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18th Mar '16 6:15:38 PM Paranoia
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* [[Film/ConanTheBarbarian Conan]] manages an unusual variant when he prays to his patron, Krom, just before the final showdown. Krom is a stoic and aloof warrior god, one who teaches that his followers should be strong enough to solve their own problems (and thus ''asking'' for his help displeases him, so he never grants it). But Conan's heartfelt prayer strikes just the right balance of humility (I probably can't win this fight), honor (I'm going to fight anyway), and bravado (If you won't help, screw you anyway!) that Krom actually sends him a minor miracle, just enough to give Conan a ''chance''.

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* [[Film/ConanTheBarbarian [[Film/ConanTheBarbarian1982 Conan]] manages an unusual variant when he prays to his patron, Krom, just before the final showdown. Krom is a stoic and aloof warrior god, one who teaches that his followers should be strong enough to solve their own problems (and thus ''asking'' for his help displeases him, so he never grants it). But Conan's heartfelt prayer strikes just the right balance of humility (I probably can't win this fight), honor (I'm going to fight anyway), and bravado (If you won't help, screw you anyway!) that Krom actually sends him a minor miracle, just enough to give Conan a ''chance''.
18th Mar '16 6:15:09 PM Paranoia
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* [[ConanTheBarbarian Conan]] manages an unusual variant when he prays to his patron, Krom, just before the final showdown. Krom is a stoic and aloof warrior god, one who teaches that his followers should be strong enough to solve their own problems (and thus ''asking'' for his help displeases him, so he never grants it). But Conan's heartfelt prayer strikes just the right balance of humility (I probably can't win this fight), honor (I'm going to fight anyway), and bravado (If you won't help, screw you anyway!) that Krom actually sends him a minor miracle, just enough to give Conan a ''chance''.

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* [[ConanTheBarbarian [[Film/ConanTheBarbarian Conan]] manages an unusual variant when he prays to his patron, Krom, just before the final showdown. Krom is a stoic and aloof warrior god, one who teaches that his followers should be strong enough to solve their own problems (and thus ''asking'' for his help displeases him, so he never grants it). But Conan's heartfelt prayer strikes just the right balance of humility (I probably can't win this fight), honor (I'm going to fight anyway), and bravado (If you won't help, screw you anyway!) that Krom actually sends him a minor miracle, just enough to give Conan a ''chance''.
18th Mar '16 6:14:24 PM Paranoia
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* [[ConanTheBarbarian Conan]] manages an unusual variant when he prays to his patron, Krom, just before the final showdown. Krom is a stoic and aloof warrior god, one who teaches that his followers should be strong enough to solve their own problems (and thus ''asking'' for his help displeases him, so he never grants it). But Conan's heartfelt prayer strikes just the right balance of humility (I probably can't win this fight), honor (I'm going to fight anyway), and bravado (If you won't help, screw you anyway!) that Krom actually sends him a minor miracle, just enough to give Conan a ''chance''.
9th Dec '15 9:58:56 PM Vilui
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* Subverted in ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick''. Roy gives a moving speech to the Northern Gods at the Godsmoot... but the moot chamber is set up for the gods to communicate through their priests, not for them to listen to mortals.
5th Dec '15 4:35:57 PM nombretomado
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* Big Bird in the SesameStreet movie ''Don[='=]t Eat The Pictures'': when an Egyptian boy who died young and was forced to stay on Earth of thousands of years, goes before Osiris for judgment to ascend into the heavens, he initially fails the test. Osiris pronounces judgment, at which point Big Bird gets him straight with a [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech reason the system sucks]] speech, causing the boy's heart to get lighter and thus pass the test. Read: Big Bird told the big boss of Myth/EgyptianMythology he didn't know what he was talking about, and got an afterlife verdict reversed.

