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26th May '16 8:47:06 PM PaulA
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* Creator/HarryTurtledove's fourth ''Tales Of The Fox'' story has a prophecy about "bronze and wood" that fools even the clever and well-educated Fox into thinking it just refers to chariots, but that's okay; it wasn't meant for him anyway, but for his son and his demigod houseguest, who puzzle out the true meaning just in time to save the Fox's army.

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* Creator/HarryTurtledove's fourth ''Tales Of The Fox'' ''Literature/TalesOfTheFox'' story has a prophecy about "bronze and wood" that fools even the clever and well-educated Fox into thinking it just refers to chariots, but that's okay; it wasn't meant for him anyway, but for his son and his demigod houseguest, who puzzle out the true meaning just in time to save the Fox's army.
24th Mar '16 10:06:17 AM Yagami1211
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* In ''[[Anime/{{Naruto}} Naruto]], the Great Toad Sage from Mount Myoboku foresaw Jiraiya travelling the world, writing a book, being the master of someone who will bring a great change in the world, he either save it or destroy it. Jiraiya would then have to make a difficult choice. And that choice will determine the fate of the world. Jiraiya then travels the world, meets people, write a book and take various pupils. Nagato, Minato and Naruto. All three have the requirements to become the chosen one. Over the course of the story, Minato dies, Nagato takes the path of evil and then dies, leaving only Naruto to takes the role of the Chosen One, since he's the last pupil of Jiraya still alive.

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* In ''[[Anime/{{Naruto}} Naruto]], Naruto]]'', the Great Toad Sage from Mount Myoboku foresaw Jiraiya travelling the world, writing a book, book and being the master of someone who will bring a great change in the world, he who which either save it or destroy it. Jiraiya would then have to make a difficult choice. And that choice will determine the fate of the world. Listening the prophecy, Jiraiya then travels the world, meets people, write a book and take various pupils. pupils: Nagato, Minato and Naruto. All three have the requirements to become the chosen one. Over the course of the story, Minato dies, Nagato takes the path of evil and then dies, leaving only Naruto to takes the role of the Chosen One, since he's the last pupil of Jiraya still alive.
24th Mar '16 10:04:30 AM Yagami1211
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* In ''[[Anime/{{Naruto}}]], the Great Toad Sage from Mount Myoboku foresaw Jiraiya travelling the world, writing a book, being the master of someone who will bring a great change in the world, he either save it or destroy it. Jiraiya would then have to make a difficult choice. And that choice will determine the fate of the world. Jiraiya then travels the world, meets people, write a book and take various pupils. Nagato, Minato and Naruto. All three have the requirements to become the chosen one. Over the course of the story, Minato dies, Nagato takes the path of evil and then dies, leaving only Naruto to takes the role of the Chosen One, since he's the last pupil of Jiraya still alive.

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* In ''[[Anime/{{Naruto}}]], ''[[Anime/{{Naruto}} Naruto]], the Great Toad Sage from Mount Myoboku foresaw Jiraiya travelling the world, writing a book, being the master of someone who will bring a great change in the world, he either save it or destroy it. Jiraiya would then have to make a difficult choice. And that choice will determine the fate of the world. Jiraiya then travels the world, meets people, write a book and take various pupils. Nagato, Minato and Naruto. All three have the requirements to become the chosen one. Over the course of the story, Minato dies, Nagato takes the path of evil and then dies, leaving only Naruto to takes the role of the Chosen One, since he's the last pupil of Jiraya still alive.
24th Mar '16 10:04:04 AM Yagami1211
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* In ''[[Anime/{{Naruto}}]], the Great Toad Sage from Mount Myoboku foresaw Jiraiya travelling the world, writing a book, being the master of someone who will bring a great change in the world, he either save it or destroy it. Jiraiya would then have to make a difficult choice. And that choice will determine the fate of the world. Jiraiya then travels the world, meets people, write a book and take various pupils. Nagato, Minato and Naruto. All three have the requirements to become the chosen one. Over the course of the story, Minato dies, Nagato takes the path of evil and then dies, leaving only Naruto to takes the role of the Chosen One, since he's the last pupil of Jiraya still alive.
1st Feb '16 6:20:53 PM nombretomado
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* In the trilogy ''MemorySorrowAndThorn'' by TadWilliams, a prophecy speaks about three swords that have to be united, so the early can resist against the late. This is interpreted by the protagonists that they have to [[GottaCatchThemAll get all three swords]] to resist the undead Storm King. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, no one remembered the fact that the elves lived in the world ''before'' the humans arrived]]. Or, for that matter, that the prophecy was written by a servant/victim of the BigBad.

