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7th Dec '17 9:00:30 AM Sunflorazumarill
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* WebAnimation/{{Benthelooney}} is a prominent abuser of this since his rants were UnCanceled. From the original dubs to the first half of the "Revival Era", he was fairly consistent for the most part with his opinions and stuck with them. But in the middle of 2012 to this day, he started retconning his original opinions on subjects that were mostly well-established later on(Pixar, and even Adventure Time and Regular Show).

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* WebAnimation/{{Benthelooney}} is a prominent abuser of this since his rants were UnCanceled. From the original dubs to the first half of the "Revival Era", he was fairly consistent for the most part with his opinions and stuck with them. But in the middle of 2012 to this day, he started retconning his original opinions on subjects that were mostly well-established later on(Pixar, on (Pixar, and even Adventure Time and Regular Show).Show).
* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': Towards the end of Volume 1, it's said that the reason for Weiss's difficult childhood was because of the White Fang attacking the Schnee Dust Company, which caused her father to become a {{Jerkass}}. However, Volume 4 implies that her father was always a jerkass in addition to being a CorruptCorporateExecutive that usurped the company by marrying into the family, with no mention of the White Fang being responsible for his demeanor.
6th Dec '17 8:16:55 PM TheMountainKing
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** At the end of ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'', Franchise/WonderWoman states that she abandoned the world of men one hundred years ago, with the clear implication that she gave up on humanity after her experiences in the First World War. However, when we actually see those events in [[Film/WonderWoman her own film]] she comes close to the DespairEventHorizon after [[spoiler: Steve Trevor's death]], but doesn't cross it, rejects [[spoiler: Ares']] HumansAreBastards worldview, and is not shown abandoning humanity at the end. ''Film/JusticeLeague'' reinforces this further as, while it doesn't get specific, it does state that Wonder Woman came to humanity's defense many times in between 1918 and the events of Dawn of Justice.

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** At the end of ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'', Franchise/WonderWoman states that she abandoned the world of men one hundred years ago, with the clear implication that she gave up on humanity after her experiences in the First World War. However, when we actually see those events in [[Film/WonderWoman her own film]] she comes close to the DespairEventHorizon after [[spoiler: Steve Trevor's death]], but doesn't cross it, rejects [[spoiler: Ares']] HumansAreBastards worldview, and is not shown abandoning humanity at the end. ''Film/JusticeLeague'' reinforces this further as, while it doesn't get specific, it does state that Wonder Woman came to humanity's defense many times in between 1918 and the events of Dawn ''Dawn of Justice.Justice''.
6th Dec '17 7:54:27 AM TheMountainKing
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** Flint Marko's entire role in ''Film/Spiderman3''. In fact, when Captain Stacey addresses Peter Parker and Aunt Mae in the police station, he could virtually be the chief spokesperson of retcons in their purest form: "Initially, we thought this man, Dennis Carradine (the thief from the first film) was your husband's killer... we were wrong. As it turns out, Mr. Carradine was only an accomplice - the ''actual'' killer is still at large." Stacey slides Marko's mug shot across the table to Aunt Mae. "''This'' is the man who killed your husband." To take the retcon even further, Peter's mind reels in sorrow via flashback where Marko shoots Uncle Ben in cold blood, complete with a hateful glare... however, the end makes it clear this is only what Peter ''thinks'' happened, as Marko delivers a heavy confession in a ''OnceMoreWithClarity'' flashback that the money Carradine robbed was never meant for him in the first place, but rather emergency money to help Penny, Flint's dying daughter. Carradine yanks Marko's arm as he runs back, causing him to fire an accidental shot at Uncle Ben he did not deliberately intend.

