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13th Nov '16 12:28:57 PM Angelus25
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* ''Series/BabylonFive''. Used to denigrate Sheridan and his alien allies during the reign of President Clark, so Susan Ivanova became the VoiceOfTheResistance to counter it.

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* ''Series/BabylonFive''. Used ''Series/BabylonFive'': ISN, co-opted by government puppets, is used to denigrate Sheridan and his alien allies during the reign dictatorship of President Clark, so Susan Ivanova became becomes the VoiceOfTheResistance to counter it.
6th Nov '16 5:50:44 AM JustKnown
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The machine exists to create {{Propaganda Piece}}s and habitually indulges in MaliciousSlander, AstroTurfing and DivideAndConquer toward its [[TheScapegoat scapegoats]] and enemies. CannedOrdersOverLoudspeaker is a common tool employed by the Propaganda Machine. They are opposed by the VoiceOfTheResistance. The PropagandaHero is its fictional or semi-fictional representative to it's own people while TokyoRose is their representative to the outside world.

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The machine exists to create {{Propaganda Piece}}s and habitually indulges in MaliciousSlander, AstroTurfing and DivideAndConquer toward its [[TheScapegoat scapegoats]] and enemies. CannedOrdersOverLoudspeaker is a common tool employed by the Propaganda Machine. They are opposed by the VoiceOfTheResistance. The PropagandaHero is its fictional or semi-fictional representative to it's own people while their carefully embellished national hero and TokyoRose is their representative to the outside world.
6th Nov '16 5:48:32 AM JustKnown
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The machine exists to create {{Propaganda Piece}}s and habitually indulges in MaliciousSlander, AstroTurfing and DivideAndConquer toward its [[TheScapegoat scapegoats]] and enemies. CannedOrdersOverLoudspeaker is a common tool employed by the Propaganda Machine. They are opposed by the VoiceOfTheResistance. TokyoRose is their representative to the outside world.

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The machine exists to create {{Propaganda Piece}}s and habitually indulges in MaliciousSlander, AstroTurfing and DivideAndConquer toward its [[TheScapegoat scapegoats]] and enemies. CannedOrdersOverLoudspeaker is a common tool employed by the Propaganda Machine. They are opposed by the VoiceOfTheResistance. The PropagandaHero is its fictional or semi-fictional representative to it's own people while TokyoRose is their representative to the outside world.
29th Oct '16 2:14:03 PM nombretomado
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* ''GuildWars'': The city of Ascalon was a real propaganda machine, trying to paint their foes (who were [[ForcedIntoEvil villians only by necessity]]) as mindless savages. Hiding the AwfulTruth that really their foes [[NotEvilJustMisunderstood aren't evil but rather misunderstood]] as they're a bit ticked off about having their homeland stolen.

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* ''GuildWars'': ''VideoGame/GuildWars'': The city of Ascalon was a real propaganda machine, trying to paint their foes (who were [[ForcedIntoEvil villians only by necessity]]) as mindless savages. Hiding the AwfulTruth that really their foes [[NotEvilJustMisunderstood aren't evil but rather misunderstood]] as they're a bit ticked off about having their homeland stolen.
22nd Oct '16 4:04:05 AM Morgenthaler
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* UsefulNotes/NaziGermany and Joseph Goebbels in particular.
** Goebbels has become so synonymous with propaganda that [[GodwinsLaw he's the go-to name]] when casting aspersions on someone for perceived propaganda tactics.

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* UsefulNotes/NaziGermany and Joseph Goebbels in particular.
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particular. Goebbels has become so synonymous with propaganda that [[GodwinsLaw he's the go-to name]] when casting aspersions on someone for perceived propaganda tactics.



* Stalin had Trotsky, Yezhov, and many, many others [[{{Unperson}} edited out]] of pictures, for starters; later Soviet premiers shied away from being ''quite'' as blatant, though the propaganda machine remained in place. The untrustworthy nature of the news sources at the time sparked a joke in the USSR spoken amongst those not prone to reporting people to the Central Committee: There is no Pravda ("truth") in ''Izvestia'', and there is no Izvestia ("news") in ''Pravda'' (or some variation thereof; both papers are still around, by the way, although they have become two remarkable cases of InNameOnly). Since people had to read between the lines to determine what actually happened (there being few to no real news alternatives depending on the circumstances, and open discussion being obviously dangerous), some Russians believed that America ''won'' [[TheVietnamWar in Vietnam]].
** Too much propaganda in Russia (and presumably elsewhere) wound up creating a huge backlash. As noted above, some people wound up believing the exact opposite of the official story. In cases where bad news did appear in the official media, many people believed far worse things have taken place--e.g. UsefulNotes/{{Chernobyl}}--and what little trust they had in competence of the government collapsed.
* In East Germany under the socialist[[note]]What you Americans falsely refer to as "communist". Communism was the supposed political ideal for some far-off future, not the actual form of economic organisation.[[/note]] dictatorship, the government's control over the media was so absolute and the media therefore so mistrusted by the people, that the area in Saxony that couldn't receive West German radio and television (boosting those signals was what West Berlin was kept for, despite all the expense of supporting an island in enemy territory) and where it took a while for the smuggled West German newspapers to make their way to, was refered to as "the valley of the clueless". Of course, a lot of the West German media turned out to be propaganda, too - compare the Russian joke below.

