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22nd Nov '16 12:21:29 AM narm00
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* Franchise/{{Batman}} has been known to have pride issues, especially as his paranoia have been played up more and more over the years by writers.

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* Franchise/{{Batman}} has been known to have pride issues, especially as his paranoia have has been played up more and more over the years by writers.



* Pride is the defining trait of Doctor Doom. The accident that damaged his face happened because he was too arrogant to believe Reed Richards had found an error in his calculations. The minor scar Doom received he saw as horribly disfiguring due to his vanity, and in desperation to hide it he ended up ''really'' messing his face up. He was unable to even admit to himself of his mistake in either instance. His supervillain-sized lust for power is rooted in his belief that he should be second to no one, particularly Richards. This is also why he always rebuffs others' attempts to rehabilitate him. He just can't accept the pity and sympathy of others.

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* Pride is the defining trait of Doctor Doom.ComicBook/DoctorDoom. The accident that damaged his face happened because he was too arrogant to believe Reed Richards had found an error in his calculations. The minor scar Doom received he saw as horribly disfiguring due to his vanity, and in desperation to hide it he ended up ''really'' messing his face up. He was unable to even admit to himself of his mistake in either instance. His supervillain-sized lust for power is rooted in his belief that he should be second to no one, particularly Richards. This is also why he always rebuffs others' attempts to rehabilitate him. He just can't accept the pity and sympathy of others.



** This is the most common reason given for the downfall of the Kryptonian civilization. They are often depicted as one of the most powerful races of their time, and the very idea of the destruction of their planet is unthinkable. This leads them to mock [[IgnoredExpert Jor El]] and his warnings, and as a result of their hubris, only ''[[Comicbook/{{Superman}} a]]'' ''[[Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} few]]'' ''[[ComicBook/KryptoTheSuperdog survive]]''.

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** This is the most common reason given for the downfall of the Kryptonian civilization. They are often depicted as one of the most powerful races of their time, and the very idea of the destruction of their planet is unthinkable. This leads them to mock [[IgnoredExpert Jor El]] and his warnings, and as a result of their hubris, only ''[[Comicbook/{{Superman}} ''[[Franchise/{{Superman}} a]]'' ''[[Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} few]]'' ''[[ComicBook/KryptoTheSuperdog survive]]''.



** The rest of the clan are also quite prone to this. Indeed, ''House of Tremere'' reveals that pride was the impetus for agreeing to the transformation in the vampires: they were so invested in [[UnequalRites the superiority of their own magic]], that they came to the conclusion that [[TheMagicGoesAway magic was actually dying]] simply because their means of immortality were failing them, and vampirism was the only means of continuing the House's existence; in reality, magic was simply ''changing.'' This hubris continues even into the 20th century: quite contrary to the clan belief that magic and all its practitioners would soon be extinct, [[TabletopGame/MageTheAscension the Order of Hermes]] still exists in the modern nights - but the Tremere will never admit or acknowledge it.

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** The rest of the clan are also quite prone to this. Indeed, ''House of Tremere'' reveals that pride was the Tremere's impetus for agreeing to the transformation in the vampires: transformation: they were so invested in [[UnequalRites the superiority of their own magic]], that they came to the conclusion that [[TheMagicGoesAway magic was actually dying]] simply because their means of immortality were failing them, and vampirism was the only means of continuing the House's existence; in reality, magic was simply ''changing.'' This hubris continues even into the 20th century: quite contrary to the clan belief that magic and all its practitioners would soon be extinct, [[TabletopGame/MageTheAscension the Order of Hermes]] still exists in the modern nights - but the Tremere will never admit or acknowledge it.



* Discussed in ''TabletopGame/{{Nobilis}}'' 3e, which cautions that while it's possible to become [[OddJobGods Noble]] by eating a Power's heart, making plans to do so would be an example of hubris and would probably come back to bite you on the butt, possibly in the form of a giant scorpion. Through ''Nobilis''' history, Lucifer has been the Imperator of Pride and Persuasion, which is to say that it is because Lucifer exists that Pride, as a thing in itself, does as well.

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* Discussed in ''TabletopGame/{{Nobilis}}'' 3e, which cautions that while it's possible to become [[OddJobGods Noble]] by eating a Power's heart, making plans to do so would be an example of hubris and would probably come back to bite you on the butt, possibly in the form of a giant scorpion.
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Through ''Nobilis''' history, Lucifer has been the Imperator of Pride and Persuasion, which is to say that it is because Lucifer exists that Pride, as a thing in itself, does as well.
31st Oct '16 10:03:29 AM Thesedaysthosedays
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* RobinHood stories tend to feature a trap set by the Sheriff of Nottingham in the form of an archery contest, as it is well known that Robin is the greatest archer in all the land. Robin is entirely aware of the nature of the trap, but generally goes anyway, because he has to prove he's the best.

