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21st Feb '17 11:47:08 PM gewunomox
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* For that matter, the sections of the British blues scene of TheSixties, at least for those less than authentic in their delivery or presentation. This, and the [[FollowTheLeader overexposure]] of blues and R&B influence then popular at the time, helped lead to the very British ProgressiveRock scene. Led Zeppelin, anyone? Robert Plant himself addressed this in an interview when he said "I wanted to sing like Ray Charles, but I was a bit of a nancy boy, so that's what you got." (Led Zeppelin were, of course, later sued for their blues ripoffs). Ian Anderson felt he and his band were stealing a part of black culture and emotional experiences insincerely and not always convincingly, and that by strictly resigning himself to performing a "polite shade" of black American music he had little room for the [[NeoclassicalPunkZydecoRockabilly full extent of music]] he wanted to make. He soon reinvented JethroTull as a very eclectic English/Scottish ProgressiveRock band in TheSeventies.

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* For that matter, the sections of the British blues scene of TheSixties, at least for those less than authentic in their delivery or presentation. This, and the [[FollowTheLeader overexposure]] of blues and R&B influence then popular at the time, helped lead to the very British ProgressiveRock scene. Led Zeppelin, anyone? Robert Plant himself addressed this in an interview when he said "I wanted to sing like Ray Charles, but I was a bit of a nancy boy, so that's what you got." (Led Zeppelin were, of course, later sued for their blues ripoffs). Ian Anderson felt he and his band were stealing a part of black culture and emotional experiences insincerely and not always convincingly, and that by strictly resigning himself to performing a "polite shade" of black American music he had little room for the [[NeoclassicalPunkZydecoRockabilly full extent of music]] he wanted to make. He soon reinvented JethroTull Music/JethroTull as a very eclectic English/Scottish ProgressiveRock band in TheSeventies.
2nd Feb '17 12:58:10 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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* US Presidential candidate [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDwwAaVmnf4 Mitt Romney]].
** Also, Presidential primary candidate [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egJ8NtvVFs8 Hillary Clinton]].

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* US In the US, Presidential candidate candidates seem to love to embarrass themselves this way. Watch as [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDwwAaVmnf4 Mitt Romney]].
** Also, Presidential primary candidate
Romney]] and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egJ8NtvVFs8 Hillary Clinton]].Clinton]] both fall prey to it.



* Creator/QuentinTarantino has tried a little too hard to "talk black" in some of his interviews following ''Film/DjangoUnchained''.
** Creator/SethMacFarlane at the Oscars defended Tarantino's use of the N word in ''Django'': "Because he thinks he's black".

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* Creator/QuentinTarantino has tried a little too hard to "talk black" in some of his interviews following ''Film/DjangoUnchained''.
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''Film/DjangoUnchained''. At the Oscars, Creator/SethMacFarlane at the Oscars defended Tarantino's use of the N word in ''Django'': "Because ''Django'' thusly:
-->"Because
he thinks he's black".



* In 2004, a white Deputy Chief Constable perfomed a rap while addressing the first meeting of the North Wales Black Police Association. [[http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/3662747.stm Reactions were mixed]].

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* In 2004, a white Deputy Chief Constable perfomed performed a rap while addressing the first meeting of the North Wales Black Police Association. [[http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/3662747.stm Reactions were mixed]].



* The interesting case of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Dolezal Rachel Dolezal]], who despite being white became prominent in the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), leading its chapter in Washington State. In as many words, she argued she qualified as black because one's sense of racial identity is a state of mind. She forged - up until the controversy arose - a sucessful career as an academic specialising in African art, black feminism , African-American history and culture.

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* The interesting strange case of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Dolezal Rachel Dolezal]], who despite being a white woman who became prominent in the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), leading its chapter in Washington State. In as many words, she argued that she qualified as black because one's sense of racial identity is a state of mind. She forged - up until Before the controversy arose - arose, she forged a sucessful successful career as an academic specialising in African art, black feminism , feminism, and African-American history and culture.
23rd Jan '17 8:18:02 AM Nakuyabi
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Unless you are xenophobic or ethnocentric, you might [[ForeignCultureFetish find parts of other cultures to be interesting or cool]]. So you might have the urge to at least once in a while try to imitate part of that culture, like the dialect, slang, or accent. Now the problem is that you don't have a deep understanding of the culture's origins and meanings, so you should at least pay close attention to what you are about to imitate, preferably with some practice beforehand.

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Unless you are If you're not particularly xenophobic or ethnocentric, you might [[ForeignCultureFetish find parts of other cultures to be interesting or cool]]. So you might have the urge to at least once in a while try to imitate part of that culture, like the dialect, slang, or accent. Now the problem is that you don't have a deep understanding of the culture's origins and meanings, so you should at least pay close attention to what you are about to imitate, preferably with some practice beforehand.
17th Jan '17 3:12:30 PM BattleMaster
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** Weird Al has actually covered the Trope Namer (as ''Pretty Fly For A Rabbi'', which actually seems to invert the trope by being about an actual Jewish person who so excels at the stereotypes that he's well-liked for it).

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** Weird Al has actually covered the Trope Namer (as as ''Pretty Fly For A Rabbi'', which actually seems to invert [[InvertedTrope inverts things]]: the trope by Rabbi in the song is popular and cool because of how good he is at being about an actual Jewish person who so excels at the stereotypes that he's well-liked for it).Jewish.



