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26th Aug '16 7:51:27 PM Nintendoman01
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* In ''Manga/DragonBallZ'', Frieza could have chosen to escape, but he spends his remaining energy trying to kill Goku, which [[BackstabBackfire backfires spectacularly]]. This also crosses into FantasticRacism; Frieza is so shocked that he was defeated by a Saiyan, whom he disregarded as "mere monkeys," that he can't accept that he is defeated even though he's missing an arm and the lower half of his body.

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* In ''Manga/DragonBallZ'', Frieza could have chosen to escape, but he spends his remaining energy trying to kill Goku, which [[BackstabBackfire backfires spectacularly]]. This also crosses into FantasticRacism; Frieza is so shocked that he was defeated by a Saiyan, whom he disregarded as "mere monkeys," that he can't accept that he is defeated even though he's missing an arm and the lower half of his body. Ever since then, his ''entire purpose in life'' is to get revenge on Goku for defeating and humiliating him; in ''[[Anime/DragonBallZResurrectionF Resurrection 'F']]'', he even states outright that he can't stand to live in the same ''universe'' as Goku, and as long as Goku is still alive, he can't even sleep at night.



** This is the basis for his entire plan after being resurrected in ''[[Anime/DragonBallZResurrectionF Resurrection 'F']]''. He could have simply rebuilt his empire in space with the Z Fighters none the wiser, but he instead goes through TrainingFromHell to unlock a new SuperMode before launching a full-scale invasion of Earth, all to get revenge on Goku for his previous defeat. It's to the extent that when one of his minions begs him to just leave Goku alone and focus on rebuilding his empire, Frieza kills him on the spot. [[spoiler:This ends up being his undoing: Freeza rushed to Earth to get revenge as soon as he achieved his new SuperMode, not realizing its massive FatalFlaw (it burns through his stamina at an incredible rate). Even though he was technically more powerful than Goku or Vegeta (AND actually manages to mortally wound Goku), he can't seal before he runs out of stamina and drops back to a weaker form, leaving him easy pickings for Vegeta.]]

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** This is the basis for his entire plan after being resurrected in ''[[Anime/DragonBallZResurrectionF Resurrection 'F']]''.''Resurrection 'F'''. He could have simply rebuilt his empire in space with the Z Fighters none the wiser, but he instead goes through TrainingFromHell to unlock a new SuperMode before launching a full-scale invasion of Earth, all to get revenge on Goku for his previous defeat. It's to the extent that when one of his minions begs him to just leave Goku alone and focus on rebuilding his empire, Frieza kills him on the spot. [[spoiler:This ends up being his undoing: Freeza rushed to Earth to get revenge as soon as he achieved his new SuperMode, not realizing its massive FatalFlaw (it burns through his stamina at an incredible rate). Even though he was technically more powerful than Goku or Vegeta (AND actually manages to mortally wound Goku), he can't seal before he runs out of stamina and drops back to a weaker form, leaving him easy pickings for Vegeta.]]



*** During the Buu Saga, Vegeta, in order to top Goku, deliberately lets Babidi turn him into a Majin in an attempt to bridge the gap between them. He knew that the energy released by the fight would revive [[SealedEvilInACan Majin Buu]], but he was so obsessed with beating Goku that he ''just didn't care.'' It turns out to be AllForNothing, as Goku had unlocked Super Saiyan 3 and had been holding back all the while.

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*** During the Buu Saga, Vegeta, in order to top Goku, deliberately lets Babidi turn him into a Majin in an attempt to bridge the gap between them. He knew that the energy released by the fight would revive [[SealedEvilInACan Majin Buu]], but he was so obsessed with beating Goku that he ''just didn't care.'' It turns out to be AllForNothing, as Goku had unlocked Super Saiyan 3 From that point on, the remainder the Buu Saga consists of the rest of the universe paying the price for Vegeta's selfishness and had been holding back all the while.obsession.



