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25th Feb '17 6:11:35 AM Spanks
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** In ''The Mane Attraction'', we are introduced to Countess Coloratura. According to the characters, she is the "biggest pop star in Equestria", and act with stunned reaction at Applejack when [[PopCulturalOsmosisFailure she asks who she is]]. Considering Countess Coloratura has never been mentioned before in the show despite her supposed "fame", [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall Audiences ended up relating more with Applejack]].
22nd Feb '17 3:46:54 AM Killerikala
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* ''Film/TheTransformersTheMovie'' notoriously killed the beloved cast of the cartoon (traumatizing many children in the progress) largely to sell new toys.

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* ''Film/TheTransformersTheMovie'' notoriously killed the beloved cast of the cartoon (traumatizing many children in the progress) largely to sell new toys.toys of never-before seen new characters.
21st Feb '17 10:13:34 AM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Dolorous Edd is suddenly part of Lord Commander Mormont's group, although the scene from the book where he meets up with them is cut.
10th Feb '17 2:41:44 PM poi99
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* The "Total Rickall" episode of ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'' is an elaborate DeconstructiveParody of the trope, featuring tons of never-before-seen characters whom our protagonists insist have always been on the show, but only because they've been conditioned to think so via telepathy; the new characters are actually a species of shapeshifting parasites who can implant FakeMemories in their hosts, convincing the hosts that the parasites are long-time friends who have always been around. Rick and the gang eventually figure out how to tell a parasite masquerading as a friend from an ''actual'' friend: [[spoiler:the parasites can only create happy, pleasant memories, [[AnAesop whereas real relationships generally contain a mix of both pleasant and unpleasant experiences]]]]. And then ''that'' idea is deconstructed when the gang starts killing everyone in the room that they have no negative memories of [[spoiler:and end up wounding a friend by mistake, whom the cast have no negative memories of not because he's a parasite, [[NiceGuy but because he was just that great a guy]].]].

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* The "Total Rickall" episode of ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'' is an elaborate DeconstructiveParody of the trope, featuring tons of never-before-seen characters whom our protagonists insist have always been on the show, but only because they've been conditioned to think so via telepathy; the new characters are actually a species of shapeshifting parasites who can implant FakeMemories in their hosts, convincing the hosts that the parasites are long-time friends who have always been around. Rick and the gang eventually figure out how to tell a parasite masquerading as a friend from an ''actual'' friend: [[spoiler:the parasites can only create happy, pleasant memories, [[AnAesop whereas real relationships generally contain a mix of both pleasant and unpleasant experiences]]]]. And then ''that'' idea is deconstructed when the gang starts killing everyone in the room that they have no negative memories of [[spoiler:and end up seriously wounding a ''real'' friend by mistake, whom the cast have no negative memories of not because he's a parasite, [[NiceGuy but because he was just that great a guy]].]].
30th Jan '17 5:34:27 AM Lancelot07
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** ''Disney/LadyAndTheTramp 2'' does this with the junkyard dogs. Tramp was apparently a member of their gang when he was a stray, but Tramp is shown to be a loner during the original film.

