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6th Feb '16 11:20:15 PM nombretomado
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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons,'' Sideshow Bob, after one of his many stints in prison, has legitimately reformed. However, Bart and Lisa don't believe it (with good reason, given [[CivilianVillain past experience]]), and when Bob's brother's plot is foiled, they both get taken away to jail. Since the brothers are played by KelseyGrammer [[{{Frasier}} and David Hyde-Pierce]] we can be sure that they'll have plenty to talk about in jail.
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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons,'' Sideshow Bob, after one of his many stints in prison, has legitimately reformed. However, Bart and Lisa don't believe it (with good reason, given [[CivilianVillain past experience]]), and when Bob's brother's plot is foiled, they both get taken away to jail. Since the brothers are played by KelseyGrammer [[{{Frasier}} Creator/KelseyGrammer [[Series/{{Frasier}} and David Hyde-Pierce]] we can be sure that they'll have plenty to talk about in jail.
26th Jan '16 8:15:48 AM DarthHowie
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No one doubts Ghaleon has reformed because no one has any reason to THINK he has. This is a case of Good All Along.
* Ghaleon in ''VideoGame/LunarEternalBlue'' is attacked by the hero's party whenever he appears -- understandably, since he was the BigBad in the first game (this was a thousand years ago too, so Ghaleon has become the world's legendary symbol of evil). However, this time he is on the heroes' side from the start, although proving this eventually requires... [[RedemptionEqualsDeath you-know-what.]] This is a bit different though, as Ghaleon spends nearly the entire game making sure the heroes think he's really TheDragon to the new BigBad, while [[StealthMentor covertly training]] the heroes to beat said BigBad. He doesn't actually ''admit'' to being reformed until the [[MeaningfulName meaningfully named]] [[TheHero Hiro]] figures it out on his own, having realized that Ghaleon had passed up multiple opportunities to kill them.
17th Nov '15 9:32:46 PM Xelloss08
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* In ''Anime/ConcreteRevolutioChoujinGensou'', Judas was a member of a criminal organization called the Diamond Eaters. After meeting the superhero Earth-chan, he attempted to reform, but ended up drifting back to the Diamond Eaters because they were the only ones who respected him and his abilities. Judas eventually decided to turn good for real, turning on the Diamond Eaters and serving time in prison for his past crimes, but Earth-chan views him as an incorrigible villain and refuses to believe his reformation is genuine.
7th Nov '15 5:18:39 PM Godzillawolf
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* ''[[http://www.fimfiction.net/story/292353/its-a-long-way-to-the-top It's a Long Way to the Top]]'' has the Dazzlings seemingly reformed, but Rainbow Dash (the human one) is ''far'' from convinced [[spoiler:until she finds out it was Sunset who reformed them.]]
7th Nov '15 6:27:28 AM TheWanderer
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A subtrope to RejectedApology. Contrast TheFarmerAndTheViper, where someone given the opportunity this reformer seeks turns it against his benefactors or RedemptionRejection where a villain is offered a chance to reform only for the villain to refuse. Also contrast with EasilyForgiven where a formerly villainous character is quickly forgiven for any crimes they may have committed as soon as they start helping the good guys. Compare HeelFaceDoorSlam, where the villain never even gets to start their journey to redemption (or attempts to but is rebuffed because their old actions really were too far [[MoralEventHorizon beyond the pale]] for anything resembling a convincing redemption); RedemptionFailure, where they embark on said journey but are turned around by external forces half-way through; and finally, ForgivenessRequiresDeath, where the price to earn the forgiveness of the wronged person is one's own life. See also VillainBallMagnet and TrappedInVillainy. May result from a ThirdActMisunderstanding. If the heroes did forgive him, but still give him this sort of treatment, then it's ForgivenButNotForgotten.