* ''FanFic/RosarioVampireBrightestDarkness Act VI'' has one in Talon Ryashen. He was once an ordinary boy who was kidnapped off of the streets by Fairy Tale and used in their SuperSoldier experiments, being infused with Alucard's blood and becoming a HalfHumanHybrid; as a result, Talon was rejected and disowned by his own family and seeks to [[GottaKillEmAll hunt down and kill]] ''every'' last member of Fairy Tale, including those who were LockedOutOfTheLoop, defected, or simple non-combatants. Despite having been repeatedly told that the members of Fairy Tale who were truly responsible for his condition are dead, Talon refuses to see the situation in anything but black-and-white; as he puts it, Fairy Tale took everything from him, and he has nothing left to live for but vengeance.

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* ''FanFic/RosarioVampireBrightestDarkness Act VI'' has one in Talon Ryashen. He was once an ordinary boy who was kidnapped off of the streets by Fairy Tale and used in their SuperSoldier experiments, being infused with Alucard's blood and becoming a HalfHumanHybrid; as a result, Talon was rejected and disowned by his own family and seeks to [[GottaKillEmAll hunt down and kill]] ''every'' last member of Fairy Tale, including those who were LockedOutOfTheLoop, defected, or simple non-combatants. Despite having been repeatedly told that the members of Fairy Tale who were truly responsible for his condition are dead, Talon [[KnightTemplar refuses to see the situation in anything but black-and-white; black-and-white]]; as he puts it, far as he's concerned, ''everyone'' who was ''ever'' a member of Fairy Tale took everything from him, for ''any'' reason is equally responsible for his condition, and he has nothing left won't stop until they're all dead. It's even been mentioned in-universe by more than one character that Talon simply will ''not'' listen to live for but vengeance.reason.
26th Aug '16 7:03:05 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'': In the episode "The Big Bang Theory", Bertram decides to travel back in time to RetGone Stewie by killing his ancestor, none other than [[HistoricalDomainCharacter Leonardo da Vinci]], unaware that, as a result of a time paradox, Stewie was the one that caused the BigBang and that erasing him would destroy the universe, including himself. Even after Brian and Stewie tell him as such, Bertram, after a brief hesitation, promptly declares that getting rid of Stewie is worth the end of the universe and promptly shoots da Vinci dead. However, Stewie preserves events by [[MyOwnGrampa becoming his own ancestor]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'': In the episode "The Big Bang Theory", Bertram decides to travel back in time to RetGone Stewie by killing his ancestor, none other than [[HistoricalDomainCharacter Leonardo da Vinci]], unaware that, as a result of a time paradox, Stewie was the one that caused the BigBang Big Bang and that erasing him would destroy the universe, including himself. Even after Brian and Stewie tell him as such, Bertram, after a brief hesitation, promptly declares that getting rid of Stewie is worth the end of the universe and promptly shoots da Vinci dead. However, Stewie preserves events by [[MyOwnGrampa becoming his own ancestor]].
12th Aug '16 10:39:08 PM Faolin
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** The above incident inspires a lot of this trope when combined with the fact Steven is often mistaken for Rose by Homeworld gems. Jasper [[spoiler: refuses to accept healing from her hated enemy, even while being turned into a monster]], and one Homeworld Ruby [[spoiler: tries to kill Steven even though succeeding would trap her alone in space forever]].
9th Aug '16 5:19:49 PM Prometheus117
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* What cemented Peridot's HeelFaceTurn in ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' is realizing that Yellow Diamond, whom she's always revered as a Gem of logic and reason, is subject to this trope: she doesn't care how useful Earth and its resources can be, she just wants it destroyed out of revenge for all the trouble that planet and the Crystal Gems on it caused her. Cue the BrokenPedestal. Becomes an even bigger example later on with TheReveal that [[spoiler:Homeworld is running out of resources and Yellow Diamond throwing out Peridot's suggestion of getting Earth's resources ''without'' ruining it's ability to support organic life or harm it (a win win situation)is throwing away resources they desperately need, but she's beyond caring at that point.]] A later reveal by [[BloodKnight Jasper]] of all people [[spoiler:suggests that part of Yellow Diamond's hatred for Earth is cemented in the fact Rose was responsible for ''[[NoodleIncident something]]'' happening to her fellow Diamond [[UnPerson Pink Diamond]], something that she hasn't forgiven her or Earth by extension for]], which suddenly makes her seemingly irrational hatred a bit more justified.