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** ''Disney/LadyAndTheTramp 2'' does this with the junkyard dogs. Tramp was apparently a member best friends with Buster and possibly part of their gang when he was a stray, gang, but Tramp is shown to be a loner during the original film.
22nd Jan '17 12:57:41 PM Killerikala
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* ''Film/TheTransformersTheMovie'' notoriously killed the beloved cast of the cartoon (traumatizing many children in the progress) largely to sell new toys.
20th Jan '17 1:52:42 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* ''VideoGame/MapleStory'' does this a lot. Examples:
** In ''Black Heaven'', you are often accompanied by three bird-like NPCs named Dolpi, Gupi, and Lepi. The dialogue suggests you've known them for a long time, although this is the first time they appear.
** In the Madhouse scenario, released in the 2015 Halloween event, your goal is to rescue an old friend named Chloe from a Bedlam House, and some other friend - Eddie, Marilyn, Chu, Lopez, and Sean - come with you. Thing is, all six NPCs don't appear in any previous scenario, despite dialogue that suggests you've known them for a long time.
10th Jan '17 4:54:21 PM Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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* ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' introduces Dr. Helen Cho, a renowned Korean scientist who serves as a medical and scientific ally to the team. She's close friends with both Bruce and Tony, but like Alexander Pierce below, she is neither seen nor mentioned in any of the previous movies.
* In ''Film/BatmanReturns'' (1992), Max Shreck has apparently been one of Gotham City's most famous residents for quite some time ("Here's a man who needs no introduction, he's given so much"), having been around long enough to have established the town's most successful department store, become more wealthy than anyone except Bruce Wayne himself, gotten a mayoral candidate elected, ''and'' gained enough influence to propose the construction of a new electrical power plant. So it's strange in retrospect that he apparently didn't exist at the time of the 1989 film, particularly since Gotham's 200th anniversary festival budget was seriously short on funds and he would probably have been the most philanthropic contributor. Shreck's Department Store is arguably an even more blatant New Guy: if we are to assume that the cathedral entrance on the opposite side of the city square, which we see behind the Penguin as he escapes on his helicopter umbrella, is to the same cathedral in which the Joker hid out at the climax of the previous film (and, at least according to {{Fanon}}, it is), the store is so big and so gaudy that it wouldn't previously have been missed. Of course, it's possible that, in-universe, ''Batman Returns'' is taking place many years after the original film; however, as all the returning cast members look to be about the same age as before (which they are, of course), that isn't likely.[[note]] This is because Max Shreck's role in the film was originally filled by Harvey Dent, returning from the 1989 film, who was supposed to be given the disfigurement that turns him into Two-Face by Catwoman at the end of the film. Of course, all this was changed.[[/note]]
* Alexander Pierce is introduced in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' as a high-ranking member of ComicBook/{{SHIELD}} and ComicBook/NickFury's close personal friend. Prior to his debut, he'd never been mentioned in ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' or any of the other [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] films. WordOfGod from the creators was that this is one of the major reasons Jasper Sitwell [[spoiler:was chosen to be a HYDRA mole. Most of the double agents in the movie were new characters that hadn't appeared in any other films, and the filmmakers felt it'd be a cop-out to introduce such a massive conspiracy and not have it involve any established characters]].
** Pierce's situation seems especially odd that in that it appears he's Fury's ''superior'' (or at least the politically-appointed head of SHIELD while Fury is the operational leader), whereas ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' implies that Fury reported directly to the Council. ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' further confuses the issue because a flashback established Pierce had been in a high-ranking position years earlier.



* ''Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines'' introduced Kate Brewster, a childhood friend of John Connor, whom he last saw prior to the events of ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'', and who becomes one of the leaders of the Resistance following Judgment Day, as well as Connor's wife. The previous two films in the series never mentioned her.



* In ''Film/BatmanReturns'' (1992), Max Shreck has apparently been one of Gotham City's most famous residents for quite some time ("Here's a man who needs no introduction, he's given so much"), having been around long enough to have established the town's most successful department store, become more wealthy than anyone except Bruce Wayne himself, gotten a mayoral candidate elected, ''and'' gained enough influence to propose the construction of a new electrical power plant. So it's strange in retrospect that he apparently didn't exist at the time of the 1989 film, particularly since Gotham's 200th anniversary festival budget was seriously short on funds and he would probably have been the most philanthropic contributor. Shreck's Department Store is arguably an even more blatant New Guy: if we are to assume that the cathedral entrance on the opposite side of the city square, which we see behind the Penguin as he escapes on his helicopter umbrella, is to the same cathedral in which the Joker hid out at the climax of the previous film (and, at least according to {{Fanon}}, it is), the store is so big and so gaudy that it wouldn't previously have been missed. Of course, it's possible that, in-universe, ''Batman Returns'' is taking place many years after the original film; however, as all the returning cast members look to be about the same age as before (which they are, of course), that isn't likely.[[note]] This is because Max Shreck's role in the film was originally filled by Harvey Dent, returning from the 1989 film, who was supposed to be given the disfigurement that turns him into Two-Face by Catwoman at the end of the film. Of course, all this was changed.[[/note]]
* Alexander Pierce is introduced in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' as a high-ranking member of ComicBook/{{SHIELD}} and ComicBook/NickFury's close personal friend. Prior to his debut, he'd never been mentioned in ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' or any of the other [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] films. WordOfGod from the creators was that this is one of the major reasons Jasper Sitwell [[spoiler:was chosen to be a HYDRA mole. Most of the double agents in the movie were new characters that hadn't appeared in any other films, and the filmmakers felt it'd be a cop-out to introduce such a massive conspiracy and not have it involve any established characters]].
** Pierce's situation seems especially odd that in that it appears he's Fury's ''superior'' (or at least the politically-appointed head of SHIELD while Fury is the operational leader), whereas ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' implies that Fury reported directly to the Council. ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' further confuses the issue because a flashback established Pierce had been in a high-ranking position years earlier.
* Likewise, ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' introduces Dr. Helen Cho, a renowned Korean scientist who serves as a medical and scientific ally to the team. She's close friends with both Bruce and Tony, but like Pierce, she is neither seen nor mentioned in any of the previous movies.[[/folder]]

