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13th Jan '18 12:01:05 AM Eievie
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As "PWP", a shorthand flag for stories whose sole purpose is to present a sexually-explicit situation ([[SturgeonsLaw very often]] [[TheoremOfNarrowInterests not very]] [[IKEAErotica well-written]]); "stroke story" is another term for the same, especially in erotica. A PWP is almost always a short story, as going more than a few scenes runs the risk of accidentally discovering a plot which may well [[PlotTumor take over the story]] and shove the explicit sexual content off to the side.

However there exist many multichapter PWP fanfics written with the intention of cramming as many explicit sex scenes in as possible - some of these end up discovering a (gasp!) plot, with the sex subsiding and then happening only every ''other'' chapter, [[SarcasmMode which rather spoils the whole experience.]]

[=PWPs=] are convenient for the writer who wants to produce smut, because they do not require [[BackStory justification]], they simply happen with no explanation. PWP can also stand for "'''P'''erson '''W'''ith '''P'''erson", because of the frequent occurrence of... [[CrackPairing non-standard]] couplings, similarly without the need for justification. Many years ago, its most common translation was "Plot? What Plot?", although that meaning has faded, except among the much older fanbases (such as ''Franchise/StarTrek'').

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As "PWP", PWP is an acronym that stands for Porn Without Plot. It's a shorthand flag for stories whose sole purpose is to present a sexually-explicit situation ([[SturgeonsLaw very often]] [[TheoremOfNarrowInterests not very]] [[IKEAErotica well-written]]); "stroke story" is another term for the same, especially in erotica. A PWP is almost always a short story, as going more than a few scenes runs the risk of accidentally discovering a plot which may well [[PlotTumor take over the story]] and shove the explicit sexual content off to the side.

However there exist many multichapter PWP fanfics written with the intention of cramming as many explicit sex scenes in as possible - -- some of these end up discovering a (gasp!) plot, with the sex subsiding and then happening only every ''other'' chapter, [[SarcasmMode which rather spoils the whole experience.]]

[=PWPs=] are convenient for the writer who wants to produce smut, because they do not require [[BackStory justification]], they simply happen with no explanation. PWP can also stand for "'''P'''erson '''W'''ith '''P'''erson", because of the frequent occurrence of... [[CrackPairing non-standard]] couplings, similarly without the need for justification. Many years ago, its most common translation was "Plot? What Plot?", Plot?" although that meaning has somewhat faded, except among the much older fanbases (such as ''Franchise/StarTrek'').



YMMV variant: Sexually explicit mainstream films and TV shows, especially shows who have unsimulated sexual scenes (something becoming less rare in film than it used to be) are often accused - sometimes accurately, often not - as being this. Conversely there are many pornographic films that have very strong plots (so much so that many have been released in non-hardcore and even non-sexual edits and still stand up; examples include ''Cafe Flesh'' and ''Star Wars XXX'').

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YMMV variant: Sexually explicit mainstream films and TV shows, especially shows who have unsimulated sexual scenes (something becoming less rare in film than it used to be) are often accused - sometimes accurately, often not - -- as being this. Conversely there are many pornographic films that have very strong plots (so much so that many have been released in non-hardcore and even non-sexual edits and still stand up; examples include ''Cafe Flesh'' and ''Star Wars XXX'').



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-->'''Bard:''' There's no real moral to this story. ({{beat}}) Or even a story, to be honest. There is a lot of fucking, though. [[TitleDrop Perhaps]] that's enough.

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* Pretty much any visual novel out there that mainly exists to sell out sex scenes with little regard to story except maybe ExcusePlot (if that), hence the term "nukige" ("extract") when labeling the type of visual novel. Any visual novels that aren't "nukige" are either without any sex at all, or PornWithPlot.

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-->'''Bard:''' There's no real moral to this story. ({{beat}}) ''[{{beat}}]'' Or even a story, to be honest. There is a lot of fucking, though. [[TitleDrop Perhaps]] that's enough.

[[AC:VisualNovels]]
* Pretty much any visual novel out there that mainly exists to sell out sex scenes with little regard to story except maybe ExcusePlot (if that), hence the term "nukige" ("extract") when labeling the type of visual novel. Any visual novels that aren't "nukige" are either without any sex at all, or PornWithPlot.
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29th Dec '17 9:18:02 PM TheKaizerreich
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* Pretty much any visual novels out there that mainly exist to sell out sex scenes, hence the term "nukige" when labeling the type of visual novel. Any visual novels that aren't "nukige" are the ones with PornWithPlot.

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* Pretty much any visual novels novel out there that mainly exist exists to sell out sex scenes, scenes with little regard to story except maybe ExcusePlot (if that), hence the term "nukige" ("extract") when labeling the type of visual novel. Any visual novels that aren't "nukige" are the ones with either without any sex at all, or PornWithPlot.
29th Dec '17 9:15:50 PM TheKaizerreich
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* Interestingly, this is where the word "{{Yaoi}}" comes from. It was originally used to refer to plotless gay erotica, and was an abbreviation of "'''ya'''ma nashi, '''o'''chi nashi, '''i'''mi nashi" (no plot, no point, no meaning), and rapidly spread in usage from there. Male/male romance in general is [[InsistentTerminology more properly referred to as]] the Boys' Love Genre, [[BleachedUnderpants for reasons that]] [[PornWithPlot should be obvious]].

