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14th Nov '17 11:29:51 PM Fireblood
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* Rather violently inverted in Romania under communist rule. President Nicolae Ceauşescu outlawed abortion, birth control and sex education, and instituted a "celibacy tax" for women who failed to have children, with the goal of increasing the country's population. It worked, but it didn't end well. The generation he created turned out to be the one that overthrew him, ironically, as his government was unable to provide good education and jobs to all of them, leaving young people seriously disaffected. Many also were unsurprisingly unwanted by their parents and abandoned, with growing up in state orphanages not doing anything make them like Ceaucescu.

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* Rather violently inverted in Romania under communist rule. President Nicolae Ceauşescu outlawed abortion, birth control and sex education, and instituted a "celibacy tax" for women who failed to have children, with the goal of increasing the country's population. It worked, but it didn't end well. The generation he created turned out to be the one that overthrew him, ironically, as his government was unable to provide good education and jobs to all of them, leaving young people seriously disaffected. Many also were unsurprisingly unwanted by their parents and abandoned, with growing up in state orphanages not doing anything to make them like fond of Ceaucescu.



* A similar system has been implemented in Ukraine, although it has a reduced effect, as the population growth is still negative. This has resulted in many kindergartens shutting down (why keep them open when they make no money), and any parents requiring to get in line almost as soon as their child is born in order to have a shot at putting their child into one of the remaining ones.

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* A similar system has been implemented in Ukraine, although it has a reduced effect, as the population growth is still negative. This has resulted in many kindergartens shutting down (why keep them open when they make no money), money?), and any parents requiring to get in line almost as soon as their child is born in order to have a shot at putting their child into one of the remaining ones.
2nd Nov '17 12:21:15 AM Fireblood
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** They had a variation for German policy. "Pure" Aryans were encouraged to have as many children as possible through public recognition and generous state benefits, and birth control was outlawed. Tens of thousands of others including the products of miscegeneation (i.e. German and Non-Ethnic-European biological parents, generally African) and those with inheritable physical or mental conditions were forcibly sterilized. Wartime radicalisation of policy led to the bulk of the disabled population (70,273 people) being secretly euthanised under the 1939-41 Aktion T-4 programme, including 5k under-16s. Ultimately Hitler seems to have envisaged permitting 2/3 of the German population to reproduce at the very most, seeing the other 1/3 or more as being unfit to ensure the future supremacy of the German nation.
** The Nazis also had a series of variants for domestic policy outside Germany, particularly in the General Government (Polish) and Reichskomissariat Ostland, Ukraine, Muscowien, and Caucasus (USSR) zones. There would be a short-term 1/4 reduction in the size of the native populations (about 10 million Poles and 50 million Soviets) to make room for ethnic Germans settlers to be installed across the territory. After that, native population levels would be maintained or even decreased through controls on reproduction. Once the German population in those areas was sufficiently large, the remaining natives (by now fewer than 200 million) would be phased out entirely through ethnic cleansing or extermination.
* Rather violently inverted in Romania under communist rule. President Nicolae Ceauşescu outlawed abortion, birth control and sex education, and instituted a "celibacy tax" for women who failed to have children, with the goal of increasing the country's population. It worked, but it didn't end well. The generation he created turned out to be the one that overthrew him, ironically.

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** They had a variation for German policy. "Pure" Aryans were encouraged to have as many children as possible through public recognition and generous state benefits, and while birth control was outlawed.and abortion were outlawed for them. Tens of thousands of others including the products of miscegeneation (i.e. German and Non-Ethnic-European biological parents, generally African) and those with inheritable physical or mental conditions were forcibly sterilized. Wartime radicalisation of policy led to the bulk of the disabled population (70,273 people) being secretly euthanised under the 1939-41 Aktion T-4 programme, including 5k under-16s. Ultimately Hitler seems to have envisaged permitting 2/3 of the German population to reproduce at the very most, seeing the other 1/3 or more as being unfit to ensure the future supremacy of the German nation.
** The Nazis also had a series of variants for domestic policy outside Germany, particularly in the General Government (Polish) and Reichskomissariat Ostland, Ukraine, Muscowien, and Caucasus (USSR) zones. There would be a short-term 1/4 reduction in the size of the native populations (about 10 million Poles and 50 million Soviets) to make room for ethnic Germans settlers to be installed across the territory. After that, native population levels would be maintained or even decreased through controls on reproduction. Once the German population in those areas was sufficiently large, the remaining natives (by now fewer than 200 million) would be phased out entirely through ethnic cleansing or extermination. \n Abortions were permitted to non-Aryans (and sometimes forced on them) of course, along with birth control, as one step in realizing this aim.
* Rather violently inverted in Romania under communist rule. President Nicolae Ceauşescu outlawed abortion, birth control and sex education, and instituted a "celibacy tax" for women who failed to have children, with the goal of increasing the country's population. It worked, but it didn't end well. The generation he created turned out to be the one that overthrew him, ironically.ironically, as his government was unable to provide good education and jobs to all of them, leaving young people seriously disaffected. Many also were unsurprisingly unwanted by their parents and abandoned, with growing up in state orphanages not doing anything make them like Ceaucescu.



