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10th Jul '16 11:34:11 AM nombretomado
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* In another BioWare game, ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'', [[spoiler:Teirn Loghain has this done to him for killing the King and undermining the war efforts. Another choice is to have him killed.]]
* Third BioWare example. ''Technically'' the whole Star Forge hunt in ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' is being led by Bastila Shan. This quickly degrades into "leading only on paper" as your character is able to take command of the situation and your RagtagBunchOfMisfits who mostly ignore Jedi authority.

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* In another BioWare Creator/BioWare game, ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'', [[spoiler:Teirn Loghain has this done to him for killing the King and undermining the war efforts. Another choice is to have him killed.]]
* Third BioWare [=BioWare=] example. ''Technically'' the whole Star Forge hunt in ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' is being led by Bastila Shan. This quickly degrades into "leading only on paper" as your character is able to take command of the situation and your RagtagBunchOfMisfits who mostly ignore Jedi authority.
9th Jul '16 6:58:02 AM Morgenthaler
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* Titania of ''FireEmblem Path of Radiance'' is first Ike's mentor and boss, and after his father [[TheObiWan dies]], she becomes Ike's subordinate. Unlike many examples of this trope, Ike's youth and inexperience is actually a source of conflict and some of the mercenaries quit over it (Ike ''himself'' thinks this is too sudden). Titania and those that remain do so by choice. Titania also doesn't get demoted - she still has her "second-in-command" position, she just changed bosses.

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* Titania of ''FireEmblem Path of Radiance'' is first Ike's mentor and boss, and after his father [[TheObiWan [[MentorOccupationalHazard dies]], she becomes Ike's subordinate. Unlike many examples of this trope, Ike's youth and inexperience is actually a source of conflict and some of the mercenaries quit over it (Ike ''himself'' thinks this is too sudden). Titania and those that remain do so by choice. Titania also doesn't get demoted - she still has her "second-in-command" position, she just changed bosses.
4th Jul '16 1:05:03 AM Morgenthaler
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** Your efforts don't go unrecognized, as you do get a huge statue in Bruma for saving the city, and yes, it is ''you'', not a generic statue. You will at least be remembered as, probably, TheObiWan played straight.
21st Jun '16 3:21:46 PM KamenRiderOokalf
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* ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' introduces Yuuno so you can watch him get his butt kicked, turn into a ferret, and hand over magic casting and monster fighting duties to our heroine.

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* ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'' introduces Yuuno so you can watch him get his butt kicked, turn into a ferret, and hand over magic casting and monster fighting duties to our heroine.
28th Mar '16 4:34:03 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* Maria of ''SakuraTaisen'' is a firearms expert with intrigue and assassins in her past, so she ''seems'' like a good choice for leader in a war. But she is summarily replaced as field leader by...a rookie cadet we first saw swabbing the deck of a ship. Averted insofar as she stays on as second-in-command, remains competent in the field, and is tapped to be leader once again during the time Oogami is transferred to Paris.
** Dodged in ''SakuraTaisen V'' with Ratchet, no-nonsense knife expert and prototype mech pilot. Leader and general badass, until shortly into Chapter 1. At this moment, her spiritual power gives out, rendering her unable to pilot her mecha and thus no longer able to lead from the front. Instead of getting demoted to following the new hero, Shinjiro Taiga, Ratchet gets the promotion she deserves from being Taiga's immediate commanding officer to still his immediate commanding officer.

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* Maria of ''SakuraTaisen'' ''VideoGame/SakuraWars'' is a firearms expert with intrigue and assassins in her past, so she ''seems'' like a good choice for leader in a war. But she is summarily replaced as field leader by...a rookie cadet we first saw swabbing the deck of a ship. Averted insofar as she stays on as second-in-command, remains competent in the field, and is tapped to be leader once again during the time Oogami Ogami is transferred to Paris.
** Dodged in ''SakuraTaisen V'' ''VideoGame/SakuraWarsSoLongMyLove'' with Ratchet, no-nonsense knife expert and prototype mech pilot. Leader and general badass, until shortly into Chapter 1. At this moment, her spiritual power gives out, rendering her unable to pilot her mecha and thus no longer able to lead from the front. Instead of getting demoted to following the new hero, Shinjiro Taiga, Ratchet gets the promotion she deserves from being Taiga's immediate commanding officer to still being his immediate commanding officer.
25th Mar '16 2:06:00 PM TinMan
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* ''Series/TwentyFour'': Bill Buchanan was introduced on Day 4 as the regional director of Division, which would have him overseeing all CTU bureaus in California. On Day 5 he reappears as the special agent in charge of just CTU Los Angeles, but both he and everyone else was okay with it since he was the first ReasonableAuthorityFigure to serve as S-A-C in a long time.
7th Dec '15 2:16:35 PM VenomLancerHae
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* ''Manga/{{Pretear}}'' puts a [[CastFullOfPrettyBoys harem]] of experienced capable male warriors behind an inexperienced teenage girl. Because she's TheChosenOne and apparently their powers are rather ineffective without being able to merge with said girl. Subverted somewhat because [[spoiler:this did not go well for the ''last'' girl who had to be the Pretear. One FaceHeelTurn later and our male heroes use the exact same methods to find the new {{Pretear}}]]. You think they'd learn.
* In possibly one of the few inversions in existence, ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'' gives us Shinn Asuka's relationship with Athrun Zala. With war breaking out again between the Earth and the PLANTs, Athrun reenlists and in spite of getting a shiny new Savior Gundam does nothing for the greater part of the series, playing second fiddle to [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold a well-meaning but flawed soldier]]. ''Then'' it becomes more apparent Shinn has been being manipulated magnificently by the evil [[ChessMaster Chessmaster]] chairman of ZAFT, and Athrun goes back to the actual hero group, and ends up owning Shinn in the final battle.