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** * Flint Marko's entire role in ''Film/Spiderman3''. In fact, when Captain Stacey addresses Peter Parker and Aunt Mae in the police station, he could virtually be the chief spokesperson of retcons in their purest form: "Initially, we thought this man, Dennis Carradine (the thief from the first film) was your husband's killer... we were wrong. As it turns out, Mr. Carradine was only an accomplice - the ''actual'' killer is still at large." Stacey slides Marko's mug shot across the table to Aunt Mae. "''This'' is the man who killed your husband." To take the retcon even further, Peter's mind reels in sorrow via flashback where Marko shoots Uncle Ben in cold blood, complete with a hateful glare... however, the end makes it clear this is only what Peter ''thinks'' happened, as Marko delivers a heavy confession in a ''OnceMoreWithClarity'' flashback that the money Carradine robbed was never meant for him in the first place, but rather emergency money to help Penny, Flint's dying daughter. Carradine yanks Marko's arm as he runs back, causing him to fire an accidental shot at Uncle Ben he did not deliberately intend.intend.
* Franchise/DCExtendedUniverse
** At the end of ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'', Franchise/WonderWoman states that she abandoned the world of men one hundred years ago, with the clear implication that she gave up on humanity after her experiences in the First World War. However, when we actually see those events in [[Film/WonderWoman her own film]] she comes close to the DespairEventHorizon after [[spoiler: Steve Trevor's death]], but doesn't cross it, rejects [[spoiler: Ares']] HumansAreBastards worldview, and is not shown abandoning humanity at the end. ''Film/JusticeLeague'' reinforces this further as, while it doesn't get specific, it does state that Wonder Woman came to humanity's defense many times in between 1918 and the events of Dawn of Justice.
23rd Nov '17 7:27:43 AM Saber15
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* In ''TabletopGame/BattleTech'', a key point of the setting was that ''all'' capacity to build [=BattleMechs=] was irrevocably destroyed, and that the noble houses were fighting over remaining spare part depots. This was to play up a ''Film/MadMax'' / ScavengerWorld setting. However, they soon realized that no factories = no new designs to be introduced in followup supplements. Therefore, FASA later said that there were still factories producing new 'Mechs, but that they were degraded and no longer working at full capacity, and that the bleeding-edge tech of the Star League was LostTechnology. Other retcons are less sweeping in nature, and since almost every publication [[LiteraryAgentHypothesis exists as an actual document within the universe]], retcons can be explained as being from an UnreliableNarrator or meddling from the secretive organization that runs the SubspaceAnsible network.

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* In ''TabletopGame/BattleTech'', ''TabletopGame/BattleTech'' usually avoids ''direct'' retcons, as almost every publication [[LiteraryAgentHypothesis exists as an actual document within the universe]], retcons can be explained as being from atn UnreliableNarrator or meddling from the secretive organization that runs the SubspaceAnsible network. However, there a few straight-up retcons:
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key point of the setting was that ''all'' capacity to build [=BattleMechs=] was irrevocably destroyed, destroyed in a [[ForeverWar 300 year long war]], and that the noble houses were fighting over remaining spare part depots. This was to play up a ''Film/MadMax'' / ScavengerWorld setting. However, they soon realized that [[MerchandiseDriven no factories = no new designs to be introduced in followup supplements. supplements]]. Therefore, FASA later said that there were still factories producing new 'Mechs, but that they were degraded and no longer working at full capacity, and that the bleeding-edge tech of the Star League was LostTechnology. Other retcons are less sweeping in nature, and since almost every publication [[LiteraryAgentHypothesis exists as an actual document within LostTechnology.
** When
the universe]], retcons can be explained as being game first came out in 1984, the majority of the HumongousMecha used artwork licensed from an UnreliableNarrator or meddling from Japanese anime, mostly Anime/{{Macross}}. Flash forward to 1994, and the secretive organization American distributor of Macross [[ExecutiveMeddling sues the bejesus]] out of FASA. The mechs listed in the suit (most notably, the de-facto SeriesMascot Warhammer and Marauder) could no longer be depicted in artwork, and [[UnPerson republications of older sourcebooks had to edit them out]]. However, the mechs still existed InUniverse, unchanged, and newer lawyer-friendly art with altered designs were explicitly different variants. The mechs original designs were retconned in 2015; the original designs are now non-canonical.
** In the ''Franchise/BattleTechExpandedUniverse'', the first novels depicting the high-tech Clan Invasion were written ''before'' the new sourcebooks were released (packed full of recovered/rediscovered Inner Sphere LostTechnology), leading to the protagonists seemingly flabbergasted by Clan technology
that runs the SubspaceAnsible network.Inner Sphere was already producing.
10th Nov '17 9:56:25 AM Cartoonfan3
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** Flint Marko's entire role in ''Film/Spiderman3''. In fact, when Captain Stacey addresses Peter Parker and Aunt Mae in the police station, he could virtually be the chief spokesperson of retcons in their purest form: "Initially, we thought this man, Dennis Carradine (the thief from the first film) was your husband's killer... we were wrong. As it turns out, Mr. Carradine was only an accomplice - the ''actual'' killer is still at large." Stacey slides Marko's mug shot across the table to Aunt Mae. "''This'' is the man who killed your husband." To take the retcon even further, Peter's mind reels in sorrow via flashback where Marko shoots Uncle Ben in cold blood, complete with a hateful glare... however, the end makes it clear this is only what Peter ''thinks'' happened, as Marko delivers a heavy confession in a ''OnceMoreWithClarity'' flashback that the money Carradine robbed was never met for him in the first place, but rather emergency money to help Penny, Flint's dying daughter. Carradine yanks Marko's arm as he runs back, causing him to fire an accidental shot at Uncle Ben he did not deliberately intend.

