History Main / PropheticFallacy

15th Mar '17 7:37:49 PM AthenaBlue
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* Happens in ''WesternAnimation/KimPossible'' with a prophecy about how the leader of the monkey ninjas will be unstoppable. At the end of the episode the prophecy spirit rather sheepishly shows up to explain to the disgruntled monkey ninjas that due to a typo he actually meant something else ([[spoiler:[[SideKick Ron Stoppable]]]]).


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* Happens in ''WesternAnimation/KimPossible'' with a prophecy about how the leader of the monkey ninjas will be unstoppable. At the end of the episode the prophecy spirit rather sheepishly shows up to explain to the disgruntled monkey ninjas that due to a typo he actually meant something else ([[spoiler:[[SideKick Ron Stoppable]]]]).


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* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'': In [[Recap/StarWarsRebelsS1E10VisionOfHope "Vision of Hope"]], Ezra has a Force vision of himself meeting [[VoiceOfTheResistance Senator-in-exile Gall Trayvis]], who says he knew Ezra's parents. Kanan warns him that he may be seeing what he wants to see, but Ezra blows him off. It turns out [[spoiler:Trayvis is TheMole, and he didn't actually know Ezra's parents, he'd only heard of them.]]


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20th Jan '17 10:40:53 AM Morgenthaler
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* In the trilogy ''MemorySorrowAndThorn'' by Creator/TadWilliams, a prophecy speaks about three swords that have to be united, so the early can resist against the late. This is interpreted by the protagonists that they have to [[GottaCatchThemAll get all three swords]] to resist the undead Storm King. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, no one remembered the fact that the elves lived in the world ''before'' the humans arrived]]. Or, for that matter, that the prophecy was written by a servant/victim of the BigBad.

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* In the trilogy ''MemorySorrowAndThorn'' ''Literature/MemorySorrowAndThorn'' by Creator/TadWilliams, a prophecy speaks about three swords that have to be united, so the early can resist against the late. This is interpreted by the protagonists that they have to [[GottaCatchThemAll get all three swords]] to resist the undead Storm King. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, no one remembered the fact that the elves lived in the world ''before'' the humans arrived]]. Or, for that matter, that the prophecy was written by a servant/victim of the BigBad.
8th Jan '17 12:37:27 PM nombretomado
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* In the graphic novel ''ComicBook/TopTen-- The Forty-Niners'', two characters see part of a newspaper headline from the future that suggests Nazis have taken over America. However, the headline is later shown in full and revealed to be celebrating the Nazis' ''failure''.

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* In the graphic novel ''ComicBook/TopTen-- ''ComicBook/TopTen -- The Forty-Niners'', two characters see part of a newspaper headline from the future that suggests Nazis have taken over America. However, the headline is later shown in full and revealed to be celebrating the Nazis' ''failure''.
8th Jan '17 12:37:21 PM nombretomado
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* In the graphic novel ''TopTen -- The Forty-Niners'', two characters see part of a newspaper headline from the future that suggests Nazis have taken over America. However, the headline is later shown in full and revealed to be celebrating the Nazis' ''failure''.

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* In the graphic novel ''TopTen -- ''ComicBook/TopTen-- The Forty-Niners'', two characters see part of a newspaper headline from the future that suggests Nazis have taken over America. However, the headline is later shown in full and revealed to be celebrating the Nazis' ''failure''.
21st Dec '16 12:01:02 AM Xtifr
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* In ''[[Literature/ChroniclesOfPrydain The High King]]'', when the sword Dyrnwyn is stolen, the main characters get two prophecies about regaining the sword[[note]]"Ask, sooner, mute stone and voiceless rock to speak", and "Quenched will be Dyrnwyn's flame;/Vanished, its power./Night turn to noon/And rivers burn with frozen fire/Ere Dyrnwyn be regained"[[/note]]. They interpret them as meaning "Ain't gonna happen"; it's actually a reasonably literal chronicle of events leading up to the sword's recovery.

