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1st Dec '16 5:48:08 PM TheUnknownUploader
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2nd Nov '16 7:57:47 PM WillBGood
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** Zigzagged other times in both the tv series and expanded universe. The Eternals [[CompleteImmortality completely immortal,]], [[RealityWarper warp reality]], travel through space and time at will, and have masqueraded as gods on different worlds. A few are said to represent cosmic principles such as Time or Pain. The Olympian gods have been portrayed as real and godlike in the Expanded Universe. The episode "The Satan Pit" featured a creature who claimed to have existed before the universe and been the inspiration for many of the demonic figures in religions across the universe including Satan. The Doctor at one point referred to it as "The Devil."

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** Zigzagged other times in both the tv series and expanded universe. The Eternals are [[CompleteImmortality completely immortal,]], immortal,]] [[RealityWarper warp reality]], travel through space and time at will, and have masqueraded as gods on different worlds. A few are said to represent cosmic principles such as Time or Pain. The Olympian gods have been portrayed as real and godlike in the Expanded Universe. The episode "The Satan Pit" featured a creature who claimed to have existed before the universe and been the inspiration for many of the demonic figures in religions across the universe including Satan. The Doctor at one point referred to it as "The Devil."
24th Oct '16 9:39:13 PM nombretomado
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%%* The most egregious example in the whole of ''Trek'' has to be the ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' episode "Who Watches the Watchers". In it, the ''Enterprise'' crew accidentally injure a member of a primitive society and take him back to the ship for treatment. When he recovers consciousness and sees Picard, he decides the captain is God and manages to convince the rest of his people to worship him. Cue Picard and co sitting in the observation lounge going "[[WesternAnimation/SouthPark Religion is bad. Don't follow a religion. 'Cos religion is bad.]]" GeneRoddenberry expected the episode to be controversial but it had so little relevance to real world religion that no one cared.

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%%* The most egregious example in the whole of ''Trek'' has to be the ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' episode "Who Watches the Watchers". In it, the ''Enterprise'' crew accidentally injure a member of a primitive society and take him back to the ship for treatment. When he recovers consciousness and sees Picard, he decides the captain is God and manages to convince the rest of his people to worship him. Cue Picard and co sitting in the observation lounge going "[[WesternAnimation/SouthPark Religion is bad. Don't follow a religion. 'Cos religion is bad.]]" GeneRoddenberry Creator/GeneRoddenberry expected the episode to be controversial but it had so little relevance to real world religion that no one cared.
20th Sep '16 8:35:57 PM Lullaby22
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** It's mentioned in the PilotEpisode of ''Series/TheGoodPlace'' that all major religions are only about five percent accurate in their conception of the afterlife. The closest person to the truth was a stoner named Doug Forcett who got really high on mushrooms and made a guess that was ninety-three percent accurate.

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** * It's mentioned in the PilotEpisode of ''Series/TheGoodPlace'' that all major religions are only about five percent accurate in their conception of the afterlife. The closest person to the truth was a stoner named Doug Forcett who got really high on mushrooms and made a guess that was ninety-three percent accurate.
20th Sep '16 8:35:40 PM Lullaby22
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** It's mentioned in the PilotEpisode of ''Series/TheGoodPlace'' that all major religions are only about five percent accurate in their conception of the afterlife. The closest person to the truth was a stoner named Doug Forcett who got really high on mushrooms and made a guess that was ninety-three percent accurate.
11th Sep '16 7:56:09 PM PaulA
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[[noreallife]] Creator/IsaacAsimov once said that most ScienceFiction is written by atheists. There are a [[Creator/CSLewis number]] [[Creator/OrsonScottCard of]] [[Creator/CliffordSimak notable]] [[Creator/RayBradbury exceptions]], and it might not be literally true, but SciFi probably has more atheist authors than other genres do. A lot of these writers insert this [[AuthorTract personal outlook]] into the story. Sometimes they just portray atheists as good and rationally thinking people. Sometimes they go further.

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[[noreallife]] Creator/IsaacAsimov once said that most ScienceFiction is written by atheists. There are a [[Creator/CSLewis number]] [[Creator/OrsonScottCard of]] [[Creator/CliffordSimak notable]] [[Creator/RayBradbury exceptions]], number of notable exceptions,[[note]]including Creator/CSLewis, Creator/OrsonScottCard, Creator/CliffordSimak, and Creator/RayBradbury,[[/note]] and it might not be literally true, but SciFi probably has more atheist authors than other genres do. A lot of these writers insert this [[AuthorTract personal outlook]] into the story. Sometimes they just portray atheists as good and rationally thinking people. Sometimes they go further.
6th Aug '16 1:08:37 PM Dravencour
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* In ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'' the players find themselves at the temple of the Asari goddess, Athame. Although most Asari are pantheists anyway, most probably think it was [[OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions simple superstition.]] However if the player brings the teammember of the [[{{Precursors}} Prothean race]] along with them, he deconstructs all their myths: it was them every time. Goddess protected you when "the heavens grew angry?" Prothean-deflected meteor strike. Drove away "jealous gods?" Invasive species. Abundance from on-high? Averted famine, and so on. It is somewhat questionable how true the details are; the Protheans were definitely involved in some way, but Javik also has a habit of lying for his own amusement.

