random item

Troperville

Tools

Find recent edits by troper:

back to: Main / PrinceCaspian

edit article | go to discussion page

20th Mar '13 3:41:43 PM Xtifr

Send Xtifr a PM notification explaining the badness of natter: natter-fy

redirect to namespace

Changed line(s) 1,53 (click to see context) from:

[[quoteright:214:http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/MV5BMTIwOTA4NTE4Ml5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwOTI2NTg1MQ__V1__SY317_CR00214317__7241.jpg]]

The second installment in ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'' and the fourth book chronologically. A year after the events of ''[[TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe]]'', the four Pevensie siblings are summoned back to Narnia, where a thousand years have passed from the perspective of that world's relative time flow. Narnia has mostly been overrun by the descendants of an exiled group of pirates from Earth called the Telmarines (now ruled by the usurper [[Theatre/RichardIII Miraz]]), but the rightful heir, his nephew Caspian, has magically summoned Narnian help, receiving it in the form of the Pevensies. Once the Telmarines have been beaten back and Caspian proclaimed king, Peter and Susan are told they are now too old ever to return to Narnia.
----
!! This book provides examples of:
* ArbitrarySkepticism : In ''Prince Caspian'', Edmund is the only one to remember that Lucy was right about Narnia in the previous book, while Peter and Susan - who ought to know better - are reluctant to believe her when she says she's seen Aslan.
** Possibly an aspect of their (shudder) growing up.
** Thankfully averted in the film.
** Or not so thankfully, since it's averted by having Aslan DemotedToExtra. The BBC adaptation actually ''plays up'' the trope by having ''everyone'' ignore Lucy's advice.
* AwesomeMomentOfCrowning: Miraz, in the Walden Media film. And how! The soundtrack alone in that scene makes it worthy.
* BadassBeard: The Telmarines. It comes with the pirate territory.
* BadassBoast: Courtesy of the Werewolf, who gives us this: “I'm hunger. I'm thirst. Where I bite, I hold till I die, and even after death they must cut out my mouthful from my enemy's body and bury it with me. I can fast a hundred years and not die. I can lie a hundred nights on the ice and not freeze. I can drink a river of blood and not burst. Show me your enemies.”
* BadassLongcoat: Miraz sports one in the Walden Media film.
* BigBad: Miraz.
* CombatByChampion: Peter versus Miraz.
* CoolGate: "The Door in the Air" -- it leads wherever Aslan wants it to lead.
* DecapitatedArmy: Subverted. [[spoiler: Miraz's death doesn't lead to Telmarine surrender - in fact, the lords doctored his murder to look like he's been traitorously killed by Narnians and motivate the Telmarine army to fight]].
* DoesNotLikeShoes: After arriving in Narnia, Lucy and Edmund, despite being told it will be cold come the night and not knowing what they could come across, decide to explore barefoot for ''no reason at all''.
* FightingForSurvival: The various citizens of Narnia who help the Pevensies and Caspian.
* {{Herald}}: Caspian with Susan's horn
* ItWasAGift
* KickThemWhileTheyAreDown
* LegendaryInTheSequel: Played with. Thanks to NarniaTime, the characters and events of ''TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'' are regarded as legends or even FairyTales. The Pevensies' reappearance is compared to what it would be like if KingArthur returned to present-day Britain.
--> [[LemonyNarrator And I say the sooner the better.]]
* TheMasquerade: Old Narnians whom the Telmarines consider fairy tales live in hiding.
* [[MyMasterRightOrWrong My Master, Right Or Wrong]]: Glozelle.
* NarniaTime: The book lays out the remaining rules for this. While ''TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'' established the "time does not pass on Earth while you are in Narnia" rule, this is the book that codifies "while you are not in Narnia, ''any'' amount of time may pass in Narnia."
* AProtagonistShallLeadThem: The Pevensies.
* RageHelm: In the movie, the Telmarine armies.
** In the behind-the-scenes material, it is explained that the helmets were used to make the Telmarines look less human and thus make [[WhatMeasureIsAMook mowing down scores of them less morally questionable.]]
* ReversePsychology: How Miraz is goaded into accepting Peter's challenge even though it was to his advantage not to duel.