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* Big Bird in the SesameStreet ''Series/SesameStreet'' movie ''Don[='=]t Eat The Pictures'': when an Egyptian boy who died young and was forced to stay on Earth of thousands of years, goes before Osiris for judgment to ascend into the heavens, he initially fails the test. Osiris pronounces judgment, at which point Big Bird gets him straight with a [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech reason the system sucks]] speech, causing the boy's heart to get lighter and thus pass the test. Read: Big Bird told the big boss of Myth/EgyptianMythology he didn't know what he was talking about, and got an afterlife verdict reversed.
9th Oct '15 3:06:12 PM nombretomado
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* The ''PercyJackson'' series is the definition of this trope. Percy and Co. often convince the gods to either a, help them, or b, at least not to destroy them completely.

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* The ''PercyJackson'' ''Literature/{{Percy Jackson|and the Olympians}}'' series is the definition of this trope. Percy and Co. often convince the gods to either a, help them, or b, at least not to destroy them completely.
26th Aug '15 8:05:43 PM nombretomado
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* On ''Series/MysteryScienceTheatre3000'', they spoof this trope while watching Jack Frost, specifically the scene where the girl has to finish her sock before the sun rises, and the girl asks the sun to wait.

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* On ''Series/MysteryScienceTheatre3000'', ''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000'', they spoof this trope while watching Jack Frost, specifically the scene where the girl has to finish her sock before the sun rises, and the girl asks the sun to wait.
27th Jul '15 7:12:07 PM TimG5
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Also compare with WowingCthulhu. In that trope, the being is able to surprise or amaze one that is far superior to them in some respect. These two tropes overlap when the lesser character is able to wow the godly being ''with'' reason.
30th Jun '15 10:13:23 PM Chabal2
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* [[spoiler:Cassidy]] makes a deal with God towards the end of ''{{ComicBook/Preacher}}'': [[spoiler:he distracts and arranges for Jesse to get killed, forcing Genesis to leave the host and thus no longer posing any danger to God]]. In exchange, God brings Jesse and friends BackFromTheDead, minus vampirism in Cassidy's case.]] All goes as worked out, with the minor detail that [[spoiler:while God was away and thus non-omniscient, the Saint of Killers went OneManArmy on the armies of Heaven, sitting on the Throne of Paradise before God could get to it and ''killing God'']].

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* [[spoiler:Cassidy]] makes a deal with God towards the end of ''{{ComicBook/Preacher}}'': [[spoiler:he distracts and arranges for Jesse to get killed, forcing Genesis to leave the host and thus no longer posing any danger to God]].God. In exchange, God brings Jesse and friends BackFromTheDead, minus vampirism in Cassidy's case.]] All goes as worked out, with the minor detail that [[spoiler:while God was away and thus non-omniscient, the Saint of Killers went OneManArmy on the armies of Heaven, sitting on the Throne of Paradise before God could get to it and ''killing God'']].
30th Jun '15 10:12:47 PM Chabal2
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* In the pages of ''ComicBook/TheSandman'', as indeed in the original story, Orpheus manages to convince Hades and Persephone - the god and goddess of the land of the dead - to allow his lost love Eurydike to follow him back to the land of the living through the beauty of his music. It still doesn't end well.

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* In the pages of ''ComicBook/TheSandman'', as indeed in the original story, Orpheus manages to convince Hades and Persephone - the god and goddess of the land of the dead - to allow his lost love Eurydike Eurydice to follow him back to the land of the living through the beauty of his music. It still doesn't end well.
* [[spoiler:Cassidy]] makes a deal with God towards the end of ''{{ComicBook/Preacher}}'': [[spoiler:he distracts and arranges for Jesse to get killed, forcing Genesis to leave the host and thus no longer posing any danger to God]]. In exchange, God brings Jesse and friends BackFromTheDead, minus vampirism in Cassidy's case.]] All goes as worked out, with the minor detail that [[spoiler:while God was away and thus non-omniscient, the Saint of Killers went OneManArmy on the armies of Heaven, sitting on the Throne of Paradise before God could get to it and ''killing God'']].
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