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17th Dec '17 11:00:24 AM thatmadork
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* Sid Phillips, the villain of ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory'', is the epitome of KidsAreCruel, a troubling child who tortures and breaks his (unbeknown to him sentient) toys for fun. By ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory3'', [[spoiler:he appears briefly as a grown young adult, a harmless garbage man long past his days of troubling the toys.]]
7th Dec '17 1:44:36 PM nendroid
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* Viletta Nu becomes this at the end of ''Anime/CodeGeass'' season 2. After spending her life manipulating and blackmailing her way to attain nobility, and screwing over Lelouch at every opportunity she has, [[spoiler:and that's before taking into account that she was part of the [[FantasticRacism Purist Faction]], by the end of the series, she's happily married to Kanahme Ohgi, in spite of no actual redemption or atonement.]]
21st Nov '17 10:40:50 AM USABobcat
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* In ''Manga/BlackLagoon'', Dutch discovers that their employer on the submarine job is actually [[spoiler:a retired SS officer who set them up on a collision course with the Neo Nazis in order to test the Neo-Nazis. Since they all died, he considers them to have failed the test]].

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* In ''Manga/BlackLagoon'', Dutch [[ScaryBlackMan Dutch]] discovers that their employer on the submarine job is actually [[spoiler:a retired SS officer who set them up on a collision course with the Neo Nazis in order to test the Neo-Nazis. Since they all died, he considers them to have failed the test]].test. Their conversation is alternates between surprisingly polite and monstrous, with the SS Officer praising Dutch and the Black Lagoon company for their talent at killing, and then saying that Dutch and his entire race are inferior beings]].
21st Oct '17 6:38:17 AM ZimFan89
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** Asmodeus ultimately comes out of retirement in Season 13, to fill the EvilPowerVacuum in Hell caused by [[spoiler: Crowley's death and Lucifer being imprisoned in an AlternateUniverse]]. He's very much a fire and brimstone traditionalist, and a Lucifer loyalist.
11th Sep '17 3:28:43 PM Doug86
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* One of ''ComicBook/TheFantasticFour'''s oldest enemies (the first, in fact) was the Mole Man. After years of trying to gain revenge against civilization for neglecting him by leading the giant beasts of Monster Island against cities, he decided he was tired of it, and retired from villainy. (For the most part. While he's had enough of being in the limelight, things tend to happen that drag him back into it from time to time....)

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* One of ''ComicBook/TheFantasticFour'''s the ComicBook/FantasticFour's oldest enemies (the first, in fact) was the Mole Man. After years of trying to gain revenge against civilization for neglecting him by leading the giant beasts of Monster Island against cities, he decided he was tired of it, and retired from villainy. (For the most part. While he's had enough of being in the limelight, things tend to happen that drag him back into it from time to time....)
8th Sep '17 12:39:59 PM SeptimusHeap
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8th Aug '17 2:53:01 PM ChaoticNovelist
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There's a common stock character, the grizzled old guy with a wealth of experience who'll share his views with a travelling band or bold young rookie. There's no more adventuring for this old timer. He's seen it all, done some good, maybe done some bad; but overall he has earned the right to put his troubles behind him in his twilight years. He may be the CoolOldGuy or OldMaster. Perhaps if life really got him down, he'll be a GrumpyOldMan, and if someone manages to rub him up the old way you'll see he's a BadassGrandpa, but it's unlikely since some haunting experience makes him disinclined to take up arms again.

'''[[WellThisIsNotThatTrope This is not that guy.]]'''

The Retired Monster may look like that archetype but his past is full of evil and atrocity and he's okay with it. In fact, he caused most of it. When you first see him, he'll come across as AffablyEvil ''at best''; he'll also have experience and advice that he might give out to a young hero, although possibly the best he can do is "You should stay away from people like me". However, he'll be creepier than the other guy, and he'll tempt the young ones, giving them advice more on the cynical side of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism. You see, he's not doing any gross evil acts now -- he may not have done so much as run a red light in the past ten years -- but that's only because he's tired. As the backstory of this character becomes known, we learn that they [[KickTheDog kicked the dog]] a number of times, perhaps took a hopscotch over the MoralEventHorizon, only stopping because for some reason they got sick of it.

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There's a common stock character, the grizzled old guy with a wealth of experience who'll share his views with a travelling band or bold young rookie. There's no more adventuring for this old timer. He's seen it all, done some good, maybe done some bad; but overall he has earned the right to put his troubles behind him in his twilight years. He may be the CoolOldGuy or OldMaster. Perhaps if life really got him down, he'll be a GrumpyOldMan, and if someone manages to rub him up the old way you'll see he's a BadassGrandpa, but it's unlikely since some haunting experience makes him disinclined to take up arms again.

'''[[WellThisIsNotThatTrope This is not that guy.]]'''


The Retired Monster may look like that archetype but his Monster's past is full of evil and atrocity and he's okay with it. In fact, he caused most of it. When you first see him, he'll come across as AffablyEvil ''at best''; he'll also have experience and advice that he might give out to a young hero, although possibly the best he can do is "You should stay away from people like me". However, he'll be creepier than the other guy, and he'll tempt the young ones, giving them advice more on the cynical side of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism. You see, he's not doing any gross evil acts now -- he may not have done so much as run a red light in the past ten years -- but that's only because he's tired. As the backstory of this character becomes known, we learn that they [[KickTheDog kicked the dog]] a number of times, perhaps took a hopscotch over the MoralEventHorizon, only stopping because for some reason they got sick of it.



