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26th Jul '16 4:01:03 AM Morgenthaler
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Virtually any VillainWithGoodPublicity tends to be a master of this trope, especially one who is also DangerouslyGenreSavvy. Villains With Good Publicity almost always have years of experience in earning the trust of their supporters, and are well aware that angering dog-lovers (among others) [[SlaveToPR will not advance their cause and may hinder it]]. Even for those who don't happen to be AffablyEvil, if any dog-kicking is deemed necessary, they will keep these acts of cruelty out of the public eye, or when they can't do that, they'll do what they can to make it look like [[AssholeVictim the victim deserved it]]; how evil they [[WhatYouAreInTheDark truly are under cover of darkness]] must remain shrouded in darkness. They also tend to be masters of the [[XanatosGambit Xanatos Gambit]]. The NobleDemon will probably attempt to justify his nobility this way, with varying degrees of believability. Whenever there's a GenericDoomsdayVillain or an OmnicidalManiac around, there's a good chance the [[EvilVersusOblivion other villains]] will form an EnemyMine with the heroes to stop them, as they want to rule the world, '''not''' [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt destroy it.]] Or at least [[TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou not steal their job of fighting the heroes.]] Even most ChaoticEvil AxCrazy villains who do things ForTheEvulz fall to this trope. [[VictoryIsBoring There's no fun]] [[NoChallengeEqualsNoSatisfaction or challenge]] for them if everyone's dead -- they'd be left forlorn with no idea [[AndThenWhat what to do next.]]

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Virtually any VillainWithGoodPublicity tends to be a master of this trope, especially one who is also DangerouslyGenreSavvy.trope. Villains With Good Publicity almost always have years of experience in earning the trust of their supporters, and are well aware that angering dog-lovers (among others) [[SlaveToPR will not advance their cause and may hinder it]]. Even for those who don't happen to be AffablyEvil, if any dog-kicking is deemed necessary, they will keep these acts of cruelty out of the public eye, or when they can't do that, they'll do what they can to make it look like [[AssholeVictim the victim deserved it]]; how evil they [[WhatYouAreInTheDark truly are under cover of darkness]] must remain shrouded in darkness. They also tend to be masters of the [[XanatosGambit Xanatos Gambit]]. The NobleDemon will probably attempt to justify his nobility this way, with varying degrees of believability. Whenever there's a GenericDoomsdayVillain or an OmnicidalManiac around, there's a good chance the [[EvilVersusOblivion other villains]] will form an EnemyMine with the heroes to stop them, as they want to rule the world, '''not''' [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt destroy it.]] Or at least [[TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou not steal their job of fighting the heroes.]] Even most ChaoticEvil AxCrazy villains who do things ForTheEvulz fall to this trope. [[VictoryIsBoring There's no fun]] [[NoChallengeEqualsNoSatisfaction or challenge]] for them if everyone's dead -- they'd be left forlorn with no idea [[AndThenWhat what to do next.]]



* In the WesternAnimation/JackieChanAdventures story ''FanFic/QueenOfAllOni'', Jade fits this trope -- being DangerouslyGenreSavvy, and a FallenHero (as well as at least partially AffablyEvil), she realizes that a WorldDomination plot would be unwise, since the Demon Sorcerers attempting to do so was the very thing that turned them into SealedEvilInACan, and she wants to avoid the same fate.

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* In the WesternAnimation/JackieChanAdventures story ''FanFic/QueenOfAllOni'', Jade fits this trope -- being DangerouslyGenreSavvy, very clever, and a FallenHero (as well as at least partially AffablyEvil), she realizes that a WorldDomination plot would be unwise, since the Demon Sorcerers attempting to do so was the very thing that turned them into SealedEvilInACan, and she wants to avoid the same fate.



** Not so much a matter of avoiding morally reprehensible actions, but Agatio parts with his dignity in ''Golden Sun: The Lost Age'' and consciously plays the part of a [[DumbMuscle dumb]] [[TheBrute brute]] [[UnwittingPawn being manipulated]] by Alex because he knows that will ''get the job done'', though he makes it clear that he's actually a DangerouslyGenreSavvy GeniusBruiser and [[TeethClenchedTeamwork not fond]] of Alex's [[SmugSnake attitude]].

