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* ''Film/XMenApocalypse''. Erik Lehnsherr does this after [[spoiler:his family is accidentally killed by the Polish police]]. Unfortunately, God answers in the form of Apocalypse.
--> '''Erik:''' IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT FROM ME? IS THIS WHO I AM?!
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* The manga ''InnocentBird'' deals with a demon gone good and a heaven completely mad. Not that the evil forces are any better -- it's quite a lose-lose situation. Later, the angel protagonist rages against the heavens.

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* The manga ''InnocentBird'' ''Manga/InnocentBird'' deals with a demon gone good and a heaven completely mad. Not that the evil forces are any better -- it's quite a lose-lose situation. Later, the angel protagonist rages against the heavens.



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* ''Series/{{Jeremiah}}''

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* ''Series/{{Jeremiah}}''''Series/{{Jeremiah}}'':



--> '''Robert''': Was this your plan? Huh? You sat up there, and you [[TheChewToy put]] [[BasementDweller me]] [[TheUnfavorite through]] ''everything,'' and then let me end up like ''this?'' Well, let me tell you something, mister...''You'' are ''not funny!''
--> ''(Debra and Ray look at each other)''
--> '''Debra''': He ''does'' screw with him a lot.

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--> '''Robert''': -->'''Robert:''' Was this your plan? Huh? You sat up there, and you [[TheChewToy put]] [[BasementDweller me]] [[TheUnfavorite through]] ''everything,'' and then let me end up like ''this?'' Well, let me tell you something, mister...''You'' are ''not funny!''
--> ''(Debra
funny!''\\
(''Debra
and Ray look at each other)''
--> '''Debra''':
other'')\\
'''Debra:'''
He ''does'' screw with him a lot.



--->What is the meaning of this?\\

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--->What -->''What is the meaning of this?\\



And the stars look down

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And the stars look downdown''



* The ''Champions of Kamigawa'' block of ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' was set in a world based on Shinto where the mortal and spirit worlds were at war. Over the course of the block's three sets, it was revealed that the war had been ignited when the Daimyo Konda had stolen a powerful artifact from the most powerful of the Kami that would grant him immortality. The catch was that this "artifact" was said Kami's child. It even gets represented on the card "That Which Was Taken."

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* ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'':
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The ''Champions of Kamigawa'' block of ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' was set in a world based on Shinto where the mortal and spirit worlds were at war. Over the course of the block's three sets, it was revealed that the war had been ignited when the Daimyo Konda had stolen a powerful artifact from the most powerful of the Kami that would grant him immortality. The catch was that this "artifact" was said Kami's child. It even gets represented on the card "That Which Was Taken."



--->'''Ajani''': [[GodsNeedPrayerBadly A fire, deprived of kindling, must go out.]]

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--->'''Ajani''': --->'''Ajani:''' [[GodsNeedPrayerBadly A fire, deprived of kindling, must go out.]]



* ''Franchise/FinalFantasy''

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* ''Franchise/FinalFantasy''''Franchise/FinalFantasy'':



* The cross-platform ''ShinMegamiTensei'' videogame series; the first two fit the concept best, but all of them include various gods as enemies.
** In one of the endings for ''ShinMegamiTensei: Nocturne'', [[spoiler:the ending cuts off with the main character marching at the head of the legions of chaos on God.]] Pretty sure that fits.
** No JRPG has played this trope as bluntly as ''ShinMegamiTenseiII''. [[spoiler:God is the final boss and when you kill him he tells the player that they have committed the ultimate sin. To be fair, [[GodIsEvil he is an evil tyrant]] in the game who treats humanity as his plaything.]] [[spoiler:If you go the Law path, ''Satan'' himself allies with you to judge God. Yes, ''that'' {{Satan}}.]]
*** Note: in the ShinMegamiTensei series, [[spoiler: Satan and Lucifer are two different beings. Lucifer is the Devil and Satan the Archangel of Judgment. ''Shin Megami Tensei'' is the trope namer for LouisCypher after all.]]

