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->''La Prusse n'est pas un État qui possède une armée, c'est une armée qui a conquis une nation.''[[note]] Prussia is not a state that possesses an army, but an army that has conquered a state.[[/note]]
-->-- '''''Honoré-Gabriel comte Mirabeau'''''

->''Most nations arise from the coming-together of their people, or through some great revolutionary event. But Prussia was hatched from a cannonball.''
-->--'''''NapoleonBonaparte'''''

'''Prussia''' (''Preußen'' in German), named after the duchy and former ''[[TheTeutonicKnights Ordenstaat]]'' but born of the margravate and electorate of Brandenburg (coincidentally by merging with said ''Ordenstaat'', by then secularized), became the dominant state in Germany (having more than half of Germany's land area and population) by the time it was unified (by Prussia, incidentally) in 1871. From 1701 until the end of WorldWarOne in 1918, it was known as "The Kingdom of Prussia", and post-WWI as "The Free State of Prussia". Because "republic" [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad sounded too French]]. After WorldWarII Prussia
ceased to exist after [[RapePillageAndBurn ethnic cleansing]] by an [[GloriousMotherRussia oddly similar sounding state]] as part of its RoaringRampageOfRevenge. Any one you meet today of "Prussian" decent is either an immigrant or a descendant of an [[TheExile exile]].

Ironically considering their authoritarian bent, some members of the old conservative, aristocratic Prussian officer class (who ''despised'' Nazism) were heavily involved in the plot to assassinate Hitler, but it doesn't stop Hollywood [[NaziNobleman from confusing the two]].

Wilhelm II, pictured, Kaiser (Emperor) of Germany and King of Prussia from 1888 to 1918 is probably the most famous Prussian in popular imagination, mostly for being the [[HistoricalVillainUpgrade "bad guy"]] of WWI. Well, he ''did'' show up in ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' once.

Another notable Prussian was UsefulNotes/OttoVonBismarck, a real-life MagnificentBastard with a [[NiceHat Magnificent Hat]] to prove it. He is at Number 9 on Germany's list of its top 200, because we all love a Magnificent Bastard. [[MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning Despite his being deceased this is undoubtedly part of his plan. Just what part, we may never know.]]

Earlier on, Prussia's dominance was built in the eighteenth century on its trademark [[BadAssArmy militarism]], which was summarized by Count Mirabeau as "some countries possess armies, but Prussia is an [[ProudWarriorRace army that happens to possess a country]]." This reached its CrowningMomentOfAwesome in the SevenYearsWar, when Prussia essentially stood alone (though subsidized by Great Britain) against Austria, Saxony, Russia, France and Sweden. All at once. And not only survived, but kept all of its pre-war territory[[note]] largely out of sheer luck, as the Russian empress died during the middle of the war and her throne passed to a Prussophile nephew who went so far as to mobilize the Russian garrison in Berlin against their former Austrian allies[[/note]]. That's why [[FrederickTheGreat Frederick II]] is called [[TheMagnificent the Great]]. Notably the country was completely smashed flat by Napoleon in 1806, but made a BackFromTheBrink rally, kicked ass at the Battle of the Nations and Waterloo (despite turning up late) and was set on the road to domination of Germany. With the proclamation of the German Empire in 1871 at the Palace of Versailles, Prussia became the part of the new Germany. Some scholars have argued that Germany was not unified at all, and merely "Prussianized".

After WorldWarOne, the Hohenzollern monarchy was overthrown and Germany was forced by the Allies to give up a significant chunk of its eastern territory to the newly-recreated state of Poland[[note]] Territories lost to Poland were Posen and a small bit of Silesia (both of which had Polish majorities), as well as West Prussia (which had a large Polish minority). Germany was forced to give up West Prussia mostly because the League of Nations wanted Poland to have a seaport (the major port in the area, Danzig, was almost entirely German at the time, and despite the Versailles Treaty legally separating it from the rest of Germany, had zero desire to become part of Poland)[[/note]]. This left East Prussia and the old imperial capital Königsberg (plus the neighbouring, short-lived, Free State of Danzig) physically separated from the rest of Germany by a small strip of land known as the Polish Corridor, the existence of which was one of the many many factors that led [[AdolfHitler that short guy with the Chaplin moustache]] and [[ThoseWackyNazis his Prussia-idolizing friends]] to start another war. It didn't end well.

Incidentally, many in the Nazi top leadership had a big nostalgia for the glory days of the Prussian-run Empire and of the Prussian military, so they tended to put on thick Prussian accents in an attempt to emulate their predecessors (most of these men, including Hitler, weren't Prussian at all). This is a ''big'' part of the reason that the Prussian dialect went extinct so quickly (the exiles dropped it because they didn't want to be mistaken for Nazis).

After WorldWarTwo, all of Germany east of the Oder-Neisse[[note]] plus the city of Stettin, now called Sczeczin, which is actually on the west bank of the Oder but was given to Poland anyway[[/note]], most of which was Prussia, was handed over to Poland, partly to compensate her for her own territorial losses to Ukraine and Russia (the northern part of East Prussia, including its capital, went directly to the Soviets). The Germans kept a claim on those areas until 1970, when it signed the Treaties of Moscow and Warsaw. This was again confirmed with the 1992 Treaty of Good Neighbourship, which formally and finally recognized East Prussia, along with Pomerania and Silesia, as part of Poland. The area remains a part of Poland to this day, and almost everyone is happy for it to stay that way. The northern half of East Prussia however outlasted the USSR and remains part of Russia as the Kalilingrad Oblast, where there is still talk by some locals (odd, considering said locals are almost all Russians) to rename the titular city back to Königsberg.[[note]] For what it's worth, the local slang term for the city in Russian is ''Kyonig'', an obvious call-back to its original name.[[/note]]