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* In ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'' the players find themselves at the temple of the Asari goddess, Athame. Although most Asari are pantheists anyway, most probably think it was [[OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions simple superstition.]] However if the player brings the teammember of the [[{{Precursors}} Prothean race]] along with them, he deconstructs all their myths: it was them every time. Goddess protected you when "the heavens grew angry?" Prothean-deflected meteor strike. Drove away "jealous gods?" Invasive species. Abundance from on-high? Averted famine, and so on. It is somewhat questionable how true the details are; the Protheans were definitely involved in some way, but Javik also has a habit of lying and {{troll}}ing for his own amusement.
10th Jul '16 11:35:17 AM nombretomado
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* ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'' is either an aversion or a subversion. Chantry says that [[TheGodsMustBeLazy the Maker is just lazy]], prayers are not answered, religion is ''not'' magic (ReligionIsMagic in all other BioWare games which have magic), [[KnightTemplar templars]] are dumb, killers and drug-users, and clergy even refuses to bless an army at some point, making you think that trope is played completery straight... and then the game starts [[ShoutOut quoting]] ''TheLordOfTheRings'' without {{Deconstruction}}. In case you didn't know, ''TheLordOfTheRings'' is about [[{{God}} Ilúvatar's]] guidance. The religious outlook of the game is probably something like "GodIsGood" but religious ''organisations'' can do some pretty stupid things.

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* ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'' is either an aversion or a subversion. Chantry says that [[TheGodsMustBeLazy the Maker is just lazy]], prayers are not answered, religion is ''not'' magic (ReligionIsMagic in all other BioWare Creator/BioWare games which have magic), [[KnightTemplar templars]] are dumb, killers and drug-users, and clergy even refuses to bless an army at some point, making you think that trope is played completery straight... and then the game starts [[ShoutOut quoting]] ''TheLordOfTheRings'' without {{Deconstruction}}. In case you didn't know, ''TheLordOfTheRings'' is about [[{{God}} Ilúvatar's]] guidance. The religious outlook of the game is probably something like "GodIsGood" but religious ''organisations'' can do some pretty stupid things.
23rd Jun '16 6:52:49 AM ImpudentInfidel
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* In ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'' the players find themselves at the temple of the Asari goddess, Athame. Although most Asari are pantheists anyway, most probably think it was [[OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions simple superstition.]] However if the player brings the teammember of the [[{{Precursors}} Prothean race]] along with them, he deconstructs all their myths: it was them every time. Goddess protected you when "the heavens grew angry?" Prothean-deflected meteor strike. Drove away "jealous gods?" Invasive species. Abundance from on-high? Averted famine, and so on.

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* In ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'' the players find themselves at the temple of the Asari goddess, Athame. Although most Asari are pantheists anyway, most probably think it was [[OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions simple superstition.]] However if the player brings the teammember of the [[{{Precursors}} Prothean race]] along with them, he deconstructs all their myths: it was them every time. Goddess protected you when "the heavens grew angry?" Prothean-deflected meteor strike. Drove away "jealous gods?" Invasive species. Abundance from on-high? Averted famine, and so on. It is somewhat questionable how true the details are; the Protheans were definitely involved in some way, but Javik also has a habit of lying for his own amusement.
11th May '16 3:46:03 AM Morgenthaler
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This change can be seen easiest with TheKnightsTemplar in both games. In ''VideoGame/DeusEx'', they were the surviving descendants of the original Knights, who had remained as religious bankers[[note]]The Knights Templar also had ties to the Illuminati, but the Illuminati of ''Deus Ex'' had intrinsic spiritual themes as a contrast to Bob Page's secular Majestic Twelve. Spirituality and religion (in fact, most of them were simply bog standard Catholics) were part of what they were, not a method of controlling people.[[/note]]. In ''Invisible War'', they're one of the only truly "black" factions who will plunge the world into an [[TheFundamentalist extremist]], [[BeliefMakesYouStupid theocratic dark age]] if they win.

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This change can be seen easiest with TheKnightsTemplar UsefulNotes/TheKnightsTemplar in both games. In ''VideoGame/DeusEx'', they were the surviving descendants of the original Knights, who had remained as religious bankers[[note]]The Knights Templar also had ties to the Illuminati, but the Illuminati of ''Deus Ex'' had intrinsic spiritual themes as a contrast to Bob Page's secular Majestic Twelve. Spirituality and religion (in fact, most of them were simply bog standard Catholics) were part of what they were, not a method of controlling people.[[/note]]. In ''Invisible War'', they're one of the only truly "black" factions who will plunge the world into an [[TheFundamentalist extremist]], [[BeliefMakesYouStupid theocratic dark age]] if they win.
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