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21st Sep '16 8:38:53 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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[[DefectorFromDecadence This is usually triggered by some kind of immoral action of the rebel leader who defected in the first place]]. Either by CharacterDevelopment or just revealed to be a [[BitchInSheepsClothing real bastard beneath his nice demeanor]], he will end up having some sort of KickTheDog moment to make the RebelliousRebel [[WhatTheHellHero call this out to the leader]] and leave the rebellion, or [[CrapsackWorld depending on the setting]], get killed for wronging their superiors.

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[[DefectorFromDecadence This is usually triggered by some kind of immoral action of the rebel leader who defected in the first place]]. Either by CharacterDevelopment or just revealed to be a [[BitchInSheepsClothing real bastard beneath his nice demeanor]], he will end up having some sort of KickTheDog moment to make the RebelliousRebel Rebellious Rebel [[WhatTheHellHero call this out to the leader]] and leave the rebellion, or [[CrapsackWorld depending on the setting]], get killed for wronging their superiors.
21st Sep '16 8:35:55 PM kome360
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** Also Suzaku. He rebels just about any rebellion possible until, well... [[spoiler:he doesn't anymore and he gets with the program.]]

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*** The whole IdiotBall was used to HandWave the debate errors and just anchor the point that [[spoiler:Schnizel is such a MagnificentBastard that he can turn an army of rebels into TheEmpire's military without them realizing they've just switched sides]].
** Also Suzaku. He rebels against just about any rebellion possible until, well... [[spoiler:he doesn't anymore and he gets with the program.]]program]]. Ironically, this makes him '''TheParagon''' [[spoiler:As he becomes the new ''General of Britannia'', [[ItMakesSenseInContext while the Knights of the Round Table end up becoming ''rebels'']]]].
13th Aug '16 5:52:29 PM nombretomado
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* {{Zig Zagg|ingTrope}}ed in the {{Discworld}} novel Discworld/NightWatch; Sam Vimes is sent 30 years back in time and takes the place of his old mentor, John Keel. The city is on the brink of a bloody rebellion that will replace the Patrician with one who, in hindsight, is just as bad. With three decades more life experience than his also present younger self, Vimes can see the rebellion clearly as a sham, and [[NotInThisForYourRevolution has no more patience with the rebels than the authorities]]. He still has to play the part that the original Keel did, however, in order to preserve the timeline, but concentrates on just protecting a few streets from needless bloodshed. The zig-zagging is in him considering whether this was true of the real Keel as well; they performed nearly the same actions, but young Vimes thought Keel was a genuine revolutionary, and only now realizes that may not have been the case.

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* {{Zig Zagg|ingTrope}}ed in the {{Discworld}} Literature/{{Discworld}} novel Discworld/NightWatch; ''Discworld/NightWatch''; Sam Vimes is sent 30 years back in time and takes the place of his old mentor, John Keel. The city is on the brink of a bloody rebellion that will replace the Patrician with one who, in hindsight, is just as bad. With three decades more life experience than his also present younger self, Vimes can see the rebellion clearly as a sham, and [[NotInThisForYourRevolution has no more patience with the rebels than the authorities]]. He still has to play the part that the original Keel did, however, in order to preserve the timeline, but concentrates on just protecting a few streets from needless bloodshed. The zig-zagging is in him considering whether this was true of the real Keel as well; they performed nearly the same actions, but young Vimes thought Keel was a genuine revolutionary, and only now realizes that may not have been the case.
6th Aug '16 10:38:49 PM thatother1dude
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* The alternate dimension version of Buford in ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerbTheMovieAcrossThe2ndDimension''. It's not that he has a problem with the rebellion; he just likes rebelling. The source of the former page quote.
->'''Phineas-2''': "Are you part of the resistance?"\\
'''Buford-2''': "Yeah, and I got so good at that, I started resisting THEM too!"\\
* And later in the movie
--> '''Candace-2''': Buford, keep resisting.
-->'''Buford-2''': No.
--> '''Candance-2''': Good.

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* The alternate dimension version of Buford in ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerbTheMovieAcrossThe2ndDimension''. It's not that he has ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerbTheMovieAcrossThe2ndDimension'' doesn't a problem with the rebellion; rebellion, [[CommanderContrarian he just likes rebelling. The source of the former page quote.
->'''Phineas-2''': "Are
rebelling]].
-->'''Phineas-2''': Are
you part of the resistance?"\\
resistance?\\
'''Buford-2''': "Yeah, Yeah, and I got so good at that, I started resisting THEM too!"\\
* And later in the movie
-->
too!\\
...\\
'''Candace-2''': Buford, keep resisting.
-->'''Buford-2''': No.
-->
resisting.\\
'''Buford-2''': No.\\
'''Candance-2''': Good.
30th Jul '16 1:00:43 PM nombretomado
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* DavidWeber's ''Literature/EmpireFromTheAshes'' series has a variation on this trope, as applied to a mutiny. Some of Anu's mutineers rebel in horror when they realize his true, megalomaniacal motives and spend the rest of their lives trying to make right their mistake, forming a third faction that watches over the descendants over the original loyalists to the Captain (aka the Human race).