See PrussianKings for more info regarding [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Prussia's kings]]. [[InspiredBy Compare and contrast]] ImperialGermany. Also related to {{Kaiserreich}}.
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[[AC:{{Anime}} and {{Manga}}]]
* Kind of inverted in ''AxisPowersHetalia'', as the [[MoeAnthropomorphism character]] of Prussia is [[HotBlooded loud, rude, and undisciplined]]. [[BloodKnight But he kicks ass in fights]] ([[SmallNameBigEgo some]][[ButtMonkey times]]) and according to WordOfGod he is ''completely'' devoted to his mentor and one of his bosses, [[MagnificentBastard Friedrich II]]. He has a NiceHat. WordOfGod also once stated that Prussia's true nature is that of a "punctual and dilligent soldier," but this is masked by his bad manners.
** The comic also points out that the Prussian state is descended from TheTeutonicKnights (remember ''[[VideoGame/AgeOfEmpiresII Age of Kings]]'' and ''EuropaUniversalis''?). They were like TheKnightsTemplar, except that they owned all the Baltic states and periodically tried to destroy Poland.
* The Galactic Empire in ''LegendOfGalacticHeroes'' is basically Prussia [[RecycledInSpace IN SPACE]]!
** Same thing with the Andermani Empire in ''Literature/HonorHarrington''.
*** "Andermani" is clearly a play on "Alemanni".
* Weissen in ''Manga/GunkaNoBalzer'' is very similar to Prussia, but with a more blatant military dictatorship.

[[AC:{{Literature}}]]
* The planet on which the plot of PoulAnderson's "Among Thieves" is set is very clearly Prussia [[RecycledInSpace IN SPACE]] - inhabited by Germanic warriors led by a Junker-like aristocracy. The story's protagonist, a wily ChessMaster who is clearly modeled on Bismark, manages to outwit and destroy the story's true villains - a culture of ruthless sadistic cannibals who delight in genocide - and gets the reader's full-hearted applause.

[[AC:ComicBooks]]
* DCComics has Baron Bedlam, an agent of {{Darkseid}} who fits the stereotype to a T. Why an alien "god" from another galaxy models himself after a bygone Earth culture is anybody's guess. (Note the character was created by JackKirby, who had a penchant for creating anachronistic characters.)

[[AC:{{Commercials}}]]
* The latest Citroen ad (that's right, a ''French'' car), "Unmistakeably German- Made in France" invokes this one in spades. "Music/RideOfTheValkyries", fencing, blond bloke and the Brandenburg Gate.

[[AC:{{Film}}]]

* Inspector Kemp in ''Film/YoungFrankenstein'': [[BlingOfWar Spiffy uniform with jackboots]], [[HighClassGlass monocle]] ''[[CrazyAwesome (over an eyepatch)]]'', and [[BadassMustache thick full mustache/mutton chops.]]

[[AC:{{Fanfic}}]]
* The Mass Effect fanfic series {{Fanfic/Uplifted}} plays straight with this trope, with the Prussian aristocracy forming the core of a coup against Hitler. However, the Prussians are viewed as arrogant and narrow minded against non Prussian officers. It is a fairly realistic portrayal of the period.

[[AC:NewspaperComics]]
* Famous sports cartoonist Bill Gallo of the New York Daily News memorably renamed infamous Yankee owner George Steinbrenner as Prussian General von Steingrabber, complete with a thick accent and a pointy helmet. It became so popular that Steinbrenner posed as his Prussian alterego for a photoshoot.

[[AC:[[MassivelyMultiplayerOnlineRolePlayingGame MMORPGs]]]]
* ''CityOfHeroes'' BigBad and resident TheChessmaster Nemesis is from Prussia. He uses only the most state of the art steampunk technology and even dresses his EvilMinions in Prussian military gear. Since he's a very high level villain, it can be quite humbling to have your team wiped by a bunch of guys looking like they belong to a marching band.

[[AC:TabletopGames]]
* The Neu Swabian League, a supranational alliance of Germany, Austria, Hungary, Czechoslovakia and Poland that's one of the ''FullThrust'' superpowers, is Prussia [[RecycledInSpace IN SPACE]] complete with an emblem that's the Imperial Eagle given a sci-fi makeover. In an aversion of Prussia's usual portrayal, they are as close to "good guys" as you're getting in a GreyAndGreyMorality setting.
* In the tabletop RPG ''CastleFalkenstein'', Prussia is the EvilEmpire. Bismarck is basically TheDragon to the setting's BigBad, The Adversary, [[TheFairFolk Lord of the Unseelie]].
* The Chaos Dwarfs in TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} use mostly Mesopotamian imagery, with elaborate helmets, ziggurat temples, Persian style beards and bull-like monsters. But on second look, they are a rigidly disciplined race with advanced industry and love of firepower, especially heavy artillery. And many of their helmets have spikes on top. You can even find an old model of an artillery sergeant wearing a monocle.
** The Reikland, political capital of the Empire, is strongly based on Prussia, keeping with the Germanic theme of the Empire.

[[AC:VideoGames]]
* ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'' gives the German (rumored to be ex-Nazi) Medic an unlockable hat called the Prussian Pickelhaube.
* ''VideoGame/AmnesiaTheDarkDescent'' takes place in a castle in 19th Century Prussia. [[CosmicHorrorStory And it's evil.]]
* In ''Videogame/EuropaUniversalis III'' you can found Prussian beginning in the 1500s. To do this you have to convert to Protestantism, except, ironically if you play as the Teutonic Order, where you can keep the Catholic faith.

[[AC:WebComics]]
* The Jaegermonsters of ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'' invoke a little bit of this, most notably in their [[NiceHat deep respect for ridiculous headgear]]. Captain Vole definitely has vays of makink you tok: his opening line "I hef not yet finished givink my report" is spoken as he ''tears a man's arm off''.
** Also notable is their use [[FunetikAksent ov reedikulous quasi-german hak-sents]], even though the [[TranslationConvention entire cast is supposed to be speaking German]]. This emphasizes the fact that they really ARE invoking tropes in-universe; they were created by a mad scientist in the stereotyped Prussian mold.
*** They do seem to have MoreTeethThanTheOsmondFamily (especially the more monstrous generals), which would presumably give them a rather odd accent.

