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11th Jun '16 7:36:59 PM Toadofsteel
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* The main quest of ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' features a quest that involves complex negotiations between the two Civil War factions. Tullius was seen ready to behead Ulfric at the beginning of the game, but then is seen negotiating with him because the dragon threat is too large for either side to ignore anymore. Elisif and Galmar are both miffed at the idea of just freely giving away territory, but Tullius and Ulfric both see the value. The player can influence these negotiations, though favoring one side too heavily will make the other side dislike you more.
10th Jun '16 2:16:56 PM Eps05
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** After Klaus' disappearance and a timeskip the massive wars across Europa have killed off over forty of the fifty ruling noble families. Seffie (a von Blitzenguard related to the Sturmvoraus family) insists that the best bet to end this is for her and Klaus' son Gil to marry, as leader of the two largest factions still involved. Gil hates that she has a point

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** After Klaus' disappearance and a timeskip the massive wars across Europa have killed off over forty of the fifty ruling noble families. Seffie (a von Blitzenguard related to the Sturmvoraus family) insists that the best bet to end this is for her and Klaus' son Gil to marry, as leader of the two largest factions still involved. Gil hates that she has a pointpoint.
** When Martellus meets Rerich, an old Jäger, they have a [[http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20140411 lenghtly conversation]] about what this trope entrails.
6th Jun '16 11:50:10 AM Morgenthaler
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* One of the post-[[Creator/IsaacAsimov Asimov]] ''{{Foundation}}'' authors claimed that aliens never showed up because robots [[ThreeLawsCompliant killed them to protect]] [[ExactWords humans]].

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* One of the post-[[Creator/IsaacAsimov Asimov]] ''{{Foundation}}'' ''Literature/{{Foundation}}'' authors claimed that aliens never showed up because robots [[ThreeLawsCompliant killed them to protect]] [[ExactWords humans]].
9th May '16 5:43:03 PM Euodiachloris
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* {{Doorstopper}} MedievalEuropeanFantasy and Realpolitik met one night, both got seriously drunk on History... and ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' is their DeconstructorFleet surprise baby. Yes, you get dragons, magic, kings, queens, [[TheFairFolk faeries]], taverns and bards: but, what you mainly get is a whole zoo full of political shenanigans (national, international and personal) played out quite cynically, pragmatically and violently. Consequences for the smallest actions turn into massive repercussions. Agendas and counter-agendas tighten around each other in the [[TitleDrop Game of Thrones.]] The best players of the game play with cleverness and pragmatism (which often works, barring the odd SpannerInTheWorks), some try to use it with a dash of cruelty (newsflash: it tends to work... until it very seriously doesn't), some try to mix in ''some'' idealism (iffy: often backfires when they get the mix wrong): but, ultimately, luck has the final say on how the game plays out thanks to the sheer number of factors involved.

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* {{Doorstopper}} MedievalEuropeanFantasy and Realpolitik met one night, both got seriously drunk on History... and ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' is their DeconstructorFleet DeconstructorFleet, surprise baby. Yes, you get dragons, magic, kings, queens, assassins, guards, [[TheFairFolk faeries]], "faeries"]], taverns and bards: but, what you mainly get is a whole zoo full of [[GambitPileUp political shenanigans shenanigans]] (national, international and personal) played out quite cynically, pragmatically and violently. violently. People work together when they hate each other, refuse to work with others they admire because of differing goals, the setting up or killing of ''anybody'' to get ahead... the whole enchilada. Consequences for the smallest actions turn into massive produce massive, unpredicted (not necessarily unpredictable) repercussions. Agendas and counter-agendas tighten around each other in the [[TitleDrop Game of Thrones.]] The best players of the game play with cleverness and pragmatism (which often works, works for quite some time, barring the odd SpannerInTheWorks), some try to use it with a dash of cruelty (newsflash: it tends to work... until it very seriously doesn't), some try to mix in ''some'' idealism (iffy: often backfires when they get the mix wrong): wrong, or other players misread the moves): but, ultimately, luck has the final say on how the game plays out thanks to the sheer number ''sheer number'' of factors involved.involved -- some quite [[OutsideContextVillain outside the known board layout]].
25th Apr '16 9:46:37 AM megarockman
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** Not coincidentally, Nixon's strong anticommunist reputation was a big reason his administration was able to initiate the move to establish ties with China in the first place - said record helped to shield accusations that he was coddling to DirtyCommunists (something a more moderate president wouldn't have had). This legitimacy-by-previous-emnity is what is meant when it is said that "only Nixon could go to China" (regardless of how much [[Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry the Vulcans]] may claim is theirs).

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** Not coincidentally, Nixon's strong anticommunist reputation was a big reason his administration was able to initiate the move to establish ties with China in the first place - said record helped to shield him from accusations that he was coddling to DirtyCommunists (something a more moderate president wouldn't have had). This legitimacy-by-previous-emnity is what is meant when it is said that "only Nixon could go to China" (regardless of how much [[Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry the Vulcans]] may claim is theirs).
25th Apr '16 9:45:03 AM megarockman
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** Not coincidentally, Nixon's strong anticommunist reputation was a big reason his administration was able to initiate the move to establish ties with China in the first place - said record helped to shield accusations that he was coddling to DirtyCommunists (something a more moderate president wouldn't have had).

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** Not coincidentally, Nixon's strong anticommunist reputation was a big reason his administration was able to initiate the move to establish ties with China in the first place - said record helped to shield accusations that he was coddling to DirtyCommunists (something a more moderate president wouldn't have had). This legitimacy-by-previous-emnity is what is meant when it is said that "only Nixon could go to China" (regardless of how much [[Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry the Vulcans]] may claim is theirs).
25th Apr '16 9:41:40 AM megarockman
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* UsefulNotes/RichardNixon made his political career being a stalwart anticommunist, yet he and Henry Kissinger (his Secretary of State) were the ones who established formal diplomatic ties with the People's Republic of China - both held mutual distrust and suspicion of the Soviet Union at the time.

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* UsefulNotes/RichardNixon made his political career being a stalwart anticommunist, yet he and Henry Kissinger (his Secretary of State) were the ones who established formal started the push for greater diplomatic ties with the People's Republic of China starting with "ping-pong diplomacy" in 1971 and kicked off on a government level with Nixon's visit to China in 1972 - both held mutual distrust and suspicion of the Soviet Union at the time.time. Formal diplomatic relations were established in 1979, when the US ended official diplomatic recognition of the Republic of China (i.e., Taiwan).


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** Not coincidentally, Nixon's strong anticommunist reputation was a big reason his administration was able to initiate the move to establish ties with China in the first place - said record helped to shield accusations that he was coddling to DirtyCommunists (something a more moderate president wouldn't have had).
29th Mar '16 6:12:00 AM leonardd
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** Let's not forget how the US protected the majority of war criminals from the infamous Unit 731 in the Japanese Imperial Army and giving them political and legal immunity from prosecution in exchange for their cooperation. The people in the Unit 731 are infamous for conducting horrific experimentation on unwilling ''live'' subjects (mostly Chinese and Koreans). By securing the cooperation from the war criminals, the US demanded that they shared the data obtained through those experiments with them.
26th Feb '16 12:38:26 AM Toadofsteel
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* And when we get to ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', it becomes the order of the day, with some very underhanded episodes such as "Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges" and "In the Pale Moonlight".
25th Feb '16 10:13:47 PM SoapyTroper
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** The innocent countries that were the target of such policies may have a rather specific view on that.
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