* SacredHospitality: Trufflehunter raises this point when he and the dwarves first take in Caspian.
* SparedByTheAdaptation: [[spoiler: Glozelle]].
* SecondaryCharacterTitle
* SiblingRivalry: Specifically between Susan and Lucy. Susan believes Aslan favors Lucy; Peter takes Susan's side in an important argument because she's older and talking logically, while Lucy's suggestion makes no (visible) sense. The film plays it up even more.
* SmugSnake: Miraz, mildly.
* TheStarscream: Glozelle and Sopespian. [[spoiler:The former gets a HeelFaceTurn in TheFilmOfTheBook]].
* SoWhatDoWeDoNow: At the beginning of the film, Peter in particular is none too happy to be a young teen dealing with stupid schoolboys again, as opposed to a full-grown man and a king
* SourSupporter: Trumpkin.
* SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome: All the Narnians from ''TheLionTheWitchAndTheWardrobe'' are dead... from old age... ''hundreds of years'' ago.
* {{Tearjerker}}: The Pevensies' sad realization that all their friends from the first book/movie are long gone.
** On that note, the ending of the castle fight scene. A bunch of Narnians are trapped in the castle, and as Peter looks back, he realizes one of Glenstorm's sons are trapped in the castle. The look on his face when he turns around is heartbreaking.
* ThrowingDownTheGauntlet: Peter issues a formally-worded challenge to Miraz.
* TooAwesomeToUse: Caspian is reluctant to use Susan's horn since there might be an even greater need for it in the future. Nikabrik points out that, by that argument, he will never use it until it is too late.
* TryToFitThatOnABusinessCard: The aforementioned challenge contains Peter's credentials, juxtaposed with Miraz's more meager ones. And a greeting.
** And then Peter throws in ''Edmund's'' laundry list of titles and credentials for good measure, just to rub it in.
* UnfriendlyFire: Miraz isn't killed by Peter, just knocked unconscious. A full-scale battle ensues, and a Telmarine MauveShirt the king insulted earlier [[CoupDeGrace finishes him off]].
* WhatMeasureIsAMook: The good-hearted prince of a [[TheEmpire rather evil empire]] is about to be disposed of by [[TheUsurper the evil uncle]] who [[YouKilledMyFather killed his father]] and took his throne, so he organizes a daring night raid to infiltrate the castle, kill the usurper in his bed, and retake the kingdom in a matter of minutes. [[IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim Just as he's about to pull the trigger]], his uncle [[YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame congratulates him on finally showing some spine, and being worthy of the throne he's about to take.]] [[ReversePsychology Horrified]], [[GoodIsDumb he aborts the entire operation]], risking all of their lives with a fighting retreat and wasting countless man-, woman-, and minotaur-hours of preparation and execution. This also leads directly to the final showdown, the deaths of many of Caspian's allies, and [[WhatMeasureIsAMook the decimation of an opposing army]] that was, [[MyCountryRightOrWrong for better or worse]], [[JustFollowingOrders just following the orders of their king]] (and likely [[YouHaveFailedMe facing execution for any disobedience]]). The RageHelm entry even mentions how they [[RedShirt deliberately dehumanized the Telmarine army]] to make the protagonists seem justified in causing hundreds of deaths by the act of sparing one tyrant. This is presented as having been the honorable way for Caspian to reclaim his throne, with the opening of the next movie deliberately illustrating how seamlessly Caspian took the reins and pacified the realm.
** Although see DecapitatedArmy above: There's no guarantee that assassinating Miraz will see everyone instantly accept Caspian and his Narnian allies as the new regime, especially with a couple of [[TheDragon Dragons]] [[DragonAscendant waiting to take his place]]. (It should be added all this only applies to the film: The book and BBC adaptation have a much simpler failed ambush where Caspian never has the opportunity to kill Miraz.)
* WhenTreesAttack
* WithDueRespect: Inverted: Trumpkin argues strongly against Caspian's plan and then volunteers to do the job he just argued against. He explains to the prince that having given advice, now it's time for him to take orders.
----

to:

16th Mar '13 2:07:53 AM skteosk

Send skteosk a PM notification explaining the badness of natter: natter-fy

Added line(s) 49 (click to see context) :