[[AC:WebOriginal]]
* As it starts out in the eighteenth century, it's unsurprising that Prussia makes an appearance in the AlternateHistory ''LookToTheWest''. There was no Miracle of the House of Brandenburg in this timeline and Frederick the Great was killed at the Battle of Kunersdorf, meaning Prussia's ascendancy is halted. [[spoiler:Prussia is then completely destroyed over a series of later wars, eventually being divided between Denmark and Saxony and its last king exiled to America]].

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->''La Prusse n'est pas un État qui possède une armée, c'est une armée qui a conquis une nation.''[[note]] Prussia is not a state that possesses an army, but an army that has conquered a state.[[/note]]
-->-- '''''Honoré-Gabriel comte Mirabeau'''''

->''Most nations arise from the coming-together of their people, or through some great revolutionary event. But Prussia was hatched from a cannonball.''
-->--'''''NapoleonBonaparte'''''

'''Prussia''' (''Preußen'' in German), named after the duchy and former ''[[TheTeutonicKnights Ordenstaat]]'' but born of the margravate and electorate of Brandenburg (coincidentally by merging with said ''Ordenstaat'', by then secularized), became the dominant state in Germany (having more than half of Germany's land area and population) by the time it was unified (by Prussia, incidentally) in 1871. From 1701 until the end of WorldWarOne in 1918, it was known as "The Kingdom of Prussia", and post-WWI as "The Free State of Prussia". Because "republic" [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad sounded too French]]. After WorldWarII Prussia
ceased to exist after [[RapePillageAndBurn ethnic cleansing]] by an [[GloriousMotherRussia oddly similar sounding state]] as part of its RoaringRampageOfRevenge. Any one you meet today of "Prussian" decent is either an immigrant or a descendant of an [[TheExile exile]].

Ironically considering their authoritarian bent, some members of the old conservative, aristocratic Prussian officer class (who ''despised'' Nazism) were heavily involved in the plot to assassinate Hitler, but it doesn't stop Hollywood [[NaziNobleman from confusing the two]].

Wilhelm II, pictured, Kaiser (Emperor) of Germany and King of Prussia from 1888 to 1918 is probably the most famous Prussian in popular imagination, mostly for being the [[HistoricalVillainUpgrade "bad guy"]] of WWI. Well, he ''did'' show up in ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' once.

Another notable Prussian was UsefulNotes/OttoVonBismarck, a real-life MagnificentBastard with a [[NiceHat Magnificent Hat]] to prove it. He is at Number 9 on Germany's list of its top 200, because we all love a Magnificent Bastard. [[MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning Despite his being deceased this is undoubtedly part of his plan. Just what part, we may never know.]]

Earlier on, Prussia's dominance was built in the eighteenth century on its trademark [[BadAssArmy militarism]], which was summarized by Count Mirabeau as "some countries possess armies, but Prussia is an [[ProudWarriorRace army that happens to possess a country]]." This reached its CrowningMomentOfAwesome in the SevenYearsWar, when Prussia essentially stood alone (though subsidized by Great Britain) against Austria, Saxony, Russia, France and Sweden. All at once. And not only survived, but kept all of its pre-war territory[[note]] largely out of sheer luck, as the Russian empress died during the middle of the war and her throne passed to a Prussophile nephew who went so far as to mobilize the Russian garrison in Berlin against their former Austrian allies[[/note]]. That's why [[FrederickTheGreat Frederick II]] is called [[TheMagnificent the Great]]. Notably the country was completely smashed flat by Napoleon in 1806, but made a BackFromTheBrink rally, kicked ass at the Battle of the Nations and Waterloo (despite turning up late) and was set on the road to domination of Germany. With the proclamation of the German Empire in 1871 at the Palace of Versailles, Prussia became the part of the new Germany. Some scholars have argued that Germany was not unified at all, and merely "Prussianized".

After WorldWarOne, the Hohenzollern monarchy was overthrown and Germany was forced by the Allies to give up a significant chunk of its eastern territory to the newly-recreated state of Poland[[note]] Territories lost to Poland were Posen and a small bit of Silesia (both of which had Polish majorities), as well as West Prussia (which had a large Polish minority). Germany was forced to give up West Prussia mostly because the League of Nations wanted Poland to have a seaport (the major port in the area, Danzig, was almost entirely German at the time, and despite the Versailles Treaty legally separating it from the rest of Germany, had zero desire to become part of Poland)[[/note]]. This left East Prussia and the old imperial capital Königsberg (plus the neighbouring, short-lived, Free State of Danzig) physically separated from the rest of Germany by a small strip of land known as the Polish Corridor, the existence of which was one of the many many factors that led [[AdolfHitler that short guy with the Chaplin moustache]] and [[ThoseWackyNazis his Prussia-idolizing friends]] to start another war. It didn't end well.

Incidentally, many in the Nazi top leadership had a big nostalgia for the glory days of the Prussian-run Empire and of the Prussian military, so they tended to put on thick Prussian accents in an attempt to emulate their predecessors (most of these men, including Hitler, weren't Prussian at all). This is a ''big'' part of the reason that the Prussian dialect went extinct so quickly (the exiles dropped it because they didn't want to be mistaken for Nazis).

