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23rd Mar '17 9:39:27 AM Morgenthaler
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->''ComicBook/TheJoker's a special case. Some of us feel he may be ''beyond'' treatment. In fact, we're not even sure if he can be properly defined as insane... It's quite possible we may actually be looking at some kind of super-sanity here. A brilliant new modification of human perception. More suited to [[CityNoir urban life]] in the twenty-first century.''
-->-- '''Dr. Ruth Adams''', ''ComicBook/ArkhamAsylumASeriousHouseOnSeriousEarth''


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->''ComicBook/TheJoker's a special case. Some of us feel he may be ''beyond'' treatment. In fact, we're not even sure if he can be properly defined as insane... It's quite possible we may actually be looking at some kind of super-sanity here. A brilliant new modification of human perception. More suited to [[CityNoir urban life]] in the twenty-first century.''
-->-- '''Dr. Ruth Adams''', ''ComicBook/ArkhamAsylumASeriousHouseOnSeriousEarth''
23rd Mar '17 9:39:07 AM Morgenthaler
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->''SelfDemonstratingArticle/TheJoker's a special case. Some of us feel he may be ''beyond'' treatment. In fact, we're not even sure if he can be properly defined as insane... It's quite possible we may actually be looking at some kind of super-sanity here. A brilliant new modification of human perception. More suited to [[CityNoir urban life]] in the twenty-first century.''

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->''SelfDemonstratingArticle/TheJoker's ->''ComicBook/TheJoker's a special case. Some of us feel he may be ''beyond'' treatment. In fact, we're not even sure if he can be properly defined as insane... It's quite possible we may actually be looking at some kind of super-sanity here. A brilliant new modification of human perception. More suited to [[CityNoir urban life]] in the twenty-first century.''



** SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker is sometimes portrayed as being able to see through the FourthWall because of his insanity.

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** SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker is sometimes portrayed as being able to see through the FourthWall because of his insanity.



* SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} has this.

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* SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} ComicBook/{{Deadpool}} has this.
5th Mar '17 5:09:35 PM nombretomado
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* [[EvilSorcerer Gallian]] in ''[[DungeonSiege In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale]]'' is one of the last magi. He figures out how to be independent from servitude (a magus must serve a king) by naming himself king of the mindless Krugg. He then forges them into a fearless horde that he uses to try to conquer the kingdom of Ehb. He also gains more power by sleeping with Muriella, the daughter of [[Creator/JohnRhysDavies Merick]], the king's magus. When confronted by Merick, they converse while dueling with magical swords suspended in mid-air. Merick finally realizes that Gallian has truly gone insane with power. Gallian doesn't deny and shows him exactly what madness can do, even though Merick is the older and more experienced magus.

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* [[EvilSorcerer Gallian]] in ''[[DungeonSiege ''[[Film/InTheNameOfTheKing In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale]]'' is one of the last magi. He figures out how to be independent from servitude (a magus must serve a king) by naming himself king of the mindless Krugg. He then forges them into a fearless horde that he uses to try to conquer the kingdom of Ehb. He also gains more power by sleeping with Muriella, the daughter of [[Creator/JohnRhysDavies Merick]], the king's magus. When confronted by Merick, they converse while dueling with magical swords suspended in mid-air. Merick finally realizes that Gallian has truly gone insane with power. Gallian doesn't deny and shows him exactly what madness can do, even though Merick is the older and more experienced magus.
13th Jan '17 9:03:57 AM Morgenthaler
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* In the ''{{Mistborn}}'' trilogy, by Brandon Sanderson, allomancers come into their powers after Snapping (something like a breakdown after a horrific event) - the most notable being Kelsier, who came into his powers after spending an unidentified amount of time working in a really nasty mine, followed by watching his wife being beaten to death before his eyes.
* Lampshaded at least as early as ''{{Dracula}}'' where Renfield mentions having heard of the strength of madmen, and reasons that as he's mad he must have it. He successfully uses this strength to knock Dracula out of his mist form and, for a moment, get the upper hand in the fight.

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* In the ''{{Mistborn}}'' ''Literature/{{Mistborn}}'' trilogy, by Brandon Sanderson, allomancers come into their powers after Snapping (something like a breakdown after a horrific event) - the most notable being Kelsier, who came into his powers after spending an unidentified amount of time working in a really nasty mine, followed by watching his wife being beaten to death before his eyes.
* Lampshaded at least as early as ''{{Dracula}}'' ''Literature/{{Dracula}}'' where Renfield mentions having heard of the strength of madmen, and reasons that as he's mad he must have it. He successfully uses this strength to knock Dracula out of his mist form and, for a moment, get the upper hand in the fight.



* From the {{Nightside}}, there is the one known as Madman, who was driven mad by perceiving the truth underlying reality? He's a dangerously powerful RealityWarper whose hallucinations manifest around him. Most notable is that he's accompanied by his own personal soundtrack. The other one is Jessica Sorrow the Unbeliever, who thinks that everything is just her hallucination and everyone is just another voice in her head. She tears heavy doors like paper, and anyone she finds a nuisance disappear.