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* Interestingly, this is where the word "{{Yaoi}}" comes from. It was originally used to refer to plotless gay erotica, and was an abbreviation of "'''ya'''ma nashi, '''o'''chi nashi, '''i'''mi nashi" (no plot, no point, no meaning), and rapidly spread in usage from there. Male/male romance in general is [[InsistentTerminology more properly referred to as]] the Boys' Love Genre, [[BleachedUnderpants for reasons that]] [[PornWithPlot should be obvious]].
obvious]]. ''OtokonokoGenre'' is also distinct from {{Yaoi}}, because the former is directed at men (themselves crossdressers, or not, doesn't really matter), while the latter is for women. Otokono genre stories can be anything from cute crossdresser-with-guy (or sometimes girl) romantic comedy, to more {{Ecchi}}, to this trope.
24th Aug '17 6:11:12 AM BrendanRizzo
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As "PWP", a shorthand flag for stories whose sole purpose is to present a sexually-explicit situation ([[SturgeonsLaw very often]] not very [[IKEAErotica well-written]]); "stroke story" is another term for the same, especially in erotica. A PWP is almost always a short story, as going more than a few scenes runs the risk of accidentally discovering a plot which may well [[PlotTumor take over the story]] and shove the explicit sexual content off to the side.

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As "PWP", a shorthand flag for stories whose sole purpose is to present a sexually-explicit situation ([[SturgeonsLaw very often]] [[TheoremOfNarrowInterests not very very]] [[IKEAErotica well-written]]); "stroke story" is another term for the same, especially in erotica. A PWP is almost always a short story, as going more than a few scenes runs the risk of accidentally discovering a plot which may well [[PlotTumor take over the story]] and shove the explicit sexual content off to the side.
16th May '17 6:26:39 AM TroperNo9001
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27th Oct '16 6:19:44 PM Fireblood
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* Discussed by Creator/UmbertoEco in one of his non-fiction books where he says that you can tell the difference between a Porn movie and an Art movie that just happens to feature explicit sex scenes in that, in a Porn movie it takes a character exactly as long to do something mundane like drink a glass of water as it would in real life (because the director doesn't want to bother with anything more than will probably be fast forwarded through anyway).

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* Discussed by Creator/UmbertoEco in one of his non-fiction books where he says that you can tell the difference between a Porn movie and an Art movie that just happens to feature explicit sex scenes in that, that in a Porn movie it takes a character exactly as long to do something mundane like drink a glass of water as it would in real life (because the director doesn't want to bother with anything more than that will probably be fast forwarded through anyway).



* In one episode of ''Series/{{Coupling}}'', Steve feels compelled to defend pornogr- ''erotica'';

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* In one episode of ''Series/{{Coupling}}'', Steve feels compelled to defend pornogr- ''erotica'';''erotica'':



'''Susan:''' A plot you can't summarise in diagrams!

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'''Susan:''' A plot you can't summarise summarize in diagrams!
19th Aug '16 10:02:07 PM Salsh_Loli
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[[AC:{{VisualNovels}}]]
* Pretty much any visual novels out there that mainly exist to sell out sex scenes, hence the term "nukige" when labeling the type of visual novel. Any visual novels that aren't "nukige" are the ones with PornWithPlot.
17th Jul '16 10:06:06 AM FF32
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* In the ''Webcomic/{{Oglaf}}'' strip "Perhaps", a bard sings of several completely unrelated couples that have sex for no reason. In the end, he admits:
-->'''Bard:''' There's no real moral to this story. ({{beat}}) Or even a story, to be honest. There is a lot of fucking, though. [[TitleDrop Perhaps]] that's enough.
15th Mar '16 5:11:44 PM Wyldchyld
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[=PWPs=] are convenient for the writer who wants to produce smut, because they do not require [[BackStory justification]], they simply happen with no explanation. PWP can also stand for "'''P'''erson '''W'''ith '''P'''erson", because of the frequent occurrence of... [[CrackPairing non-standard]] couplings, similarly without the need for justification.

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[=PWPs=] are convenient for the writer who wants to produce smut, because they do not require [[BackStory justification]], they simply happen with no explanation. PWP can also stand for "'''P'''erson '''W'''ith '''P'''erson", because of the frequent occurrence of... [[CrackPairing non-standard]] couplings, similarly without the need for justification.
justification. Many years ago, its most common translation was "Plot? What Plot?", although that meaning has faded, except among the much older fanbases (such as ''Franchise/StarTrek'').
22nd Sep '15 6:26:03 PM toonman
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YMMV variant: Sexually explicit mainstream films and TV shows, especially shows who have unsimulated sexual scenes (something becoming less rare in film than it used to be) are often accused - sometimes accurately, often not - as being this. Conversely there are many pornographic films that have very strong plots (so much so that many have been released in non-hardcore and even non-sexual edits and still stand up; examples include ''Cafe Flesh'' and ''Star Wars XXX'').
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