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* What cemented Peridot's HeelFaceTurn in ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' is realizing that Yellow Diamond, whom she's always revered as a Gem of logic and reason, is subject to this trope: she doesn't care how useful Earth and its resources can be, she just wants it destroyed out of revenge for all the trouble that planet and the Crystal Gems on it caused her. Cue the BrokenPedestal. Becomes an even bigger example later on with TheReveal that [[spoiler:Homeworld is running out of resources and Yellow Diamond throwing out Peridot's suggestion of getting Earth's resources ''without'' ruining it's ability to support organic life or harm it (a win win situation)is throwing away resources they desperately need, but she's beyond caring at that point.]] A later reveal by [[BloodKnight Jasper]] of all people [[spoiler:suggests that part of Yellow Diamond's hatred for Earth is cemented in the fact Rose was responsible for ''[[NoodleIncident something]]'' happening to the death of her fellow Diamond [[UnPerson Pink Diamond]], something that she hasn't forgiven her or Earth by extension for]], which suddenly makes her seemingly irrational hatred a bit more justified.
9th Aug '16 11:20:03 AM Prometheus117
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* What cemented Peridot's HeelFaceTurn in ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' is realizing that Yellow Diamond, whom she's always revered as a Gem of logic and reason, is subject to this trope: she doesn't care how useful Earth and its resources can be, she just wants it destroyed out of revenge for all the trouble that planet and the Crystal Gems on it caused her. Cue the BrokenPedestal. Becomes an even bigger example later on with TheReveal that [[spoiler:Homeworld is running out of resources and Yellow Diamond throwing out Peridot's suggestion of getting Earth's resources ''without'' ruining it's ability to support organic life or harm it (a win win situation)is throwing away resources they desperately need, but she's beyond caring at that point.]] A later reveal by [[BloodKnight Jasper]] of all people [[spoiler:suggests that part of Yellow Diamond's hatred for Earth is cemented in the fact Rose was responsible for ''[[NoodleIncident something]]'' happening to her fellow Diamond [[UnPerson Pink Diamond]], something that she hasn't forgiven her or Earth by extension for]].

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* What cemented Peridot's HeelFaceTurn in ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' is realizing that Yellow Diamond, whom she's always revered as a Gem of logic and reason, is subject to this trope: she doesn't care how useful Earth and its resources can be, she just wants it destroyed out of revenge for all the trouble that planet and the Crystal Gems on it caused her. Cue the BrokenPedestal. Becomes an even bigger example later on with TheReveal that [[spoiler:Homeworld is running out of resources and Yellow Diamond throwing out Peridot's suggestion of getting Earth's resources ''without'' ruining it's ability to support organic life or harm it (a win win situation)is throwing away resources they desperately need, but she's beyond caring at that point.]] A later reveal by [[BloodKnight Jasper]] of all people [[spoiler:suggests that part of Yellow Diamond's hatred for Earth is cemented in the fact Rose was responsible for ''[[NoodleIncident something]]'' happening to her fellow Diamond [[UnPerson Pink Diamond]], something that she hasn't forgiven her or Earth by extension for]].for]], which suddenly makes her seemingly irrational hatred a bit more justified.
9th Aug '16 11:17:53 AM Prometheus117
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* What cemented Peridot's HeelFaceTurn in ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' is realizing that Yellow Diamond, whom she's always revered as a Gem of logic and reason, is subject to this trope: she doesn't care how useful Earth and its resources can be, she just wants it destroyed out of revenge for all the trouble that planet and the Crystal Gems on it caused her. Cue the BrokenPedestal. Becomes an even bigger example later on with TheReveal that [[spoiler:Homeworld is running out of resources and Yellow Diamond throwing out Peridot's suggestion of getting Earth's resources ''without'' ruining it's ability to support organic life or harm it (a win win situation)is throwing away resources they desperately need, but she's beyond caring at that point.]]

