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29th Jun '17 3:03:06 AM StFan
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19th Jun '17 2:44:31 PM DDRMASTERM
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* ''TabletopGame/YuGiOh'', as seen in the above image and caption. ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' suffers somewhat from Power Creep corresponding with the release of each new anime. The idea is that, to make the new game mechanics and wealth of new cards playable, they have to be stronger than what's already available. Most of the old cards that are still used tend to be "staples". This is sometimes subverted through the Forbidden & Limited List which attempts to balance the game out and can sometimes make older cards useful again.

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* ''TabletopGame/YuGiOh'', as seen in the above image and caption. ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' ''TabletopGame/YuGiOh'' suffers somewhat heavily from Power Creep corresponding with the release of each new anime. The idea is that, to make the new game mechanics and wealth of new cards playable, they have to be stronger than what's already available. Most of the old cards that are still used tend to be "staples". This is sometimes subverted through the Forbidden & Limited List which attempts to balance the game out and can sometimes make older cards useful again.
16th Jun '17 7:17:38 PM Willbyr
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[[caption-width-right:350:[-'''On your left''': Four useful cards at the time of their releases but with some draw-back. (Blue-Eyes White Dragon:[[note]]A powerful 3000 ATK monster which requires 2 Tributes to Normal Summon.[[/note]] Thunder Nyan Nyan:[[note]]Powerful 1900 ATK monster that dies if you control a non-LIGHT monster.[[/note]] Moisture Creature;[[note]]Requires 2 or 3 Tributes. If Tribute Summoned with 3 tributes, destroys enemy's Spell and Trap cards.[[/note]] Gilford the Lightning.[[note]]Requires 2 or 3 Tributes. If Tribute Summoned with 3 tributes, destroys enemy's Monsters[[/note]]) '''On your right''': Beast King Barbaros, a card released later that can do the same as those four, at the same time, with no drawbacks. [[note]]Can be summoned with no Tributes with 1900 ATK. Can be summoned with 2 Tributes with 3000 ATK. Can be summoned with 3 Tributes to destroy all cards on your opponent's field.[[/note]][[note]]Of course, the game has progressed to the point where all of the above cards are now worthless except for the first one, which is used for far more powerful cards, with no drawback[[/note]]-] ]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:[-'''On your left''': Four useful cards at the time of their releases but with some draw-back. (Blue-Eyes White Dragon:[[note]]A powerful 3000 ATK monster which requires 2 Tributes to Normal Summon.[[/note]] Thunder Nyan Nyan:[[note]]Powerful 1900 ATK monster that dies if you control a non-LIGHT monster.[[/note]] Moisture Creature;[[note]]Requires 2 or 3 Tributes. If Tribute Summoned with 3 tributes, destroys enemy's Spell and Trap cards.[[/note]] Gilford the Lightning.[[note]]Requires 2 or 3 Tributes. If Tribute Summoned with 3 tributes, destroys enemy's Monsters[[/note]]) '''On your right''': Beast King Barbaros, a card released later that can do the same as those four, at the same time, with no drawbacks. [[note]]Can be summoned with no Tributes with 1900 ATK. Can be summoned with 2 Tributes with 3000 ATK. Can be summoned with 3 Tributes to destroy all cards on your opponent's field.[[/note]][[note]]Of course, the game has progressed to the point where all of the above cards are now worthless except for the first one, which is used for far more powerful cards, with no drawback[[/note]]-] ]]
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* As new cards were introduced to ''{{VideoGames/Hearthstone}}'', Power Creep inevitably followed. For example, when released Piloted Shredder was so much more powerful than any existing four mana minion that in most cases it became the only card worth playing at that cost. The following expansion had to include several cards designed specifically to counter it because the card had become so dominant. ''Extra Credits'' discusses this specific case in detail [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3b3hDvRjJA here.]]

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* As new cards were introduced to ''{{VideoGames/Hearthstone}}'', ''VideoGame/{{Hearthstone}}'', Power Creep inevitably followed. For example, when released Piloted Shredder was so much more powerful than any existing four mana minion that in most cases it became the only card worth playing at that cost. The following expansion had to include several cards designed specifically to counter it because the card had become so dominant. ''Extra Credits'' discusses this specific case in detail [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3b3hDvRjJA here.]]
4th Jun '17 9:33:07 AM AnotherDuck
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** Better and beter ways to make money have come out as the game has progressed. First grinding contact missions were the only real way to make the big bucks without resorting to shark cards. The heist were finally released giving the players access to huge payouts and shattering the standard set by contact missions. Ten Ceo work added to the game which boasted even greater money making in the same amount of time at the cost of being much riskier due to both investment in product and by virtue of taking place in free roam lobbies. Then Motorcycle club businesses were released which don't offer quite the same money for total time but requite a far less active roll and don't require the player to risk investment in product. ''After that'' Import Exporting was introduced with an even safer and faster way to make money than the MC businesses.