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* The cross-platform ''ShinMegamiTensei'' ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' videogame series; the first two fit the concept best, but all of them include various gods as enemies.
** In one of the endings for ''ShinMegamiTensei: Nocturne'', ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIIINocturne'', [[spoiler:the ending cuts off with the main character marching at the head of the legions of chaos on God.]] Pretty sure that fits.
** No JRPG has played this trope as bluntly as ''ShinMegamiTenseiII''.''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII''. [[spoiler:God is the final boss and when you kill him he tells the player that they have committed the ultimate sin. To be fair, [[GodIsEvil he is an evil tyrant]] in the game who treats humanity as his plaything.]] [[spoiler:If you go the Law path, ''Satan'' himself allies with you to judge God. Yes, ''that'' {{Satan}}.]]
*** ** Note: in the ShinMegamiTensei ''Shin Megami Tensei'' series, [[spoiler: Satan and Lucifer are two different beings. Lucifer is the Devil and Satan the Archangel of Judgment. ''Shin Megami Tensei'' is the trope namer for LouisCypher after all.]]



* ''TheSimpsonsGame''. [[spoiler: After failing to save Springfield by [[RageAgainstTheAuthor beating up Matt Groening]], the Simpsons to take their case to God, whom they eventually defeat in a Dance Dance Revolution-ish minigame.]]

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* ''TheSimpsonsGame''.''VideoGame/TheSimpsonsGame''. [[spoiler: After failing to save Springfield by [[RageAgainstTheAuthor beating up Matt Groening]], the Simpsons to take their case to God, whom they eventually defeat in a Dance Dance Revolution-ish minigame.]]



* Susano, in ''VideoGame/{{Okami}}'', yells at the gods to stop tormenting him for their amusement and ''dog''ging his footsteps -- while benevolent goddess Amaterasu, who has been following and assisting him in the form of a wolf, is there to hear it. As a HeroicMime she says nothing but seems amused.

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* Susano, in ''VideoGame/{{Okami}}'', ''VideoGame/{{Okami}}'':
** Susano
yells at the gods to stop tormenting him for their amusement and ''dog''ging his footsteps -- while benevolent goddess Amaterasu, who has been following and assisting him in the form of a wolf, is there to hear it. As a HeroicMime she says nothing but seems amused.



* The Charr race in ''GuildWars2'' has long since tired of playing the ButtMonkey to the humans and their gods, and then manipulated and enslaved by other beings of divine and near-divine power. The Charr overthrew their religious caste, the Flame Legion, and has become actively hostile to any suggestion of religion, to the point of flatly stating that [[HaveYouSeenMyGod if the human gods were still around]], the Charr would seek to kill them.

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* The Charr race in ''GuildWars2'' ''VideoGame/GuildWars2'' has long since tired of playing the ButtMonkey to the humans and their gods, and then manipulated and enslaved by other beings of divine and near-divine power. The Charr overthrew their religious caste, the Flame Legion, and has become actively hostile to any suggestion of religion, to the point of flatly stating that [[HaveYouSeenMyGod if the human gods were still around]], the Charr would seek to kill them.



* ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'': Redcloan's {{Plan}} involves this. [[spoiler: The Dark One learned the entire goblin species was created as mere cannon fodder and designated Always Evil so clerics can kill them with no problems. As the Dark One became a god in the first place due to the leaders of other species assassinating him back when he was mortal, it's fairly reasonable logic that the only way the Good deities will take anything the Goblins say as valid is to give them a wake-up call.]]

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* ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'': Redcloan's Redcloak's {{Plan}} involves this. [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The Dark One learned the entire goblin species was created as mere cannon fodder and designated Always Evil so clerics can kill them with no problems. As the Dark One became a god in the first place due to the leaders of other species assassinating him back when he was mortal, it's fairly reasonable logic that the only way the Good deities will take anything the Goblins say as valid is to give them a wake-up call.]]