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* RobinHood stories tend to feature a trap set by the Sheriff of Nottingham in the form of an archery contest, as it is well known that Robin is the greatest archer in all the land. Robin is entirely aware of the nature of the trap, [[TrapIsTheOnlyOption but generally goes anyway, anyway]], because he has to prove he's the best.
30th Oct '16 12:59:32 PM SimiOfDoom
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* In ''Literature/MalazanBookOfTheFallen'' High King Kallor is arrogant, prone to overestepping his bounds, and ''very'' touchy about insults to his person. And then there's the whole, "allowing a continent to die rather than relinquishing control of it" thing, and the obsession with power and becoming an Ascendant.
14th Sep '16 7:26:28 PM PaulA
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* In ''Shadow Puppets,'' one of the Literature/EndersGame sequels, Virlomi sets herself up as a [[AGodAmI holy woman/god on earth]] to lead a resistance movement in India against the Chinese occupation. After a long sequence of everything going right for her against rivals she knows are better than she is, she becomes convinced that she really is either divine or favored by the gods, and carelessly leads her army into an obvious trap.
** Later stories show just how much old Ma and Pa Wiggins manipulated their children because the pride of their children (especially Peter) was such there was no way their parents could have figured out they were world famous political Bloggers. ''Ender In Exile'' especially shows this with how they manipulate Peter to exile Ender and Valentine to join Ender. In Peter's case it takes him four books to even suspect his parents used him due to his own pride. This may be a {{retcon}}, however. If it is, it is one inspired by the fact that the reason (according to the Hegemony) that Peter, Val, and Ender are so smart to begin with is that their family has such an excellent genetic history of intelligence.

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* ''Literature/EndersGame'' series:
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In ''Shadow Puppets,'' one of the Literature/EndersGame sequels, ''Literature/ShadowPuppets'', Virlomi sets herself up as a [[AGodAmI holy woman/god on earth]] to lead a resistance movement in India against the Chinese occupation. After a long sequence of everything going right for her against rivals she knows are better than she is, she becomes convinced that she really is either divine or favored by the gods, and carelessly leads her army into an obvious trap.
** Later stories show just how much old Ma and Pa Wiggins manipulated their children because the pride of their children (especially Peter) was such there was no way their parents could have figured out they were world famous political Bloggers. ''Ender In Exile'' ''Literature/EnderInExile'' especially shows this with how they manipulate Peter to exile Ender and Valentine to join Ender. In Peter's case it takes him four books to even suspect his parents used him due to his own pride. This may be a {{retcon}}, however. If it is, it is one inspired by the fact that the reason (according to the Hegemony) that Peter, Val, and Ender are so smart to begin with is that their family has such an excellent genetic history of intelligence.
7th Sep '16 12:59:55 PM Tron80
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* This is the most common reason given for the downfall of the Kryptonian civilization. They are often depicted as one of the most powerful races of their time, and the very idea of the destruction of their planet is unthinkable. This leads them to mock [[IgnoredExpert Jor El]] and his warnings, and as a result of their hubris, only [[Comicbook/{{Superman}} a few]] [[Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} survive]].

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* Franchise/{{Superman}}:
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This is the most common reason given for the downfall of the Kryptonian civilization. They are often depicted as one of the most powerful races of their time, and the very idea of the destruction of their planet is unthinkable. This leads them to mock [[IgnoredExpert Jor El]] and his warnings, and as a result of their hubris, only [[Comicbook/{{Superman}} a few]] [[Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} survive]].''[[Comicbook/{{Superman}} a]]'' ''[[Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} few]]'' ''[[ComicBook/KryptoTheSuperdog survive]]''.



* To quote the [[Franchise/{{Superman}} Man of Steel]] himself. "[[ComicBook/LexLuthor Luthor]] is my greatest [[{{Archenemy}} enemy]]. Not because of his [[ManOfWealthAndTaste wealth.]] Not because of the [[Main/WeaponsAndWieldingTropes weaponry]] he creates. Not because of [[{{Greed}} greed]], not even because of [[EvilTropes evil]]. But because he cannot be '''humbled'''. [[{{ComicBook/Justice}} No matter what happens to him]]."