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** Better and beter better ways to make money have come out as the game has progressed. First grinding contact missions were the only real way to make the big bucks without resorting to shark cards. The heist were finally released giving the players access to huge payouts and shattering the standard set by contact missions. Ten Ceo work added to the game which boasted even greater money making in the same amount of time at the cost of being much riskier due to both investment in product and by virtue of taking place in free roam lobbies. Then Motorcycle club businesses were released which don't offer quite the same money for total time but requite a far less active roll and don't require the player to risk investment in product. ''After that'' Import Exporting was introduced with an even safer and faster way to make money than the MC businesses.
4th Jun '17 9:29:59 AM AnotherDuck
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[[folder:Real Life]]
* Even real life is constantly subject to power creep over time, as technology gets better and better. As people discover new possibilities and better ways to do things, new technology is created which often makes older technology, previously the best of its kind, obsolete. For instance, the "stats" of a modern cell phone are orders of magnitude better than the best computers money could buy decades ago, and while commonplace now, if you were to take one back in time, it would be massively "overpowered". And for a more traditional example of power creep, just look at the history of weapons.
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1st Jun '17 3:14:11 PM WillKeaton
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* Power creep has taken form in [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV Grand Theft Auto: Online's]] multiple years of content updates. Here are a few examples:

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* Power creep has taken form in [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV ''[[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV Grand Theft Auto: Online's]] Online's]]'' multiple years of content updates. Here are a few examples:
1st Jun '17 3:13:43 PM WillKeaton
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** In ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga'', the weakest enemy has 4 HP, the first big boss has either 30 or 50 HP depending on which one you count and the final one has 1200 HP. In ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiDreamTeam'', the weakest enemy has 8 HP, the first boss has between 96 and 288 HP depending on which you count, and the final one has 2417 HP. Bros Attacks, Badge effects and gear have also got progressively more powerful as the series has progressed. Averted with Battle Ring/Gauntlet bosses (the ones in ''[[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiBowsersInsideStory Bowser's Inside Story]]'' are stronger) and ''[[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPartnersInTime Partners in Time]]'''s later bosses (which are harder than those in the last two games).

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** In ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga'', the weakest enemy has 4 HP, the first big boss has either 30 or 50 HP depending on which one you count count, and the final one boss has 1200 HP. In ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiDreamTeam'', the weakest enemy has 8 HP, the first boss has between 96 and 288 HP depending on which you count, and the final one boss has 2417 HP. Bros Attacks, Badge effects and gear have also got progressively more powerful as the series has progressed. Averted with Battle Ring/Gauntlet bosses (the ones in ''[[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiBowsersInsideStory Bowser's Inside Story]]'' are stronger) and ''[[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPartnersInTime Partners in Time]]'''s later bosses (which are harder than those in the last two games).
1st Jun '17 3:12:31 PM WillKeaton
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** For example, Magical Scientist, which was long considered vastly inferior to Cyber-Stein (because MS only allowed you to summon level 1-6 Fusion monsters that died at the end of the turn and couldn't attack your opponent directly, while Stein allowed you to permanently summon ANY 1 Fusion monster), is now considered one of, if not THE, most broken creature in the game, because he can - by himself - summon-spam Fusion monster after Fusion monster, as his lifepoint cost is FAR lower than that of Cyber Stein[[note]]Magical Scientist only asks for 1000 lifepoints, whereas Stein asks for 5000[[/note]]. This became a problem when combined with Catapult Turtle, who can launch the monsters at the opponent directly for damage (and there are enough Fusion Monsters with just enough ATK to kill the opponent before you ran out of life points) or overlay them to form an army of Xyz Monsters. Though he is squarely on the Banned list in Advanced Format, if a Standard Format were instituted, there wouldn't even need to be a Banned List that has him on it.

