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29th Oct '17 9:07:48 PM ImpudentInfidel
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* ''Literature/TheBible'' has this in the Book of Daniel (in a section Catholics of both kinds consider canon but Protestants do not). Two elders falsely accuse a woman of adultry (part of a failed blackmail attempt), but don't bother to get their story straight. When Daniel has them questioned seperately they both say they saw her sleeping with a man under a tree, but name completely different kinds that everybody present agrees could not possibly be confused.
8th Aug '17 10:33:06 PM Kayube
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* ''Film/Denial'' When Holocaust denier David Irving is questioned about the gas chamber in Auschwitz he first claims it was for delousing corpses. When questioned why the door would be hermetically sealed with a caged window he says the room was likely used as an air raid shelter. When it is pointed out the shelter is two and a half miles away from the closest barracks he doesn't know what to say. He is then asked why corpses about to be incinerated need to be deloused at all.

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* ''Film/Denial'' ''Film/{{Denial}}'' When Holocaust denier David Irving is questioned about the gas chamber in Auschwitz he first claims it was for delousing corpses. When questioned why the door would be hermetically sealed with a caged window he says the room was likely used as an air raid shelter. When it is pointed out the shelter is two and a half miles away from the closest barracks he doesn't know what to say. He is then asked why corpses about to be incinerated need to be deloused at all.
2nd Aug '17 1:33:49 PM ANTMuddle
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In a comedy series, this can result in a FawltyTowersPlot situation. In a drama, it results in the catastrophic collapse of a villain's house-of-cards scheme. May result from SpottingTheThread if it's not the core of an ImposterExposingTest. Not to be confused with AllClothUnravels, when literally pulling a single loose thread on a piece of clothing causes the whole piece of clothing to come undone.

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In a comedy series, this can result in a FawltyTowersPlot situation. In a drama, it results in the catastrophic collapse of a villain's house-of-cards scheme. May result from SpottingTheThread if it's not the core of an ImposterExposingTest.ImpostorExposingTest. Not to be confused with AllClothUnravels, when literally pulling a single loose thread on a piece of clothing causes the whole piece of clothing to come undone.
2nd Aug '17 1:33:32 PM ANTMuddle
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In a comedy series, this can result in a FawltyTowersPlot situation. In a drama, it results in the catastrophic collapse of a villain's house-of-cards scheme. May result from SpottingTheThread. Not to be confused with AllClothUnravels, when literally pulling a single loose thread on a piece of clothing causes the whole piece of clothing to come undone.

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In a comedy series, this can result in a FawltyTowersPlot situation. In a drama, it results in the catastrophic collapse of a villain's house-of-cards scheme. May result from SpottingTheThread.SpottingTheThread if it's not the core of an ImposterExposingTest. Not to be confused with AllClothUnravels, when literally pulling a single loose thread on a piece of clothing causes the whole piece of clothing to come undone.
20th Jul '17 1:41:52 PM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Tywin casually begins picking apart Arya's deception over time, noting small things like addressing him as "my lord" instead of "milord" to figure out that she's actually nobleborn instead of a commoner like she's pretending. However, he seems more amused by how clever Arya is than upset at the deception.
20th May '17 6:47:41 PM AthenaBlue
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* In Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold's ''Literature/TheWarriorsApprentice'', Miles invents the "Dendarii Free Mercenaries" out of whole cloth as a quick cover story. Then the new "provisonal members" start to inadvertently Pull the Thread, so he adds more detail. [[spoiler:By the end of the novel there actually ''is'' a Dendarii Free Mercenaries -- uniform, field manual, hidden government backing, and all. The majority of it essentially made up on the spot by three terribly overworked people.]]

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* In Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold's ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'': In ''Literature/TheWarriorsApprentice'', Miles invents the "Dendarii Free Mercenaries" out of whole cloth as a quick cover story. Then the new "provisonal members" start to inadvertently Pull the Thread, so he adds more detail. [[spoiler:By the end of the novel there actually ''is'' a Dendarii Free Mercenaries -- uniform, field manual, hidden government backing, and all. The majority of it essentially made up on the spot by three terribly overworked people.]]



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* In ''Series/BrooklynNineNine'', Detective Santiago has a tendency to try and suck up to Captain Holt in order to curry favour and try and persuade him to act as her mentor. Since Captain Holt isn't particularly fond of [[YesMan Yes Men]], he instead tends to use this trope not so much to expose her insincerity (since she does genuinely respect him) but instead to expose the false modesty and flaws in logic that she ties herself in while doing so.
* The ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' third season episode "Faith, Hope & Trick" provides an interesting twist to this trope; [[spoiler: Giles isn't trying to catch Buffy in a lie, he's trying to get her to reveal her DarkSecret - that Angel got his soul back, but she had to kill him to save the world. Giles gets her to reveal this by asking for details about that day for a "binding spell" he needs]].



* The Doctor in ''Series/DoctorWho'' loves doing this. In "Amy's Choice," he sums up his mission (and life philosophy) in two sentences: "Something's not right here. Let's go poke it with a stick..."

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* ''Series/DoctorWho'': The Doctor in ''Series/DoctorWho'' loves doing this. In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E7AmysChoice "Amy's Choice," Choice"]], he sums up his mission (and life philosophy) in two sentences: "Something's sentences:
-->"Something's
not right here. Let's go poke it with a stick..."



-->'''Chandler:''' Oh my God! Those are my bedroom eyes?! Why did you ever sleep with me?
-->'''Monica:''' Do you really want to pull at that thread?

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-->'''Chandler:''' Oh my God! Those are my bedroom eyes?! Why did you ever sleep with me?
-->'''Monica:'''
me?\\
'''Monica:'''
Do you really want to pull at that thread?