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** Flint Marko's entire role in ''Film/Spiderman3''. In fact, when Captain Stacey addresses Peter Parker and Aunt Mae in the police station, he could virtually be the chief spokesperson of retcons in their purest form: "Initially, we thought this man, Dennis Carradine (the thief from the first film) was your husband's killer... we were wrong. As it turns out, Mr. Carradine was only an accomplice - the ''actual'' killer is still at large." Stacey slides Marko's mug shot across the table to Aunt Mae. "''This'' is the man who killed your husband." To take the retcon even further, Peter's mind reels in sorrow via flashback where Marko shoots Uncle Ben in cold blood, complete with a hateful glare... however, the end makes it clear this is only what Peter ''thinks'' happened, as Marko delivers a heavy confession in a ''OnceMoreWithClarity'' flashback that the money Carradine robbed was never met meant for him in the first place, but rather emergency money to help Penny, Flint's dying daughter. Carradine yanks Marko's arm as he runs back, causing him to fire an accidental shot at Uncle Ben he did not deliberately intend.
27th Oct '17 8:41:08 PM thecarolinabull01
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** A minor one, but still worth pointing out since some side material still stick with the original story. In the novelization of ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', the reason for Vader's reliance on his trademark life support armor was that he fell into a pit of lava following a duel with Obi-Wan Kenobi. In ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', Vader and Obi-Wan duel on the volcanic planet Mustafar with Obi-Wain defeating Vader on a bank next to a lava river. Vader never touches the lava, but he's close enough that the hot fumes set him on fire and he burns to a crisp. Probably justified, since it's a bit more likely that he'd survive this way.

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** A minor one, but still worth pointing out since some side material still stick with the original story. In the novelization of ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', the reason for Vader's reliance on his trademark life support armor was that he fell into a pit of lava following a duel with Obi-Wan Kenobi. In ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'', Vader and Obi-Wan duel on the volcanic planet Mustafar with Obi-Wain Obi-Wan defeating Vader on a bank next to a lava river. Vader never actually touches the lava, but he's close enough that the hot fumes set him his clothes on fire and he burns to a crisp. Probably justified, since it's a bit more likely that he'd survive this way.
14th Oct '17 11:09:56 PM lillolillo
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[[folder:FanWorks]]
* A common occurrence in fan fiction if the author discovers they have written themselves into a corner or wish to change something they had previously written. There are generally three approaches to this: Rewriting all chapters involving the retconned material and requesting readers reread the story; [[WriterOnBoard having a character in universe explain away the inconsistencies]]; or placing an author note stating how the events have been modified.
* The entire genre of the FixFic is intended to create retcons of canon so as to "improve" what the author thinks are issues in the original story. Whether these are actual improvements depends on many factors.

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[[folder:FanWorks]]
* A common occurrence in fan fiction if the author discovers they have written themselves into a corner or wish to change something they had previously written. There are generally three approaches to this: Rewriting all chapters involving the retconned material and requesting readers reread the story; [[WriterOnBoard having a character in universe explain away the inconsistencies]]; or placing an author note stating how the events have been modified.
* The entire genre of the FixFic is intended to create retcons of canon so as to "improve" what the author thinks are issues in the original story. Whether these are actual improvements depends on many factors.
[[folder:Fan Works]]



* In ''FanFic/MegaManDefenderOfTheHumanRace'', the Special Edition Episode 1 makes it clear that the company Wily failed to get a job at was Vick-Tek; in the original it was an unnamed company and mentioned in passing.