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* ** To quote the [[Franchise/{{Superman}} Man of Steel]] himself. "[[ComicBook/LexLuthor Luthor]] is my greatest [[{{Archenemy}} enemy]]. Not because of his [[ManOfWealthAndTaste wealth.]] Not because of the [[Main/WeaponsAndWieldingTropes weaponry]] he creates. Not because of [[{{Greed}} greed]], not even because of [[EvilTropes evil]]. But because he cannot be '''humbled'''. [[{{ComicBook/Justice}} No matter what happens to him]]."
7th Sep '16 12:55:58 PM Tron80
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** In ''Comicbook/SupergirlRebirth'', Director Chase thinks that Kryptonians were arrogant, and their hubris led to their destruction. She also thinks that ''Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}'' may have Kryptonian ego issues and still has anger management issues.
2nd Sep '16 3:47:57 PM Prometheus117
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** Dealing with this involves a final showdown with the Sha of Pride, the fourth boss in Siege of Orgrimmar. To even fight against the Sha, you must complete Norushen's trial (the third boss encounter) in order to sufficiently purge yourself of your corruption. The Sha of Pride uses attacks that increase your Pride, all while saying things such as "You are better than your companions" and "You should bow to no king or warchief," with increasingly negative effects until you are ultimately mind controlled; you must defeat the boss before this can happen.
** Pride also proves to be Garrosh Hellscream's {{fatal flaw}}, as his caused him to view all non-orcish races as worthy only to serve or be ground underfoot, and that same pride caused him to be completely ignorant of the growing similarities between the oppressive rule of the mogu in ages past and the police-state Orgrimmar has become in light of the other leaders rebelling, after a campaign full of being used to further the orcs' agenda with nothing to show for it but bodies to bury and, in the blood elves' case, a weapon to use in the upcoming revolution.

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** Dealing with this involves a final showdown with the Sha of Pride, the fourth boss in Siege of Orgrimmar.Orgrimmar, the most powerful sha of all, and the only one Emperor Shaohao didn't purge himself of. To even fight against the Sha, you must complete Norushen's trial (the third boss encounter) in order to sufficiently purge yourself of your corruption. The Sha of Pride uses attacks that increase your Pride, all while saying things such as "You are better than your companions" and "You should bow to no king or warchief," with increasingly negative effects until you are ultimately mind controlled; you must defeat the boss before this can happen.
** Pride also proves to be Garrosh Hellscream's {{fatal flaw}}, as his caused him to view all non-orcish races as worthy only to serve or be ground underfoot, and that same pride caused him to be completely ignorant of the growing similarities between the oppressive rule of the mogu in ages past and the police-state Orgrimmar has become in light of the other leaders rebelling, after a campaign full of being used to further the orcs' agenda with nothing to show for it but bodies to bury and, in the blood elves' case, a weapon to use in the upcoming revolution. Fittingly enough, it was ''Garrosh'' that allowed the Sha of Pride to manifest completely.
30th Aug '16 11:02:58 AM Gamermaster
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* This is why Kaguya and Shirogane don't confess to each other in ''Manga/KaguyaSamaWaKokurasetai''. They're both so arrogant, they refuse to accept the idea that someone has any form of power over them even something as simple as a crush. They're ideal of dating is the other begging for the other to date them and they give them pity.



* This is why Kaguya and Shirogane don't confess to each other in ''Manga/KaguyaSamaWaKokurasetai''. They're both so arrogant, they refuse to accept the idea that someone has any form of power over them even something as simple as a crush. They're ideal of dating is the other begging for the other to date them and they give them pity.
30th Aug '16 10:58:50 AM Gamermaster
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* This is why Kaguya and Shirogane don't confess to each other in ''Manga/KaguyaSamaWaKokurasetai''. They're both so arrogant, they refuse to accept the idea that someone has any form of power over them even something as simple as a crush. They're ideal of dating is the other begging for the other to date them and they give them pity.
26th Aug '16 9:19:08 PM Az_Tech341
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* Andrew from ''Film/{{Chronicle}}'', while originally painfully shy and introverted, begins to find success at popularity by dint of his newly-granted superpowers. One of his other superpower-enabled friends half-jokingly claims that, now that he possesses such extreme confidence, his hubris will then lead to his downfall. Andrew responds by [[{{GenreBlindness}} asking what 'hubris' means]]

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* Andrew from ''Film/{{Chronicle}}'', while originally painfully shy and introverted, begins to find success at popularity by dint of his newly-granted superpowers. One of his other superpower-enabled friends half-jokingly claims that, now that he possesses such extreme confidence, his hubris will then lead to his downfall. Andrew responds by [[{{GenreBlindness}} asking what 'hubris' means]]
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