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9th Sep '17 2:10:22 PM CommanderVisor
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* Saw Gerrera in ''Film/RogueOne'' from ''Franchise/StarWars'' quit the Rebel Alliance with his Partisans due to conflict over their ''modus operandi'', as Saw's was at odds with their [[BlackAndGreyMorality morals]], [[NiceJobBreakingItHero goals]], and caused [[YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters negative public relations]], not helped with his growing paranoia on who to trust due to receiving several assassination attempts and being poisoned to the point where he needs mobile life support by the time we see him in ''Rogue One''. [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse Expanded Universe material]] further elaborates on the tension between the two groups, with the final season of ''[[WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels Rebels]]'' television show detailing what exactly was the final straw for Saw and the Alliance for the former to split away.
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16th Jun '17 7:35:20 AM BeerBaron
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* In ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'', this is the stance of many [[HornyVikings Nords]] in regards to the Skyrim {{Civil War}}. Skyrim has long been a major supporter of the [[TheEmpire Third Tamriellic Empire]], which was founded by Talos (more commonly known by his Imperial name of Tiber Septim), one of their [[TheParagon great cultural heroes]] who [[DeityOfHumanOrigin ascended to godhood]] as the Ninth Divine after his death. However, when Septim's dynasty ended during the [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion Crisis]], the Empire entered a swift decline. By the events of ''Skyrim'' some 200 years later, the Empire is [[VestigialEmpire a shell of its former self]], reduced to just three functional provinces. While they managed to fend off the [[AntiHumanAlliance Aldmeri Dominion]] during the [[GreatOffscreenWar Great War]], they were forced to accept a humiliating treaty to end it, known as the White-Gold Concordat. One of the provisions of the Concordat is a ban on Talos worship, enforced by the [[OurElvesAreBetter Altmeri (High Elf)]] religious extremists, the [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Thalmor]]. Most Nords [[RealMenLoveJesus would rather die than stop worshiping Talos]], so the Holds of eastern Skyrim broke off and formed the Stormcloak Rebellion, named after its leader, [[RebelLeader Ulfric Stormcloak]]. While there are still Nords who genuinely support the Empire, many other Imperial-aligned Nords suggest that this is done out of a sense of tradition, a belief that independence would be disastrous for their homeland, and outright distrust for the [[FantasticRacism nationalistic]] and HumanityIsSuperior attitude held by Ulfric and his Stormcloak army.
31st May '17 9:34:09 PM PaulA
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* In Creator/RobertAHeinlein's ''Literature/TheRoadsMustRoll'', when the workers are organizing their strike on the grounds that transportion being so necessary, they should use their clout for extortion, one worker objects that the terms of their employment are not actually oppressive; when the strike actually occurs, he goes to the boss to offer his help. [[spoiler:The strikers murder him in a parlay.]]

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In Creator/RobertAHeinlein's ''Literature/TheRoadsMustRoll'', when the workers are organizing their strike on the grounds that transportion being so necessary, they should use their clout for extortion, one worker objects that the terms of their employment are not actually oppressive; when the strike actually occurs, he goes to the boss to offer his help. [[spoiler:The strikers murder him in a parlay.]]
8th May '17 5:28:01 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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* In 2008 Pro Wrestling Revolution was born as part of the Wrestling/NationalWrestlingAlliance, started with the goal to take pro wrestling back to where it was supposed to be and to acknowledged the lucha libre culture that was being shunned in the USA. But a year in Fabe Ramirez made it increasingly clear that all who were not with Revolution were against Revolution Billy Blade started a Vendetta against it. Five years in Vendetta Pro became an official NWA member.[[/folder]]

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* In 2008 Pro Wrestling Revolution was born as part of the Wrestling/NationalWrestlingAlliance, started with the goal to take pro wrestling back to where it was supposed to be and to acknowledged the lucha libre culture that was being shunned in the USA. But a year in Fabe Ramirez made it increasingly clear that all who were not with Revolution were against Revolution Revolution, so Billy Blade started a Vendetta against it. Five years in Vendetta Pro became an official NWA member.[[/folder]]
7th May '17 5:18:31 PM nombretomado
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* Jim Raynor from ''VideoGame/StarCraft'' is a borderline case in that he only leaves LaResistance when it has already defeated TheEmpire through dubious means, and [[MeetTheNewBoss begins its transition into the '''new''' Empire]]. He becomes the new Resistance, and throughout ''StarCraft 2'' his major worry is that he'll turn out just as corrupt as his former allies.

