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21st Sep '17 6:07:58 PM universalperson
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* ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsChainOfMemories'': [=DiZ=]'s [[spoiler: true identity as The Original Ansem]] comes out of somewhere outside of left field. No real explanation is given for this one; up until [=KH2=], [[spoiler:everyone refers to the Billy Zane guy as Ansem, ''including Mickey'', who has no excuse for having forgotten about blond!Ansem]]. [=DiZ=] is not a bad character, as such, but would that he'd been ''foreshadowed'' a little!

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* ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsChainOfMemories'': [=DiZ=]'s The Franchise/KingdomHearts series has two examples, in a rather convoluted fashion. A bit of background: In the original ''VidoeGame/KingdomHearts'', the BigBad is a king named Ansem who Mickey Mouse met in the backstory. In the next game, ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsChainOfMemories'', the Ansem character reappears and there is also a new character who calls himself [=DiZ=]. It's implied that [=DiZ=] is another incarnation of Ansem, as Mickey finds him familiar. The trope comes into play in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII''. [[spoiler: true identity as The Original Ansem]] comes out of somewhere outside of left field. No real explanation is given for heroes run across a painting depicting a guy they haven't seen before. When Mickey sees the painting, he claims this one; up until [=KH2=], [[spoiler:everyone refers to the Billy Zane guy as new character is Ansem, ''including Mickey'', who has no excuse for having forgotten about blond!Ansem]]. and the Ansem from previous games is actually an imposter. This is despite the fact that even Mickey called the imposter "Ansem" in previous games. It's later revealed that [=DiZ=] is not a bad character, as such, but would that he'd been ''foreshadowed'' a little!this true Ansem, while the imposter was Ansem's never-before-mentioned apprentice Xehanort. Thus both the real Ansem and the Xehanort character fit this trope despite technically being introduced in previous games.]]
20th Sep '17 11:36:54 AM BeerBaron
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* In ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' series, the Dragon Cult was a ReligionOfEvil from the Merethic Era who, along with the dragons they worshiped, was defeated and overthrown during the ancient Dragon War. They are a relatively new addition to the series' lore, only being introduced in ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]''. Possibly justified; since the Dragons primarily operated out of Skyrim and frequently battled the Ancient Nords, it makes sense that the Dragon Cult was most prominent in Skyrim and just hadn't been seen elsewhere in Tamriel.
19th Sep '17 8:28:01 AM Pichu-kun
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* Parodied(?) with SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} as there have been a number of comics and mini-series that place him in various eras of the Marvel Universe that predate his creation-- teaming up with Iron Fist and Luke Cage during their "Heroes for Hire" era, taking over for Iron Man during the "Demon in a Bottle" era, even showing up in the original ComicBook/SecretWars and bonding with the ComicBook/{{Venom}} symbiote. However, it's quite hard to tell which of these stories (if any) have actually happened and which ones are simply What If?s created in the spirit of fun (particularly when you remember that it's already been established that 1) Deadpool's mental instability has been known to mess with his memory and 2) he's aware that he's a comic book character, thus subject to MultipleChoicePast).

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* Parodied(?) Parodied (?) with SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} as there have been a number of comics and mini-series that place him in various eras of the Marvel Universe that predate his creation-- teaming up with Iron Fist and Luke Cage during their "Heroes for Hire" era, taking over for Iron Man during the "Demon in a Bottle" era, even showing up in the original ComicBook/SecretWars and bonding with the ComicBook/{{Venom}} symbiote. However, it's quite hard to tell which of these stories (if any) have actually happened and which ones are simply What If?s {{What If}}s created in the spirit of fun (particularly when you remember that it's already been established that 1) Deadpool's mental instability has been known to mess with his memory and 2) he's aware that he's a comic book character, thus subject to MultipleChoicePast).



* ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirl2016'' introduces a new Powerpuff Girl named "Bliss" during the second season. No, she's not a recently created character like Bunny was. She's a LongLostRelative that was created ten years prior to the Powerpuff Girls. According to her backstory, the Professor had a rivalry with another professor who created the perfect little boy. Utonium tried to one-up her by creating the perfect little girl but his original creation involving Chemical W wasn't perfect enough. Bliss would lose control of her powers whenever upset or scared. One day Bliss vanished during one of her episodes and was presumed dead until she reappeared ten years later. This all goes against the [[WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls original show]] and the established backstory of the girls. The girls are the first known {{Artificial Humans}} and Professor Utonium had no parenting experience prior to their creation.