It's not rare for this kind of characters to produce [[JackTheRipoff copycat villains]], either out of genuine admiration, or because said villains are trying to throw the authorities off track by blaming the Retired Monster for their crimes. Usually the Retired Monster is less than amused about this, and he will go straight back into action to either [[GottaKillThemAll dispose of these guys personally]] or to help the heroes into apprehend them, as a way to "clean" his name of crimes he didn't commit.

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It's not rare for this kind of characters to produce [[JackTheRipoff copycat villains]], either out of genuine admiration, or because said villains are trying to throw the authorities off track by blaming the Retired Monster for their crimes. Usually the Retired Monster is less than amused about this, and he will go straight back into action to either [[GottaKillThemAll dispose of these guys personally]] or to help the heroes into apprehend them, as a way to "clean" his name of crimes he didn't commit.
commit. In any case, he has bucket loads of VillainCred.
8th Aug '17 7:10:06 AM JamesAustin
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* Duncan from ''Series/{{Highlander}}: The Series'' is surprised that his friend [[spoiler:and [[CynicalMentor Cynical]] / BigBrotherMentor Methos is one of these. Back in [[TimeAbyss The Bronze Age]] Methos joined with 3 other immortals to form a marauding pack that killed and burned their way through the world. (Inspiring the idea of TheFourHorsemen along the way; Methos himself was ''Death'').]] Although [[spoiler:Methos]] never says that he's sorry, he is more guilty about his actions than most, calling those years his "angry adolescence" (this was after all 5000 years ago), and [[spoiler:when Kronos, another member of the Horsemen tries to get group together again, Methos plays them and helps Duncan bring them down from the inside]].

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* Duncan from ''Series/{{Highlander}}: The Series'' is surprised that his friend [[spoiler:and [[CynicalMentor Cynical]] / BigBrotherMentor Methos is one of these. Back in [[TimeAbyss The Bronze Age]] Methos joined with 3 other immortals to form a marauding pack that killed and burned their way through the world. (Inspiring the idea of TheFourHorsemen the HorsemenOfTheApocalypse along the way; Methos himself was ''Death'').]] Although [[spoiler:Methos]] never says that he's sorry, he is more guilty about his actions than most, calling those years his "angry adolescence" (this was after all 5000 years ago), and [[spoiler:when Kronos, another member of the Horsemen tries to get group together again, Methos plays them and helps Duncan bring them down from the inside]].
20th Jul '17 1:08:41 PM Linda58
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* Season 12 of ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' reveals the existence of the Princes of Hell, the first generation of demons created after [[MonsterProgenitor Lilith]], who were meant to act as Hell's generals. Azazel, the BigBad of the first two seasons, was one of them, but the other three (Ramiel, Asmodeus, and Dagon) view him as having been a fanatic, as they themselves have long since grown disillusioned with Lucifer's war with Heaven. Since then, they've all lived in comfortable retirement.

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* Season 12 of ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' reveals the existence of the Princes of Hell, the first generation of demons created after [[MonsterProgenitor Lilith]], who were meant to act as Hell's generals. Azazel, the BigBad of the first two seasons, was one of them, but the other three (Ramiel, Asmodeus, and Dagon) view him as having been a fanatic, as they themselves have long since grown disillusioned with Lucifer's war with Heaven. Since then, they've all lived in comfortable retirement. That being said, Ramiel still takes the occasional VirginSacrifice, and he mentions that Asmodeus has "hobbies" and Dagon has "toys" (this is never elaborated on...which is probably for the best) so how retired they are is debatable.
29th Jun '17 11:10:20 PM Tehrannotaur
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The Retired Monster may look like that archetype but his past is full of evil and atrocity and he's okay with it. In fact, he caused most of it. When you first see him, he'll come across as AffablyEvil; he'll also have experience and advice that he might give out to a young hero, although possibly the best he can do is "You should stay away from people like me". However, he'll be creepier than the other guy, and he'll tempt the young ones, giving them advice more on the cynical side of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism. You see, he's not doing any gross evil acts now -- he may not have done so much as run a red light in the past ten years -- but that's only because he's tired. As the backstory of this character becomes known, we learn that they [[KickTheDog kicked the dog]] a number of times, perhaps took a hopscotch over the MoralEventHorizon, only stopping because for some reason they got sick of it.

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The Retired Monster may look like that archetype but his past is full of evil and atrocity and he's okay with it. In fact, he caused most of it. When you first see him, he'll come across as AffablyEvil; AffablyEvil ''at best''; he'll also have experience and advice that he might give out to a young hero, although possibly the best he can do is "You should stay away from people like me". However, he'll be creepier than the other guy, and he'll tempt the young ones, giving them advice more on the cynical side of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism. You see, he's not doing any gross evil acts now -- he may not have done so much as run a red light in the past ten years -- but that's only because he's tired. As the backstory of this character becomes known, we learn that they [[KickTheDog kicked the dog]] a number of times, perhaps took a hopscotch over the MoralEventHorizon, only stopping because for some reason they got sick of it.
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