* Inverted in the New France colony where people where given a reward to have many children.

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* Inverted in the New France colony where people where were given a reward to have many children.



* Somewhat inverted in the case of the Soviet Union, where there was a tax placed on being a bachelor. While it is not explicitly a pro-birth measure, the implication was that it would lead to more births. The idea was that anyone who didn't marry and have kids didn't contribute enough to the state and the people. After all, any child is a future worker/peasant loyal to the party.
* Although not state-enforced (and is in fact a level of embarrassment to the government), Japan is currently undergoing a self-inflicted state of population control, with its growth rate currently being ''negative'' (as in more people die than are being born). There are several factors towards this, but at the end of the day it is as the [[{{UsefulNotes/Japan}} Useful Notes]] page [[UsefulNotes/JapanesePoliticalSystem says on the Japanese government]], "Japan has forgotten how to make babies".

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* Somewhat inverted in the case of the Soviet Union, where there was a tax placed on being a bachelor. While it is was not explicitly a pro-birth measure, the implication was that it would lead to more births. The idea was that anyone who didn't marry and have kids didn't contribute enough to the state and the people. After all, any child is a future worker/peasant loyal to the party.
* Although not state-enforced (and is in fact a level of embarrassment to the government), Japan is currently undergoing a self-inflicted state of population control, with its growth rate currently being ''negative'' (as in more people die than are being born). There are several factors towards this, but at the end of the day it is as the [[{{UsefulNotes/Japan}} Useful Notes]] page [[UsefulNotes/JapanesePoliticalSystem says on the Japanese government]], government]]: "Japan has forgotten how to make babies".
2nd Nov '17 12:10:34 AM Fireblood
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* ''Literature/QuintaglioAscension'': The Quintaglious have Bloodpriests who ritually kill seven out of eight hatchlings to cull the race and insure their territorial instincts don't overwhelm them with too many people around. [[spoiler: Later they are violently purged for it.]]
24th Oct '17 8:04:45 PM PaulA
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* In another Niven verse, ''A World Out Of Time'', the State has become a OneWorldOrder where IndividualityIsIllegal, and only massive fusion-powered desalinators on every shoreline can provide enough fresh water for the massive population. A few generations back, the State instituted compulsory sterilization for all those with harmful genes, both for eugenic reasons, to save money on heath care, and to slow the rapid population growth. No wonder they're so desperate to {{Terraform}}.

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* In another Niven verse, ''A World Out Of Time'', ''Literature/AWorldOutOfTime'', the State has become a OneWorldOrder where IndividualityIsIllegal, and only massive fusion-powered desalinators on every shoreline can provide enough fresh water for the massive population. A few generations back, the State instituted compulsory sterilization for all those with harmful genes, both for eugenic reasons, to save money on heath care, and to slow the rapid population growth. No wonder they're so desperate to {{Terraform}}.
6th Aug '17 7:58:01 AM zarpaulus
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Stellaris}}'' empires can impose population controls on a species, though not on the empire's founding race, which prevents new [=POPs=] of that species from growing in the empire. The "Utopia" DLC also adds species-wide neutering, as a form of [[WouldBeRudeToSayGenocide Purge]].
6th Aug '17 1:08:47 AM Fireblood
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* ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' has a third season episode, "The Mark of Gideon", where a planet's failure to deal with this led to ridiculously extreme overcrowding (though no problems with health or resources, apparently). The episode first aired in 1969.