15th Mar '13 6:03:52 PM skteosk

Send skteosk a PM notification explaining the badness of natter: natter-fy

Added line(s) 9 (click to see context) :

12th Feb '13 9:00:15 AM skitzoid

Send skitzoid a PM notification explaining the badness of natter: natter-fy

Changed line(s) 18 (click to see context) from:

to:

3rd Feb '13 3:07:40 PM Tuckerscreator

Send Tuckerscreator a PM notification explaining the badness of natter: natter-fy

Changed line(s) 4 (click to see context) from:

to:

30th Jan '13 9:24:27 AM Canilever

Send Canilever a PM notification explaining the badness of natter: natter-fy

Changed line(s) 48 (click to see context) from:

* WhatMeasureIsAMook: The good-hearted prince of a [[TheEmpire rather evil empire]] is about to be disposed of by [[TheUsurper the evil uncle]] who [[YouKilledMyFather killed his father]] and took his throne, so he organizes a daring night raid to infiltrate the castle, kill the usurper in his bed, and retake the kingdom in a matter of minutes. [[IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim Just as he's about to pull the trigger]], his uncle [[YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame congratulates him on finally showing some spine, and being worthy of the throne he's about to take.]] [[ReversePsychology Horrified, he aborts the entire operation]], risking all of their lives with a fighting retreat and wasting countless man-, woman-, and minotaur-hours of preparation and execution. This also leads directly to the final showdown, the deaths of many of Caspian's allies, and [[WhatMeasureIsAMook the decimation of an opposing army]] that was, [[MyCountryRightOrWrong for better or worse]], [[JustFollowingOrders just following the orders of their king]] (and likely [[YouHaveFailedMe facing execution for any disobedience]]). The RageHelm entry even mentions how they [[RedShirt deliberately dehumanized the Telmarine army]] to make the protagonists seem justified in causing hundreds of deaths by the act of sparing one tyrant. This is presented as having been the honorable way for Caspian to reclaim his throne, with the opening of the next movie deliberately illustrating how seamlessly Caspian took the reins and pacified the realm.

to:

* WhatMeasureIsAMook: The good-hearted prince of a [[TheEmpire rather evil empire]] is about to be disposed of by [[TheUsurper the evil uncle]] who [[YouKilledMyFather killed his father]] and took his throne, so he organizes a daring night raid to infiltrate the castle, kill the usurper in his bed, and retake the kingdom in a matter of minutes. [[IfYouKillHimYouWillBeJustLikeHim Just as he's about to pull the trigger]], his uncle [[YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame congratulates him on finally showing some spine, and being worthy of the throne he's about to take.]] [[ReversePsychology Horrified]], [[GoodIsDumb he aborts the entire operation]], risking all of their lives with a fighting retreat and wasting countless man-, woman-, and minotaur-hours of preparation and execution. This also leads directly to the final showdown, the deaths of many of Caspian's allies, and [[WhatMeasureIsAMook the decimation of an opposing army]] that was, [[MyCountryRightOrWrong for better or worse]], [[JustFollowingOrders just following the orders of their king]] (and likely [[YouHaveFailedMe facing execution for any disobedience]]). The RageHelm entry even mentions how they [[RedShirt deliberately dehumanized the Telmarine army]] to make the protagonists seem justified in causing hundreds of deaths by the act of sparing one tyrant. This is presented as having been the honorable way for Caspian to reclaim his throne, with the opening of the next movie deliberately illustrating how seamlessly Caspian took the reins and pacified the realm.

29th Jan '13 6:45:25 AM Canilever

Send Canilever a PM notification explaining the badness of natter: natter-fy

Every time I watch this movie, I notice this even more.

Added line(s) 47 (click to see context) :

22nd Jan '13 9:14:24 AM appleleaf

Send appleleaf a PM notification explaining the badness of natter: natter-fy

Added line(s) 8 (click to see context) :

Deleted line(s) 17,18 (click to see context) :

17th Jan '13 8:38:45 AM skitzoid

Send skitzoid a PM notification explaining the badness of natter: natter-fy

Changed line(s) 19 (click to see context) from:

to: