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16th Jan '16 6:19:36 PM nombretomado
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In Creator/MarvelComics, the person who pointed out the problem and at the same time provided a plausible explanation was awarded a [[http://web.archive.org/web/20091022001346/http://geocities.com/mh_prime/8607.html Genuine Marvel Comics No-Prize]] by editor StanLee, a tradition that was kept alive by other editors after he became publisher.
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In Creator/MarvelComics, the person who pointed out the problem and at the same time provided a plausible explanation was awarded a [[http://web.archive.org/web/20091022001346/http://geocities.com/mh_prime/8607.html Genuine Marvel Comics No-Prize]] by editor StanLee, Creator/StanLee, a tradition that was kept alive by other editors after he became publisher.
30th Dec '15 11:27:40 AM StFan
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30th Dec '15 6:51:37 AM raziel123
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** Leia mentions in her message to Obi-Wan that he served ''(her) father during the clone wars''. Except her father was a Senator by that point, and while Obi-Wan was leading the Republic's armies as a Jedi General, he never was in the service of Bail Organa. He ''did'' serve Leia's biological mother as a bodyguard however. Also, [[AuthorsSavingThrow a number of books, as well as some episodes of the animated series, have supplied scenarios]] where Obi-Wan did go into battle under Bail's command, or the two otherwise worked very closely together on one mission or another. (Prime example, ''Wild Space''). Considering both [[WesternAnimation/StarWarsCloneWars animated]] [[WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars series]] are now considered canon, this deals with it.
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** Leia mentions in her message to Obi-Wan that he served ''(her) father during the clone wars''. Except her father was a Senator by that point, and while Obi-Wan was leading the Republic's armies as a Jedi General, he never was in the service of Bail Organa. He ''did'' serve Leia's biological mother as a bodyguard however. Also, [[AuthorsSavingThrow a number of books, as well as some episodes of the animated series, have supplied scenarios]] where Obi-Wan did go into battle under Bail's command, or the two otherwise worked very closely together on one mission or another. (Prime example, ''Wild Space''). Considering both [[WesternAnimation/StarWarsCloneWars animated]] [[WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars series]] are now considered canon, this deals with it.But it's not canon now.
27th Dec '15 8:31:29 PM Nouct
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27th Dec '15 4:08:20 PM eroock
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27th Dec '15 4:07:00 PM eroock
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27th Dec '15 12:26:47 PM Willbyr
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27th Dec '15 5:34:35 AM Willbyr
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* At the end of the Mirrodin novels of the ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' world, [[spoiler: Glissa activates the Soul Traps and sends all of the inhabitants of the plane back to their original homes, leaving only her, Slobad and Geth's head on Mirrodin to act as wardens for the Mirari.]] When the plane was revisited years later in the Scars of Mirrodin block, this was retconned so that [[spoiler: only those who weren't born on Mirrodin were returned to their original planes, and that the "native" Mirrans had been left behind.]] ** Wizards also confirmed that the Guilds of Ravnica had pretty much dissolved, shortly before Return to Ravnica was announced and it turned out that they were still going strong.
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* ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'': ** At the end of the Mirrodin novels of the ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' world, novels, [[spoiler: Glissa activates the Soul Traps and sends all of the inhabitants of the plane back to their original homes, leaving only her, Slobad and Geth's head on Mirrodin to act as wardens for the Mirari.]] When the plane was revisited years later in the Scars ''Scars of Mirrodin Mirrodin'' block, this was retconned so that [[spoiler: only those who weren't born on Mirrodin were returned to their original planes, and that the "native" Mirrans had been left behind.]] ** Wizards also confirmed that the Guilds of Ravnica had pretty much dissolved, shortly before Return ''Return to Ravnica Ravnica'' was announced and it turned out that they were still going strong.

* In both ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'' and ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', whenever fluff from one Army Book/Codex contradicts that of another book, it's stated to be the work of propaganda. This is because until later on an army can probably expect to see an update to their book every 2-3 years, and several had not seen an update for up to a decade (Dark Eldar was most infamous for this prior to their update), so there are expected to be massive gaps in the lore that don't match up. This also allows the author of each book to play up the badassery of the unit's Bestiary entry without much complain about GameplayAndStorySegregation, as the Bestiary entry is ''supposed'' to play up their badassery even if it's not true.
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* In both ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'' and ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', whenever fluff from one Army Book/Codex army's codex contradicts that of another book, another, it's stated to be the work of propaganda. This is because until later on an army can probably expect to see an update to their book every 2-3 years, and several had not seen an update for up to a decade (Dark Eldar was most infamous for this prior to their update), so there are expected to be massive gaps in the lore that don't match up. This also allows the author of each book to play up the badassery of the unit's Bestiary entry without much complain about GameplayAndStorySegregation, as the Bestiary entry is ''supposed'' to play up their badassery even if it's not true.

--->'''Holden Shearer''': They're very rare, they live in the cracks of the setting and perform their feats in dark times people strive to forget. But they're not new, as the [=GSPs=] are new; thus, 'they were always there.'
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--->'''Holden -->'''Holden Shearer''': They're very rare, they live in the cracks of the setting and perform their feats in dark times people strive to forget. But they're not new, as the [=GSPs=] are new; thus, 'they were always there.'

--->'''Holden Shearer''': They're very rare, they live in the cracks of the setting and perform their feats in dark times people strive to forget. But they're not new, as the [=GSPs=] are new; thus, 'they were always there.'

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21st Dec '15 8:08:10 AM louisXVI
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* InternalRetcon vs. ExternalRetcon: Whether the retconning occurs inside or outside the franchise proper.

Related concepts for explaining away retcons can include the Hand Wave or {{Lampshad|eHanging}}ing.
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Related concepts for explaining away retcons can include the Hand Wave or {{Lampshad|eHanging}}ing. See also an InternalRetcon, for retcons within a fictional universe, or ExternalRetcon, for retcons in real life.
21st Dec '15 8:06:31 AM louisXVI
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* InternalRetcon vs. ExternalRetcon: Whether the retconning occurs inside or outside the franchise proper.
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