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22nd Oct '17 12:56:09 PM worldofdrakan
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* In ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfSpyro'', even though she had been BrainwashedAndCrazy under Malefor's control, there are still [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer many characters]] who still distrust her post-reformation, despite her and Spyro doing their best to save the world.

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* In ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfSpyro'', even though she had been BrainwashedAndCrazy under Malefor's control, there are still [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer many characters]] who still distrust her Cynder post-reformation, despite her and Spyro doing their best to save the world.
22nd Oct '17 12:55:22 PM worldofdrakan
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* In ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfSpyro'', even though she had been BrainwashedAndCrazy under Malefor's control, there are still [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer many characters]] who still distrust her post-reformation, despite her and Spyro doing their best to save the world.
14th Oct '17 1:23:40 PM Stealth
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* ''ComicBook/TheTransformersIDW'' has Megatron undergoing one of these and joining the Lost Light crew. They're not very fond of him, though, and most tend to distrust and berate him for his previous actions (not without merit--dude has ''hundreds of billions'' of deaths on his shoulders). While there's incidents that hint he might revert back to his tyrannical conqueror behavior, it's stuck for a surprising period of time, up to the point that he [[spoiler:kills the Decepticon Justice Division single-handedly to atone for creating them in the first place]]. At the end of the present arc, he [[spoiler:stays on the horrible alternate universe Functionist Cybertron to lead its resistance against the oppressive Autobots, with the strong implications that this is actually the origin for IDW's version of the Shattered Glass universe.]]
10th Oct '17 7:19:06 PM Steven
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* It is not unheard of for school bullies to meet their victims in public many years later and apologize for their actions towards them. Sometimes, the victim will refuse to forgive them and still think they're same rotten jerk that they knew back then since the painful memories won't let them forget what happened. Similarly, internet trolls or those that engaged in cyberbullying may have a change of heart and find themselves being completely shunted by their former victims.
7th Oct '17 7:49:26 AM lillolillo
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* In "Candor" storyline ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} and ComicBook/PowerGirl team up to save what they believe to be the Bottle City of Kandor -in reality, a psychic manifestation created by [[ComicBook/{{Legion Of Super-Heroes}} telepathic villain Saturn Queen]]- from an evil dictator, but Supergirl -who back then unknowingly suffered from Kryptonite poisoning which altered her behavior- abruptly and unexpectedly leaves. A while later Supergirl has recovered a bit from her sickness and gotten her head together, so she seeks Power Girl out and apologizes for turning her back on her. Her adult counterpart replies she couldn't forgive her or trust her.
4th Oct '17 9:29:59 AM LovePsychothefirst
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* A non-villain example in [[spoiler:Luke fon Fabre]] from ''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss''. [[spoiler:Luke begins the game as a selfish, bratty, extremely naive man-child with few feelings of empathy due to his sheltered and spoiled upbringing. After his WhatHaveIDone moment, he spends the rest of the game trying to convince the entire world that he's changed his ways. The above quote comes after Jade shows that he clearly doesn't trust Luke after meeting up with him, and Anise has a similar reaction when meeting with Luke again. Considering Luke has been recently revealed to be [[YoungerThanTheyLook actually seven]] as he's the replica of the original Luke and he was [[BlamingTheRailroadedPlayerCharacter set up to fail from the start]], this treatment can come across as extremely harsh to the audience.]]