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* In ''[[Literature/ChroniclesOfPrydain ''[[Literature/TheChroniclesOfPrydain The High King]]'', when the sword Dyrnwyn is stolen, the main characters get two prophecies about regaining the sword[[note]]"Ask, sooner, mute stone and voiceless rock to speak", and "Quenched will be Dyrnwyn's flame;/Vanished, its power./Night turn to noon/And rivers burn with frozen fire/Ere Dyrnwyn be regained"[[/note]]. They interpret them as meaning "Ain't gonna happen"; it's actually a reasonably literal chronicle of events leading up to the sword's recovery.
21st Nov '16 8:22:26 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''[[LittleBigAdventure Little Big Adventure II/Twinsen's Odyssey]]'' has an old prophecy hijacked by a character who removed the final part of it, since it predicted the downfall of a deity he was impersonating. Naturally, his actions eventually made the full version of the prophecy self-fulfilling (and it ''did'' turn out to be true in the end).

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* ''[[LittleBigAdventure ''[[VideoGame/LittleBigAdventure Little Big Adventure II/Twinsen's Odyssey]]'' has an old prophecy hijacked by a character who removed the final part of it, since it predicted the downfall of a deity he was impersonating. Naturally, his actions eventually made the full version of the prophecy self-fulfilling (and it ''did'' turn out to be true in the end).



* In ''TheLastDaysOfFOXHOUND'', Vulcan Raven, having the gift of future sight, is puzzled when he is unable to see past his upcoming encounter with Solid Snake. Somewhat inverted when, near the end, he guesses that the reason he can't see past that point is that he will die in that battle. Since the webcomic is based off of the game VideoGame/MetalGearSolid and Raven had a role as a simple boss and only appeared in that one game, [[DoomedByCanon one can guess how this prophecy plays out]].

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* In ''TheLastDaysOfFOXHOUND'', ''Webcomic/TheLastDaysOfFOXHOUND'', Vulcan Raven, having the gift of future sight, is puzzled when he is unable to see past his upcoming encounter with Solid Snake. Somewhat inverted when, near the end, he guesses that the reason he can't see past that point is that he will die in that battle. Since the webcomic is based off of the game VideoGame/MetalGearSolid and Raven had a role as a simple boss and only appeared in that one game, [[DoomedByCanon one can guess how this prophecy plays out]].



* In the CiemWebcomicSeries, Arfaas keeps trying to kill Candi because he believes "liPo" refers to "Flippo." It really means [[spoiler:library position]], so it ''[[RedHerringShirt actually]]'' referred to [[spoiler:Dolly]] the whole time! Worse, believing it to be Candi so long only resulted in him inadvertently motivating and giving ''[[EitherOrProphecy both]]'' of them the means to undo the Hebbleskin Gang!

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* In the CiemWebcomicSeries, ''Webcomic/CiemWebcomicSeries'', Arfaas keeps trying to kill Candi because he believes "liPo" refers to "Flippo." It really means [[spoiler:library position]], so it ''[[RedHerringShirt actually]]'' referred to [[spoiler:Dolly]] the whole time! Worse, believing it to be Candi so long only resulted in him inadvertently motivating and giving ''[[EitherOrProphecy both]]'' of them the means to undo the Hebbleskin Gang!
19th Sep '16 4:17:47 PM Celcey
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* Iroh from ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' had a vision when he was young that he'd be the one successfully claim the city of Ba Sing Se for the Fire Nation -- only to end the siege in his grief at his son's death. Years later, he finally did claim the city -- ''from'' the Fire Nation, in the name of the Earth Kingdom. As he says "Destiny is a funny thing".
** There's also the entirety of the Fortune Teller episode, which SEEMS to be leading this way. Everything she prophesises is either incredibly vague or self-fulfilling ("I'll meet my wife on the day I wear red shoes, so every day I wear red shoes!" type of self-fulfilling.) Then she makes a series of predictions that not only fly in the face of logic concerning the local about-to-erupt volcano, and everyone adopts a very laissez faire approach. It gets so bad that the Gaang has to fly up and literally rearrange the clouds to get her to change her prophecy, which FINALLY gets everyone off their asses, proving that her initial prediction was the wrong one.... The subversion, pointed out explicitly by her, is that it ended up that everything turned out literally as she predicted (the village itself was ''not'' destroyed by the volcano).