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* Jim Raynor from ''VideoGame/StarCraft'' ''VideoGame/StarCraftI'' is a borderline case in that he only leaves LaResistance when it has already defeated TheEmpire through dubious means, and [[MeetTheNewBoss begins its transition into the '''new''' Empire]]. He becomes the new Resistance, and throughout ''StarCraft 2'' ''''VideoGame/StarCraftII'' his major worry is that he'll turn out just as corrupt as his former allies.
4th May '17 2:22:45 PM Gregzilla
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* Loki in their newer incarnations. Past Loki successfully noticed that he became {{reliable|Traitor}} in his villainy so he made arrangements to change that by dying and other very extreme measures (like not being one of anything). The kicker is? Most people don't want them to! Why? Because Loki's other setting is a chaotic trickster which is really not something the powers that be can use. [[Comicbook/LokiAgentOfAsgard Their predictable evil was actually good for making the Asgardians look good in comparison and create an "easily" defeatable threat to stabilize their society]]. So they're currently rebelling against rebelling, because that counter-intuitively causes things to stay the same. Got that?

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* Loki in their newer incarnations. Past Loki successfully noticed that he became {{reliable|Traitor}} traitor in his villainy so he made arrangements to change that by dying and other very extreme measures (like not being one of anything). The kicker is? Most people don't want them to! Why? Because Loki's other setting is a chaotic trickster which is really not something the powers that be can use. [[Comicbook/LokiAgentOfAsgard Their predictable evil was actually good for making the Asgardians look good in comparison and create an "easily" defeatable threat to stabilize their society]]. So they're currently rebelling against rebelling, because that counter-intuitively causes things to stay the same. Got that?
26th Apr '17 3:24:51 PM NNinja
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** This worked because the Black Knights were TooDumbToLive to realize that if Zero had really done what they thought he had, they'd literally be incapable of even thinking about turning on him.
*** And finding out about the Special Zone?
*** The point still stands, [[QuoteMine given the only "evidence" they have is a voice recording from Lelouch basically saying "I did it" in a dull, emotionless tone]]. The technology to doctor something like that almost certainly exists in the Code Geass Universe, and ''none of the Black Knights but Kallen have ever heard Lelouch's real voice.'' And she wasn't even asked to comment before they made a decision! And worse yet, it was a small extract of a much longer conversation that involved [[spoiler:Suzaku realising that Lelouch was lying to him,]] and they didn't bother asking to speak with Suzaku, who was the one the evidence was taken from.
*** Of course, the Black Knights [[spoiler: were a legal organisation by this point, so they were just mutineers.]]
*** The whole IdiotBall was used to HandWave the debate errors and just anchor the point that [[spoiler:Schnizel is such a MagnificentBastard that he can turn an army of rebels into TheEmpire's military without them realizing they've just switched sides]].
** Also Suzaku. He rebels against just about any rebellion possible until, well... [[spoiler:he doesn't anymore and he gets with the program]]. Ironically, this makes him '''TheParagon''' [[spoiler:As he becomes the new ''General of Britannia'', [[ItMakesSenseInContext while the Knights of the Round Table end up becoming ''rebels'']]]].
** In the early stages of its existence, The Order of the Black Knights could already be considered this, since, like Lelouch pointed out to the first members of the Black Knights, traditional terrorism doesn't accomplish anything. This resulted in saving a number of Britannian hostages from a fellow terrorist organization as their first public appearance, so that they could declare themselves as "champions of justice" and gain public support.
*** The aforementioned hostage-taking by the Japan Liberation Front was itself this trope, as it was undertaken by a small clique led by Kusakabe and not approved by the JLF leadership, who preferred the idea of a guerilla war against Britannia.
26th Apr '17 5:24:28 AM MitchellProductions
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** When California threatened to succeed from the Union after the election of UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump, the Northern Most Counties threatened to succeed back as the State of Jefferson (not that this was the first time they made such threats, just the first time they made the threat after full State Succession was discussed.).

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** When California threatened to succeed secede from the Union after the election of UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump, the Northern Most Counties threatened to succeed secede back as the State of Jefferson (not that this was the first time they made such threats, just the first time they made the threat after full State Succession Secession was discussed.).
23rd Mar '17 1:28:50 PM Grudgeal
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* Michio Pa in ''Literature/TheExpanse''. She starts out a belter and joins the [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized OPA]] to rebel against the oppression against the inner planets. Then, the leader of the OPA gets her girlfriend killed thanks to sending her [[GeneralRipper on a mission with a bad commanding officer]], so Michio jumps ship and joins the Free Belter Navy, an OPA splinter faction. She then realizes the boss of the Free Belter Navy is TheSociopath who doesn't give a hoot about the Belt at all so she [[StartMyOwn starts her own splinter faction]] inside a splinter faction from a revolutionary organization. [[spoiler:She ends up [[StrangeBedfellows being forced to work with Earth and Mars, the factions she started rebelling against in the first place]], and is voted the head of the Spacing Guild.]]
28th Feb '17 9:25:38 AM hszmv1
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** When California threatened to succeed from the Union after the election of UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump, the Northern Most Counties threatened to succeed back as the State of Jefferson (not that this was the first time they made such threats, just the first time they made the threat after full State Succession was discussed.).
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