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** Not so much a matter of avoiding morally reprehensible actions, but Agatio parts with his dignity in ''Golden Sun: The Lost Age'' and consciously plays the part of a [[DumbMuscle dumb]] [[TheBrute brute]] [[UnwittingPawn being manipulated]] by Alex because he knows that will ''get the job done'', though he makes it clear that he's actually a DangerouslyGenreSavvy GeniusBruiser and [[TeethClenchedTeamwork not fond]] of Alex's [[SmugSnake attitude]].



* [[BlueAndOrangeMorality The Sphynx]] from ''Webcomic/{{Subnormality}}'' may [[ToServeMan like to eat humans]] but shown to spared humans a few times, claiming it's because they're small and not worth the effort. (She doesn't eat children for the same reason. "Barely a meal", as she says from the image above.) Also, [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy on the other end of the spectrum,]] she also chooses to lurk outside a gym when hunting for victims, because customers tend to be clean and showered when they come out and too tired to run, insisting to the owner when he complains about it that he'd do the same thing if ''he'' were a predator.

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* [[BlueAndOrangeMorality The Sphynx]] from ''Webcomic/{{Subnormality}}'' may [[ToServeMan like to eat humans]] but shown to spared humans a few times, claiming it's because they're small and not worth the effort. (She doesn't eat children for the same reason. "Barely a meal", as she says from the image above.) Also, [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy on the other end of the spectrum,]] spectrum, she also chooses to lurk outside a gym when hunting for victims, because customers tend to be clean and showered when they come out and too tired to run, insisting to the owner when he complains about it that he'd do the same thing if ''he'' were a predator.



** Tarquin, who claims to be AboveGoodAndEvil, runs the Empire of Blood. His interaction with Heroes suggests he's so DangerouslyGenreSavvy it hurts, including knowing world domination is rather hard to pull off if everyone knows you're doing it. He even offers help and magical rewards to prevent Xykon from doing so either.

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** Tarquin, who claims to be AboveGoodAndEvil, runs the Empire of Blood. His interaction with Heroes suggests he's so DangerouslyGenreSavvy GenreSavvy it hurts, including knowing world domination is rather hard to pull off if everyone knows you're doing it. He even offers help and magical rewards to prevent Xykon from doing so either.



* [[BigBad Amon]] from ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' is this to the point of DangerouslyGenreSavvy. He specifically [[spoiler: picks certain benders that are established monsters or jerks, refuses to debend the Avatar to avoid creating a martyr, and won't indulge in any KickTheDog moments for the fun of it [[MagnificentBastard in order to build up a strong following]]. By the time his endgame comes into play, however, he tosses this aside, so perhaps he was only pragmatic as long as it was pragmatic.]].

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* [[BigBad Amon]] from ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra'' is this to the point of DangerouslyGenreSavvy. He specifically [[spoiler: picks certain benders that are established monsters or jerks, refuses to debend the Avatar to avoid creating a martyr, and won't indulge in any KickTheDog moments for the fun of it [[MagnificentBastard in order to build up a strong following]]. By the time his endgame comes into play, however, he tosses this aside, so perhaps he was only pragmatic as long as it was pragmatic.]].
20th Jul '16 12:05:51 AM Eddy1215
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** The season sixth premiere revealed why King Sombra hid the Crystal Heart away rather than destroy it so it couldn't be used to stop him: its magic was the only thing protecting the Crystal Empire from the dangerous weather surrounding it.
19th Jul '16 4:05:18 AM tiiger
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* In ''Series/{{Arrow}}'', Damien Darhk refuses Lonnie Machin membership of H.I.V.E. because of his chaotic methods - in the comics, Machin is known as [[ComicBookMoviesDontUseCodeNames Anarky]].