After WorldWarTwo, all of Germany east of the Oder-Neisse[[note]] plus the city of Stettin, now called Sczeczin, which is actually on the west bank of the Oder but was given to Poland anyway[[/note]], most of which was Prussia, was handed over to Poland, partly to compensate her for her own territorial losses to Ukraine and Russia (the northern part of East Prussia, including its capital, went directly to the Soviets). The Germans kept a claim on those areas until 1970, when it signed the Treaties of Moscow and Warsaw. This was again confirmed with the 1992 Treaty of Good Neighbourship, which formally and finally recognized East Prussia, along with Pomerania and Silesia, as part of Poland. The area remains a part of Poland to this day, and almost everyone is happy for it to stay that way. The northern half of East Prussia however outlasted the USSR and remains part of Russia as the Kalilingrad Oblast, where there is still talk by some locals (odd, considering said locals are almost all Russians) to rename the titular city back to Königsberg.[[note]] For what it's worth, the local slang term for the city in Russian is ''Kyonig'', an obvious call-back to its original name.[[/note]]

See PrussianKings for more info regarding [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Prussia's kings]]. [[InspiredBy Compare and contrast]] ImperialGermany. Also related to {{Kaiserreich}}.
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[[AC:{{Anime}} and {{Manga}}]]
* Kind of inverted in ''AxisPowersHetalia'', as the [[MoeAnthropomorphism character]] of Prussia is [[HotBlooded loud, rude, and undisciplined]]. [[BloodKnight But he kicks ass in fights]] ([[SmallNameBigEgo some]][[ButtMonkey times]]) and according to WordOfGod he is ''completely'' devoted to his mentor and one of his bosses, [[MagnificentBastard Friedrich II]]. He has a NiceHat. WordOfGod also once stated that Prussia's true nature is that of a "punctual and dilligent soldier," but this is masked by his bad manners.
** The comic also points out that the Prussian state is descended from TheTeutonicKnights (remember ''[[VideoGame/AgeOfEmpiresII Age of Kings]]'' and ''EuropaUniversalis''?). They were like TheKnightsTemplar, except that they owned all the Baltic states and periodically tried to destroy Poland.
* The Galactic Empire in ''LegendOfGalacticHeroes'' is basically Prussia [[RecycledInSpace IN SPACE]]!
** Same thing with the Andermani Empire in ''Literature/HonorHarrington''.
*** "Andermani" is clearly a play on "Alemanni".
* Weissen in ''Manga/GunkaNoBalzer'' is very similar to Prussia, but with a more blatant military dictatorship.

[[AC:{{Literature}}]]
* The planet on which the plot of PoulAnderson's "Among Thieves" is set is very clearly Prussia [[RecycledInSpace IN SPACE]] - inhabited by Germanic warriors led by a Junker-like aristocracy. The story's protagonist, a wily ChessMaster who is clearly modeled on Bismark, manages to outwit and destroy the story's true villains - a culture of ruthless sadistic cannibals who delight in genocide - and gets the reader's full-hearted applause.

[[AC:ComicBooks]]
* DCComics has Baron Bedlam, an agent of {{Darkseid}} who fits the stereotype to a T. Why an alien "god" from another galaxy models himself after a bygone Earth culture is anybody's guess. (Note the character was created by JackKirby, who had a penchant for creating anachronistic characters.)

[[AC:{{Commercials}}]]
* The latest Citroen ad (that's right, a ''French'' car), "Unmistakeably German- Made in France" invokes this one in spades. "Music/RideOfTheValkyries", fencing, blond bloke and the Brandenburg Gate.

[[AC:{{Film}}]]

* Inspector Kemp in ''Film/YoungFrankenstein'': [[BlingOfWar Spiffy uniform with jackboots]], [[HighClassGlass monocle]] ''[[CrazyAwesome (over an eyepatch)]]'', and [[BadassMustache thick full mustache/mutton chops.]]

[[AC:{{Fanfic}}]]
* The Mass Effect fanfic series {{Fanfic/Uplifted}} plays straight with this trope, with the Prussian aristocracy forming the core of a coup against Hitler. However, the Prussians are viewed as arrogant and narrow minded against non Prussian officers. It is a fairly realistic portrayal of the period.

[[AC:NewspaperComics]]
* Famous sports cartoonist Bill Gallo of the New York Daily News memorably renamed infamous Yankee owner George Steinbrenner as Prussian General von Steingrabber, complete with a thick accent and a pointy helmet. It became so popular that Steinbrenner posed as his Prussian alterego for a photoshoot.

[[AC:[[MassivelyMultiplayerOnlineRolePlayingGame MMORPGs]]]]
* ''CityOfHeroes'' BigBad and resident TheChessmaster Nemesis is from Prussia. He uses only the most state of the art steampunk technology and even dresses his EvilMinions in Prussian military gear. Since he's a very high level villain, it can be quite humbling to have your team wiped by a bunch of guys looking like they belong to a marching band.

[[AC:TabletopGames]]
* The Neu Swabian League, a supranational alliance of Germany, Austria, Hungary, Czechoslovakia and Poland that's one of the ''FullThrust'' superpowers, is Prussia [[RecycledInSpace IN SPACE]] complete with an emblem that's the Imperial Eagle given a sci-fi makeover. In an aversion of Prussia's usual portrayal, they are as close to "good guys" as you're getting in a GreyAndGreyMorality setting.
* In the tabletop RPG ''CastleFalkenstein'', Prussia is the EvilEmpire. Bismarck is basically TheDragon to the setting's BigBad, The Adversary, [[TheFairFolk Lord of the Unseelie]].
* The Chaos Dwarfs in TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} use mostly Mesopotamian imagery, with elaborate helmets, ziggurat temples, Persian style beards and bull-like monsters. But on second look, they are a rigidly disciplined race with advanced industry and love of firepower, especially heavy artillery. And many of their helmets have spikes on top. You can even find an old model of an artillery sergeant wearing a monocle.
** The Reikland, political capital of the Empire, is strongly based on Prussia, keeping with the Germanic theme of the Empire.