** In the background a fundamental tenet of the Ssaelit faith is that the four Gefendur gods who made the world were cruel beings who afflicted humanity with death and a world filled with suffering for their own amusement, and that after being slain Ssael gathered an army of the unhappy dead, made war upon the gods, and cast them down to become God himself. A traditional phrase among the Ssaelit seems to be "Death is the gods' crime."
*** As a bonus, this neatly solves the Problem of Evil that normally comes up when you have a single benevolent god. Why is there evil in a created world? Because Ssael didn't make the world, he took it from the callous old gods who did. Why is suffering allowed to exist? Because suffering is a fundamental property of the universe, and Ssael can't get rid of it without remaking the world entirely. Not a good idea when people still live in it.

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** In the background a fundamental tenet of the Ssaelit faith is that the four Gefendur gods who made the world were cruel beings who afflicted humanity with death and a world filled with suffering for their own amusement, and that after being slain Ssael gathered an army of the unhappy dead, made war upon the gods, and cast them down to become God himself. A traditional phrase among the Ssaelit seems to be "Death is the gods' crime."
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" As a bonus, this neatly solves the Problem of Evil that normally comes up when you have a single benevolent god. Why is there evil in a created world? Because Ssael didn't make the world, he took it from the callous old gods who did. Why is suffering allowed to exist? Because suffering is a fundamental property of the universe, and Ssael can't get rid of it without remaking the world entirely. Not a good idea when people still live in it.



* ''Webcomic/{{Fatebound}}'' has this as a recurring and central plot, with Herot seeking to gain control of both reality and the gods themselves.

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* ''Webcomic/{{Fatebound}}'' ''Webcomic/{{Fatebound}}'':
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has this as a recurring and central plot, with Herot seeking to gain control of both reality and the gods themselves.



-->God was turned away by Iron Chariots once before. Are you people all so pathetic as to forget the myths of your ancestors? When the Heroes at Troy wounded the Gods and drove them from the field? When the mortal hand of Rama struck down the demon Ravana after invading Sri Lanka on his bridge of hurled stone? Satan is the Prince of Hell; God may have put him there but he still has princely power and he controls who is to be tortured and who isn't. This is his moment to break free from the cycle-curse. If we can turn away the strength of God with Iron, then let us make common cause with the Prince of Hell and turn on heaven with full fury. Angels can make war; we'll kill them, and we'll drive God from his throne at point of sword, and exhort the moral of the spirits in heaven to rise against the injustice of a God turned against his own word.
:: This little exchange sums up that thread quite nicely:

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-->God -->''God was turned away by Iron Chariots once before. Are you people all so pathetic as to forget the myths of your ancestors? When the Heroes at Troy wounded the Gods and drove them from the field? When the mortal hand of Rama struck down the demon Ravana after invading Sri Lanka on his bridge of hurled stone? Satan is the Prince of Hell; God may have put him there but he still has princely power and he controls who is to be tortured and who isn't. This is his moment to break free from the cycle-curse. If we can turn away the strength of God with Iron, then let us make common cause with the Prince of Hell and turn on heaven with full fury. Angels can make war; we'll kill them, and we'll drive God from his throne at point of sword, and exhort the moral of the spirits in heaven to rise against the injustice of a God turned against his own word.
word.''
:: This little exchange sums up that thread quite nicely:nicely...
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** ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVFinal'' is entirely built around this trope with everyone (with the sole exception of Merkabah) in this massive conflict want a piece of him. [[spoiler:It ultimately culminates in a final battle against YHVH, and depending on the path, to either create a future where humans and demons can bury the hatchet and create a peaceful future, or to become the new creator in a world free of His influence.]]

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** ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVFinal'' ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'' is entirely built around this trope with everyone (with the sole exception of Merkabah) in this massive conflict want a piece of him. [[spoiler:It ultimately culminates in a final battle against YHVH, and depending on the path, to either create a future where humans and demons can bury the hatchet and create a peaceful future, or to become the new creator in a world free of His influence.]]
16th Apr '16 7:14:37 PM PaulA
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* In ''Literature/TheBalancedSword'', the heroine's discovery of the truth about her parents' death results in her spending several minutes ranting at the sky, accusing her god of abandoning Its faithful and demanding an explanation. She is more than a little shocked when It actually gives her an answer.
15th Apr '16 9:17:06 AM GlitteringFlowers
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* ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn]]'' ends in a fight against a goddess bent on passing judgement of destruction on the entire world.

