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26th Jul '16 4:30:57 PM nombretomado
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* In ''ArthurKingOfTimeAndSpace'', Merlin tells King Rience that if he attacks Arthur a great king will fall. [[AuthorCatchphrase You can't beat the classics]].

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* In ''ArthurKingOfTimeAndSpace'', ''Webcomic/ArthurKingOfTimeAndSpace'', Merlin tells King Rience that if he attacks Arthur a great king will fall. [[AuthorCatchphrase You can't beat the classics]].
15th Jul '16 6:47:43 AM Willbyr
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* ''[[SteinsGate Steins;Gate]]'' manages this despite the "prophecy" being something the protagonist ''[[TrickedOutTime saw with his own eyes.]]'' [[spoiler: Turns out "the female lead dies" was a red herring for the real fixed point in time: "the main character sees the female lead lying in a pool of blood, prompting him to send the text message that leads to the discovery of time travel."]]

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* ''[[SteinsGate Steins;Gate]]'' ''VisualNovel/SteinsGate'' manages this despite the "prophecy" being something the protagonist ''[[TrickedOutTime saw with his own eyes.]]'' [[spoiler: Turns out "the female lead dies" was a red herring for the real fixed point in time: "the main character sees the female lead lying in a pool of blood, prompting him to send the text message that leads to the discovery of time travel."]]



* In ''[[Anime/{{Naruto}} Naruto]]'', the Great Toad Sage from Mount Myoboku foresaw Jiraiya travelling the world, writing a book and being the master of someone who will bring a great change in the world, who which either save it or destroy it. Jiraiya would then have to make a difficult choice. And that choice will determine the fate of the world. Listening the prophecy, Jiraiya then travels the world, meets people, write a book and take various pupils: Nagato, Minato and Naruto. All three have the requirements to become the chosen one. Over the course of the story, Minato dies, Nagato takes the path of evil and then dies, leaving only Naruto to takes the role of the Chosen One, since he's the last pupil of Jiraya still alive.

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* In ''[[Anime/{{Naruto}} Naruto]]'', ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', the Great Toad Sage from Mount Myoboku foresaw Jiraiya travelling the world, writing a book and being the master of someone who will bring a great change in the world, who which either save it or destroy it. Jiraiya would then have to make a difficult choice. And that choice will determine the fate of the world. Listening the prophecy, Jiraiya then travels the world, meets people, write a book and take various pupils: Nagato, Minato and Naruto. All three have the requirements to become the chosen one. Over the course of the story, Minato dies, Nagato takes the path of evil and then dies, leaving only Naruto to takes the role of the Chosen One, since he's the last pupil of Jiraya still alive.
19th Jun '16 2:38:42 PM nombretomado
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* The ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'' "[[TheThrawnTrilogy Thrawn]]" trilogy has this kind of prophecy from the insane Jedi Master Joruus C'Baoth. He prophesied that Mara Jade would become his apprentice because he saw a vision of her [[KneelBeforeZod kneeling before him]]. Turns out that Mara "kneels" [[spoiler: in order to duck under C'Baoth's Force Lightning and chop him in half with her lightsaber.]]

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* The ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'' "[[TheThrawnTrilogy "[[Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy Thrawn]]" trilogy has this kind of prophecy from the insane Jedi Master Joruus C'Baoth. He prophesied that Mara Jade would become his apprentice because he saw a vision of her [[KneelBeforeZod kneeling before him]]. Turns out that Mara "kneels" [[spoiler: in order to duck under C'Baoth's Force Lightning and chop him in half with her lightsaber.]]
26th May '16 8:47:06 PM PaulA
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* Creator/HarryTurtledove's fourth ''Tales Of The Fox'' story has a prophecy about "bronze and wood" that fools even the clever and well-educated Fox into thinking it just refers to chariots, but that's okay; it wasn't meant for him anyway, but for his son and his demigod houseguest, who puzzle out the true meaning just in time to save the Fox's army.

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* Creator/HarryTurtledove's fourth ''Tales Of The Fox'' ''Literature/TalesOfTheFox'' story has a prophecy about "bronze and wood" that fools even the clever and well-educated Fox into thinking it just refers to chariots, but that's okay; it wasn't meant for him anyway, but for his son and his demigod houseguest, who puzzle out the true meaning just in time to save the Fox's army.
24th Mar '16 10:06:17 AM Yagami1211
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* In ''[[Anime/{{Naruto}} Naruto]], the Great Toad Sage from Mount Myoboku foresaw Jiraiya travelling the world, writing a book, being the master of someone who will bring a great change in the world, he either save it or destroy it. Jiraiya would then have to make a difficult choice. And that choice will determine the fate of the world. Jiraiya then travels the world, meets people, write a book and take various pupils. Nagato, Minato and Naruto. All three have the requirements to become the chosen one. Over the course of the story, Minato dies, Nagato takes the path of evil and then dies, leaving only Naruto to takes the role of the Chosen One, since he's the last pupil of Jiraya still alive.