[[AC:VideoGames]]
* ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'' gives the German (rumored to be ex-Nazi) Medic an unlockable hat called the Prussian Pickelhaube.
* ''VideoGame/AmnesiaTheDarkDescent'' takes place in a castle in 19th Century Prussia. [[CosmicHorrorStory And it's evil.]]
* In ''Videogame/EuropaUniversalis III'' you can found Prussian beginning in the 1500s. To do this you have to convert to Protestantism, except, ironically if you play as the Teutonic Order, where you can keep the Catholic faith.

[[AC:WebComics]]
* The Jaegermonsters of ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'' invoke a little bit of this, most notably in their [[NiceHat deep respect for ridiculous headgear]]. Captain Vole definitely has vays of makink you tok: his opening line "I hef not yet finished givink my report" is spoken as he ''tears a man's arm off''.
** Also notable is their use [[FunetikAksent ov reedikulous quasi-german hak-sents]], even though the [[TranslationConvention entire cast is supposed to be speaking German]]. This emphasizes the fact that they really ARE invoking tropes in-universe; they were created by a mad scientist in the stereotyped Prussian mold.
*** They do seem to have MoreTeethThanTheOsmondFamily (especially the more monstrous generals), which would presumably give them a rather odd accent.

[[AC:WebOriginal]]
* As it starts out in the eighteenth century, it's unsurprising that Prussia makes an appearance in the AlternateHistory ''LookToTheWest''. There was no Miracle of the House of Brandenburg in this timeline and Frederick the Great was killed at the Battle of Kunersdorf, meaning Prussia's ascendancy is halted. [[spoiler:Prussia is then completely destroyed over a series of later wars, eventually being divided between Denmark and Saxony and its last king exiled to America]].

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23rd Oct '13 2:25:40 PM SantosLHalper
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For Hollywood, Prussia or rather, the Prussian stereotype lives on into ThePresentDay as an alternative to {{Oktoberfest}} (which, incidentally, is [[TheSixteenLandsOfDeutschland Bavarian]]). The Prussians/Germans are depicted as all having bullet-shaped heads, crew cuts, ''Pickelhaube'' helmets, [[BadassMustache impressive mustaches]], [[HighClassGlass monocles]], [[DuelingScar duelling scars]], "corpse discipline" (the kind of discipline that would make a corpse jump up and stand to attention), [[JustAStupidAccent "und veys hof makink hyu tok"]] and {{Nice Hat}}s.



Also ironically, the stereotype is to a certain extent a German invention. Specifically, a southern and western (often Roman Catholic, as opposed to the Lutheran north) German one[[note]] Prussia occupied a great deal of Western Germany after the Congress of Vienna in 1815 -- but the Westerners referred to themselves as ''Muß-Preußen''" -- "Have-To-Be-Prussians"[[/note]]. The traits of militarism, arrogant aristocrats, duels, and "veys hof makink hyu tohk" (German has many strong dialects, so the silly Prussian accent can be invoked in German as well as English) were ascribed to the Prussian northerners by Bavarian, Rhenish, and Swabian (not to mention Austrian) southerners for a long time before the lands which form modern Germany were unified under northern leadership and the archetype went international.
27th Sep '13 12:47:34 PM SantosLHalper
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See PrussianKings for more info regarding [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Prussia's kings]]. [[InspiredBy Compare and contrast]] ImperialGermany. Also related to FatherLand.

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See PrussianKings for more info regarding [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Prussia's kings]]. [[InspiredBy Compare and contrast]] ImperialGermany. Also related to FatherLand.{{Kaiserreich}}.
27th Aug '13 11:20:01 AM SeptimusHeap
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*** [[StepThreeProfit In other words]]: Step 1: [[TheTeutonicKnights Teutonic Knights]] - Step 2: AWESOME - Step 3: [[strike:Profit!]] Prussia!
*** Alternately: [[http://pyrrhiccomedy.livejournal.com/39420.html 1) Take no shit. 2) Fuck shit up (for Jesus?) 3) ??? 4) Profit]]
13th Aug '13 12:02:26 PM ChaoticNovelist
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'''{{Prussia}}''' (''Preußen'' in German), named after the duchy and former ''[[TheTeutonicKnights Ordenstaat]]'' but born of the margravate and electorate of Brandenburg (coincidentally by merging with said ''Ordenstaat'', by then secularized), became the dominant state in Germany (having more than half of Germany's land area and population) by the time it was unified (by Prussia, incidentally) in 1871. From 1701 until the end of WorldWarOne in 1918, it was known as "The Kingdom of Prussia", and post-WWI as "The Free State of Prussia". Because "republic" [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad sounded too French]]. After WorldWarII Prussia simply
ceased to exist after being [[RapePillageAndBurn ethnic cleansed]] by an [[GloriousMotherRussia oddly similar sounding state]] as part of its RoaringRampageOfRevenge. Any one you meet today of "Prussian" decent is either an immigrant or a descendant of an [[TheExile exile]].

For Hollywood though, Prussia or rather, the Prussian stereotype lives on into ThePresentDay as an alternative to {{Oktoberfest}} (which, incidentally, is [[TheSixteenLandsOfDeutschland Bavarian]]). The Prussians/Germans are depicted as all having bullet-shaped heads, crew cuts, ''Pickelhaube'' helmets, [[BadassMustache impressive mustaches]], [[HighClassGlass monocles]], [[DuelingScar duelling scars]], "corpse discipline" (the kind of discipline that would make a corpse jump up and stand to attention), [[JustAStupidAccent "und veys hof makink hyu tok"]]. Not to mention {{Nice Hat}}s.

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'''{{Prussia}}''' '''Prussia''' (''Preußen'' in German), named after the duchy and former ''[[TheTeutonicKnights Ordenstaat]]'' but born of the margravate and electorate of Brandenburg (coincidentally by merging with said ''Ordenstaat'', by then secularized), became the dominant state in Germany (having more than half of Germany's land area and population) by the time it was unified (by Prussia, incidentally) in 1871. From 1701 until the end of WorldWarOne in 1918, it was known as "The Kingdom of Prussia", and post-WWI as "The Free State of Prussia". Because "republic" [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad sounded too French]]. After WorldWarII Prussia simply
Prussia
ceased to exist after being [[RapePillageAndBurn ethnic cleansed]] cleansing]] by an [[GloriousMotherRussia oddly similar sounding state]] as part of its RoaringRampageOfRevenge. Any one you meet today of "Prussian" decent is either an immigrant or a descendant of an [[TheExile exile]].

