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18th Feb '18 5:16:37 AM DaibhidC
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** In ''Discworld/MonstrousRegiment'', the Ankh-Morporkian representatives have the advantage of the City Watch Airborne Section, namely gnome Constable Buggy Swires and his buzzard, which lets them intercept [[InstantMessangerPigeon messenger pigeons]]. Although not from the Borogravians, who disapprove of advanced communication technology, but from their own side's press.

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** In ''Discworld/MonstrousRegiment'', the Ankh-Morporkian representatives have the advantage of the City Watch Airborne Section, namely gnome Constable Buggy Swires and his buzzard, which lets them intercept [[InstantMessangerPigeon [[InstantMessengerPigeon messenger pigeons]]. Although not from the Borogravians, who disapprove of advanced communication technology, but from their own side's press.
18th Feb '18 5:12:35 AM DaibhidC
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* Literature/{{Discworld}}'s Vetinari not only does this regularly in everyday life, but he expects others to do the same to him, and prepares accordingly. After all,
-->What would be the point of ciphering messages that very clever enemies couldn't break? You'd end up not knowing what they thought you thought they were thinkingâ¦

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Vetinari not only does this regularly in everyday life, but he expects others to do the same to him, and prepares accordingly. After all,
-->What --->What would be the point of ciphering messages that very clever enemies couldn't break? You'd end up not knowing what they thought you thought they were thinkingâ¦thinking.
** In ''Discworld/MonstrousRegiment'', the Ankh-Morporkian representatives have the advantage of the City Watch Airborne Section, namely gnome Constable Buggy Swires and his buzzard, which lets them intercept [[InstantMessangerPigeon messenger pigeons]]. Although not from the Borogravians, who disapprove of advanced communication technology, but from their own side's press.
13th Nov '17 9:55:11 PM CosmicFerret
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* The ConnieWillis novel ''To Say Nothing of the Dog'' revolves around the attempt by two British timetravellers to prevent the possible exposure of the ULTRA program (see Real Life below) due to [[GodwinsLawOfTimeTravel accidental alteration of the events of the bombing of Coventry by timetravellers]].

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* The ConnieWillis Creator/ConnieWillis novel ''To Say Nothing of the Dog'' revolves around the attempt by two British timetravellers to prevent the possible exposure of the ULTRA program (see Real Life below) due to [[GodwinsLawOfTimeTravel accidental alteration of the events of the bombing of Coventry by timetravellers]].
9th Jul '17 8:41:20 AM nombretomado
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* The Germans managed to crack the British merchant navy's codes in WorldWarTwo. The Kriegsmarine used this informtaion cautiously, leading Allied intelligence to think German sonar was far more advanced than it really was right up to the end of the war.
* The Americans also cracked the Japanese ciphers in WorldWarTwo. In particular, the cracking of the Imperial Japanese Navy's JN-25b code by early 1942 allowed the US to get early warning that the IJN was planning a big operation around some place they only called "AF". On a hunch, the US [[BluffTheEavesdropper instructed the US Navy base at Midway Island to fake a water supply problem and broadcast it uncoded over radio]]; within 24 hours the Japanese had parroted the information via JN-25b saying that AF was short on water, confirming that Midway was the target and allowing the US Navy to plan a trap around them.

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* The Germans managed to crack the British merchant navy's codes in WorldWarTwo.UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. The Kriegsmarine used this informtaion cautiously, leading Allied intelligence to think German sonar was far more advanced than it really was right up to the end of the war.
* The Americans also cracked the Japanese ciphers in WorldWarTwo.World War II. In particular, the cracking of the Imperial Japanese Navy's JN-25b code by early 1942 allowed the US to get early warning that the IJN was planning a big operation around some place they only called "AF". On a hunch, the US [[BluffTheEavesdropper instructed the US Navy base at Midway Island to fake a water supply problem and broadcast it uncoded over radio]]; within 24 hours the Japanese had parroted the information via JN-25b saying that AF was short on water, confirming that Midway was the target and allowing the US Navy to plan a trap around them.
31st May '17 8:18:33 PM nombretomado
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* Something [[TheWheelOfTime Egwene and the other rebel Aes Sedai]] try to do while Dreaming with regards to Elaida's mail.

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* Something [[TheWheelOfTime [[Literature/TheWheelOfTime Egwene and the other rebel Aes Sedai]] try to do while Dreaming with regards to Elaida's mail.
28th May '17 10:37:34 AM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Roose reads the exchange of messages between Cersei and Littlefinger. A wise move, considering that those two might be the most incredibly untrustworthy people to have ever existed.
17th Oct '16 3:07:44 PM Morgenthaler
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* The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimmermann_Telegram Zimmermann Telegram]] was a diplomatic note that was sent by the German Empire to Mexico, looking at seeing whether Mexico would be interested in declaring war on the United States should the increasingly pro-Triple-Entente US enter World War I. The Germans promised financial and military aid to help [[MexicoCalledTheyWantTexasBack Mexico reclaim the "lost territories" of Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas]]. This telegram was intercepted by the British as it was passing through the US (direct communication lines from Germany to the Western Hemisphere were cut by the British, so the only way the Germans could communicate with their embassies in the Americas was via Canada and the US) and turned over to the Americans (Britain had to find other pieces of evidence so as to avoid admitting it was reading the US's diplomatic mail), thus further enraging American public opinion and leading to the US's entry into WW1 on the side of the Entente. (Mexico, by the way, declined the offer.)