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* FireEmblem doesn't lack of this trope:
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''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn]]'' ends in a fight against a goddess bent on passing judgement of destruction on the entire world.world.
** In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening's'' ''The Future Past'' DLC map, [[spoiler: if Libra is Noire's father, he approaches the Noire from FP's AlternateUniverse and tells her to praise Naga for this chance to meet. It turns out this Noire is [[BrokenBird deeply broken and embittered about the Gods]] and she replies [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF06TFF1piw with a heartbreaking speech about it]].]]
-->[[spoiler: Alternate!Noire]]: "It's always gods, gods, Gods with you! Why? The Gods don't care about you! You devoted your life to them, [[spoiler: and they let you die]]! Give thanks? I curse them every day! If they're so benevolent, why would they [[spoiler: let this world get so bad]]? And why would they [[spoiler: [[DisappearedDad take you away]] from us]]? You don't know what it was for [[spoiler: [[TroubledAbuser Mo]][[AbusiveParents ther]] and I]] having to fend for ourselves! And you have no idea what it was like for me when [[spoiler: your precious gods [[MissingMom took her away]]]] too!"
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* A classic moment in ''Series/FawltyTowers'' has an overwrought Basil Fawlty screaming "Thank you, God! Thank you so BLOODY much!" during a fire drill gone wrong. He punctuates this by swinging his fists at the ceiling like a lunatic.
7th Apr '16 11:07:47 AM ZimFan89
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* Series/{{Lucifer|2016}} doesn't do this as much as you'd expect, aside from the usual snide comments about God. However, after [[spoiler: the death of Father Frank, who he'd befriended against all odds]], he loses it, standing on his balcony and screaming at the heavens, telling Him that it's not fair, and that His design is unfair and pointless.
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* ''Fanfic/TheHillOfSwords'': Shirou indulges in this:
-->'''Shirou''': I've decided that I shall slaughter the innocent. I shall murder all who stand in my way, sparing none, until [[TheDreaded my name is synonymous with fear itself]], thus cementing my status as an AntiHero. Then, once my reign of terror is finally ended, I shall wait patiently at the Throne of Heroes for however how long it takes until one of the infinite realities that exist that still performs the ritual of the Holy Grail War summons me forth. Then, I shall resume killing all around me until my bloodstained hands hold the Holy Grail itself. Once I have the all-powerful artifact, I shall use it to force the Root of the World, the wellspring of all creation, to assume a human male form in my presence. And then I'm going to [[GroinAttack kick it in the balls so hard]] that [[ShareTheMalePain all of reality will simultaneously feel it.]]
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* Partly inspiring ''{{Spawn}}'', ''Comicbook/{{Ghost Rider}}s'' suffer from the same problem mentioned above. Not as frequently, but angels tend to be immune to the penance stare. The ''Ghost Rider'' mini "Heaven's On Fire" has the Ghost Rider brothers (Johnny and Danny) trying to get into heaven to stop a rogue angel.

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* Partly inspiring ''{{Spawn}}'', ''ComicBook/{{Spawn}}'', ''Comicbook/{{Ghost Rider}}s'' suffer from the same problem mentioned above. Not as frequently, but angels tend to be immune to the penance stare. The ''Ghost Rider'' mini "Heaven's On Fire" has the Ghost Rider brothers (Johnny and Danny) trying to get into heaven to stop a rogue angel.



* {{The Punisher}}, particularly in stories written by Garth Ennis, displays this every once in awhile. Frank: "There are times I'd like to get my hands on God."

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* {{The ComicBook/{{The Punisher}}, particularly in stories written by Garth Ennis, displays this every once in awhile. Frank: "There are times I'd like to get my hands on God."



** The plan was to deprive them of prayer and worhsip which does actually fuel their powers... unfortunately for the mortals, they still are capable of overpowering the non-believers.

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** The plan was to deprive them of prayer and worhsip worship which does actually fuel their powers... unfortunately for the mortals, they still are capable of overpowering the non-believers.
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