For Hollywood though, Hollywood, Prussia or rather, the Prussian stereotype lives on into ThePresentDay as an alternative to {{Oktoberfest}} (which, incidentally, is [[TheSixteenLandsOfDeutschland Bavarian]]). The Prussians/Germans are depicted as all having bullet-shaped heads, crew cuts, ''Pickelhaube'' helmets, [[BadassMustache impressive mustaches]], [[HighClassGlass monocles]], [[DuelingScar duelling scars]], "corpse discipline" (the kind of discipline that would make a corpse jump up and stand to attention), [[JustAStupidAccent "und veys hof makink hyu tok"]]. Not to mention tok"]] and {{Nice Hat}}s.



Another notable Prussian was UsefulNotes/OttoVonBismarck, a real-life MagnificentBastard with a [[NiceHat Magnificent Hat]] to prove it. He is at Number 9 on Germany's list of its top 200, because we all love a Magnificent Bastard. [[XanatosRoulette Despite his being deceased. This is undoubtedly part of his plan. Just what part, we may never know.]]

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Another notable Prussian was UsefulNotes/OttoVonBismarck, a real-life MagnificentBastard with a [[NiceHat Magnificent Hat]] to prove it. He is at Number 9 on Germany's list of its top 200, because we all love a Magnificent Bastard. [[XanatosRoulette [[MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning Despite his being deceased. This deceased this is undoubtedly part of his plan. Just what part, we may never know.]]



* ''CityOfHeroes'' BigBad and resident [[TheChessmaster xanatos]] Nemesis is actually from Prussia. He uses only the most state of the art steampunk technology and even dresses his EvilMinions in Prussian military gear. Since he's a very high level villain, it can be quite humbling to have your team wiped by a bunch of guys looking like they belong to a marching band.

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* ''CityOfHeroes'' BigBad and resident [[TheChessmaster xanatos]] TheChessmaster Nemesis is actually from Prussia. He uses only the most state of the art steampunk technology and even dresses his EvilMinions in Prussian military gear. Since he's a very high level villain, it can be quite humbling to have your team wiped by a bunch of guys looking like they belong to a marching band.
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*** They do seem to have MoreTeethThanTheOsmondFamily (especially the more monstrous generals), which would presumably give them a rather odd accent.
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'''{{Prussia}}''' (''Preußen'' in German), named after the duchy and former ''[[TheTeutonicKnights Ordenstaat]]'' but born of the margravate and electorate of Brandenburg (coincidentally by merging with said ''Ordenstaat,'' by then secularized), became the dominant state in Germany (having more than half of Germany's land area and population) by the time it was unified (by Prussia, incidentally) in 1871. From 1701 until the end of WorldWarOne in 1918, it was known as "The Kingdom of Prussia", and post WorldWarOne, "The Free State of Prussia". Because "republic" [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad sounded too French]]. After WorldWarII Prussia simply
ceased to exist after being [[RapePillageAndBurn ethnic cleansed]] by an [[GloriousMotherRussia oddly similar sounding state]] [[note]] technically not, that state was called USSR[[/note]] as part of its RoaringRampageOfRevenge. Any one you meet today of Prussian decent is either an immigrant or a descendant of an [[TheExile exile]].

For Hollywood though, Prussia, or rather, the Prussian stereotype, lives on into ThePresentDay as an alternative to {{Oktoberfest}} (which, incidentally, is [[TheSixteenLandsOfDeutschland Bavarian]]). The Prussians/Germans are depicted as all having bullet-shaped heads, crew cuts, ''Pickelhaube'' helmets, [[BadassMustache impressive mustaches]], [[HighClassGlass monocles]], [[DuelingScar duelling scars]], "corpse discipline" (the kind of discipline that would make a corpse jump up and stand to attention), [[JustAStupidAccent "und veys hof makink hyu tok"]]. Not to mention {{Nice Hat}}s.

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'''{{Prussia}}''' (''Preußen'' in German), named after the duchy and former ''[[TheTeutonicKnights Ordenstaat]]'' but born of the margravate and electorate of Brandenburg (coincidentally by merging with said ''Ordenstaat,'' ''Ordenstaat'', by then secularized), became the dominant state in Germany (having more than half of Germany's land area and population) by the time it was unified (by Prussia, incidentally) in 1871. From 1701 until the end of WorldWarOne in 1918, it was known as "The Kingdom of Prussia", and post WorldWarOne, post-WWI as "The Free State of Prussia". Because "republic" [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad sounded too French]]. After WorldWarII Prussia simply
ceased to exist after being [[RapePillageAndBurn ethnic cleansed]] by an [[GloriousMotherRussia oddly similar sounding state]] [[note]] technically not, that state was called USSR[[/note]] as part of its RoaringRampageOfRevenge. Any one you meet today of Prussian "Prussian" decent is either an immigrant or a descendant of an [[TheExile exile]].

For Hollywood though, Prussia, Prussia or rather, the Prussian stereotype, stereotype lives on into ThePresentDay as an alternative to {{Oktoberfest}} (which, incidentally, is [[TheSixteenLandsOfDeutschland Bavarian]]). The Prussians/Germans are depicted as all having bullet-shaped heads, crew cuts, ''Pickelhaube'' helmets, [[BadassMustache impressive mustaches]], [[HighClassGlass monocles]], [[DuelingScar duelling scars]], "corpse discipline" (the kind of discipline that would make a corpse jump up and stand to attention), [[JustAStupidAccent "und veys hof makink hyu tok"]]. Not to mention {{Nice Hat}}s.