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* In the trilogy ''MemorySorrowAndThorn'' by TadWilliams, Creator/TadWilliams, a prophecy speaks about three swords that have to be united, so the early can resist against the late. This is interpreted by the protagonists that they have to [[GottaCatchThemAll get all three swords]] to resist the undead Storm King. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, no one remembered the fact that the elves lived in the world ''before'' the humans arrived]]. Or, for that matter, that the prophecy was written by a servant/victim of the BigBad.
1st Feb '16 7:30:19 AM ErikModi
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** Anakin's own visions of Padme's death in childbirth count. They showed exactly what would happen if Anakin became obsessed with ''stopping'' exactly that event and turned to the Dark Side. Said visions may have been influenced by Palpatine for exactly that effect.
8th Jan '16 9:31:02 PM UltramarineAlizarin
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* In part 3 of ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'', the Stand called Thoth is a comic book that shows predictions of the future. When they aren't subject to ProphecyTwist, this happens instead. For instance, the villains see a prediction of the protagonists drinking poisoned tea, which does happen. [[spoiler:But the prediction didn't show that they would [[SpitTake spit it back out]] when Iggy startles them]]. Later, while working with Boingo, Hol Horse questions several prophecies that require unusual actions (e.g. kicking an innocent woman in the back) because they don't immediately show what benefit they reap ([[spoiler:it kills a scorpion hiding in her clothes and earns her gratitude]]). Presumably, [[{{Superdickery}} the comic was from Silver Age DC]].

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* In part 3 of ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'', the Stand called Thoth is a comic book that shows predictions of the future. When they aren't subject to ProphecyTwist, this happens instead. For instance, the villains see a prediction of the protagonists drinking poisoned tea, which does happen. [[spoiler:But ([[spoiler:But the prediction didn't show that they would [[SpitTake spit it back out]] out when Iggy startles them]]. them.]]) Later, while Hol Horse is working with Boingo, Hol Horse questions several prophecies Boingo and insists that require unusual actions (e.g. kicking he'd [[WouldntHitAGirl never kick an innocent woman in woman]] even if the back) because they don't immediately show what benefit they reap ([[spoiler:it book shows it. ([[spoiler:When he does, it kills a scorpion hiding in her clothes and earns her gratitude]]). Presumably, [[{{Superdickery}} the comic was from Silver Age DC]].
4th Jan '16 2:12:00 PM nombretomado
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* In the 1997 version of ''PrinceValiant'', the bad guys steal Excalibur, but in their base, the sword embeds itself into the floor. Morgan le Fay orders her MagicMirror to show them a person worthy of pulling the sword out besides King Arthur. It shows what appears to be Sir Gawain, so they try to kidnap him and force him to pull it out. Naturally, the mirror had shown Prince Valiant in Sir Gawain's armor.

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* In the 1997 version of ''PrinceValiant'', ''ComicStrip/PrinceValiant'', the bad guys steal Excalibur, but in their base, the sword embeds itself into the floor. Morgan le Fay orders her MagicMirror to show them a person worthy of pulling the sword out besides King Arthur. It shows what appears to be Sir Gawain, so they try to kidnap him and force him to pull it out. Naturally, the mirror had shown Prince Valiant in Sir Gawain's armor.
18th Nov '15 8:23:21 PM Phys101
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* In the ''Franchise/StarWars'' prequels, the Jedi Council is beginning to suspect that they have misunderstood the prophecy that someone would come to bring balance to The Force. The prophecy omitted all details of what bringing balance to The Force would entail.



* In Creator/WilliamShakespeare's ''Theatre/{{Macbeth}}'', the witches prophecise that Macbeth [[NoManOfWomanBorn 'need fear none of woman borne']]. Macbeth is eventually killed in battle by Macduff, a man born by caesarean section.

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* In Creator/WilliamShakespeare's ''Theatre/{{Macbeth}}'', the witches prophecise that Macbeth [[NoManOfWomanBorn 'need fear none of woman borne']]. Macbeth is eventually killed in battle by Macduff, a man born by caesarean section. The trope is downplayed in that the prophet is himself a hint of the prophecy twist: a bloody child.


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* In OedipusRex, Oedipus was prophesied to "Kill his father and marry his mother." Consequently, Oedipus left his family and his city to wander the world. In the process, he did kill his father and marry his mother in unrelated events. The prophecy omitted critical information about the events of the prophecy. (Any vision of the events would have seen beyond the bare statement of the prophecy, which naturally implies immediate connection between the two events.)
6th Nov '15 5:46:43 PM nombretomado
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* In ''RaveMaster'', a seer sees Haru (hero) stabbing Elie (heroine) with his sword. Turn out, Elie's magic was going to go crazy and Haru activated the next form of his sword that can cut magic but nothing of substance, thus sealing her nearly-rampaging magic and saving everyone. After this, he waves the sword through his arms a few times to demonstrate.

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* In ''RaveMaster'', ''Manga/RaveMaster'', a seer sees Haru (hero) stabbing Elie (heroine) with his sword. Turn out, Elie's magic was going to go crazy and Haru activated the next form of his sword that can cut magic but nothing of substance, thus sealing her nearly-rampaging magic and saving everyone. After this, he waves the sword through his arms a few times to demonstrate.
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