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* In ''Series/{{Arrow}}'', ''Series/{{Arrow}}'': Damien Darhk refuses Lonnie Machin membership of H.I.V.E. because of his chaotic methods - in the comics, Machin is known as [[ComicBookMoviesDontUseCodeNames Anarky]].
17th Jul '16 9:13:23 PM tiiger
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* In ''Series/{{Arrow}}'', Damien Darhk refuses Lonnie Machin membership of H.I.V.E. because of his chaotic methods - in the comics, Machin is known as [[ComicBookMoviesDontUseCodeNames Anarky]].
17th Jul '16 10:31:34 AM WiseMan23753
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* In a meeting of the Mana leaders of ''Anime/CrossAnge'', Julio declares that they must eradicate the Norma, declaring it was their mistake to let them live. One of the leaders immediately protests, reminding him that they're still useful as CannonFodder and are needed to harvest the Dragons.
** Embryo also uses [[spoiler:Julio's massacre]] to his advantage in order to gain new recruits for his BattleHarem. He also tries to convince Ange to side with goal of destroying the Mana world. [[spoiler:Too bad for him, Tusk disrupts this by showing the kind of man he really is.]]
14th Jul '16 4:19:05 AM Qube
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** Raoul Duke had earlier objected to Gonzo's drugging and then taking sexual advantage of Lucy. Not because RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil, mind, but because Duke and Gonzo were already several felonies into a [[VivaLasVegas proper visit to Las Vegas]] and the last thing they needed was Lucy sobering up and calling the police, especially considering they were ''[[RefugeInAudacity currently crashing a national police convention]]''. Duke very pointedly wants to dump Lucy somewhere while she's still strung out to lower the risk of her remembering anything incriminating.
9th Jul '16 9:32:22 PM TheSinful
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* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11669575/18/For-Love-of-Magic For Love of Magic]]'', Adrastia Zabini abandons her plans to seduce Harry as well as Sirius, make one kill the other then later make the winner commit suicide when she realizes Harry is too strong and too self-aware for her magical seduction to work. Instead she settles on an alliance between the two as both know about the other's highly illegal activities but also has sufficient gold to bribe investigators even ''if'' either had enough evidence to truly condemn the other.
7th Jul '16 6:51:49 PM gophergiggles
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* Despite all the genuinely psychotic stuff going on in the titular setting of ''VideoGame/ManiacMansion'', including bloody chain saws in the kitchen, mad experiments, the kidnapped DamselInDistress, and so forth, if you run into Edna she merely captures you and either calls the police or ''your mother''. After all, there's no way anyone would believe the teenager's reasoning for sneaking in, and technically speaking he ''is'' trespassing.
25th Jun '16 3:36:42 AM Hanz
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* ''VideoGame/SleepingDogs'', Broken-Nose Jiang despises Big Smile Lee's prostitution and women-selling operations because she believes they are archaic and don't provide as much profit as certain alternatives.

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* ''VideoGame/SleepingDogs'', Broken-Nose Jiang despises Big Smile Lee's prostitution and women-selling operations because she believes they are archaic and don't provide as much profit as certain alternatives.white-collar crimes.
16th Jun '16 2:30:05 PM KeithM
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* Queen Arabelle in ''A Woman's Work'' by Creator/TanyaHuff is ruthless enough to encourage her not-very-bright son to wear [[BlingOfWar highly decorated bright uniforms while she wears something more subdued (because who will an assassin instinctively aim at?) but makes sure her people are educated (at government schools with an approved curriculum), employed, have a good medical system, knows many of her troops by name and rewards them for good work and initiative, and when she conquers a new territory has most of the defeated nobles' property distributed among the lower classes of the conquered country and immediately starts infrastructure programs to help improve their lives. She even allows the odd dissident to make public speeches against her reign, giving her an excuse to remind the "oppressed citizens" that she's made their lives much better. And letting ''them'' beat up the troublemaker.

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* Queen Arabelle in ''A Woman's Work'' by Creator/TanyaHuff is ruthless enough to encourage her not-very-bright son to wear [[BlingOfWar highly decorated bright uniforms uniforms]] while she wears something more subdued (because who will an assassin instinctively aim at?) but makes sure her people are educated (at government schools with an approved curriculum), employed, have a good medical system, knows many of her troops by name and rewards them for good work and initiative, and when she conquers a new territory has most of the defeated nobles' property distributed among the lower classes of the conquered country and immediately starts infrastructure programs to help improve their lives. She even allows the odd dissident to make public speeches against her reign, giving her an excuse to remind the "oppressed citizens" that she's made their lives much better. And letting ''them'' beat up the troublemaker.
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