After WorldWarTwo, all of Germany east of the Oder-Neisse, most of which was Prussia, was handed over to Poland, partly to compensate her for her own territorial losses to Ukraine and Russia (the northern part of East Prussia, including its capital, went directly to the Soviets). The Germans kept a claim on those areas until 1970, when it signed the Treaties of Moscow and Warsaw. This was again confirmed with the 1992 Treaty of Good Neighbourship, which formally and finally recognized East Prussia, along with Pomerania and Silesia, as part of Poland. The area remains a part of Poland to this day, and almost everyone is happy for it to stay that way. The northern half of East Prussia however outlasted the USSR and remains part of Russia as the Kalilingrad Oblast, where there is still talk by some locals (odd, considering said locals are almost all Russians) to rename the titular city back to Königsberg,

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After WorldWarOne, the Hohenzollern monarchy was overthrown and Germany was forced by the Allies to give up a significant chunk of its eastern territory to the newly-recreated state of Poland[[note]] Territories lost to Poland were Posen and a small bit of Silesia (both of which had Polish majorities), as well as West Prussia (which had a large Polish minority). Germany was forced to give up West Prussia mostly because the League of Nations wanted Poland to have a seaport (the major port in the area, Danzig, was almost entirely German at the time, and despite the Versailles Treaty legally separating it from the rest of Germany, had zero desire to become part of Poland)[[/note]]. This left East Prussia and the old imperial capital Königsberg (plus the neighbouring, short-lived, Free State of Danzig) physically separated from the rest of Germany by a small strip of land known as the Polish Corridor, the existence of which was one of the many many factors that led [[AdolfHitler that short guy with the Chaplin moustache]] and [[ThoseWackyNazis his Prussia-idolizing friends]] to start another war. It didn't end well.

Incidentally, many in the Nazi top leadership had a big nostalgia for the glory days of the Prussian-run Empire and of the Prussian military, so they tended to put on thick Prussian accents in an attempt to emulate their predecessors (most of these men, including Hitler, weren't Prussian at all). This is a ''big'' part of the reason that the Prussian dialect went extinct so quickly (the exiles dropped it because they didn't want to be mistaken for Nazis).

After WorldWarTwo, all of Germany east of the Oder-Neisse, Oder-Neisse[[note]] plus the city of Stettin, now called Sczeczin, which is actually on the west bank of the Oder but was given to Poland anyway[[/note]], most of which was Prussia, was handed over to Poland, partly to compensate her for her own territorial losses to Ukraine and Russia (the northern part of East Prussia, including its capital, went directly to the Soviets). The Germans kept a claim on those areas until 1970, when it signed the Treaties of Moscow and Warsaw. This was again confirmed with the 1992 Treaty of Good Neighbourship, which formally and finally recognized East Prussia, along with Pomerania and Silesia, as part of Poland. The area remains a part of Poland to this day, and almost everyone is happy for it to stay that way. The northern half of East Prussia however outlasted the USSR and remains part of Russia as the Kalilingrad Oblast, where there is still talk by some locals (odd, considering said locals are almost all Russians) to rename the titular city back to Königsberg,
Königsberg.[[note]] For what it's worth, the local slang term for the city in Russian is ''Kyonig'', an obvious call-back to its original name.[[/note]]



* Kind of inverted in ''AxisPowersHetalia'', as the [[MoeAnthropomorphism character]] of Prussia is [[HotBlooded loud, rude and undisciplined]]. [[BloodKnight But he kicks ass in fights]] ([[SmallNameBigEgo some]][[ButtMonkey times]]) and according to WordOfGod he is ''completely'' devoted to his mentor and one of his bosses, [[MagnificentBastard Friedrich II]]. He has a NiceHat. WordOfGod also once stated that Prussia's true nature is that of a "punctual and dilligent soldier," but this is masked by his bad manners.

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* Kind of inverted in ''AxisPowersHetalia'', as the [[MoeAnthropomorphism character]] of Prussia is [[HotBlooded loud, rude rude, and undisciplined]]. [[BloodKnight But he kicks ass in fights]] ([[SmallNameBigEgo some]][[ButtMonkey times]]) and according to WordOfGod he is ''completely'' devoted to his mentor and one of his bosses, [[MagnificentBastard Friedrich II]]. He has a NiceHat. WordOfGod also once stated that Prussia's true nature is that of a "punctual and dilligent soldier," but this is masked by his bad manners.
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Ironically some member of the old conservative, aristocratic Prussian officer class (who despised Nazism) were heavily involved in the plot to assassinate Hitler, but it doesn't stop Hollywood [[NaziNobleman from confusing the two]].

Also ironically, the stereotype is to a certain extent a German invention, specifically, a southern and western (and often Roman Catholic, as opposed to the Lutheran north) German one [[note]] ironically, Prussian occupied a great deal of Western Germany after the Congress of Vienna in 1815 -- but the Westerners referred to themselves as ''Muß-Preußen''" -- "Have-To-Be-Prussians"[[/note]]. The traits of militarism, arrogant aristocrats, duels, and "veys hof makink hyu tohk" (German has many strong dialects, so the silly Prussian accent can be invoked in German as well as English) were ascribed to the Prussian northerners by Bavarian, Rhenish, and Swabian (not to mention Austrian) southerners for a long time before the lands which form modern Germany were unified under northern leadership and the archetype went international.

Wilhelm II, pictured, Kaiser (Emperor) of Germany and King of Prussia from 1888 to 1918 is probably the most famous Prussian in popular imagination, mostly for being the [[HistoricalVillainUpgrade "bad guy"]] of WWI. Well, he ''did'' show up in ''TheSimpsons'' once.