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* In ''Film/BatmanReturns'' (1992), Max Shreck has apparently been one of Gotham City's most famous residents for quite some time ("Here's a man who needs no introduction, he's given so much"), having been around long enough to have established the town's most successful department store, become more wealthy than anyone except Bruce Wayne himself, gotten a mayoral candidate elected, ''and'' gained enough influence to propose the construction of a new electrical power plant. So it's strange in retrospect that he apparently didn't exist at the time of the 1989 film, particularly since Gotham's 200th anniversary festival budget was seriously short on funds and he would probably have been the most philanthropic contributor. Shreck's Department Store is arguably an even more blatant New Guy: if we are to assume that the cathedral entrance on the opposite side of the city square, which we see behind the Penguin as he escapes on his helicopter umbrella, is to the same cathedral in which the Joker hid out at the climax of the previous film (and, at least according to {{Fanon}}, it is), the store is so big and so gaudy that it wouldn't previously have been missed. Of course, it's possible that, in-universe, ''Batman Returns'' is taking place many years after the original film; however, as all the returning cast members look to be about the same age as before (which they are, of course), that isn't likely.[[note]] This is because Max Shreck's role in the film was originally filled by Harvey Dent, returning from the 1989 film, who was supposed to be given the disfigurement that turns him into Two-Face by Catwoman at the end of the film. Of course, all this was changed.[[/note]]
* Alexander Pierce is introduced in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' as a high-ranking member of ComicBook/{{SHIELD}} and ComicBook/NickFury's close personal friend. Prior to his debut, he'd never been mentioned in ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' or any of the other [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] films. WordOfGod from the creators was that this is one of the major reasons Jasper Sitwell [[spoiler:was chosen to be a HYDRA mole. Most of the double agents in the movie were new characters that hadn't appeared in any other films, and the filmmakers felt it'd be a cop-out to introduce such a massive conspiracy and not have it involve any established characters]].
** Pierce's situation seems especially odd that in that it appears he's Fury's ''superior'' (or at least the politically-appointed head of SHIELD while Fury is the operational leader), whereas ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' implies that Fury reported directly to the Council. ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' further confuses the issue because a flashback established Pierce had been in a high-ranking position years earlier.
* Likewise, ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' introduces Dr. Helen Cho, a renowned Korean scientist who serves as a medical and scientific ally to the team. She's close friends with both Bruce and Tony, but like Pierce, she is neither seen nor mentioned in any of the previous movies.
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9th Jan '17 5:28:37 PM Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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** Another example was Alex's friend Greg from the two-part VerySpecialEpisode "A, My Name Is Alex". Even though he was never shown before this episode, he was one of Alex's best friends since childhood, and Alex was so distraught over his death that he needed to see a therapist.


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* Frasier's brother Niles on ''Series/{{Frasier}}'' had never been mentioned on Frasier's previous series ''Series/{{Cheers}}''. Lampshaded when Sam Malone from ''Cheers'' visited Frasier and told Niles he was never mentioned by his brother.
9th Jan '17 3:48:54 PM Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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* Tag Team's first single "Whoomp! (There It Is)" (which was also the first track from their first album) has the line "Tag Team back again".
* Music/VanillaIce's first hit "Ice Ice Baby" has the line "Ice is back with my brand new invention". Somewhat justified in that the song was originally the B-side to "Play That Funky Music" (so he was "back" from the A-side).
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