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** For example, Magical Scientist, which was long considered vastly inferior to Cyber-Stein (because MS only allowed you to summon level 1-6 Fusion monsters that died at the end of the turn and couldn't attack your opponent directly, while Stein allowed you to permanently summon ANY 1 Fusion monster), is now considered one of, if not THE, most broken creature in the game, because he can - by himself - summon-spam Fusion monster after Fusion monster, as his lifepoint cost is FAR lower than that of Cyber Stein[[note]]Magical Stein.[[note]]Magical Scientist only asks for 1000 lifepoints, whereas Stein asks for 5000[[/note]]. 5000.[[/note]] This became a problem when combined with Catapult Turtle, who can launch the monsters at the opponent directly for damage (and there are enough Fusion Monsters with just enough ATK to kill the opponent before you ran out of life points) or overlay them to form an army of Xyz Monsters. Though he is squarely on the Banned list in Advanced Format, if a Standard Format were instituted, there wouldn't even need to be a Banned List that has him on it.
1st Jun '17 3:10:20 PM WillKeaton
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[[caption-width-right:350:[-'''On your left''': Four useful cards at the time of their releases but with some draw-back. (Blue-Eyes White Dragon:[[note]]A powerful 3000 ATK monster which requires 2 Tributes to Normal Summon.[[/note]] Thunder Nyan Nyan:[[note]]Powerful 1900 ATK monster that dies if you control a non-LIGHT monster.[[/note]] Moisture Creatur;[[note]]Requires 2 or 3 Tributes. If Tribute Summoned with 3 tributes, destroys enemy's Spell and Trap cards.[[/note]] Gilford the Lightning.[[note]]Requires 2 or 3 Tributes. If Tribute Summoned with 3 tributes, destroys enemy's Monsters[[/note]]) '''On your right''': Beast King Barbaros, a card released later that can do the same as those four, at the same time, with no drawbacks. [[note]]Can be summoned with no Tributes with 1900 ATK. Can be summoned with 2 Tributes with 3000 ATK. Can be summoned with 3 Tributes to destroy all cards on your opponent's field.[[/note]][[note]]Of course, the game has progressed to the point where all of the above cards are now worthless except for the first one, which is used for far more powerful cards, with no drawback[[/note]]-] ]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:[-'''On your left''': Four useful cards at the time of their releases but with some draw-back. (Blue-Eyes White Dragon:[[note]]A powerful 3000 ATK monster which requires 2 Tributes to Normal Summon.[[/note]] Thunder Nyan Nyan:[[note]]Powerful 1900 ATK monster that dies if you control a non-LIGHT monster.[[/note]] Moisture Creatur;[[note]]Requires Creature;[[note]]Requires 2 or 3 Tributes. If Tribute Summoned with 3 tributes, destroys enemy's Spell and Trap cards.[[/note]] Gilford the Lightning.[[note]]Requires 2 or 3 Tributes. If Tribute Summoned with 3 tributes, destroys enemy's Monsters[[/note]]) '''On your right''': Beast King Barbaros, a card released later that can do the same as those four, at the same time, with no drawbacks. [[note]]Can be summoned with no Tributes with 1900 ATK. Can be summoned with 2 Tributes with 3000 ATK. Can be summoned with 3 Tributes to destroy all cards on your opponent's field.[[/note]][[note]]Of course, the game has progressed to the point where all of the above cards are now worthless except for the first one, which is used for far more powerful cards, with no drawback[[/note]]-] ]]
1st Jun '17 3:09:55 PM WillKeaton
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[[caption-width-right:350:[-'''On your left''': Four useful cards at the time of their releases but with some draw-back (Blue-Eyes White Dragon[[note]]A powerful 3000 ATK monster which requires 2 Tributes to Normal Summon[[/note]]; Thunder Nyan Nyan[[note]]Powerful 1900 ATK monster that dies if you control a non-LIGHT monster[[/note]]; Moisture Creature[[note]]Requires 2 or 3 Tributes. If Tribute Summoned with 3 tributes, destroys enemy's Spell and Trap cards[[/note]]; Gilford the Lightning[[note]]Requires 2 or 3 Tributes. If Tribute Summoned with 3 tributes, destroys enemy's Monsters[[/note]]). '''On your right''': Beast King Barbaros, a card released later that can do the same as those four, at the same time, with no drawbacks. [[note]]Can be summoned with no Tributes with 1900 ATK. Can be summoned with 2 Tributes with 3000 ATK. Can be summoned with 3 Tributes to destroy all cards on your opponent's field.[[/note]][[note]]Of course, the game has progressed to the point where all of the above cards are now worthless except for the first one, which is used for far more powerful cards, with no drawback[[/note]]-] ]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:[-'''On your left''': Four useful cards at the time of their releases but with some draw-back draw-back. (Blue-Eyes White Dragon[[note]]A Dragon:[[note]]A powerful 3000 ATK monster which requires 2 Tributes to Normal Summon[[/note]]; Summon.[[/note]] Thunder Nyan Nyan[[note]]Powerful Nyan:[[note]]Powerful 1900 ATK monster that dies if you control a non-LIGHT monster[[/note]]; monster.[[/note]] Moisture Creature[[note]]Requires Creatur;[[note]]Requires 2 or 3 Tributes. If Tribute Summoned with 3 tributes, destroys enemy's Spell and Trap cards[[/note]]; cards.[[/note]] Gilford the Lightning[[note]]Requires Lightning.[[note]]Requires 2 or 3 Tributes. If Tribute Summoned with 3 tributes, destroys enemy's Monsters[[/note]]). Monsters[[/note]]) '''On your right''': Beast King Barbaros, a card released later that can do the same as those four, at the same time, with no drawbacks. [[note]]Can be summoned with no Tributes with 1900 ATK. Can be summoned with 2 Tributes with 3000 ATK. Can be summoned with 3 Tributes to destroy all cards on your opponent's field.[[/note]][[note]]Of course, the game has progressed to the point where all of the above cards are now worthless except for the first one, which is used for far more powerful cards, with no drawback[[/note]]-] ]]
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