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* From the {{Nightside}}, Literature/{{Nightside}}, there is the one known as Madman, who was driven mad by perceiving the truth underlying reality? He's a dangerously powerful RealityWarper whose hallucinations manifest around him. Most notable is that he's accompanied by his own personal soundtrack. The other one is Jessica Sorrow the Unbeliever, who thinks that everything is just her hallucination and everyone is just another voice in her head. She tears heavy doors like paper, and anyone she finds a nuisance disappear.
2nd Jan '17 5:39:49 AM Morgenthaler
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* Rorschach from ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'', CaptainErsatz to The Question, is similarly able to do things like [[ImprovisedWeapon fighting off cops with some hairspray and a match]] because he is [[AxCrazy crazy]], [[NietzscheWannabe crazy]], {{Badass}}, and ''[[SerialKiller crazy]]''.

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* Rorschach from ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'', CaptainErsatz to The Question, is similarly able to do things like [[ImprovisedWeapon fighting off cops with some hairspray and a match]] because he is [[AxCrazy crazy]], [[NietzscheWannabe crazy]], {{Badass}}, badass, and ''[[SerialKiller crazy]]''.
31st Dec '16 9:14:43 PM nombretomado
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* In the ''{{Geneforge}}'' series, serviles aren't able to do magic until the proper Geneforge and canisters are developed. Before then, though, a few serviles would develop the ability to cast spells anyway, [[TrainingFromHell by forming small cults where they could meditate and engage in self-harm]] until they went insane.
* ''TheSuffering'' has some fun with this. The main character has suffered blackouts his whole life, and in-game develops the ability to trigger those blackouts and [[SuperpoweredEvilSide turn into a hideous monster]]. There's a reason this ability is called "Insanity," though--[[spoiler:he doesn't actually change, he just goes into an UnstoppableRage and tears foes apart, hallucinating that it's not really him]].

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* In the ''{{Geneforge}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Geneforge}}'' series, serviles aren't able to do magic until the proper Geneforge and canisters are developed. Before then, though, a few serviles would develop the ability to cast spells anyway, [[TrainingFromHell by forming small cults where they could meditate and engage in self-harm]] until they went insane.
* ''TheSuffering'' ''VideoGame/TheSuffering'' has some fun with this. The main character has suffered blackouts his whole life, and in-game develops the ability to trigger those blackouts and [[SuperpoweredEvilSide turn into a hideous monster]]. There's a reason this ability is called "Insanity," though--[[spoiler:he doesn't actually change, he just goes into an UnstoppableRage and tears foes apart, hallucinating that it's not really him]].
28th Dec '16 12:07:49 PM Schol-R-LEA
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[[caption-width-right:200:I told you, [[Literature/TheAdventuresOfSamuraiCat Uncle]]! I have the strength born of madness!]]
12th Dec '16 11:30:14 AM KingClark
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** Nightmare Moon seemed to be this - at least Princess Luna seemed much weaker once she'd regained her sanity. However, when she returned in the second season, we find out that she is in fact so powerful as herself that she can be destructive ''without meaning it'' if she doesn't work to keep a lid on her godlike powers. She seems more powerful than her sister because she is less restrained, and of course being ''evil'' is the logical extension of this.

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** Nightmare Moon seemed to be this - at this--at least Princess Luna seemed much weaker once she'd regained her sanity. However, when she returned in the second season, we find out that she is in fact so powerful as herself that she can be destructive ''without meaning it'' if she doesn't work to keep a lid on her godlike powers. She seems more powerful than her sister because she is less restrained, and of course being ''evil'' is the logical extension of this.



** While definitely the exception rather than the rule in real life, there have been an undeniable number of individuals worthy of the title of MadScientist- simply check the real life section of the respective page. In science as in math, sometimes a [[TheCuckoolanderWasRight novel approach]] leads to a novel discovery, and more than a few [[TheyCalledMeMad discoveries]] have been achieved in [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatomy_murder ethically questionable circumstances]]

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** While definitely the exception rather than the rule in real life, there have been an undeniable number of individuals worthy of the title of MadScientist- simply MadScientist--simply check the real life section of the respective page. In science as in math, sometimes a [[TheCuckoolanderWasRight novel approach]] leads to a novel discovery, and more than a few [[TheyCalledMeMad discoveries]] have been achieved in [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatomy_murder ethically questionable circumstances]]
28th Oct '16 2:37:38 PM Arachnos
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** The most extreme case is [[http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=230788 Laboratory Maniac]]. Normally, an empty library would cause you to lose the game (having lost your mind completely). If a Laboratory Maniac is on the field, an empty library makes you '''win''' the game instead.
18th Oct '16 7:07:04 PM trixus
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** Deadpool is an interesting example of both WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity AND this. His lunacy is due to having been imbued with superhuman regeneration while suffering from terminal cancer, which means that his brain is constantly rotting away and regenerating back. However, this same insanity grants him several [[BreakingTheFourthWall perks]] that increase his power even further.

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** Deadpool is an interesting example of both WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity AND this. His lunacy is due to having been imbued with superhuman regeneration while suffering from terminal cancer, cancer (or just made him more insane depending on the stories), which means that his brain is constantly rotting away and regenerating back. However, this same insanity grants him several [[BreakingTheFourthWall perks]] that increase his power even further.
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