History Main / RacistGrandma

13th Nov '17 5:26:24 AM KanekiKun
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* The subreddit [[https://www.reddit.com/r/forwardsfromgrandma/ /r/ForwardsFromGrandma]] is full of ultraconservative or openly racist memes that "grandma" supposedly forwarded on Facebook.
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13th Nov '17 3:43:52 AM Alvin
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* In ''WesternAnimation/GeneratorRex'', there was an old lady who despises Evo's and believes that Evo's and humans don't mix. So she teams up with another Evo to set and example of it all by blowing up a cave full of humans and Evo's.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/GeneratorRex'', there was an old lady who despises Evo's and believes that Evo's and humans don't mix. So she teams up with another Evo to set and an example of it all by blowing up a cave full of humans and Evo's.
9th Oct '17 11:43:59 PM SingingRain
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* The subreddit [[https://www.reddit.com/r/forwardsfromgrandma/ /r/ForwardsFromGrandma]] is full of ultraconservative or openly racist memes that "grandma" supposedly forwarded on Facebook.
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29th Sep '17 1:12:03 PM ChaoticNovelist
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Usually the humor derives from the irony of an elderly character using language one would normally associate with a fiery young skinhead. However, it can also be TruthInTelevision. Although obviously not all old people are bigots, old people are more likely to subscribe to pre-civil rights cultural beliefs and are more likely to say [[http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/labnotes/archive/2007/09/25/why-grandpa-talks-like-chris-rock-in-nc-17-mode.aspx inappropriate thoughts out loud]]. However, this tends to be counterbalanced by the fact that they were raised in a "more polite" era than ours. (''More'' polite, not "polite.") Take [[Series/AllInTheFamily Archie Bunker]], for instance, who took care to substitute "spade" for "nigger," "hebe" for "kike," etc. It can also be [[MistakenForRacist accidental]] if the grandma is using what [[FairForItsDay was an acceptable term]] [[HaveAGayOldTime when she grew up]], without being aware that it is [[SocietyMarchesOn now considered derogatory]], (e.g., in the article linked earlier in this paragraph, the author recounts her negative feelings when an elderly man referred to someone as "colored" -- but this was in fact the politest term for black people when the man was likely raised, and the chosen way for most black people to describe themselves back then, like the NAACP.) Furthermore, elderly people whose views about minorities really did change with the times may suddenly begin spouting offensive beliefs from their youths if they're suffering from senile dementia.

While it's tempting to think that this will soon become a DeadHorseTrope, now that the youngest people who came of age before the mid-1960s are now in their seventies and the average life span for most Westerners is about 80, there is evidence that quite a few people actually ''become'' bigoted with age. Bitterness about growing old can cause certain people to develop a hostile attitude against most things or even everything in the modern world -- ''[[FormerTeenRebel even of things that their generation helped to bring about in the first place]]''. For example, a recent poll (albeit a dubious one, since it took into account a ''very'' small sampling of the U.S. population) suggested that a surprisingly large number of ''Baby Boomers'' (now in their fifties at the youngest) are now uncomfortable with interracial marriage.

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Usually the humor derives from the irony of an elderly character using language one would normally associate with a fiery young skinhead. However, it can also be TruthInTelevision.TruthInTelevision for 21st century demographics. Although obviously not all old people are bigots, old people are more likely to subscribe to pre-civil rights cultural beliefs and are more likely to say [[http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/labnotes/archive/2007/09/25/why-grandpa-talks-like-chris-rock-in-nc-17-mode.aspx inappropriate thoughts out loud]]. However, this tends to be counterbalanced by the fact that they were raised in a "more polite" era than ours. (''More'' polite, not "polite.") Take [[Series/AllInTheFamily Archie Bunker]], for instance, who took care to substitute "spade" for "nigger," "hebe" for "kike," etc. It can also be [[MistakenForRacist accidental]] if the grandma is using what [[FairForItsDay was an acceptable term]] [[HaveAGayOldTime when she grew up]], without being aware that it is [[SocietyMarchesOn now considered derogatory]], (e.g., in the article linked earlier in this paragraph, the author recounts her negative feelings when an elderly man referred to someone as "colored" -- but this was in fact the politest term for black people when the man was likely raised, and the chosen way for most black people to describe themselves back then, like the NAACP.) Furthermore, elderly people whose views about minorities really did change with the times may suddenly begin spouting offensive beliefs from their youths if they're suffering from senile dementia.

