History Main / PropagandaMachine

26th Jan '16 2:01:05 PM R1ck
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* Australian PR firm Crosby/Textor makes extensive use of [[DivideAndConquer wedge politics]] on behalf of its mostly [[StrawmanPolitical neo-conservative]] clients.
26th Jan '16 1:47:33 PM R1ck
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* If you believe Noam Chomsky then all media is part of a propaganda machine. The argument goes that all media is profit motivated and as such they are not particularly interested in defending freedom, they are interested in protecting their profit. The only reliable source of stories about governments comes from the governments themselves, and the little access they do get is revocable if they do bad things. Also, the owners of almost all media groups are rich, white men who have a a certain social agenda, and a personal relationship with the government and they can dictate who gets employed and what they write (or at least fire them if they do it the wrong way). So yeah. Add all of that up and it means that we only hear about what our various governments want us to hear about. Sure people complain about those stories, but that just helps to create the illusion. The idea is that in the end you can't even imagine that other bad things could be happening. Welcome to Airstrip One.
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* If you believe Noam Chomsky then all media is part of a propaganda machine. The argument goes that all media is profit motivated and as such they are not particularly interested in defending freedom, they are interested in protecting their profit. The only reliable source of stories about governments comes from the governments themselves, and the little access they do get is revocable if they do bad things. Also, the owners of almost all media groups are rich, white men who have a a certain social agenda, and a personal relationship with the government and they can dictate who gets employed and what they write (or at least fire them if they do it the wrong way). So yeah. Add all of that up and it means that we only hear about what our various governments want us to hear about. Sure people complain about those stories, but that just helps to create the illusion. The idea is that in the end you can't even imagine that other bad things could be happening. Welcome to Airstrip One.Well, that's the theory anyways. Decide for yourself if it's true or not.

** What makes Chomsky's theory even funnier is that he himself is a ''Creator/RussiaToday'' regular, [[DoubleStandard of all things]].
26th Dec '15 8:02:40 PM jormis29
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** ''Creator/RussiaToday'' News would count, as does ''Press TV'', which is the same but for Iran. This is one reason why one should always cross-check sources and examine who you are quoting in support of your position, lest you be [[MistakenForRacist mistaken for a shill for dictatorship.]]
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** ''Creator/RussiaToday'' News would count, as does ''Press TV'', ''Creator/PressTV'', which is the same but for Iran. This is one reason why one should always cross-check sources and examine who you are quoting in support of your position, lest you be [[MistakenForRacist mistaken for a shill for dictatorship.]]
26th Dec '15 5:50:42 PM VioletVisions
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* In East Germany under the socialist[[note]]What you Americans falsely refer to as "communist". Communism was the supposed political ideal for some far-off future, not the actual form of economic organisation.[[/note]] dictatorship, the government's control over the media was so absolute and the media therefore so mistrusted by the people, that the area in Saxony that couldn't receive West German radio and television (boosting those signals was what West Berlin was kept for, despite all the expense of supporting an island in enemy territory) and where it took a while for the smuggled West German newspapers to make their way to, was refered to as "the valley of the clueless". Of course, a lot of the West German media turned out to be propaganda, too - compare the Russian joke below.
8th Nov '15 11:06:03 AM nombretomado
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* ''RedVsBlue''. Apparently Command convinces the Reds to fight the Blue based on the information that "the Blues suck."
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* ''RedVsBlue''.''Machinima/RedVsBlue''. Apparently Command convinces the Reds to fight the Blue based on the information that "the Blues suck."
6th Nov '15 12:54:09 PM Saber15
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* The ''Xtended'' mod for ''[[Videogame/{{X}} X3: Terran Conflict]]'' introduces a BBS system for news stories and important messages. Each major faction - including the SpacePirates - have their own news network with [[StrawmanNewsMedia varying degrees of reliability]]. Split Family News is owned by the ruling Family Rhonkar and mostly dedicates itself to accusing the largely pacifistic Boron Kingdom of trying to destroy the Split Dynasty. The ConspiracyTheorist Solara News Network is accused of being a propaganda machine by the equally conspiracy-prone Terran Morning News, and both of the news networks often end up sabotaging their own empire's efforts in trade agreements and public outreach.
14th Oct '15 11:36:33 AM DDRMASTERM
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** Too much propaganda in Russia (and presumably elsewhere) wound up creating a huge backlash. As noted above, some people wound up believing the exact opposite of the official story. In cases where bad news did appear in the official media, many people believed far worse things have taken place--e.g. Chernobyl--and what little trust they had in competence of the government collapsed.
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** Too much propaganda in Russia (and presumably elsewhere) wound up creating a huge backlash. As noted above, some people wound up believing the exact opposite of the official story. In cases where bad news did appear in the official media, many people believed far worse things have taken place--e.g. Chernobyl--and UsefulNotes/{{Chernobyl}}--and what little trust they had in competence of the government collapsed.
11th Oct '15 7:48:42 AM Anddrix
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* In ''Film/TheHungerGamesMockingjayPart1'', Caesar Flickerman's airtime has fully devolved into this, given his "interviews" with Peeta in which the latter denounces violence and urges the districts to lay down their weapons. Though it's pretty clear that even he looks uncomfortable about it all.
10th Oct '15 6:43:09 PM jormis29
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* ''VideoGame/JustCause'': There's LITERAL Propaganda Machines (Trailers, actually) all over the place in the second game which you have to destroy; you can hear when one is nearby by the distinctive anthem they play, followed by [[BigBad Baby Panay's]] talking. Although his "Propaganda" doesn't seem so much "lying to the people that everything is fine", and more of apparently stroking his own ego:
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* ''VideoGame/JustCause'': ''VideoGame/JustCause2'': There's LITERAL Propaganda Machines (Trailers, actually) all over the place in the second game which you have to destroy; you can hear when one is nearby by the distinctive anthem they play, followed by [[BigBad Baby Panay's]] talking. Although his "Propaganda" doesn't seem so much "lying to the people that everything is fine", and more of apparently stroking his own ego:
10th Oct '15 6:37:20 PM jormis29
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* ''Videogame/BioshockInfinite'': The "Word Of The Prophet" kinetoscopes serve as this for Zachary Comstock's regime in the floating city of Columbia. Other examples include the "Duke Or Dimwitt?" puppets, and the huge amusement park "Soldier's Field" which subtly endorses children to enlist in the city's military regime.
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* ''Videogame/BioshockInfinite'': The "Word Of The Prophet" kinetoscopes serve as this for Zachary Comstock's regime in the floating city of Columbia. Other examples include the "Duke "[[RightWayWrongWayPair Duke Or Dimwitt?" Dimwitt?]]" puppets, and the huge amusement park "Soldier's Field" which subtly endorses children to enlist in the city's military regime.
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