Another notable Prussian was UsefulNotes/OttoVonBismarck, a real-life MagnificentBastard with a [[NiceHat Magnificent Hat]] to prove it. He is at Number 9 on Germany's list of its top 200, because we all love a Magnificent Bastard. [[XanatosRoulette Despite his being deceased. This is undoubtably part of his plan. Just what part, we may never know.]]

Earlier on, Prussia's dominance was built in the eighteenth century on its trademark [[BadAssArmy militarism]], which was summarised by Count Mirabeau as "some countries possess armies, but Prussia is an [[ProudWarriorRace army that happens to possess a country]]." This reached its CrowningMomentOfAwesome in the SevenYearsWar, when Prussia essentially stood alone (though subsidied by Great Britain) against Austria, Saxony, Russia, France and Sweden. All at once. And not only survived, but kept all of its pre-war territory[[note]]largely out of sheer luck, as the Russian empress died in the middle of the war and her throne passed to a prussophile nephew who went so far as to mobilize the Russian garrison in Berlin against their former Austrian allies[[/note]]. That's why [[FrederickTheGreat Frederick II]] is called [[TheMagnificent the Great]]. Notably the country was completely smashed flat by Napoleon in 1806, but made a BackFromTheBrink rally, kicked ass at the Battle of the Nations and Waterloo (despite turning up late) and was set on the road to domination of Germany. With the proclamation of the German Empire in 1871 at the Palace of Versailles, Prussia became the part of the new Germany. Some scholars have argued that Germany was not unified at all, and merely "Prussianized." After WorldWarTwo, all of Germany east of the Oder-Neisse, most of which was Prussia, was handed over to Poland, partly to compensate her for her own territorial losses to Ukraine and Russia. The Germans kept a claim on those areas until 1970, when it signed the Treaties of Moscow and Warsaw. This was again confirmed with the 1992 Treaty of Good Neighbourship, which formally and finally recognized East Prussia, along with Pomerania and Silesia, as part of Poland. The area remains a part of Poland to this day, and almost everyone is happy for it to stay that way. The northern half of East Prussia however outlasted the USSR and remains part of Russia as the Kalilingrad Oblast, where there is still talk by some to (despite by this point largely Russian) rename the titular city back to Konigsberg,

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Ironically considering their authoritarian bent, some member members of the old conservative, aristocratic Prussian officer class (who despised ''despised'' Nazism) were heavily involved in the plot to assassinate Hitler, but it doesn't stop Hollywood [[NaziNobleman from confusing the two]].

Also ironically, the stereotype is to a certain extent a German invention, specifically, invention. Specifically, a southern and western (and often (often Roman Catholic, as opposed to the Lutheran north) German one [[note]] ironically, Prussian one[[note]] Prussia occupied a great deal of Western Germany after the Congress of Vienna in 1815 -- but the Westerners referred to themselves as ''Muß-Preußen''" -- "Have-To-Be-Prussians"[[/note]]. The traits of militarism, arrogant aristocrats, duels, and "veys hof makink hyu tohk" (German has many strong dialects, so the silly Prussian accent can be invoked in German as well as English) were ascribed to the Prussian northerners by Bavarian, Rhenish, and Swabian (not to mention Austrian) southerners for a long time before the lands which form modern Germany were unified under northern leadership and the archetype went international.

Wilhelm II, pictured, Kaiser (Emperor) of Germany and King of Prussia from 1888 to 1918 is probably the most famous Prussian in popular imagination, mostly for being the [[HistoricalVillainUpgrade "bad guy"]] of WWI. Well, he ''did'' show up in ''TheSimpsons'' ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' once.

Another notable Prussian was UsefulNotes/OttoVonBismarck, a real-life MagnificentBastard with a [[NiceHat Magnificent Hat]] to prove it. He is at Number 9 on Germany's list of its top 200, because we all love a Magnificent Bastard. [[XanatosRoulette Despite his being deceased. This is undoubtably undoubtedly part of his plan. Just what part, we may never know.]]

Earlier on, Prussia's dominance was built in the eighteenth century on its trademark [[BadAssArmy militarism]], which was summarised summarized by Count Mirabeau as "some countries possess armies, but Prussia is an [[ProudWarriorRace army that happens to possess a country]]." This reached its CrowningMomentOfAwesome in the SevenYearsWar, when Prussia essentially stood alone (though subsidied subsidized by Great Britain) against Austria, Saxony, Russia, France and Sweden. All at once. And not only survived, but kept all of its pre-war territory[[note]]largely territory[[note]] largely out of sheer luck, as the Russian empress died in during the middle of the war and her throne passed to a prussophile Prussophile nephew who went so far as to mobilize the Russian garrison in Berlin against their former Austrian allies[[/note]]. That's why [[FrederickTheGreat Frederick II]] is called [[TheMagnificent the Great]]. Notably the country was completely smashed flat by Napoleon in 1806, but made a BackFromTheBrink rally, kicked ass at the Battle of the Nations and Waterloo (despite turning up late) and was set on the road to domination of Germany. With the proclamation of the German Empire in 1871 at the Palace of Versailles, Prussia became the part of the new Germany. Some scholars have argued that Germany was not unified at all, and merely "Prussianized." "Prussianized".

After WorldWarTwo, all of Germany east of the Oder-Neisse, most of which was Prussia, was handed over to Poland, partly to compensate her for her own territorial losses to Ukraine and Russia.Russia (the northern part of East Prussia, including its capital, went directly to the Soviets). The Germans kept a claim on those areas until 1970, when it signed the Treaties of Moscow and Warsaw. This was again confirmed with the 1992 Treaty of Good Neighbourship, which formally and finally recognized East Prussia, along with Pomerania and Silesia, as part of Poland. The area remains a part of Poland to this day, and almost everyone is happy for it to stay that way. The northern half of East Prussia however outlasted the USSR and remains part of Russia as the Kalilingrad Oblast, where there is still talk by some locals (odd, considering said locals are almost all Russians) to (despite by this point largely Russian) rename the titular city back to Konigsberg,
Königsberg,
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