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* What cemented Peridot's HeelFaceTurn in ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' is realizing that Yellow Diamond, whom she's always revered as a Gem of logic and reason, is subject to this trope: she doesn't care how useful Earth and its resources can be, she just wants it destroyed out of revenge for all the trouble that planet and the Crystal Gems on it caused her. Cue the BrokenPedestal. Becomes an even bigger example later on with TheReveal that [[spoiler:Homeworld is running out of resources and Yellow Diamond throwing out Peridot's suggestion of getting Earth's resources ''without'' ruining it's ability to support organic life or harm it (a win win situation)is throwing away resources they desperately need, but she's beyond caring at that point.]]]] A later reveal by [[BloodKnight Jasper]] of all people [[spoiler:suggests that part of Yellow Diamond's hatred for Earth is cemented in the fact Rose was responsible for ''[[NoodleIncident something]]'' happening to her fellow Diamond [[UnPerson Pink Diamond]], something that she hasn't forgiven her or Earth by extension for]].
4th Aug '16 9:05:07 PM Loekman3
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* In ''VideoGame/GodOfWar III'', Kratos is so completely blinded by his desire to kill Zeus and eventually all the gods, he refuses to listen to other people who tell them that, like, maybe ''killing the sun'' in pursuit of Zeus wouldn't be such for a good thing for the world at large. Nope, he's got to have his vengeance! Eventually however he starts to see the consequences of his actions [[spoiler:and chooses to sacrifice himself to give the power of hope to humanity in an attempt to salvage the world he obliterated.]]

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* In ''VideoGame/GodOfWar III'', ''VideoGame/GodOfWarIII'', Kratos is so completely blinded by his desire to kill Zeus and eventually all the gods, he refuses to listen to other people who tell them that, like, maybe ''killing the sun'' in pursuit of Zeus wouldn't be such for a good thing for the world at large. Nope, he's got to have his vengeance! Eventually however he starts to see the consequences of his actions [[spoiler:and chooses to sacrifice himself to give the power of hope to humanity in an attempt to salvage the world he obliterated.]]
2nd Aug '16 9:21:33 AM Medinoc
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* Sarda in ''Webcomic/EightBitTheater'' wants the so-called "Light Warriors" to suffer for all the harm they caused and continue to cause, rather than stop them from causing more harm.

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* Sarda in ''Webcomic/EightBitTheater'' wants the so-called "Light Warriors" to suffer for all the harm they caused and continue to cause, rather than stop them from causing more harm. He eventually [[spoiler:willfully participated in their rise in power and destructivity,]] just so he could confiscate all this power from them at the end.
2nd Aug '16 8:57:16 AM Medinoc
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*** After Cell kills Trunks during the Cell Games, Vegeta, having had a JerkassRealization over his treatment of the latter, snaps and attacks Cell at full force; said attack [[NoSell doesn't even phase Cell]], and Gohan suffers a GameBreakingInjury as a result TakingTheBullet for Vegeta. Since Gohan could still have beaten Cell before then, and since Trunks could still be revived by the Dragon Balls, it falls under this, with the other Z Fighters flat-out calling Vegeta an idiot.

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*** After Cell kills Trunks during the Cell Games, Vegeta, having had a JerkassRealization over his treatment of the latter, snaps and attacks Cell at full force; said attack [[NoSell doesn't even phase faze Cell]], and Gohan suffers a GameBreakingInjury as a result TakingTheBullet for Vegeta. Since Gohan could still have beaten Cell before then, and since Trunks could still be revived by the Dragon Balls, it falls under this, with the other Z Fighters flat-out calling Vegeta an idiot.
2nd Aug '16 7:50:33 AM whereismytea
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* In ''Anime/{{Endride}}'', Emilio is so guilty of this that literally every person around him spends the first cour trying to persuade him he shouldn't kill his ParentalSubstitute Delzaine to avenge his real father but talk to him instead, especially since he's given zero thought to what happens to the kingdom after he kills the king. He hesitates at the last minute, only for someone else to kill Delzaine first. Emilio is, of course, seized with regret as Delzaine was his father figure and now he'll never get to talk it out.
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