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19th Sep '16 9:51:46 PM PaulA
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* Several instances in ''Literature/IncarnationsOfImmortality'' of mortals at least attempting to convince Incarnations to intervene and change an event, most notably Niobe's efforts to reverse first husband Cedric's death. When Kerena can't get any Incarnation to listen to her (she's trying to save her baby's life), she [[spoiler: becomes Nox, Incarnation of Night, and launches a centuries-long series of plots and manipulations not only to get revenge on the Incarnations of her time, but to help place Incarnations she considers better for their jobs and to eventually gain back her child (sort of)]].

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* Several instances in ''Literature/IncarnationsOfImmortality'' of mortals at least attempting to convince Incarnations to intervene and change an event, most notably Niobe's efforts to reverse first husband Cedric's death. When death in ''Literature/WithATangledSkein''. In ''Literature/UnderAVelvetCloak'', when Kerena can't get any Incarnation to listen to her (she's trying to save her baby's life), she [[spoiler: becomes [[spoiler:becomes Nox, Incarnation of Night, and launches a centuries-long series of plots and manipulations not only to get revenge on the Incarnations of her time, but to help place Incarnations she considers better for their jobs and to eventually gain back her child (sort of)]].
25th Jul '16 9:04:58 PM ImpudentInfidel
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* ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'': Ben Sisko gets the Prophets to intervene during the climax of the episode "Sacrifice of Angels"; they wipe out an entire Dominion fleet entering the wormhole.

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* ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'': Ben Sisko gets the Prophets to intervene during the climax of the episode "Sacrifice of Angels"; they wipe out an entire Dominion fleet entering the wormhole. Another episode has Quark of all people do this, by pointing out that if they erase his memory of the conversation and send him back he'll just keep having the same idea and coming back, but if they do what he asks (undoing something they'd done to another visitor for wasting their time) instead the story will spread and nobody will bother them with mundane matters again.
16th Jun '16 8:22:08 PM nombretomado
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* There was an issue in ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'' where Spidey dies along with a little girl he was trying to save. After a brief fight with {{Thanos}}, he talks to [[TheGrimReaper Death]] herself, convincing her to allow a little girl to come back to life. In honor of his bravery, Spider-Man comes back as well.

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* There was an issue in ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'' where Spidey dies along with a little girl he was trying to save. After a brief fight with {{Thanos}}, ComicBook/{{Thanos}}, he talks to [[TheGrimReaper Death]] herself, convincing her to allow a little girl to come back to life. In honor of his bravery, Spider-Man comes back as well.
29th May '16 8:01:26 PM DarkHunter
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* Subverted in ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick''. Roy gives a moving speech to the Northern Gods at the Godsmoot... but the moot chamber is set up for the gods to communicate through their priests, not for them to listen to mortals.

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* Subverted in ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick''. Roy gives a moving speech to the Northern Gods at the Godsmoot... but the moot chamber is set up for the gods to communicate through their priests, not for them to listen to mortals.
mortals. As a result, none of them can hear Roy, and none of the priests have the heart to inform Roy of this.
18th Mar '16 6:15:38 PM Paranoia
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* [[Film/ConanTheBarbarian Conan]] manages an unusual variant when he prays to his patron, Krom, just before the final showdown. Krom is a stoic and aloof warrior god, one who teaches that his followers should be strong enough to solve their own problems (and thus ''asking'' for his help displeases him, so he never grants it). But Conan's heartfelt prayer strikes just the right balance of humility (I probably can't win this fight), honor (I'm going to fight anyway), and bravado (If you won't help, screw you anyway!) that Krom actually sends him a minor miracle, just enough to give Conan a ''chance''.