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* ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirl2016'' ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls2016'' introduces a new Powerpuff Girl named "Bliss" during the second season. No, she's not a recently created character like Bunny was. She's a LongLostRelative that was created ten years prior to the Powerpuff Girls. According to her backstory, the Professor had a rivalry with another professor who created the perfect little boy. Utonium tried to one-up her by creating the perfect little girl but his original creation involving Chemical W wasn't perfect enough. Bliss would lose control of her powers whenever upset or scared. One day Bliss vanished during one of her episodes and was presumed dead until she reappeared ten years later. This all goes against the [[WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls original show]] and the established backstory of the girls. The girls are the first known {{Artificial Humans}} and Professor Utonium had no parenting experience prior to their creation.
19th Sep '17 8:21:51 AM Pichu-kun
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* "[[WesternAnimation/RudolphTheRedNosedReindeer But do you recall/The most famous reindeer of all?]]" Back when the song was written, this trope was in full effect, as Rudolph was created by the songwriter. Several Creator/{{Rankin Bass|Productions}} specials and light-up lawn decorations later, it could be argued that Rudolph ''is'', in fact, the most famous reindeer of all - or at least the most distinctive, since all the other reindeer have no real character traits.
** The line in the song itself is pretty funny--the singer takes for granted that "You know Dasher and Dancer...." So why would there be any question of the listener recalling the most famous one?

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* "[[WesternAnimation/RudolphTheRedNosedReindeer But do you recall/The most famous reindeer of all?]]" Back when the song was written, this trope was in full effect, as Rudolph was created by the songwriter. Several Creator/{{Rankin Bass|Productions}} specials and light-up lawn decorations later, it could be argued that Rudolph ''is'', in fact, the most famous reindeer of all - or at least the most distinctive, since all the other reindeer have no real character traits.
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traits. The line in the song itself is pretty funny--the singer takes for granted that "You know Dasher and Dancer...." So why would there be any question of the listener recalling the most famous one?



* Taken to an extreme in the second of the ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyTVSpecials'', where only Megan and Spike were re-used. Slightly justified, as there are ''[[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters a lot]]'' of ponies.

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* Taken to an extreme in the second of the ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyTVSpecials'', where only Megan and Spike were re-used. Slightly justified, as there are ''[[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters a lot]]'' of ponies. ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyAndFriends'' also didn't include any ponies from the previous specials.


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* ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirl2016'' introduces a new Powerpuff Girl named "Bliss" during the second season. No, she's not a recently created character like Bunny was. She's a LongLostRelative that was created ten years prior to the Powerpuff Girls. According to her backstory, the Professor had a rivalry with another professor who created the perfect little boy. Utonium tried to one-up her by creating the perfect little girl but his original creation involving Chemical W wasn't perfect enough. Bliss would lose control of her powers whenever upset or scared. One day Bliss vanished during one of her episodes and was presumed dead until she reappeared ten years later. This all goes against the [[WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls original show]] and the established backstory of the girls. The girls are the first known {{Artificial Humans}} and Professor Utonium had no parenting experience prior to their creation.
16th Sep '17 11:32:46 PM Clockwork_Lemon
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* A particularly frustrating example occurs in ''Manga/BlackClover'', where in one arc Asta and Noelle meet up with a group of three mages, Fanzell, Dominante, and Mariella, in the Witches Forest Arc. Though they have never appeared in the manga before, Asta and Noelle are not only familiar with them, but have apparently already helped them escape from the Diamond kingdom, and even received trained with them. The characters were originally introduced in a light novel that serves as a side story to the manga, but it can be infuriating when the manga has flashbacks to events that never occurred in the manga, not only that, but it's nearly impossible to tell when exactly the events of the light novel took place relative to the manga.
16th Sep '17 7:17:40 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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-->'''Julius Caesar:''' Oh Ponce, you are a regular character!

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-->'''Julius Caesar:''' Oh Oh, Ponce, you are you're a regular character!
6th Sep '17 9:55:27 AM Pichu-kun
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** ''Manga/{{Boruto}}'' introduces a bunch of kids that weren't seen in ''Anime/BorutoNarutoTheMovie'', ''Manga/NarutoGaiden'', or the DistantEpilogue. They however are good friends with Boruto during his Academy days. The short showing [[spoiler:Naruto's inauguration]] had new scenes added with some of them in them.

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** ''Manga/{{Boruto}}'' introduces a bunch of kids that weren't seen in ''Anime/BorutoNarutoTheMovie'', ''Manga/NarutoGaiden'', or the DistantEpilogue. They however are good friends with Boruto during his Academy days. The short showing [[spoiler:Naruto's inauguration]] had new scenes added with some of them in them.it.



* ''Disney/TheLionKing'' comics and books are bad at this. Many characters, such as Tama, Tojo, and Malka, appear but are never referenced in other material ever again. Very often they're not given any reason for popping up and are just always presumed to be there. A particularly noticeable example is Mtoto, who is Simba's cousin according to a magazine. Sarabi had sisters very early in development of the film but they were scrapped, and in the final product Nala and Simba are the only two cubs in the Pride. Other examples include the cubs introduced in ''[[Literature/TheLionKingSixNewAdventures Nala's Dare]]'', which apparently were Nala's friends during Scar's reign but are never even implied to exist in the film. In ''The Lion King'' Nala was the only cub in the pride after Simba left.