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* Stalin had Trotsky, Yezhov, and many, many others [[{{Unperson}} edited out]] of pictures, for starters; later Soviet premiers shied away from being ''quite'' as blatant, though the propaganda machine remained in place. The untrustworthy nature of the news sources at the time sparked a joke in the USSR spoken amongst those not prone to reporting people to the Central Committee: There is no Pravda ("truth") in ''Izvestia'', and there is no Izvestia ("news") in ''Pravda'' (or some variation thereof; both papers are still around, by the way, although they have become two remarkable cases of InNameOnly). Since people had to read between the lines to determine what actually happened (there being few to no real news alternatives depending on the circumstances, and open discussion being obviously dangerous), some Russians believed that America ''won'' [[TheVietnamWar in Vietnam]].
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Vietnam]]. Too much propaganda in Russia (and presumably elsewhere) wound up creating a huge backlash. As noted above, some people wound up believing the exact opposite of the official story. In cases where bad news did appear in the official media, many people believed far worse things have taken place--e.g. UsefulNotes/{{Chernobyl}}--and what little trust they had in competence of the government collapsed.
* In East Germany UsefulNotes/EastGermany under the socialist[[note]]What you Americans falsely refer to as "communist". Communism was the supposed political ideal for some far-off future, not the actual form of economic organisation.[[/note]] dictatorship, the government's control over the media was so absolute and the media therefore so mistrusted by the people, that the area in Saxony that couldn't receive West German radio and television (boosting those signals was what West Berlin was kept for, despite all the expense of supporting an island in enemy territory) and where it took a while for the smuggled West German newspapers to make their way to, was refered to as "the valley of the clueless". Of course, a lot of the West German media turned out to be propaganda, too - compare the Russian joke below.



* Almost any state media news organization in a dictatorship will get used in this way.
** ''Creator/RussiaToday'' News would count, as does ''Creator/PressTV'', which is the same but for Iran. This is one reason why one should always cross-check sources and examine who you are quoting in support of your position, lest you be [[MistakenForRacist mistaken for a shill for dictatorship.]]

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* Almost any state media news organization in a dictatorship will get used in this way.
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way. ''Creator/RussiaToday'' News would count, as does ''Creator/PressTV'', which is the same but for Iran. This is one reason why one should always cross-check sources and examine who you are quoting in support of your position, lest you be [[MistakenForRacist mistaken for a shill for dictatorship.]]
30th Aug '16 12:40:55 PM Morgenthaler
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* In ''MutantChronicles'' ,Bauhaus has its own department called the Ministry Of Truth which tells people what they want them to hear, mostly good things about their corporation, and bad news from the other mega corporation.

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* In ''MutantChronicles'' ,Bauhaus ''TabletopGame/MutantChronicles'', Bauhaus has its own department called the Ministry Of Truth which tells people what they want them to hear, mostly good things about their corporation, and bad news from the other mega corporation.
14th Aug '16 1:50:56 PM nombretomado
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* ''DoctorSteel'': Doctor Steel is a master of using propaganda and propagandic art to spread his Utopian Playland message, which his fans/followers (known as Toy Soldiers) happily disseminate. DoctorSteel is, in fact, the only mad dictator in the history of existence who can actually label his propaganda as "propaganda" and no one will care. Except perhaps [[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Dr. Insano]].

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* ''DoctorSteel'': ''Music/DoctorSteel'': Doctor Steel is a master of using propaganda and propagandic art to spread his Utopian Playland message, which his fans/followers (known as Toy Soldiers) happily disseminate. DoctorSteel Doctor Steel is, in fact, the only mad dictator in the history of existence who can actually label his propaganda as "propaganda" and no one will care. Except perhaps [[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Dr. Insano]].
15th Jul '16 9:08:25 AM Specialist290
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By its widest definition, just about every political entity practices propaganda; namely, making themselves look as good as possible while either downplaying or downright denying any good qualities in their opponents. The negative aspects of this trope come in when this is the only form of news someone has access to. It could be said that that the bad guys engage in "propaganda", while the good guys do "public relations". However, the VoiceOfTheResistance is likely considered propaganda by those who don't agree with them. How much of the content is truthful and how much isn't, as always, depends on who is producing it. Examples of this trope tend to be extreme cases where the preacher is using a combination of extreme censorship and/or outright lies to hammer their point across, so take note of the RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement.

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By its widest definition, just about every political entity practices propaganda; namely, making themselves look as good as possible while either downplaying or downright denying any good qualities in their opponents. The negative aspects of this trope come in when this is the only form of news someone has access to. It could be said that that the bad guys engage in "propaganda", while the good guys do "public relations". However, the VoiceOfTheResistance is likely considered propaganda [[YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters by those who don't agree with them.them]]. How much of the content is truthful and how much isn't, as always, depends on who is producing it. Examples of this trope tend to be extreme cases where the preacher is using a combination of extreme censorship and/or outright lies to hammer their point across, so take note of the RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement.
23rd Jun '16 3:43:31 PM zootsutra
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* Imperial Japan during World War II proved to be astounding bad at this.

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* Imperial Japan during World War II proved to be astounding astoundingly bad at this.
28th May '16 2:50:06 AM Morgenthaler
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* Squealer of ''AnimalFarm'' is a pig version of this.

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* Squealer of ''AnimalFarm'' ''Literature/AnimalFarm'' is a pig version of this.



* In ''ItCantHappenHere'', the fascist regime exerts rigid control over all media, reporting rose-colored news to the masses. The media leaves out inconvenient stories such as revolts against M.M.s, refugees fleeing to Canada, and global events. One of the tasks of the resistance is importing factual news from Canada and secretly disseminating it to citizens.

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* In ''ItCantHappenHere'', ''Literature/ItCantHappenHere'', the fascist regime exerts rigid control over all media, reporting rose-colored news to the masses. The media leaves out inconvenient stories such as revolts against M.M.s, refugees fleeing to Canada, and global events. One of the tasks of the resistance is importing factual news from Canada and secretly disseminating it to citizens.
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