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A subtrope to RejectedApology. Contrast TheFarmerAndTheViper, where someone given the opportunity this reformer seeks turns it against his benefactors or RedemptionRejection where a villain is offered a chance to reform only for the villain to refuse. Also contrast with EasilyForgiven where a formerly villainous character is quickly forgiven for any crimes they may have committed as soon as they start helping the good guys. Compare HeelFaceDoorSlam, where the villain never even gets to start their journey to redemption (or attempts to but is rebuffed because their old actions really were too far [[MoralEventHorizon beyond the pale]] for anything resembling a convincing redemption); RedemptionFailure, where they embark on said journey but are turned around by external forces half-way through; and finally, ForgivenessRequiresDeath, where the price to earn the forgiveness of the wronged person is one's own life. See also VillainBallMagnet and TrappedInVillainy. May result from a ThirdActMisunderstanding. If the heroes did forgive him, but still give him this sort of treatment, then it's ForgivenButNotForgotten. ForgivenButNotForgotten. A RegretfulTraitor may be a victim of this, since they genuinely regret having betrayed their friends, but the betrayal may have cut too deep for their friends to forgive them.
23rd Oct '15 6:34:10 AM Malitia
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* And then ''Comicbook//LokiAgentOfAsgard'' revisited it. Loki did win some acceptance thanks to ''Journey Into Mystery'' [[spoiler:even if it came at the price of child murder that [[MyGreatestFailure they regretted]], long story]], but it won't last. Ever. Asgard will never truly accept the ''god of lies''. [[spoiler:So Loki finally decides to [[StoppedCaring stop caring]] about what they think.]]
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* And then ''Comicbook//LokiAgentOfAsgard'' ''Comicbook/LokiAgentOfAsgard'' revisited it. Loki did win some acceptance thanks to ''Journey Into Mystery'' [[spoiler:even if it came at the price of child murder that [[MyGreatestFailure they regretted]], long story]], but it won't last. Ever. Asgard will never truly accept the ''god of lies''. [[spoiler:So Loki finally decides to [[StoppedCaring stop caring]] about what they think.]]
23rd Oct '15 6:33:01 AM Malitia
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* And then ''Comicbook//LokiAgentOfAsgard'' revisited it. Loki did win some acceptance thanks to ''Journey Into Mystery'' [[spoiler:even if it came at the price of child murder that [[MyGreatestFailure they regretted]], long story]], but it won't last. Ever. Asgard will never truly accept the ''god of lies''. [[spoiler:So Loki finally decides to [[StoppedCaring stop caring]] about what they think.]]
17th Oct '15 3:08:34 PM ThArcanist
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* ''Literature/{{Worm}}'': The supervillain [[spoiler: [[VillainProtagonist Skitter]]]] sacrifices all of her ill-gotten gains because it would give her the best chance to [[SavingTheWorld saving the world]] [[ApocalypseHow from an unknown threat.]] [[HeelFaceTurn She rebrands herself as a hero, but, predictably, isn't largely accepted.]] [[spoiler: To be fair, she did murder [[TheCape one of the greatest heroes in the world]] [[TheCommissionerGordon and the director of a superhero team]] just before her HeelFaceTurn.]]
15th Oct '15 1:15:45 AM Mhazard
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The greatest danger for a ReformedButRejected character, however, is not InspectorJavert, but bad karma. [[RedemptionEqualsDeath It might be safer to just stay bad.]]
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The greatest danger for a ReformedButRejected character, however, is not InspectorJavert, but bad karma. [[RedemptionEqualsDeath It might be safer to just stay bad.bad,]] [[ThenLetMeBeEvil or just outright go worse.]]
23rd Sep '15 6:34:57 PM gregamonster
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** This is also half the reason for the game's overall storyline; the Alliance understandably has a hard time accepting that the new Horde is ideologically opposed to the one that razed their cities to the ground. The fact that they're still a war-like people doesn't help.
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** This is also half the reason for the game's overall storyline; the Alliance understandably has a hard time accepting that the new Horde is ideologically opposed to the one that razed their cities to the ground. The fact that they're still a war-like people who raze their cities to the ground doesn't help.
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