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* In ''[[Anime/{{Naruto}} Naruto]], Naruto]]'', the Great Toad Sage from Mount Myoboku foresaw Jiraiya travelling the world, writing a book, book and being the master of someone who will bring a great change in the world, he who which either save it or destroy it. Jiraiya would then have to make a difficult choice. And that choice will determine the fate of the world. Listening the prophecy, Jiraiya then travels the world, meets people, write a book and take various pupils. pupils: Nagato, Minato and Naruto. All three have the requirements to become the chosen one. Over the course of the story, Minato dies, Nagato takes the path of evil and then dies, leaving only Naruto to takes the role of the Chosen One, since he's the last pupil of Jiraya still alive.
24th Mar '16 10:04:30 AM Yagami1211
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* In ''[[Anime/{{Naruto}}]], the Great Toad Sage from Mount Myoboku foresaw Jiraiya travelling the world, writing a book, being the master of someone who will bring a great change in the world, he either save it or destroy it. Jiraiya would then have to make a difficult choice. And that choice will determine the fate of the world. Jiraiya then travels the world, meets people, write a book and take various pupils. Nagato, Minato and Naruto. All three have the requirements to become the chosen one. Over the course of the story, Minato dies, Nagato takes the path of evil and then dies, leaving only Naruto to takes the role of the Chosen One, since he's the last pupil of Jiraya still alive.

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* In ''[[Anime/{{Naruto}}]], ''[[Anime/{{Naruto}} Naruto]], the Great Toad Sage from Mount Myoboku foresaw Jiraiya travelling the world, writing a book, being the master of someone who will bring a great change in the world, he either save it or destroy it. Jiraiya would then have to make a difficult choice. And that choice will determine the fate of the world. Jiraiya then travels the world, meets people, write a book and take various pupils. Nagato, Minato and Naruto. All three have the requirements to become the chosen one. Over the course of the story, Minato dies, Nagato takes the path of evil and then dies, leaving only Naruto to takes the role of the Chosen One, since he's the last pupil of Jiraya still alive.
24th Mar '16 10:04:04 AM Yagami1211
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* In ''[[Anime/{{Naruto}}]], the Great Toad Sage from Mount Myoboku foresaw Jiraiya travelling the world, writing a book, being the master of someone who will bring a great change in the world, he either save it or destroy it. Jiraiya would then have to make a difficult choice. And that choice will determine the fate of the world. Jiraiya then travels the world, meets people, write a book and take various pupils. Nagato, Minato and Naruto. All three have the requirements to become the chosen one. Over the course of the story, Minato dies, Nagato takes the path of evil and then dies, leaving only Naruto to takes the role of the Chosen One, since he's the last pupil of Jiraya still alive.
1st Feb '16 6:20:53 PM nombretomado
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* In the trilogy ''MemorySorrowAndThorn'' by TadWilliams, a prophecy speaks about three swords that have to be united, so the early can resist against the late. This is interpreted by the protagonists that they have to [[GottaCatchThemAll get all three swords]] to resist the undead Storm King. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, no one remembered the fact that the elves lived in the world ''before'' the humans arrived]]. Or, for that matter, that the prophecy was written by a servant/victim of the BigBad.

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* In the trilogy ''MemorySorrowAndThorn'' by TadWilliams, Creator/TadWilliams, a prophecy speaks about three swords that have to be united, so the early can resist against the late. This is interpreted by the protagonists that they have to [[GottaCatchThemAll get all three swords]] to resist the undead Storm King. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, no one remembered the fact that the elves lived in the world ''before'' the humans arrived]]. Or, for that matter, that the prophecy was written by a servant/victim of the BigBad.
1st Feb '16 7:30:19 AM ErikModi
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** Anakin's own visions of Padme's death in childbirth count. They showed exactly what would happen if Anakin became obsessed with ''stopping'' exactly that event and turned to the Dark Side. Said visions may have been influenced by Palpatine for exactly that effect.
8th Jan '16 9:31:02 PM UltramarineAlizarin
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* In part 3 of ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'', the Stand called Thoth is a comic book that shows predictions of the future. When they aren't subject to ProphecyTwist, this happens instead. For instance, the villains see a prediction of the protagonists drinking poisoned tea, which does happen. [[spoiler:But the prediction didn't show that they would [[SpitTake spit it back out]] when Iggy startles them]]. Later, while working with Boingo, Hol Horse questions several prophecies that require unusual actions (e.g. kicking an innocent woman in the back) because they don't immediately show what benefit they reap ([[spoiler:it kills a scorpion hiding in her clothes and earns her gratitude]]). Presumably, [[{{Superdickery}} the comic was from Silver Age DC]].

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* In part 3 of ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'', the Stand called Thoth is a comic book that shows predictions of the future. When they aren't subject to ProphecyTwist, this happens instead. For instance, the villains see a prediction of the protagonists drinking poisoned tea, which does happen. [[spoiler:But ([[spoiler:But the prediction didn't show that they would [[SpitTake spit it back out]] out when Iggy startles them]]. them.]]) Later, while Hol Horse is working with Boingo, Hol Horse questions several prophecies Boingo and insists that require unusual actions (e.g. kicking he'd [[WouldntHitAGirl never kick an innocent woman in woman]] even if the back) because they don't immediately show what benefit they reap ([[spoiler:it book shows it. ([[spoiler:When he does, it kills a scorpion hiding in her clothes and earns her gratitude]]). Presumably, [[{{Superdickery}} the comic was from Silver Age DC]].
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