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28th Mar '17 2:54:51 PM Yalsaris63
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* The Striker appears in ''Film/HardTarget'' as a weapon used by one of the Mooks belonging to the BigBad's hunting squad during the middle part of the movie. For some reason, [[GunsDoNotWorkThatWay it is unrealistically depicted as a grenade launcher]] rather than a semi-automatic shotgun as the film makers apparently didn't do enough research of the gun at the time; they thought that the Striker looked like a grenade launcher because of the drum magazine and its menacingly unorthodox appearance.

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* The Striker appears in ''Film/HardTarget'' as a weapon used by one of the Mooks belonging to the BigBad's hunting squad during the middle part of the movie. For some reason, [[GunsDoNotWorkThatWay it is unrealistically depicted as a grenade launcher]] rather than a semi-automatic shotgun as the film makers apparently didn't do enough research of the gun at the time; [[MisidentifiedWeapons they thought that the Striker looked like a grenade launcher because of the drum magazine and its menacingly unorthodox appearance.appearance]].
28th Mar '17 2:53:10 PM Yalsaris63
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* The Striker appears in ''Film/HardTarget'' as a weapon used by one of the Mooks belonging to the BigBad's hunting squad during the middle part of the movie. For some reason, [[GunsDoNotWorkThatWay it is unrealistically depicted as a grenade launcher]] rather than a semi-automatic shotgun as the film makers apparently didn't do enough research of the gun at the time; they thought that the Striker looked like a grenade launcher because of the drum magazine and its menacingly unorthodox appearance.
27th Mar '17 10:12:14 PM HardcoreHenry
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* Added in ''VideoGame/PAYDAY2'' as [[AKA47 "Tatonka"]].

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* Added in ''VideoGame/PAYDAY2'' as [[AKA47 "Tatonka"]].
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* Appear as [[AKA47 "AK17"]] in ''VideoGame/PAYDAY2''.

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* Appear as [[AKA47 "AK17"]] AK17]] in ''VideoGame/PAYDAY2''.
27th Mar '17 9:52:23 PM HardcoreHenry
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* Added in ''VideoGame/PAYDAY 2'' as [[AKA47 "Tatonka"]].

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* Added in ''VideoGame/PAYDAY 2'' ''VideoGame/PAYDAY2'' as [[AKA47 "Tatonka"]].



* Appear as [[AKA47 "AK17"]] in ''VideoGame/PAYDAY 2''.

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* Appear as [[AKA47 "AK17"]] in ''VideoGame/PAYDAY 2''.
''VideoGame/PAYDAY2''.
27th Mar '17 9:48:04 PM HardcoreHenry
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27th Mar '17 9:47:49 PM HardcoreHenry
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* Added in ''VideoGame/PAYDAY 2'' as [[AKA47 "Tatonka"]].




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* Appear as [[AKA47 "AK17"]] in ''VideoGame/PAYDAY 2''.
22nd Mar '17 4:39:04 PM garthvader
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The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_G11 Heckler & Koch G11]] was an experimental West German rifle most notable for using caseless ammunition.[[note]]While the 4.73x33mm round ''looks'' like it has some sort of polymer case, the boxy brown piece that the bullet is contained in is actually the ''propellant''.[[/note]] Less well known is that H&K intended to produce a "family" of weapons around the G11, with at least one prototype of the [=LMG11=] light machine gun having been made (though it is entirely unclear how it actually functioned), while a machine pistol/PDW never even made it past having blueprints drawn, though it was the forerunner to the more successful [=MP7=]. 256 prototypes were made and the weapon was actually briefly adopted by the Bundeswegr, but the order for 300,000 rifles in the period from 1990-2002 was frozen, the rifle struck from the procurement list in 1992 and the entire program cancelled in 1993 due to the impossibility of adapting the [=G11=] to fire standardized NATO ammunition. The main culprit for this was [[TheGreatPoliticsMessUp the end of the Cold War]]: reunifying with East Germany proved quite expensive given the dismal state of the East German economy, and the fall of the Soviet Union meant military spending was suddenly less important. Ultimately, the new unified German military adopted a much more "conventional" rifle, the [=G36=]. However, its exotic and futuristic shape makes it a fairly popular addition to media, especially in near-future settings.

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The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_G11 Heckler & Koch G11]] was an experimental West German rifle most notable for using caseless ammunition.[[note]]While the 4.73x33mm round ''looks'' like it has some sort of polymer case, the boxy brown piece that the bullet is contained in is actually the ''propellant''.[[/note]] Less well known is that H&K intended to produce a "family" of weapons around the G11, with at least one prototype of the [=LMG11=] light machine gun having been made (though it is entirely unclear how it actually functioned), while a machine pistol/PDW never even made it past having blueprints drawn, though it was the forerunner to the more successful [=MP7=]. 256 prototypes were made and the weapon was actually briefly adopted by the Bundeswegr, Bundeswehr, but the order for 300,000 rifles in the period from 1990-2002 was frozen, the rifle struck from the procurement list in 1992 and the entire program cancelled in 1993 due to the impossibility of adapting the [=G11=] to fire standardized NATO ammunition. The main culprit for this was [[TheGreatPoliticsMessUp the end of the Cold War]]: reunifying with East Germany proved quite expensive given the dismal state of the East German economy, and the fall of the Soviet Union meant military spending was suddenly less important. Ultimately, the new unified German military adopted a much more "conventional" rifle, the [=G36=]. However, its exotic and futuristic shape makes it a fairly popular addition to media, especially in near-future settings.
22nd Mar '17 4:34:29 PM garthvader
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->''This extremely light assault rifle is relatively quiet and has little recoil due to its lack of extractors or spent casings.''

