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14th Apr '18 1:33:16 PM dutchguy1986
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** All of this is actually an inuniverse misninterpretation of the prophecy; the two {{precursor}} races each foretold of a champion. The prophecy showed two possible outcomes, one with each champion winning. Everyone assumes that Kain is the vampire champion and that Raziel is the other one. [[spoiler: In truth, Raziel is both champions, and the multiple choice prophecy is due to his own free will, something that only he has in the setting.]]

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** All of this is actually an inuniverse misninterpretation in-universe misinterpretation of the prophecy; the two {{precursor}} races each foretold of a champion. The prophecy showed two possible outcomes, one with each champion winning. Everyone assumes that Kain is the vampire champion and that Raziel is the other one. [[spoiler: In truth, Raziel is both champions, and the multiple choice prophecy is due to his own free will, something that only he has in the setting.]]
21st Mar '18 10:18:06 AM catmuto
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** Additionally, Voldemort's ego meant he never stopped to consider that doing ''[[TakeAThirdOption nothing]]'' would have thwarted the prophecy completely. If he attacked neither boy, neither would be "marked as his equal" and neither would gain the power to defeat him. In the Potterverse, even legitimate prophecies can and do go unfulfilled, because they're merely a vision of what '''could''' happen, not a guarantee of what '''will''' happen.
19th Feb '18 12:17:59 PM UltramarineAlizarin
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* In part 3 of ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'', the Stand called Thoth is a comic book that shows predictions of the future. When they aren't subject to ProphecyTwist, this happens instead. For instance, the villains see a prediction of the protagonists drinking poisoned tea, which does happen. ([[spoiler:But the prediction didn't show that they would spit it out when Iggy startles them.]]) Later, Hol Horse is working with Boingo and insists that he'd [[WouldntHitAGirl never kick an innocent woman]] even if the book shows it. ([[spoiler:When he does, it kills a scorpion hiding in her clothes and earns her gratitude]]). Presumably, [[{{Superdickery}} the comic was from Silver Age DC]].

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* In part 3 of ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'', ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventureStardustCrusaders'', the Stand called Thoth is a comic book that shows predictions of the future. When they aren't subject to ProphecyTwist, this happens instead. For instance, the villains see a prediction of the protagonists drinking that they'll serve poisoned tea, which does happen. ([[spoiler:But tea and the heroes will drink it. ([[spoiler:The prediction didn't doesn't show that they would they'll spit it out when Iggy startles them.]]) Later, Hol Horse is working with Boingo and insists that he'd [[WouldntHitAGirl he'd never kick an innocent woman]] even if though the book shows he'll be rewarded for it. ([[spoiler:When he does, it kills a scorpion hiding in her clothes and clothes, which earns her gratitude]]). gratitude.]]) Presumably, [[{{Superdickery}} the comic was from Silver Age DC]].
19th Jan '18 6:01:02 AM Cryoclaste
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* Happened numerous times in ''Series/TheOuterLimits'' and other supernatural anthology shows, typically involving someone trying to avoid their death at a given time/date, but learning that he was supposed to die a little while later.

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* Happened numerous times in ''Series/TheOuterLimits'' ''Series/{{The Outer Limits|1963}}'' and other supernatural anthology shows, typically involving someone trying to avoid their death at a given time/date, but learning that he was supposed to die a little while later.
6th Jan '18 10:54:56 AM Quanyails
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Actively trying to [[SelfFulfillingProphecy bring about]] or [[ScrewDestiny defy]] the Force Vision [[ProphecyTwist rarely ever ends well,]] specifically because The Force tends to show only a part of what will happen, not what leads up to it or the result, and that's not if The Force doesn't outright lie.