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* In ''FanFic/MegaManDefenderOfTheHumanRace'', the ''FanFic/MegaManDefenderOfTheHumanRace'':
** The
Special Edition Episode 1 makes it clear that the company Wily failed to get a job at was Vick-Tek; in the original it was an unnamed company and mentioned in passing.


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* Several of them in ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'' fanfic ''Fanfic/SupermanOf2499TheGreatConfrontation'':
** [[ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} Lorile]]'s job changes twice.
** The Superman's descendantsí weakness to saltwater, originally stemming from pollution, was retconned to be caused by a hex put on them by Hecate.
7th Oct '17 9:23:03 PM DustSnitch
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** {{Retconjuration}}: An in-story ability to alter reality, which causes a retcon.
7th Oct '17 3:11:53 AM lillolillo
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* In a rare in-universe example, the LemonyNarrator of the essay-fic, [[FanFic/EquestriaAHistoryRevealed Equestria: A History Revealed]], crosses out sentences from sources she cites as soon as they disagree with something else she's been saying. It only points out her alterations of history even more.

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* In a rare in-universe example, the LemonyNarrator of the essay-fic, [[FanFic/EquestriaAHistoryRevealed Equestria: A History Revealed]], ''FanFic/EquestriaAHistoryRevealed'', crosses out sentences from sources she cites as soon as they disagree with something else she's been saying. It only points out her alterations of history even more.



* The ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' FanFic "FanFic/{{Pattycakes}}" was first written so that a badly derailed Fluttershy [[MindRape broke Rainbow Dash's will]] and caused her to regress to a childlike mental state. Given that a) the psychological torture involved consisted of bondage mitts, oatmeal, a bottle and a nappy and b) the whole thing took less than a day, a second part still referred to Dash as "mentally broken" but hung part of the plot on Dash's condition being the result of a mental regression drug Fluttershy had invented.

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* The ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' FanFic "FanFic/{{Pattycakes}}" "Pattycakes" was first written so that a badly derailed Fluttershy [[MindRape broke Rainbow Dash's will]] and caused her to regress to a childlike mental state. Given that a) the psychological torture involved consisted of bondage mitts, oatmeal, a bottle and a nappy and b) the whole thing took less than a day, a second part still referred to Dash as "mentally broken" but hung part of the plot on Dash's condition being the result of a mental regression drug Fluttershy had invented.
30th Sep '17 10:14:37 PM Cartoonfan3
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** Flint Marko's entire role in ''Film/Spiderman3''. In fact, when Captain Stacey addresses Peter Parker and Aunt Mae in the police station, he could virtually be the chief spokesperson of retcons in their purest form: "Intitally, we thought this man, Dennis Carradine (the thief from the first film) was your husband's killer... we were wrong. As it turns out, Mr. Carradine was only an accomplice - the ''actual'' killer is still at large." Stacey slides Marko's mug shot across the table to Aunt Mae. "''This'' is the man who killed your husband." To take the retcon even further, Peter's mind reels in sorrow via flashback where Marko shoots Uncle Ben in cold blood, complete with a hateful glare... however, the end makes it clear this is only what Peter ''thinks'' happened, as Marko delivers a heavy confession in a ''OnceMoreWithClarity'' flashback that the money Carradine robbed was never met for him in the first place, but rather emergency money to help Penny, Flint's dying daughter. Carradine yanks Marko's arm as he runs back, causing him to fire an accidental shot at Uncle Ben he did not deliberately intend.

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** Flint Marko's entire role in ''Film/Spiderman3''. In fact, when Captain Stacey addresses Peter Parker and Aunt Mae in the police station, he could virtually be the chief spokesperson of retcons in their purest form: "Intitally, "Initially, we thought this man, Dennis Carradine (the thief from the first film) was your husband's killer... we were wrong. As it turns out, Mr. Carradine was only an accomplice - the ''actual'' killer is still at large." Stacey slides Marko's mug shot across the table to Aunt Mae. "''This'' is the man who killed your husband." To take the retcon even further, Peter's mind reels in sorrow via flashback where Marko shoots Uncle Ben in cold blood, complete with a hateful glare... however, the end makes it clear this is only what Peter ''thinks'' happened, as Marko delivers a heavy confession in a ''OnceMoreWithClarity'' flashback that the money Carradine robbed was never met for him in the first place, but rather emergency money to help Penny, Flint's dying daughter. Carradine yanks Marko's arm as he runs back, causing him to fire an accidental shot at Uncle Ben he did not deliberately intend.
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