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->''This extremely light assault rifle is relatively quiet and has little recoil [[GunsDoNotWorkThatWay due to its lack of extractors or spent casings.casings]].''
22nd Mar '17 4:33:57 PM garthvader
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The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_G11 Heckler & Koch G11]] was an experimental West German rifle most notable for using caseless ammunition.[[note]]While the 4.73x33mm round ''looks'' like it has some sort of polymer case, the boxy brown piece that the bullet is contained in is actually the ''propellant''.[[/note]] Less well known is that H&K intended to produce a "family" of weapons around the G11, with at least one prototype of the [=LMG11=] light machine gun having been made, while a machine pistol/PDW never even made it past having blueprints drawn. Its cost (you'd think HK weapons have a gold-lined bore and diamond furniture for their price tag, and the G-11 [[UpToEleven was absurdly expensive]] even by ''their'' standards), [[AwesomeButImpractical complexity]], and [[TheGreatPoliticsMessUp the end of the Cold War]] (reunifying with East Germany proved quite expensive given the dismal state of the East German economy, and the fall of the Soviet Union meant military spending was suddenly less important) meant that it only had a very limited production run of around 1,000 units before being canceled while still in the prototype stage. However, its exotic and futuristic shape makes it a fairly popular addition to media, especially in near-future settings.

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The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_G11 Heckler & Koch G11]] was an experimental West German rifle most notable for using caseless ammunition.[[note]]While the 4.73x33mm round ''looks'' like it has some sort of polymer case, the boxy brown piece that the bullet is contained in is actually the ''propellant''.[[/note]] Less well known is that H&K intended to produce a "family" of weapons around the G11, with at least one prototype of the [=LMG11=] light machine gun having been made, made (though it is entirely unclear how it actually functioned), while a machine pistol/PDW never even made it past having blueprints drawn. Its cost (you'd think HK weapons have a gold-lined bore and diamond furniture for their price tag, drawn, though it was the forerunner to the more successful [=MP7=]. 256 prototypes were made and the G-11 [[UpToEleven weapon was absurdly expensive]] even actually briefly adopted by ''their'' standards), [[AwesomeButImpractical complexity]], the Bundeswegr, but the order for 300,000 rifles in the period from 1990-2002 was frozen, the rifle struck from the procurement list in 1992 and the entire program cancelled in 1993 due to the impossibility of adapting the [=G11=] to fire standardized NATO ammunition. The main culprit for this was [[TheGreatPoliticsMessUp the end of the Cold War]] (reunifying War]]: reunifying with East Germany proved quite expensive given the dismal state of the East German economy, and the fall of the Soviet Union meant military spending was suddenly less important) meant that it only had a very limited production run of around 1,000 units before being canceled while still in important. Ultimately, the prototype stage.new unified German military adopted a much more "conventional" rifle, the [=G36=]. However, its exotic and futuristic shape makes it a fairly popular addition to media, especially in near-future settings.



Also, burnt propellant leaves residue inside the gun. In a conventional weapon, the cartridge case catches most of it and keeps the chamber clean and functional, and, as with the heat of firing, takes it away when the spent case is ejected. No caseless weapon has ever addressed the problem of propellant residue fouling the gun's innards to hell and gone and producing frequent stoppages. H&K was working on the cook-off issue via special (expensive) propellant that needs a significantly higher temperature to ignite, but it's unclear how far they'd gotten when the G11 project was cancelled. Had development continued, it's possible that electrical ignition would've been the ultimate solution as this would have allowed propellant with an ignition temperature so high that the chamber would never plausibly get that hot.[[note]]The newest Russian howitzer uses the ultra-high temperature propellant with the microwave ignition specifically to avoid the cook-off problem at the high ROF -- and this problem is obviously even more severe in the artillery with its insane propellant loads.[[/note]] However, this would not have addressed the other problems of weapon {{overheating}} and/or fouling up.

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Also, burnt propellant leaves residue inside the gun. In a conventional weapon, the cartridge case catches most of it and keeps the chamber clean and functional, and, as with the heat of firing, takes it away when the spent case is ejected. No caseless weapon has ever addressed the problem of propellant residue fouling the gun's innards to hell and gone and producing frequent stoppages. H&K was working on claimed to have solved the cook-off issue via special (expensive) propellant that needs a significantly higher temperature to ignite, but it's unclear how far they'd gotten when what the G11 project was cancelled. Had development continued, it's possible that electrical ignition would've been the ultimate solution as this would have allowed propellant with an ignition temperature so high that the chamber would never plausibly get that hot.[[note]]The newest Russian howitzer uses the ultra-high temperature propellant with the microwave ignition specifically to avoid the cook-off problem at the high ROF -- and this problem is obviously even more severe in the artillery with its insane propellant loads.[[/note]] However, this would not have addressed the other problems of weapon {{overheating}} and/or fouling up.
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21st Mar '17 8:41:08 PM Kadorhal
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* Gets to have it's fifteen minutes of fame in one ''ComicBook/ThePunisherMAX'' issue. Where it shows up in the hands of Frank Castle as he uses it to dispatch some Russian thugs.

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* Gets to have it's its fifteen minutes of fame in one ''ComicBook/ThePunisherMAX'' issue. Where issue, where it shows up in the hands of Frank Castle as he uses it to dispatch some Russian thugs.
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