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* General Iroh from ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' had a vision when he was young that he'd be the one successfully claim conquer the Earth Kingdom city of Ba Sing Se for Se. He led the Fire Nation -- in a 600 day siege of the city, only to end the siege it in his grief at over his son's untimely death. Years later, he finally did claim conquered the city -- city- ''from'' the Fire Nation, in the name of the Earth Kingdom. As he says "Destiny says: destiny is a funny thing".
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** There's also the entirety of the Fortune Teller episode, which SEEMS to be leading this way. Everything she prophesises is either incredibly vague or self-fulfilling ("I'll meet my wife on the day I wear red shoes, so every day I wear red shoes!" type of self-fulfilling.) shoes!"). Then she makes a series of predictions that not only fly in the face of logic concerning the local about-to-erupt volcano, and everyone adopts a very laissez faire approach. It gets so bad that the Gaang has to fly up and literally rearrange the clouds to get her to change her prophecy, which FINALLY gets everyone off their asses, proving that her initial prediction was the wrong one....one. The subversion, pointed out explicitly by her, is that it ended up that everything turned out literally as she predicted (the village itself was ''not'' destroyed by the volcano).
26th Jul '16 4:30:57 PM nombretomado
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* In ''ArthurKingOfTimeAndSpace'', Merlin tells King Rience that if he attacks Arthur a great king will fall. [[AuthorCatchphrase You can't beat the classics]].

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* In ''ArthurKingOfTimeAndSpace'', ''Webcomic/ArthurKingOfTimeAndSpace'', Merlin tells King Rience that if he attacks Arthur a great king will fall. [[AuthorCatchphrase You can't beat the classics]].
15th Jul '16 6:47:43 AM Willbyr
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* ''[[SteinsGate Steins;Gate]]'' manages this despite the "prophecy" being something the protagonist ''[[TrickedOutTime saw with his own eyes.]]'' [[spoiler: Turns out "the female lead dies" was a red herring for the real fixed point in time: "the main character sees the female lead lying in a pool of blood, prompting him to send the text message that leads to the discovery of time travel."]]

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* ''[[SteinsGate Steins;Gate]]'' ''VisualNovel/SteinsGate'' manages this despite the "prophecy" being something the protagonist ''[[TrickedOutTime saw with his own eyes.]]'' [[spoiler: Turns out "the female lead dies" was a red herring for the real fixed point in time: "the main character sees the female lead lying in a pool of blood, prompting him to send the text message that leads to the discovery of time travel."]]



* In ''[[Anime/{{Naruto}} Naruto]]'', the Great Toad Sage from Mount Myoboku foresaw Jiraiya travelling the world, writing a book and being the master of someone who will bring a great change in the world, who which either save it or destroy it. Jiraiya would then have to make a difficult choice. And that choice will determine the fate of the world. Listening the prophecy, Jiraiya then travels the world, meets people, write a book and take various pupils: Nagato, Minato and Naruto. All three have the requirements to become the chosen one. Over the course of the story, Minato dies, Nagato takes the path of evil and then dies, leaving only Naruto to takes the role of the Chosen One, since he's the last pupil of Jiraya still alive.

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* In ''[[Anime/{{Naruto}} Naruto]]'', ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', the Great Toad Sage from Mount Myoboku foresaw Jiraiya travelling the world, writing a book and being the master of someone who will bring a great change in the world, who which either save it or destroy it. Jiraiya would then have to make a difficult choice. And that choice will determine the fate of the world. Listening the prophecy, Jiraiya then travels the world, meets people, write a book and take various pupils: Nagato, Minato and Naruto. All three have the requirements to become the chosen one. Over the course of the story, Minato dies, Nagato takes the path of evil and then dies, leaving only Naruto to takes the role of the Chosen One, since he's the last pupil of Jiraya still alive.
19th Jun '16 2:38:42 PM nombretomado
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* The ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'' "[[TheThrawnTrilogy Thrawn]]" trilogy has this kind of prophecy from the insane Jedi Master Joruus C'Baoth. He prophesied that Mara Jade would become his apprentice because he saw a vision of her [[KneelBeforeZod kneeling before him]]. Turns out that Mara "kneels" [[spoiler: in order to duck under C'Baoth's Force Lightning and chop him in half with her lightsaber.]]

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* The ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'' "[[TheThrawnTrilogy "[[Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy Thrawn]]" trilogy has this kind of prophecy from the insane Jedi Master Joruus C'Baoth. He prophesied that Mara Jade would become his apprentice because he saw a vision of her [[KneelBeforeZod kneeling before him]]. Turns out that Mara "kneels" [[spoiler: in order to duck under C'Baoth's Force Lightning and chop him in half with her lightsaber.]]
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