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* ''Manga/{{Pretear}}'' puts a [[CastFullOfPrettyBoys harem]] of experienced capable male warriors behind an inexperienced teenage girl. Because she's TheChosenOne and apparently their powers are rather ineffective without being able to merge with said girl. Subverted somewhat because [[spoiler:this did not go well for the ''last'' girl who had to be the Pretear. One FaceHeelTurn later and our male heroes use the exact same methods to find the new {{Pretear}}]].Pretear]]. You think they'd learn.
* In possibly one of the few inversions in existence, ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'' gives us Shinn Asuka's relationship with Athrun Zala. With war breaking out again between the Earth and the PLANTs, [=PLANTs=], Athrun reenlists and in spite of getting a shiny new Savior Gundam does nothing for the greater part of the series, playing second fiddle to [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold a well-meaning but flawed soldier]]. ''Then'' it becomes more apparent Shinn has been being manipulated magnificently by the evil [[ChessMaster Chessmaster]] chairman of ZAFT, and Athrun goes back to the actual hero group, and ends up owning Shinn in the final battle.
5th Oct '15 1:04:40 PM FF32
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** ''VII'' actually completely subverts this trope, Cloud is (as far as the story knows) the most experienced party member and is in fact the guy that tried and failed to stop TheBigBad the last time he showed his face, yet is allowed to lead the party anyway because he's still the most suited for the job.

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** ''VII'' actually completely subverts this trope, Cloud is (as far as the story knows) the most experienced party member and is in fact the guy that tried and failed to stop TheBigBad the BigBad the last time he showed his face, yet is allowed to lead the party anyway because he's still the most suited for the job.
22nd Aug '15 6:17:53 PM nombretomado
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* In possibly one of the few inversions in existence, GundamSEEDDestiny gives us Shinn Asuka's relationship with Athrun Zala. With war breaking out again between the Earth and the PLANTs, Athrun reenlists and in spite of getting a shiny new Savior Gundam does nothing for the greater part of the series, playing second fiddle to [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold a well-meaning but flawed soldier]]. ''Then'' it becomes more apparent Shinn has been being manipulated magnificently by the evil [[ChessMaster Chessmaster]] chairman of ZAFT, and Athrun goes back to the actual hero group, and ends up owning Shinn in the final battle.

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* In possibly one of the few inversions in existence, GundamSEEDDestiny ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'' gives us Shinn Asuka's relationship with Athrun Zala. With war breaking out again between the Earth and the PLANTs, Athrun reenlists and in spite of getting a shiny new Savior Gundam does nothing for the greater part of the series, playing second fiddle to [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold a well-meaning but flawed soldier]]. ''Then'' it becomes more apparent Shinn has been being manipulated magnificently by the evil [[ChessMaster Chessmaster]] chairman of ZAFT, and Athrun goes back to the actual hero group, and ends up owning Shinn in the final battle.
20th Jul '15 7:04:00 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* This happens to Spock at the end of ''Film/StarTrek'' (2009).

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* This happens to Spock at the end of ''Film/StarTrek'' (2009).(2009):
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* Ultra Magnus is given the Matrix of Leadership in ''WesternAnimation/TransformersTheMovie'' and can't get it open ([[MemeticMutation dammit, open!]]). It later falls to Hot Rod to kill [[CosmicHorror Unicron]] with it.
** Foreshadowed because Hot Rod was the first to touch the Matrix as [[spoiler:it falls from Optimus Prime's dying grasp.]]
* Fung from ''ShaolinSoccer''. He's a great soccer player who throws a game and is crippled by [[strike:outraged fans]] a hired mob, then years later becomes the coach to a group who use their shaolin martial arts to form their own soccer team.

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* Ultra Magnus is given the Matrix of Leadership in ''WesternAnimation/TransformersTheMovie'' and can't get it open ([[MemeticMutation dammit, open!]]). open. It later falls to Hot Rod to kill [[CosmicHorror Unicron]] with it.
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it. Foreshadowed because Hot Rod was the first to touch the Matrix as [[spoiler:it falls from Optimus Prime's dying grasp.]]
* Fung from ''ShaolinSoccer''. He's a great soccer player who throws a game and is crippled by [[strike:outraged fans]] a hired mob, then years later becomes the coach to a group who use their shaolin martial arts to form their own soccer team.
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