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* ''Disney/TheLionKing'' ''Franchise//TheLionKing'' comics and books are bad at this. Many characters, such as Tama, Tojo, and Malka, appear but are never referenced in other material ever again. Very often they're not given any reason for popping up and are just always presumed to be there. A particularly noticeable example is Mtoto, who is Simba's cousin according to a magazine. Sarabi had sisters once, but they were scrapped very early in development of the film but they were scrapped, and in development. In the final product Nala and Simba are the only two cubs in the Pride. Other examples include the cubs introduced in ''[[Literature/TheLionKingSixNewAdventures Nala's Dare]]'', which apparently were Nala's friends during Scar's reign but are never even implied to exist in the film. In ''The Lion King'' Nala was the only cub in the pride after Simba left.






* ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' is probably the most extreme example, considering that every legendary is from a legend from long ago, but was only recently introduced to the games' audience. Plus the other 570 (and counting) or so Pokémon introduced after Gen I. This is particularly weird because it sometimes tends to HandWave it as the newly introduced Pokemon being newly-discovered species... even though the residents of that region all know more than enough information about these new mons to train and use them for the same purposes as any other region, which sort of implies that the regions don't interact with each other a whole lot. It's especially odd with with the almost-obligatory [[VideoGameRemake remakes]] two or three generationss later, where once the player beats the Elite Four, the next 200 or so extra Pokémon introduced since the original version will [[UnusuallyUninterestingSight just sort of appear out of nowhere without garnering any attention from anyone]] beyond the local Professor first telling the player that they're here now.
* In the [[NoExportForYou Japan only]] sequel to ''VideoGame/PokemonTradingCardGame'' there is an option to play as a female character. The story still treats them as having done the events in the first game, despite not existing.

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* ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'':
** ''Pokémon''
is probably the most extreme example, considering that every legendary is from a legend from long ago, but was only recently introduced to the games' audience. Plus the other 570 (and counting) or so Pokémon introduced after Gen I. This is particularly weird because it sometimes tends to HandWave it as the newly introduced Pokemon being newly-discovered species... even though the residents of that region all know more than enough information about these new mons to train and use them for the same purposes as any other region, which sort of implies that the regions don't interact with each other a whole lot. It's especially odd with with the almost-obligatory [[VideoGameRemake remakes]] two or three generationss later, where once the player beats the Elite Four, the next 200 or so extra Pokémon introduced since the original version will [[UnusuallyUninterestingSight just sort of appear out of nowhere without garnering any attention from anyone]] beyond the local Professor first telling the player that they're here now.
* ** In the [[NoExportForYou Japan only]] sequel to ''VideoGame/PokemonTradingCardGame'' there is an option to play as a female character. The story still treats them as having done the events in the first game, despite not existing.existing in the first game.


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* ''WesternAnimation/TheMagicSchoolBusRidesAgain'' features a different teacher from Ms. Frizzle: Ms. Frizzle's sister, Ms. (Fiona) Frizzle. In the [[Literature/TheMagicSchoolbus original cartoon]], a large number of Ms. Frizzle's family was either seen or referenced (including her brother John), but she never mentioned having a sister named "Fiona".
4th Sep '17 10:53:12 AM HalcyonDayz
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** In ''Black Heaven'', you are often accompanied by three bird-like NPCs named Dolpi, Gupi, and Lepi. The dialogue suggests you've known them for a long time, although this is the first time they appear.
** In the Madhouse scenario, released in the 2015 Halloween event, your goal is to rescue an old friend named Chloe from a Bedlam House, and some other friend - Eddie, Marilyn, Chu, Lopez, and Sean - come with you. Thing is, all six NPCs don't appear in any previous scenario, despite dialogue that suggests you've known them for a long time.

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** In ''Black Heaven'', you are often accompanied by three bird-like NPCs {{Non Player Character}}s named Dolpi, Gupi, and Lepi. The dialogue suggests you've known them for a long time, although this is the first time they appear.
** In the Madhouse scenario, released in the 2015 Halloween event, your goal is to rescue an old friend named Chloe from a Bedlam House, and some other friend - Eddie, Marilyn, Chu, Lopez, and Sean - come with you. Thing is, all six NPCs [=NPCs=] don't appear in any previous scenario, despite dialogue that suggests you've known them for a long time.
2nd Sep '17 7:27:08 PM louisXVI
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'''Homer:''' Yeah, hi, Roy.

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'''Homer:''' (very blasé) Yeah, hi, hiya Roy.
27th Aug '17 12:13:15 PM Abodos
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* ''Franchise/TheLegendOfZelda'' has Hylia, introduced in ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword'' as a GodOfGood tasked by the Golden Goddesses with guarding the Triforce, the patron deity of the tribe of humans who would subsequently become known as Hylians, the namesake of the land of Hyrule, and [[spoiler:the ancestor of the Royal Family specifically and the Hylians in general on account of the first Zelda being her reincarnation]]. Despite filling such a crucial role for the people of Hyrule, none of the previous ''Zelda'' games from any of the different timelines made any mention of her. Gets even weirder with ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'', the first major console game to be released after ''Skyward Sword'', which is stated to be the latest chronologically in its timeline; statues of Hylia are ubiquitous, and she is worshiped across the land as Hyrule's patron deity. Before ''Breath of the Wild'', fans assumed that the people of Hyrule had forgotten about the Goddess Hylia after so long to justify her absence in previously made but chronologically subsequent games.
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