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* DavidWeber's Creator/DavidWeber's ''Literature/EmpireFromTheAshes'' series has a variation on this trope, as applied to a mutiny. Some of Anu's mutineers rebel in horror when they realize his true, megalomaniacal motives and spend the rest of their lives trying to make right their mistake, forming a third faction that watches over the descendants over the original loyalists to the Captain (aka the Human race).
24th Jul '16 5:18:37 PM nombretomado
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* In Chrono's backstory in ''ChronoCrusade'', he was originally fully behind the Sinner's rebellion [[DefectorFromDecadence against demon society]]. However, he couldn't agree with [[DarkMessiah Aion's]] tactics and ended up rebelling against the Sinners, and eventually joined [[ChurchMilitant The Magdalene Order]].

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* In Chrono's backstory in ''ChronoCrusade'', ''Manga/ChronoCrusade'', he was originally fully behind the Sinner's rebellion [[DefectorFromDecadence against demon society]]. However, he couldn't agree with [[DarkMessiah Aion's]] tactics and ended up rebelling against the Sinners, and eventually joined [[ChurchMilitant The Magdalene Order]].
6th Jul '16 2:04:41 AM WM-R
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* During the [[UsefulNotes/ThreeKingdomsShuWeiWu Three Kingdoms period of China]], the general Dong Zhuo seized control of the Han Empire in 184 and ruled as a tyrant. After he was driven to the western capital of Chang'an, he was assassinated in 192. The remnants of his forces under Li Jue, Guo Si, Fan Chou and Zhang Ji rallied their forces and allied with various bandit and rebel groups in the area to capture the capital and take his place, but after a mere three years began fighting among themselves, [[NoHonorAmongThieves beginning with Li Jue murdering Fan Chou]]. This became so bad that some of the bandits who allied with them previously now helped the Emperor escape the city and fought numerous running battles as they tried to escort the Emperor back to the imperial capital of Luoyang.
19th Jun '16 2:39:52 PM nombretomado
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* Garm Bel Iblis from TheThrawnTrilogy is an unusually mild example. He was a major part of the young Rebel Alliance and split with it because, after Bail Organa's death on Alderaan, he saw Mon Mothma as gathering more and more power to herself and her closest allies. His smaller, separate rebellion didn't get in the other one's way, but harassed the Empire on its own. Even after Mon Mothma's Rebellion won and reformed into the New Republic, he stayed away, seeing his former ally seem to consolidate power even further. But when someone from the New Republic needed rescue, he did it, and accepted the formal invitation to join. Not long after, he saw ''why'' Mon Mothma did as she did. Not for personal power, but because so few people could be trusted with the responsibility of billions of lives.

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* Garm Bel Iblis from TheThrawnTrilogy Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy is an unusually mild example. He was a major part of the young Rebel Alliance and split with it because, after Bail Organa's death on Alderaan, he saw Mon Mothma as gathering more and more power to herself and her closest allies. His smaller, separate rebellion didn't get in the other one's way, but harassed the Empire on its own. Even after Mon Mothma's Rebellion won and reformed into the New Republic, he stayed away, seeing his former ally seem to consolidate power even further. But when someone from the New Republic needed rescue, he did it, and accepted the formal invitation to join. Not long after, he saw ''why'' Mon Mothma did as she did. Not for personal power, but because so few people could be trusted with the responsibility of billions of lives.
20th May '16 5:44:09 PM eroock
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His loyalty he kept, his love, his zeal;"''\\
--'''Creator/JohnMilton''', ''Literature/ParadiseLost''

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His loyalty he kept, his love, his zeal;"''\\
--'''Creator/JohnMilton''',
zeal;"''
-->-- '''Creator/JohnMilton''',
''Literature/ParadiseLost''
9th May '16 3:27:33 PM nighttrainfm
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* ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' has David.

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* ''Literature/{{Animorphs}}'' has David. He starts out as a very-reluctant new addition to the team's anti-Yeerk resistance movement, only to rebel against them and briefly become a side unto himself.
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