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* [[Film/ConanTheBarbarian [[Film/ConanTheBarbarian1982 Conan]] manages an unusual variant when he prays to his patron, Krom, just before the final showdown. Krom is a stoic and aloof warrior god, one who teaches that his followers should be strong enough to solve their own problems (and thus ''asking'' for his help displeases him, so he never grants it). But Conan's heartfelt prayer strikes just the right balance of humility (I probably can't win this fight), honor (I'm going to fight anyway), and bravado (If you won't help, screw you anyway!) that Krom actually sends him a minor miracle, just enough to give Conan a ''chance''.
18th Mar '16 6:15:09 PM Paranoia
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* [[ConanTheBarbarian Conan]] manages an unusual variant when he prays to his patron, Krom, just before the final showdown. Krom is a stoic and aloof warrior god, one who teaches that his followers should be strong enough to solve their own problems (and thus ''asking'' for his help displeases him, so he never grants it). But Conan's heartfelt prayer strikes just the right balance of humility (I probably can't win this fight), honor (I'm going to fight anyway), and bravado (If you won't help, screw you anyway!) that Krom actually sends him a minor miracle, just enough to give Conan a ''chance''.

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* [[ConanTheBarbarian [[Film/ConanTheBarbarian Conan]] manages an unusual variant when he prays to his patron, Krom, just before the final showdown. Krom is a stoic and aloof warrior god, one who teaches that his followers should be strong enough to solve their own problems (and thus ''asking'' for his help displeases him, so he never grants it). But Conan's heartfelt prayer strikes just the right balance of humility (I probably can't win this fight), honor (I'm going to fight anyway), and bravado (If you won't help, screw you anyway!) that Krom actually sends him a minor miracle, just enough to give Conan a ''chance''.
18th Mar '16 6:14:24 PM Paranoia
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* [[ConanTheBarbarian Conan]] manages an unusual variant when he prays to his patron, Krom, just before the final showdown. Krom is a stoic and aloof warrior god, one who teaches that his followers should be strong enough to solve their own problems (and thus ''asking'' for his help displeases him, so he never grants it). But Conan's heartfelt prayer strikes just the right balance of humility (I probably can't win this fight), honor (I'm going to fight anyway), and bravado (If you won't help, screw you anyway!) that Krom actually sends him a minor miracle, just enough to give Conan a ''chance''.
9th Dec '15 9:58:56 PM Vilui
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* Subverted in ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick''. Roy gives a moving speech to the Northern Gods at the Godsmoot... but the moot chamber is set up for the gods to communicate through their priests, not for them to listen to mortals.
5th Dec '15 4:35:57 PM nombretomado
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* Big Bird in the SesameStreet movie ''Don[='=]t Eat The Pictures'': when an Egyptian boy who died young and was forced to stay on Earth of thousands of years, goes before Osiris for judgment to ascend into the heavens, he initially fails the test. Osiris pronounces judgment, at which point Big Bird gets him straight with a [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech reason the system sucks]] speech, causing the boy's heart to get lighter and thus pass the test. Read: Big Bird told the big boss of Myth/EgyptianMythology he didn't know what he was talking about, and got an afterlife verdict reversed.

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* Big Bird in the SesameStreet ''Series/SesameStreet'' movie ''Don[='=]t Eat The Pictures'': when an Egyptian boy who died young and was forced to stay on Earth of thousands of years, goes before Osiris for judgment to ascend into the heavens, he initially fails the test. Osiris pronounces judgment, at which point Big Bird gets him straight with a [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech reason the system sucks]] speech, causing the boy's heart to get lighter and thus pass the test. Read: Big Bird told the big boss of Myth/EgyptianMythology he didn't know what he was talking about, and got an afterlife verdict reversed.
9th Oct '15 3:06:12 PM nombretomado
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* The ''PercyJackson'' series is the definition of this trope. Percy and Co. often convince the gods to either a, help them, or b, at least not to destroy them completely.

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* The ''PercyJackson'' ''Literature/{{Percy Jackson|and the Olympians}}'' series is the definition of this trope. Percy and Co. often convince the gods to either a, help them, or b, at least not to destroy them completely.
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