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*** Actively trying to [[SelfFulfillingProphecy bring about]] or [[ScrewDestiny defy]] the Force Vision [[ProphecyTwist rarely ever ends well,]] specifically because The Force tends to show only a part of what will happen, not what leads up to it or the result, and that's not if The Force doesn't outright lie.
24th Nov '17 3:40:54 AM captainspycrab
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* ''[[Videogame/TheJourneymanProject The Journeyman Project III: Legacy of Time.]]'' The El Dorado fragment of the titular Legacy gives the city's shaman precognitive abilities, which are usually scarily accurate to the point that some of the city's Nazca-esque line art (in the first millennium AD) depicts the exact logo of your 24th-century top secret TimePolice organization. However, one particular prophecy he receives apparently shows a nearby farm boy using the legacy fragment to stop the Two Brothers (actually the alien species Cyrollan and Qo'Thalas) from destroying the city; actually he's seeing the player character, disguised as the boy, retrieving the fragment and bringing it back to the future to stop them from destroying the Earth. El Dorado, on the other hand, is utterly destroyed in the crossfire the very night after the player leaves.
8th Nov '17 5:22:43 AM TitaniumDragon
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* ''MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' features this in "It's About Time", when future!Twilight comes back in time to warn past!Twilight about something, but gets cut off before she can explain what she was warning against. Twilight spends the next week freaking out because her future self looked pretty rough. [[spoiler: Turns out that she looked rough because she had spent all week freaking out, and when she finally found the time travel spell, goes back in time in a vain attempt to warn herself not to worry about what is going to happen.]]
4th Nov '17 11:33:55 PM captainspycrab
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* ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure'': The Stand Thoth is a comic book that shows the future, and just like its user Boingo says, its predictions are ''never'' wrong; however, when they come true, they do so in an extremely convoluted way that ends up having the opposite effect of what Boingo and his allies expect. It's appeared twice so far:
** The first time it appeared, it predicted that Boingo's brother Oingo would plant a bomb disguised as an orange in the Joestar company's car, and when it went off, it would split Jotaro's face in half. When Oingo went to plant the bomb, the Joestar group returned earlier than expected, forcing Oingo to disguise himself as Jotaro[[note]]the only member of the group not present at the time[[/note]]. Forced to enter the car with them to maintain his cover, Oingo tossed the bomb-orange out the window, but Iggy retrieved it. Oingo then claimed he needed a bathroom break and took the opportunity to flee, but Polnareff noticed that the bomb-orange had been in Iggy's mouth and tossed it out the window, whereupon it landed directly beneath the feet of Oingo, still disguised as Jotaro. One guess what happened to him.
** The second time, it predicted that if [[TheGunslinger Hol Horse]] fired his gun down an open pipe, the bullets would ricochet out the other end and hit Jotaro in the face at exactly noon. Horse complied with the prediction, but Jotaro moved out of the way just in time, and the bullets ricocheted off a building and passed through ''the picture of Jotaro in Thoth itself,'' and Horse's head behind it.
22nd Oct '17 12:48:47 AM ImpudentInfidel
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** The ones relating directly to her family tend to be extremely straightforward, like "at this date and time avoid a falling brick". There's also a clear prophesy that the pair above will fall in love and have sex while working on the problem (with lots of "encouraging" commentary from generations in between in the notes); the non-descendent is rather disturbed to learn this.
22nd Oct '17 12:30:04 AM ImpudentInfidel
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* ''Film/{{Willow}}'' sees the [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen evil Queen]] Bavmorda come across the prophecy of a child bearing a mark, who will lead to her destruction. Naturally, she scours the land capturing all pregnant women in search for this child. When Elora Dannan is born, all those people who have heard of the prophecy rally to protect the newborn so she can fulfill her destiny... accidentally bringing together a force that can storm Bavmorda's castle, while the queen herself is destroyed by the very spell she intended to kill baby Elora with.

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* ''Film/{{Willow}}'' sees the [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen evil Queen]] Bavmorda come across the prophecy of a child bearing a mark, who will lead to her destruction. Naturally, she scours the land capturing all pregnant women in search for this child. When Elora Dannan is born, all those people who have heard of the prophecy rally to protect the newborn so she can fulfill her destiny... accidentally bringing together a force that can storm Bavmorda's castle, while the queen herself is destroyed by the very spell she intended to kill baby Elora with. In the ([[BrokenBase divisive]]) sequel novel series ''Chronicles of the Shadow War'' this leads to all sorts of problems when she grows up as TheChosenOne who's already done what she was Chosen to do (it involves alternate timelines and inter-dimensional travel).
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