* In the latest editions of ''TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}'', of the flaws you can take, a few of them are Ork and Elf poser, which makes you the fantasy equivilent with obvious drawbacks.

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* In the latest editions of ''TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}'', of the flaws you can take, a few of them are Ork and Elf poser, which makes you the fantasy equivilent with obvious drawbacks.equivalent. Elf posers are pretty much hated by everyone who isn't another Elf poser, while Ork posers are a little more mixed- most people don't like them but there are some Orks who are willing to accept them as honorary members of the group as long as they can act Orky enough.
10th Jan '17 10:48:00 PM MsChibi
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If you don't, you will look silly ''at the very least''. Worse, in fiction, wars have started that way.

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If you don't, you will look silly ''at the very least''. Worse, in fiction, fiction ([[FlameWar and on]] [[{{Gift}} the Internet]]), wars have started that way.
10th Jan '17 7:05:48 PM nombretomado
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* [[TheLonelyIsland IT IS I,]] [[http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Ras+Trent&aq=f&aql=&aqi=g2g-c1g2g-c1g1g-c1g2&oq= RAS TRENT!]] (There's even a part where he avoids trying to offend the ''actual'' Rastafari in the video.)

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* [[TheLonelyIsland [[Music/TheLonelyIsland IT IS I,]] [[http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Ras+Trent&aq=f&aql=&aqi=g2g-c1g2g-c1g1g-c1g2&oq= RAS TRENT!]] (There's even a part where he avoids trying to offend the ''actual'' Rastafari in the video.)
30th Dec '16 11:43:51 AM V2Blast
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** In the sequel ''Film/TransformersRevengeOfTheFallen'', the Twins are meant to be this according to WordOfGod. And since, functionally, they're callously imitating black culture as they see it on TV and such, this makes sense. However, as they were neither white nor black but ''bright orange'' and ''bright green'', there was little physical anchor for the joke, meaning that most people who saw the movie thought they were meant to be caricatures of actual hood rats.



* In the sequel ''Film/TransformersRevengeOfTheFallen'', the Twins are meant to be this according to WordOfGod. And since, functionally, they're callously imitating black culture as they see it on TV and such, this makes sense. However, as they were neither white nor black but ''bright orange'' and ''bright green'', there was little physical anchor for the joke, meaning that most people who saw the movie thought they were meant to be caricatures of actual hood rats.
9th Dec '16 3:34:27 PM DaibhidC
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** There's also VampireVannabe Doreen Winkins, who's Pretty Bat for a Live Girl. In her case the ultimate irony is that the group she's a member of (the {{Uberwald}} League of [[VegetarianVampires Temperance]]) mostly consists of vampires who are trying to move away from all the stereotypes she enthusiastically embraces.

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** There's also VampireVannabe Doreen Winkins, who's Pretty Bat for a Live Girl. In her case the ultimate irony is that the group she's a member of (the {{Uberwald}} League of [[VegetarianVampires [[VegetarianVampire Temperance]]) mostly consists of vampires who are trying to move away from all the stereotypes she enthusiastically embraces.
9th Dec '16 3:33:57 PM DaibhidC
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** There's also VampireVannabe Doreen Winkins, who's Pretty Bat for a Live Girl. In her case the ultimate irony is that the group she's a member of (the {{Uberwald}} League of Temperance) mostly consists of vampires who are trying to move away from all the stereotypes she enthusiastically embraces.

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** There's also VampireVannabe Doreen Winkins, who's Pretty Bat for a Live Girl. In her case the ultimate irony is that the group she's a member of (the {{Uberwald}} League of Temperance) [[VegetarianVampires Temperance]]) mostly consists of vampires who are trying to move away from all the stereotypes she enthusiastically embraces.
9th Dec '16 3:31:20 PM DaibhidC
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* This mind-set is satirised in Creator/TerryPratchett's ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' in the character of Ms Estressa Partleigh, who despite being human leads a dwarf activist group demanding equal rights and an end to discrimination. The Dwarf-Human thing is used as a FantasyCounterpart exploring questions of race, ethnicity and identity; there are humans who ''are'' accepted as part of dwarf society because they follow dwarf ritual (Carrot, Pepe), and it's implied that Ms Partleigh ''doesn't'', and most dwarfs ignore the Campaign for Equal Heights as politely as possible.

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* This mind-set is satirised in Creator/TerryPratchett's ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' ''Literature/{{Discworld}}''
** This mind-set is satirised
in the character of Ms Estressa Partleigh, who despite being human leads a dwarf activist group demanding equal rights and an end to discrimination. The Dwarf-Human thing is used as a FantasyCounterpart exploring questions of race, ethnicity and identity; there are humans who ''are'' accepted as part of dwarf society because they follow dwarf ritual (Carrot, Pepe), and it's implied that Ms Partleigh ''doesn't'', and most dwarfs ignore the Campaign for Equal Heights as politely as possible.possible.
** There's also VampireVannabe Doreen Winkins, who's Pretty Bat for a Live Girl. In her case the ultimate irony is that the group she's a member of (the {{Uberwald}} League of Temperance) mostly consists of vampires who are trying to move away from all the stereotypes she enthusiastically embraces.
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