* ''Series/ToTellTheTruth'' features this as a tactic to weed out the liars.



* ''Series/ToTellTheTruth'' features this as a tactic to weed out the liars.
* The ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' third season episode "Faith, Hope & Trick" provides an interesting twist to this trope; [[spoiler: Giles isn't trying to catch Buffy in a lie, he's trying to get her to reveal her DarkSecret - that Angel got his soul back, but she had to kill him to save the world. Giles gets her to reveal this by asking for details about that day for a "binding spell" he needs]].
* In ''Series/BrooklynNineNine'', Detective Santiago has a tendency to try and suck up to Captain Holt in order to curry favour and try and persuade him to act as her mentor. Since Captain Holt isn't particularly fond of [[YesMan Yes Men]], he instead tends to use this trope not so much to expose her insincerity (since she does genuinely respect him) but instead to expose the false modesty and flaws in logic that she ties herself in while doing so.



* Happens in an episode of ''WesternAnimation/TheClevelandShow'' when Cleveland and Donna are trying to conceive another child. Cleveland is lying about having an unintentional vasectomy and Donna about being pregnant, but when he finds out Donna faked it because she knew all along, Cleveland tries to play along with his wife's charade until it unravels.



* Happens in an episode of ''WesternAnimation/TheClevelandShow'' when Cleveland and Donna are trying to conceive another child. Cleveland is lying about having an unintentional vasectomy and Donna about being pregnant, but when he finds out Donna faked it because she knew all along, Cleveland tries to play along with his wife's charade until it unravels.



* Works well when you suspect that your spouse or significant other might be cheating on you. Watch for changing stories and half-truths, commonly known as "trickle truth."

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* Works well when you suspect that your spouse or significant other might be cheating on you. Watch for changing stories and half-truths, commonly known as "trickle truth."truth".


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30th Apr '17 6:22:32 PM MurrayTheBlue
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* In ''Series/{{Lost}}'', Sayid interrogates a captive who claims to have reached the island by balloon. How big was the balloon? How did he afford it? What was the business he sold?
** Except the captive answers all the questions in a self-consistent manner. Sayid thinks that he's probably lying, but can't tell for certain. [[spoiler: He turns out to be the leader of the Others, [[MagnificentBastard Benjamin Linus]]]].

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* In ''Series/{{Lost}}'', Sayid interrogates a captive named Henry Gale who claims to have reached the island by balloon. How big was the balloon? How did he afford it? What was the business he sold?
** Except the captive Gale answers all the questions in a self-consistent manner. Sayid thinks that he's probably lying, but can't tell for certain. [[spoiler: He Later the captive gives him directions to the balloon and his wife's grave as proof. Sayid follows the directions and discovers the balloon and grave just where they are supposed to be. However, Sayi is so obsessed with the idea that Gale is lying that he proceeds to DIG UP the grave to further test the story. This turns out to be an incredibly GenreSavvy move, as there is not the body of a woman in the grave, but a man. A man with an ID labelled "Henry Gale"[[spoiler: The captive turns out to be the leader of the Others, [[MagnificentBastard Benjamin Linus]]]].
10th Apr '17 12:40:45 AM Jurodan
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* ''Film/Denial'' When Holocaust denier David Irving is questioned about the gas chamber in Auschwitz he first claims it was for delousing corpses. When questioned why the door would be hermetically sealed with a caged window he says the room was likely used as an air raid shelter. When it is pointed out the shelter is two and a half miles away from the closest barracks he doesn't know what to say. He is then asked why corpses about to be incinerated need to be deloused at all.
11th Mar '17 2:00:38 AM DanaO
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** This also provides a meta-example, due to a property intrinsic to formal systems of logic and thus mathematical proofs: for any such system, either it's merely impossible to prove all expressable and relevant true statements (and you can't prove something is true but unprovable), or there is some way within it to actually derive and "prove" contradictory statements... and while mathematicians and logicians can and do tug on that thread enough to be reassured the system of thought and reasoning we use in real life falls into the former category and thus things like division by zero aren't reasonable operations that accurately model reality, that ''[[ParanoiaFuel isn't conclusively provable]]''.
11th Aug '16 9:22:30 PM PaulA
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* In Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold's Literature/VorkosiganSaga novel ''The Warrior's Apprentice'', Miles invents the "Dendarii Free Mercenaries" out of whole cloth as a quick cover story. Then the new "provisonal members" start to inadvertently PullTheThread , so he adds more detail. [[spoiler: By the end of the novel there actually IS a Dendarii Free Mercenaries, uniform, field manual, hidden government backing, and all. The majority of it essentially made up on the spot by 3 terribly overworked people.]]

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* In Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold's Literature/VorkosiganSaga novel ''The Warrior's Apprentice'', ''Literature/TheWarriorsApprentice'', Miles invents the "Dendarii Free Mercenaries" out of whole cloth as a quick cover story. Then the new "provisonal members" start to inadvertently PullTheThread , Pull the Thread, so he adds more detail. [[spoiler: By [[spoiler:By the end of the novel there actually IS ''is'' a Dendarii Free Mercenaries, Mercenaries -- uniform, field manual, hidden government backing, and all. The majority of it essentially made up on the spot by 3 three terribly overworked people.]]



* In all three incarnations of the ''Series/{{CSI}}'' franchise, characters will indicate that it is time to PullTheThread by saying, "Little lie, big lie."

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* In all three incarnations of the ''Series/{{CSI}}'' franchise, characters will indicate that it is time to PullTheThread Pull the Thread by saying, "Little lie, big lie."
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