While it's tempting to think that this will soon become a DeadHorseTrope, now that the youngest people who came of age before the mid-1960s are now in their seventies and the average life span for most Westerners is about 80, there is evidence that quite a few people actually ''become'' bigoted with age. Bitterness about growing old can cause certain people to develop a hostile attitude against most things or even everything in the modern world -- ''[[FormerTeenRebel even of things that their generation helped to bring about in the first place]]''. For example, a recent poll (albeit a dubious one, since it took into account a ''very'' small sampling of the U.S. population) suggested that a surprisingly large number of ''Baby Boomers'' (now in their fifties at the youngest) are now uncomfortable with interracial marriage.



* ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'': Joseph Joestar hates Japanese people, and is shown smacking a guy just for being Japanese in the last page of Part 2. In his case, however, it's not about ethnicity - it's because ever since his daughter married a Japanese man, he almost never sees her. Even then, it's an exaggeration, and he grows out of it anyway, since he shows no hate with all the Japanese people he interacts with in the next two parts, moreso the Japan-placed Part 4. Likewise, any genuine disdain would've been browbeat out of him by his grandmother, who averted this trope, notably, as the time periods we see of her own life were not kind to blacks, and yet she and Joseph treat the latter's newfound friend Smokey, an African-American in 1930s New York, as a dear friend.

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* ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'': Joseph Joestar hates Japanese people, and is shown smacking a guy just for being Japanese in the last page of Part 2. In his case, however, it's not about ethnicity - it's because ever since his daughter married a Japanese man, he almost never rarely sees her. Even then, it's an exaggeration, and he grows out of it anyway, since he shows no hate with all the Japanese people he interacts with in the next two parts, moreso the Japan-placed Part 4. Likewise, any genuine disdain would've been browbeat out of him by his grandmother, who averted this trope, notably, as the time periods we see of her own life were not kind to blacks, and yet she and Joseph treat the latter's newfound friend Smokey, an African-American in 1930s New York, as a dear friend.


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*''Literature/JourneyToChaos'': Out of all of Annala's relatives, her great-grandmother Mildred is the most displeased by her dating a human. She refers to the entire race as "skin-shedding temps". Much of her generation and the following one are like this [[WarIsHell because of their experience in The Conversion War]].
25th Sep '17 10:45:03 AM Malady
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* Played very seriously in [[FlanneryOConnor Flannery O'Conner's]] short story ''Everything That Rises Must Converge'', which centers around a fifty-some year old man taking his elderly mother on a bus ride to the YMCA. While on the bus, the old woman condescendingly offers a little black boy a penny, and gets called on it by the boy's mother. After getting off the bus, the woman's son confronts her about her racism and she is implied to have a stroke in response.

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* Played very seriously in [[FlanneryOConnor Flannery O'Conner's]] Creator/FlanneryOConnor's short story ''Everything That Rises Must Converge'', which centers around a fifty-some year old man taking his elderly mother on a bus ride to the YMCA. While on the bus, the old woman condescendingly offers a little black boy a penny, and gets called on it by the boy's mother. After getting off the bus, the woman's son confronts her about her racism and she is implied to have a stroke in response.
17th Sep '17 4:57:55 PM oldmanyoshi
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>'''MAXINE:''' "I got my reasons."\\
>'''HOYT:''' "And Catholics."\\
>'''MAXINE:''' "Just priests and nuns."\\
>'''HOYT:''' "African Americans."\\
>'''MAXINE:''' "Hush. That's a secret."