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* A non-villain example in [[spoiler:Luke fon Fabre]] from ''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss''. [[spoiler:Luke begins the game as a selfish, bratty, extremely naive man-child with few feelings of empathy ManChild JerkWithAHeartOfGold due to his sheltered and spoiled upbringing. upbringing since his kidnapping and gaining "[[BlankSlate amnesia]]". After his WhatHaveIDone moment, MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment where he is forced into destroying a whole town by the BigBad, he spends the rest of the game trying to convince the entire world that he's changed his ways. The above quote comes after Jade shows that he clearly doesn't trust Luke after meeting up with him, and Anise has a similar reaction when meeting with Luke again. Considering Luke has been recently revealed to be [[YoungerThanTheyLook actually seven]] as he's the replica of the original Luke and he was [[BlamingTheRailroadedPlayerCharacter set up to fail from the start]], this treatment can come across as extremely harsh to the audience.]]
20th Sep '17 5:04:45 AM ShorinBJ
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** Faith is an interesting case in that she seems to have genuinely reformed post coma, being genuinely nice to Buffy in a dream sequence and telling her how to [[DefeatingTheUndefeatable stop the ascension]]. However after recovering, Faith being haunted by Buffy coming after her and traumatized by her father figure being killed causes her to FreakOut. Her reaction, [[FreakyFridayFlip to swap bodies with Buffy]] and act like a complete JerkAss, is treated as the worst thing that she had ever done. After Faith gets her own body back she runs [[Series/{{Angel}} to LA]], where she goes on a rampage, tortures Wesley, in a bid to [[RedemptionEqualsDeath be killed by Angel]]. He instead sees it as a cry for help and tries to put her on the path of redemption, however Buffy is having none of that and comes to town, still holding a grudge and intent on killing her.

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** Faith is an interesting case in that she seems to have genuinely reformed post coma, being genuinely nice to Buffy in a dream sequence and telling her how to [[DefeatingTheUndefeatable stop the ascension]]. However after recovering, Faith being haunted by Buffy coming after her and traumatized by her father figure being killed causes her to FreakOut. Her reaction, [[FreakyFridayFlip to swap bodies with Buffy]] and act like a complete JerkAss, JerkAss and sleep with Buffy's boyfriend, is treated as the worst thing that she had ever done. After Faith gets her own body back back, she runs [[Series/{{Angel}} to LA]], where she goes on a rampage, rampage and tortures Wesley, Wesley in a bid to [[RedemptionEqualsDeath be killed by Angel]]. He instead sees it as a cry for help and tries to put her on the path of redemption, however Buffy is having none of that and comes to town, still holding a grudge and intent on killing her.



* ''Series/GilmoreGirls'': A romantic rather than villanious version with Jess. He started as JerkAss (albeit JerkWithAHeartOfGold) who lied to Luke, flunked high school, ran away and broke Rory's heart. Later he turns his life around, having published a book, paid Luke back for everything and convinced Rory to fix her own situation. Despite this Rory kisses him and then leaves him for SmugSnake Logan who was partly responsible for her current screw ups. Neither Lorelai, Stars Hollow, or anyone who despised him acknowledge his efforts and its implied they still view him as the 'young hoodlum'.

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* ''Series/GilmoreGirls'': A romantic rather than villanious version with Jess. He started as JerkAss (albeit JerkWithAHeartOfGold) who lied to Luke, flunked high school, ran away away, and broke Rory's heart. Later he turns his life around, having published a book, paid Luke back for everything everything, and convinced Rory to fix her own situation. Despite this this, Rory kisses him and then leaves him for SmugSnake Logan Logan, who was partly responsible for her current screw ups. Neither Lorelai, Stars Hollow, or anyone who despised him acknowledge his efforts efforts, and its it's implied they still view him as the 'young hoodlum'.



* ''Series/OneTreeHill'': Dan Scott [[MoralEventHorizon killed]] [[CainAndAbel his brother Keith]] and framed it on [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds Jimmy]] [[BrotherChuck Edwards]], because he thought Keith tried to kill him. When Dan found out it was Deb, and a witness told Dan's son Luke that Dan killed Keith, he confessed and went to jail for five years before being released for good behavior. He went on to save his grandson Jamie from [[NightmareFuelStationAttendant Nanny Carrie]] twice, saved his son Nathan's career from getting destroyed, and eventually [[spoiler: [[HeroicSacrifice dies saving him]] from Russian Assassins]]. It wasn't until the last one that people finally forgave him. [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming Except Keith, whose spirit tells him how proud he is of the man he became and guides him to heaven.]]

