History Main / Retcon

25th Nov '16 1:09:46 PM marbehraglaim
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* The ''Franchise/IndianaJones'' series has subtle examples arising from the fact that the second film takes place earlier than the first:
** In the now-iconic "shooting the swordsman" scene from ''Raiders'', the common assumption is that Indy acts on the spur of the moment, without ever having anticipated what he would do. But in ''Temple of Doom'', there's a scene that seems like a direct shout-out to the ''Raiders'' scene, in which a pair of swordsmen approach Indy, wave their swords around in a very similar manner to the fighter from ''Raiders'', and then Indy reaches for his holster only to realize it's empty. Since the movie is set a year before ''Raiders'', the implication is that this sort of situation is familiar to him and may have even happened before.
** Early in ''Raiders'' while talking to Marcus, Indy pooh-poohs belief in the supernatural. At the end of the film, of course, Indy sees directly the power of the ark. If ''Raiders'' were merely a standalone film we'd have every reason to believe Indy began the story as a skeptic and became a believer by the end. But in ''Temple of Doom'' he had another encounter with the supernatural and clearly accepted it, suggesting Indy was lying in his conversation with Marcus from ''Raiders''. One possible explanation is that he thought no one would believe him and didn't want to be viewed as a flake, but that probably wasn't the point of the scene when ''Raiders'' was originally written.
24th Oct '16 8:10:28 PM Selina57
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

*** She said this before Leia learned that Darth Vader was Luke's father and she was Luke's twin sister, so she could have been talking about her adoptive mother. Indeed, in the novelization we're told that she was thinking about her adoptive mother.
27th Sep '16 2:10:32 AM Morgenthaler
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ''LG15TheResistance'' applied a couple of these to ''WebVideo/{{lonelygirl15}}'', such as the revelation that Sarah [[spoiler:was evil all along]] or that Jonas [[spoiler:is a trait positive male]].

to:

* ''LG15TheResistance'' ''WebVideo/LG15TheResistance'' applied a couple of these to ''WebVideo/{{lonelygirl15}}'', such as the revelation that Sarah [[spoiler:was evil all along]] or that Jonas [[spoiler:is a trait positive male]].
20th Sep '16 10:03:27 PM thecarolinabull01
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** R2-D2 ''flying''. Apparently, they decided that was too cool an ability and removed it sometime between III and IV.

to:

** R2-D2 ''flying''. Apparently, they decided that was too cool an ability and removed it sometime between III and IV. Though it's easy to assume that R2 possessed the ability to fly in the Original Trilogy, but never did because he didn't have to.


Added DiffLines:

** A minor one, but still worth pointing out since some side material still stick with the original story. In the novelization of ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', the reason for Vader's reliance on his trademark life support armor was that he fell into a pit of lava following a duel with Obi-Wan Kenobi. In ''RevengeOfTheSith'', Vader and Obi-Wan duel on the volcanic planet Mustafar with Obi-Wain defeating Vader on a bank next to a lava river. Vader never touches the lava, but he's close enough that the hot fumes set him on fire and he burns to a crisp. Probably justified, since it's a bit more likely that he'd survive this way.
11th Sep '16 3:15:58 AM Anicomicgeek
Is there an issue? Send a Message


This also put an end to the idea of the original Thirteen being "multiversal singularities" as the Aligned!Thirteen includes very different members including Alpha Trion and [[spoiler: Optimus Prime]], and "Ask Vector Prime" outright had Vector Prime (who, according to "multiversal singularity" rule, meant that every bot with the name "Vector Prime" would, for all intents and purposes, be the same bot from ''Anime/TransformersCybertron'') stating that his Aligned counterpart is a distinctly separate entity.

to:

This also put an end to the idea of the original Thirteen being "multiversal singularities" as the Aligned!Thirteen includes very different members including Alpha Trion and [[spoiler: Optimus Prime]], and "Ask Vector Prime" outright had Vector Prime (who, according to "multiversal singularity" rule, meant that every bot with the name "Vector Prime" would, for all intents and purposes, be the same bot from ''Anime/TransformersCybertron'') stating that his Aligned counterpart is a distinctly separate entity. Hasbro ultimately pulled a CosmicRetcon and put the multiversal singularities concept down for all the Thirteen, as well as Unicron and Primus themselves, making the one in each universe their own entities.
27th Jul '16 5:10:34 PM Pinokio
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* The original Franchise/GIJoe figure was unnamed until both the ''WesternAnimation/GIJoeARealAmericanHero'' mail-in toy and the [[ComicBook/GIJoeARealAmericanHeroMarvel comic]] established General Joe Colton as the original G.I. Joe.
26th Jul '16 5:48:57 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Webcomic/{{Girly}} does this rather [[CerebusSyndrome jarringly]] during the final arc. Turns out that [[spoiler: Otra]] [[TomatoInTheMirror is actually]] the [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abomination-y]] [[HiveQueen Sidekick Queen]], and that her entire life was just a lie fabricated to awaken her latent power. Entire strips were replaced to support this. [[spoiler: Winter]] [[PlayerPunch and the readers]] were ''devastated''. [[spoiler: [[AvertedTrope PSYCH!]] Turns out that the DangerouslyGenreSavvy [[ManipulativeBastard Business Sidekick]] was lying and Otra was simply [[DemonicPossession possessed]]! And the changed strips? [[FridgeBrilliance They just made it impossible to disprove the Business Sidekick]]. [[LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt Like Josh would actually do THAT to his characters...]] ]]

to:

* Webcomic/{{Girly}} does this rather [[CerebusSyndrome jarringly]] during the final arc. Turns out that [[spoiler: Otra]] [[TomatoInTheMirror is actually]] the [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abomination-y]] [[HiveQueen Sidekick Queen]], and that her entire life was just a lie fabricated to awaken her latent power. Entire strips were replaced to support this. [[spoiler: Winter]] [[PlayerPunch and the readers]] were ''devastated''. [[spoiler: [[AvertedTrope PSYCH!]] Turns out that the DangerouslyGenreSavvy [[ManipulativeBastard Business Sidekick]] was lying and Otra was simply [[DemonicPossession possessed]]! And the changed strips? [[FridgeBrilliance They just made it impossible to disprove the Business Sidekick]]. [[LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt Like Josh would actually do THAT to his characters...]] ]]
4th Jul '16 4:36:50 PM fearlessnikki
Is there an issue? Send a Message


%% * ''Film/XMen'':
%% ** ''Film/XMenOriginsWolverine'' introduced a few to what was established in the first three ''Film/XMen'' films.
%% ** ''Film/XMenFirstClass''.
* With Creator/PeterDinklage being cast as Bolivar Trask in ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'', the character played by Bill Duke in ''Film/XMenTheLastStand'' is retconned into being 'Secretary Trask'.

to:

%% * ''Film/XMen'':
%% ** ''Film/XMenOriginsWolverine'' introduced a few to what was established ''Film/XMenFirstClass'' set in 1962 shows a brief clip of {{ComicBook/Storm}} as a little girl with her hair already white. ''Film/XMenApocalypse'' is set twenty-one years later and shows her with black hair that only [[DiseaseBleaching turns white]] when Apocalypse empowers her. Unless of course she had been dyeing it black and Apocalypse just made her natural hair come through.
** Also at
the first three ''Film/XMen'' films.
%%
end of ''First Class'', Charles wipes Moira's memories - and her dialogue implies that she remembers everything up until Shaw attacked the CIA. ''Apocalypse'' retcons this into never remembering Charles at all.
** ''Film/XMenFirstClass''.
*
With Creator/PeterDinklage being cast as Bolivar Trask in ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'', the character played by Bill Duke in ''Film/XMenTheLastStand'' is retconned into being 'Secretary Trask'.Trask'.
* ''Film/SnowWhiteAndTheHuntsman'' has Finn describe Sara's death to Eric, strongly implying that he killed her personally. ''Film/TheHuntsmanWintersWar'' not only retcons the manner of Sara's death, but it instead reveals that Eric only believed her to be dead. Finn is also completely absent in the prologue of the second movie, which retcons Ravenna into having a younger sister Freya who wasn't mentioned in the first film.
29th Jun '16 7:09:28 AM Pichu-kun
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Simba's and Nala's cub at the end of the first scene ihas male markings, but is technically [[AmbiguousGender never called a male]]. The sequel redesigns the cub to look female and made her into Kiara. [[WhatCouldHaveBeen Originally]] there were going to be twins, which would explain the unknown female cub while keeping the original male cub, but Kiara's twin brother was scrapped to fit continuity and because writing multiple cubs wasn't working well.

to:

** Simba's and Nala's cub at the end of the first scene ihas has male markings, but is technically [[AmbiguousGender never called a male]]. The sequel redesigns the cub to look female and made her into Kiara. [[WhatCouldHaveBeen Originally]] there were going to be twins, which would explain the unknown female cub while keeping the original male cub, but Kiara's twin brother was scrapped to fit continuity and because writing multiple cubs wasn't working well.
17th Jun '16 7:22:12 PM nombretomado
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* An actual plot point in ''WebVideo/ToBoldlyFlee'' in which all continuity errors in the ChannelAwesome universe [[spoiler: was an effect of the PlotHole, a physical embodiment of, well, that trope.]] Specifically called out was WebVideo/TheSpoonyOne and [[MadScientist Doctor Insano]] being the same person in WebVideo/{{Kickassia}}, when in all other respects they are separate people.

to:

* An actual plot point in ''WebVideo/ToBoldlyFlee'' in which all continuity errors in the ChannelAwesome Website/ChannelAwesome universe [[spoiler: was an effect of the PlotHole, a physical embodiment of, well, that trope.]] Specifically called out was WebVideo/TheSpoonyOne and [[MadScientist Doctor Insano]] being the same person in WebVideo/{{Kickassia}}, when in all other respects they are separate people.
This list shows the last 10 events of 511. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.Retcon