caring at that point.]] A later reveal by [[BloodKnight Jasper]] of all people [[spoiler:suggests that part of Yellow Diamond's hatred for Earth is cemented in the fact Rose was responsible for the death of her fellow Diamond [[UnPerson Pink Diamond]], something that she hasn't forgiven her or Earth by extension for]], which suddenly makes her seemingly irrational hatred a bit more justified.

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* What cemented Peridot's HeelFaceTurn in ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' is realizing that Yellow Diamond, whom she's always revered as a Gem of logic and reason, is subject to this trope: she doesn't care how useful Earth and its resources can be, she just wants it destroyed out of revenge for all the trouble that planet and the Crystal Gems on it caused her. Cue the BrokenPedestal. Becomes an even bigger example later on with TheReveal that [[spoiler:Homeworld is running out of resources and Yellow Diamond throwing out Peridot's suggestion of getting Earth's resources ''without'' ruining it's its ability to support organic life or harm it (a win win situation)is situation) is throwing away resources they desperately need, but she's beyond caring at that point.]] A later reveal by [[BloodKnight Jasper]] of all people [[spoiler:suggests that part of Yellow Diamond's hatred for Earth is cemented in the fact Rose was responsible for the death of her fellow Diamond [[UnPerson Pink Diamond]], something that she hasn't forgiven her or Earth by extension for]], which suddenly makes her seemingly irrational hatred a bit more justified.



* ''WesternAnimation/WileECoyoteAndTheRoadrunner'': After a certain point, it becomes clear that Wile E. Coyote is really motivated more by this trope than by his ostensible motivations of desire for food. Many of his traps would kill the roadrunner in ways that would render the corpse totally inedible, but Coyote has come to care more about seeing the roadrunner dead than feeding himself or not getting maimed constantly on account of the Roadrunner's [[RealityWarper reality-warping powers]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/WileECoyoteAndTheRoadrunner'': ''WesternAnimation/WileECoyoteAndTheRoadRunner'': After a certain point, it becomes clear that Wile E. Coyote is really motivated more by this trope than by his ostensible motivations of desire for food. Many of his traps would kill the roadrunner in ways that would render the corpse totally inedible, but Coyote has come to care more about seeing the roadrunner dead than feeding himself or not getting maimed constantly on account of the Roadrunner's [[RealityWarper reality-warping powers]].
17th Jun '17 10:35:51 AM infernape612
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* ''Literature/TheCountOfMonteCristo'': [[spoiler: Dantes' finds himself free, talented, and ridiculously wealthy. It reaches the point where he's able to offer bribes to the pope, bankrupt a major French bank, construct multiple elaborate secret identities, buy up half of the French property market, and care for a beautiful foreign princess. He could sail off into the sunset, attempt to live out a long and happy life... But by this point he is a broken man. Obsessed with vengeance.]] [[spoiler: [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone He eventually snaps out of it]]. [[VillainousBSOD But only when he sees the consequences of his actions]].]]

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* ''Literature/TheCountOfMonteCristo'': [[spoiler: Dantes' Dantès finds himself free, talented, and ridiculously wealthy. It reaches the point where he's able to offer bribes to the pope, bankrupt a major French bank, construct multiple elaborate secret identities, buy up half of the French property market, and care for a beautiful foreign princess. He could sail off into the sunset, attempt to live out a long and happy life... But by this point he is a broken man. Obsessed man obsessed with vengeance.]] [[spoiler: [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone He eventually snaps out of it]]. it]], [[VillainousBSOD But but only when he sees the consequences of his actions]].]]
17th Jun '17 10:32:59 AM infernape612
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* In ''FireEmblem'', Raven is thrown in a jail cell with some Caelin soldiers and his best friend/servant, Lucius. He then betrays them to fight for the enemy in hopes that he could kill your main lord, Hector of Ostia. No matter how much evidence is presented that Hector is innocent of the crime Raven pins him with and no matter how often his friend and sister tell him to give it up, he's quite willing to throw his life on the line to try and take a chunk out of him.

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* In ''FireEmblem'', ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBlazingBlade'', Raven is thrown in a jail cell with some Caelin soldiers and his best friend/servant, Lucius. He then betrays them to fight for the enemy in hopes the hope that he could kill your main lord, Hector of Ostia. No matter how much evidence is presented that Hector is innocent of the crime Raven pins blames him with for and no matter how often his friend and sister tell him to give it up, he's quite willing to throw his life on the line to try and take a chunk out of him.
16th Jun '17 7:32:03 AM gb00393
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** Ser Loras Tyrell is ready to storm out of King Renly Baratheon's tent to put a sword through Stannis Baratheon's righteous face, but his sister Margaery and Littlefinger manage to convince him that it would be hopeless, as he would be killed by Stannis' men long before he ever reached his target.


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** Rickard wants to execute Jaime even though he's a valuable hostage. He's even aware that it doesn't make sense, but his love for his sons ran deep.
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