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* ''Series/OneTreeHill'': Dan Scott [[MoralEventHorizon killed]] [[CainAndAbel his brother Keith]] and framed it on [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds Jimmy]] [[BrotherChuck Edwards]], because he thought Keith tried to kill him. When Dan found out it was Deb, and a witness told Dan's son Luke that Dan killed Keith, he confessed and went to jail for five years before being released for good behavior. He went on to save his grandson Jamie from [[NightmareFuelStationAttendant Nanny Carrie]] twice, saved his son Nathan's career from getting destroyed, and eventually [[spoiler: [[HeroicSacrifice dies saving him]] from Russian Assassins]].assassins]]. It wasn't until the last one that people finally forgave him. [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming Except Keith, whose spirit tells him how proud he is of the man he became and guides him to heaven.]]
31st Aug '17 8:45:20 PM RacattackForce
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* At the end of ''Westernanimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls'', BigBad Sunset Shimmer [[HeelFaceTurn sees the error of her ways]] thanks to the Elements of Harmony, and tries to be a better person. The sequel, ''[[Westernanimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsRainbowRocks Rainbow Rocks]]'', shows that she hasn't been so EasilyForgiven by the rest of the school, getting [[DeathGlare nasty looks]] and verbal jabs from the rest of the students except the Humane Five. Principal Celestia takes a passive-aggressive shot at her, saying that the Battle of the Bands will be "the most exciting event since the Fall Formal," which causes Sunset to [[TroubledFetalPosition slink down out of embarrassment]]. Even her friends haven't completely accepted her as when Twilight returns, she's hesitant on taking Sunset's hand. While Twilight is invited to join the groups band instantly, Sunset remains on the sidelines. [[BigBad The Dazzlings]] take ''a lot'' of pleasure in [[KickTheDog rubbing it in her face]] about how she's treated. [[spoiler:[[EarnYourHappyEnding She fights through her shame and self-doubt to play a key role in saving the day, and scenes shown during the credits show that the other students now accept her]].]]

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* At the end of ''Westernanimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls'', BigBad Sunset Shimmer [[HeelFaceTurn sees the error of her ways]] thanks to the Elements of Harmony, and tries to be become a better person. The sequel, ''[[Westernanimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsRainbowRocks Rainbow Rocks]]'', shows that she hasn't been so EasilyForgiven by has the rest of the school, getting character attempting to escape this trope, as even those who don't constantly give her [[DeathGlare nasty looks]] and verbal jabs from the rest of the students except the Humane Five. Principal Celestia takes a passive-aggressive shot at behave passive-aggressively towards her, saying that the Battle of the Bands will be "the most exciting event since the Fall Formal," which causes Sunset to [[TroubledFetalPosition slink down out of embarrassment]]. Even including her friends haven't completely accepted her as when Twilight returns, she's hesitant on taking Sunset's hand. While Twilight is invited to join the groups band instantly, Sunset remains on the sidelines.new friends. [[BigBad The Dazzlings]] take ''a lot'' of pleasure in [[KickTheDog rubbing it in her face]] about how she's treated. [[spoiler:[[EarnYourHappyEnding She fights through her shame guilt and self-doubt to play a key role in saving the day, gaining the school's trust and scenes shown during the credits show that the other students now accept her]].acceptance]].]]
30th Aug '17 7:42:13 AM MagiMecha
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* SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} gets hit with this thanks to the events of ''ComicBook/SecretEmpire'': [[spoiler: he had worked hard to try to be a hero, even when some people thought he wasn't worth it and couldn't stand him being on the Avengers. He had unwittingly joined HYDRA because he followed Steve Rogers and opted to try to subvert many of their actions. However, he ended up in the crosshairs of Maria Hill, who ultimately dropped a parking deck on him just in case she'd thought he would try to double cross her. By the time he gets out, the final fight is over and HYDRA has been defeated, stealing away his chance to show he had truly reformed.]]
6th Aug '17 7:52:08 PM HasturHasturHastur
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On the other hand, there are times where this may be totally reasonable. Yeah, they may have never done anything particularly heinous, but a long history of being a complete fuckup and general thorn in the side of the heroes does not really do much to engender popularity with them. The villain may really want to reform and may have taken honest steps to do so, but the heroes may simply just be so sick of dealing with them and the messes that they cause (''especially'' if they already have multiple failed attempts on their record) that they frankly just don't care. Like ThenLetMeBeEvil, it runs the gamut from a cheap excuse to avoid taking responsibility, to an explanation that has some truth but still doesn't cut it, and all the way to a perfectly valid reason where the heroes are completely in the wrong and really have no one but themselves to blame.
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