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>'''MAXINE:''' '''MAXINE:''' "I got my reasons."\\
>'''HOYT:''' '''HOYT:''' "And Catholics."\\
>'''MAXINE:''' '''MAXINE:''' "Just priests and nuns."\\
>'''HOYT:''' '''HOYT:''' "African Americans."\\
>'''MAXINE:''' '''MAXINE:''' "Hush. That's a secret."
17th Sep '17 4:56:59 PM oldmanyoshi
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->'''MAXINE:''' "I got my reasons."\\
->'''HOYT:''' "And Catholics."\\
->'''MAXINE:''' "Just priests and nuns."\\
->'''HOYT:''' "African Americans."\\
->'''MAXINE:''' "Hush. That's a secret."

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->'''MAXINE:''' >'''MAXINE:''' "I got my reasons."\\
->'''HOYT:''' >'''HOYT:''' "And Catholics."\\
->'''MAXINE:''' >'''MAXINE:''' "Just priests and nuns."\\
->'''HOYT:''' >'''HOYT:''' "African Americans."\\
->'''MAXINE:''' >'''MAXINE:''' "Hush. That's a secret."
17th Sep '17 4:55:42 PM oldmanyoshi
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-->'''MAXINE:''' "I got my reasons."\\
-->'''HOYT:''' "And Catholics."\\
-->'''MAXINE:''' "Just priests and nuns."\\
-->'''HOYT:''' "African Americans."\\
-->'''MAXINE:''' "Hush. That's a secret."

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-->'''MAXINE:''' ->'''MAXINE:''' "I got my reasons."\\
-->'''HOYT:''' ->'''HOYT:''' "And Catholics."\\
-->'''MAXINE:''' ->'''MAXINE:''' "Just priests and nuns."\\
-->'''HOYT:''' ->'''HOYT:''' "African Americans."\\
-->'''MAXINE:''' ->'''MAXINE:''' "Hush. That's a secret."
17th Sep '17 4:54:39 PM oldmanyoshi
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'''HOYT:''' "My mama. Who hates Methodists."\\
'''MAXINE:''' "I got my reasons."\\
'''HOYT:''' "And Catholics."\\
'''MAXINE:''' "Just priests and nuns."\\
'''HOYT:''' "African Americans."\\
'''MAXINE:''' "Hush. That's a secret."

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'''HOYT:''' -->'''HOYT:''' "My mama. Who hates Methodists."\\
'''MAXINE:''' -->'''MAXINE:''' "I got my reasons."\\
'''HOYT:''' -->'''HOYT:''' "And Catholics."\\
'''MAXINE:''' -->'''MAXINE:''' "Just priests and nuns."\\
'''HOYT:''' -->'''HOYT:''' "African Americans."\\
'''MAXINE:''' -->'''MAXINE:''' "Hush. That's a secret."
10th Sep '17 6:33:01 PM Malady
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* Jane from ''TheNewNormal'' is a crueler version of this trope.

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* Jane from ''TheNewNormal'' ''Series/TheNewNormal'' is a crueler version of this trope.



-->'''HOYT:''' "My mama. Who hates Methodists."
-->'''MAXINE:''' "I got my reasons."
-->'''HOYT:''' "And Catholics."
-->'''MAXINE:''' "Just priests and nuns."
-->'''HOYT:''' "African Americans."
-->'''MAXINE:''' "Hush. That's a secret."

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-->'''HOYT:''' '''HOYT:''' "My mama. Who hates Methodists."
-->'''MAXINE:'''
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'''MAXINE:'''
"I got my reasons."
-->'''HOYT:'''
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'''HOYT:'''
"And Catholics."
-->'''MAXINE:'''
"\\
'''MAXINE:'''
"Just priests and nuns."
-->'''HOYT:'''
"\\
'''HOYT:'''
"African Americans."
-->'''MAXINE:'''
"\\
'''MAXINE:'''
"Hush. That's a secret."
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