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* The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimmermann_Telegram Zimmermann Telegram]] was a diplomatic note that was sent by the German Empire to Mexico, looking at seeing whether Mexico would be interested in declaring war on the United States should the increasingly pro-Triple-Entente US enter World War I. The Germans promised financial and military aid to help [[MexicoCalledTheyWantTexasBack Mexico reclaim the "lost territories" of Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas]]. This telegram was intercepted by the British as it was passing through the US (direct communication lines from Germany to the Western Hemisphere were cut by the British, so the only way the Germans could communicate with their embassies in the Americas was via Canada and the US) and turned over to the Americans (Britain had to find other pieces of evidence so as to avoid admitting it was reading the US's diplomatic mail), thus further enraging American public opinion and leading to the US's entry into WW1 UsefulNotes/WW1 on the side of the Entente. (Mexico, by the way, declined the offer.)
20th Sep '16 8:35:08 AM Morgenthaler
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* Where British, Germans and Americans cracked the enemy ciphers in WorldWarII, the Italians choose an easier way: in September 1941 (when the US were still neutrals), Italian spies broke in the US embassy in Rome and stole the ciphers. From then on, the Italians were able to read the US diplomatic communications without any problem, something that, thanks to the American consul at Alexandria having access to the British war plans from December 1941 and reporting them to Washington, allowed the Axis forces in Africa to know what the British were doing. While the British caught on it fairly quickly, the Americans didn't believe it until June 1942, when the Germans spoke about it on the radio, allowing ULTRA to prove it and force the US to change codes (and recall that talkative consul).

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* Where British, Germans and Americans cracked the enemy ciphers in WorldWarII, UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, the Italians choose an easier way: in September 1941 (when the US were still neutrals), Italian spies broke in the US embassy in Rome and stole the ciphers. From then on, the Italians were able to read the US diplomatic communications without any problem, something that, thanks to the American consul at Alexandria having access to the British war plans from December 1941 and reporting them to Washington, allowed the Axis forces in Africa to know what the British were doing. While the British caught on it fairly quickly, the Americans didn't believe it until June 1942, when the Germans spoke about it on the radio, allowing ULTRA to prove it and force the US to change codes (and recall that talkative consul).



** OlderThanTheyThink: in the [[WorldWarI previous war]], Italian communications were handled in [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sardinian_language Sardinian Language]] (''Sardu''): regarded by many scholars to be the living language closest to Classical Latin, it is not an Italian dialect nor by any means related to Italian. In Italy, it is notoriously known for its difficulty to be actually understood by anyone not speaking it (that is, Italians and many Sardinians themselves, being and endangered language), unless spoken ''very'' slowly. And to be sure it couldn't be understood, the code-talkers weren't Italians speaking the literary version of Sardinian (that ''may'' have been understood), but actual Sardinians speaking their native dialects (which, even though they are all pretty much mutually intelligible, vary greatly the pronunciation of words).

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** OlderThanTheyThink: in the [[WorldWarI [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI previous war]], Italian communications were handled in [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sardinian_language Sardinian Language]] (''Sardu''): regarded by many scholars to be the living language closest to Classical Latin, it is not an Italian dialect nor by any means related to Italian. In Italy, it is notoriously known for its difficulty to be actually understood by anyone not speaking it (that is, Italians and many Sardinians themselves, being and endangered language), unless spoken ''very'' slowly. And to be sure it couldn't be understood, the code-talkers weren't Italians speaking the literary version of Sardinian (that ''may'' have been understood), but actual Sardinians speaking their native dialects (which, even though they are all pretty much mutually intelligible, vary greatly the pronunciation of words).
19th Jun '16 2:39:45 PM nombretomado
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* In ''TheThrawnTrilogy'', eventually the New Republic did figure out that Thrawn was aware of all the plans they made in the Imperial Palace on Coruscant. They spent a lot of effort going through the palace trying to find the listening devices, to no avail. Turns out Delta Source was right in front of them the whole time.
* In DanBrown's ''Literature/DigitalFortress'', the NSA has a supercomputer capable cracking the digital encyrption keys used in e-mails. The titular program is touted as being unbreakable, prompting the NSA to [[spoiler:try and steal the program and secretly install a backdoor into the program, giving them unlimited access to enemy e-mail communications. However, things don't go as planned.]]

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* In ''TheThrawnTrilogy'', ''Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy'', eventually the New Republic did figure out that Thrawn was aware of all the plans they made in the Imperial Palace on Coruscant. They spent a lot of effort going through the palace trying to find the listening devices, to no avail. Turns out Delta Source was right in front of them the whole time.
* In DanBrown's Creator/DanBrown's ''Literature/DigitalFortress'', the NSA has a supercomputer capable cracking the digital encyrption encryption keys used in e-mails. The titular program is touted as being unbreakable, prompting the NSA to [[spoiler:try and steal the program and secretly install a backdoor into the program, giving them unlimited access to enemy e-mail communications. However, things don't go as planned.]]
23rd Oct '15 10:50:27 AM megarockman
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* The Americans also cracked the Japanese ciphers in WorldWarTwo.

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* The Americans also cracked the Japanese ciphers in WorldWarTwo. In particular, the cracking of the Imperial Japanese Navy's JN-25b code by early 1942 allowed the US to get early warning that the IJN was planning a big operation around some place they only called "AF". On a hunch, the US [[BluffTheEavesdropper instructed the US Navy base at Midway Island to fake a water supply problem and broadcast it uncoded over radio]]; within 24 hours the Japanese had parroted the information via JN-25b saying that AF was short on water, confirming that Midway was the target and allowing the US Navy to plan a trap around them.
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