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* ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' has a third season episode, "The Mark of Gideon", where a planet's failure to deal with this led to ridiculously extreme overcrowding (though no problems with health or resources, apparently). The episode first aired in 1969. Kirk advocated birth control for them and offered to provide contraceptive devices (his stance was very controversial at the time, but seems [[SocietyMarchesOn blatantly obvious to most]] now).



* ''Series/TheLottery'' has the government forced to do this, in response to a mysterious interruption to the reproductive ability of the human species. The desis, if it is that, is also putting a control by stopping the population from growing any further.
* On ''Series/{{The 100}}'' the Ark has a one-child policy in order to reduce its population and conserve resources. To this same end, [[AllCrimesAreEqual it applies the death penalty towards even the most minor crimes]], and if resources are becoming truly scarce, the Ark's government is authorized to start [[DeadlyEuphemism "culling"]] large swaths of the population. Octavia was actually an illegal birth, leading to her spending her life hiding in floor panels. She [[CantGetAwayWithNothing is caught the first time she leaves her room]] leading to her arrest and her mother's execution.
* In ''Series/{{Fringe}},'' the United States government in the AlternateUniverse has proposed a bill that would enact a two-child policy. While most citizens are opposed to the bill, members from two of the three major political parties support it.

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* ''Series/TheLottery'' has the government forced to do this, in response to a mysterious interruption to the reproductive ability of the human species. The desis, disease, if it is that, is also putting a control by stopping the population from growing any further.
* On ''Series/{{The 100}}'' the Ark has a one-child policy in order to reduce its population and conserve resources. To this same end, [[AllCrimesAreEqual it applies the death penalty towards even the most minor crimes]], and if resources are becoming truly scarce, the Ark's government is authorized to start [[DeadlyEuphemism "culling"]] large swaths of the population. Octavia was actually an illegal birth, leading to her spending her life hiding in floor panels. She [[CantGetAwayWithNothing is caught the first time she leaves her room]] room]], leading to her arrest and her mother's execution.
* In ''Series/{{Fringe}},'' the United States government in the AlternateUniverse AlternateUniverse, has proposed a bill that would enact a two-child policy. While most citizens are opposed to the bill, members from two of the three major political parties support it.
15th Jul '17 9:53:56 AM nombretomado
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This trope is most common in literary science fiction from the '60s and '70s; it died out as a trope because ''while it had its heyday in fiction'', the post-WorldWarII Baby Boom came to an end as living standards and opportunities for women in North America and Western Europe expanded and people ''chose'' to have fewer children starting later in life. Since then, the pattern has held and spread to other parts of the world, largely making this a DeadHorseTrope.

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This trope is most common in literary science fiction from the '60s and '70s; it died out as a trope because ''while it had its heyday in fiction'', the post-WorldWarII post-UsefulNotes/WorldWarII Baby Boom came to an end as living standards and opportunities for women in North America and Western Europe expanded and people ''chose'' to have fewer children starting later in life. Since then, the pattern has held and spread to other parts of the world, largely making this a DeadHorseTrope.



* Australia's "Populate or Perish" policy after WorldWarII, as a response to the YellowPeril. While a rise in the birthrate was encouraged, the main emphasis was on immigration as it would increase the population quicker.

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* Australia's "Populate or Perish" policy after WorldWarII, UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, as a response to the YellowPeril. While a rise in the birthrate was encouraged, the main emphasis was on immigration as it would increase the population quicker.
2nd Jul '17 2:47:03 PM megarockman
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* China's one-child policy (before the policy was instituted, China ''encouraged'' births), although there were ''many'' loopholes (you can have two kids if you live abroad, or, presumably as many as you want if you've emigrated ''permanently'', if both parents are only children, if you've divorced and remarried, or if you're an ethnic minority). Also, [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney money helps]]. Eventually, China experienced the same "prosperity + improving women's rights = smaller families" formula as happened in the West starting in the '60s and '70s - the one-child policy now largely stands on its own institutional inertia. Combined with an ''equally'' inertial culture of misogyny, this led to couples aborting female fetuses and [[ParentalAbandonment abandoning baby daughters]] (that often ended up [[HappilyAdopted being adopted by western families]]) so they can try again for a son. This naturally came back to [[HoistByHisOwnPetard bite the country in the ass]] ''hard'', as now [[MarsNeedsWomen China Desperately Needs Women]].
** As of 2016, this policy has been changed to a two-child policy, and Chinese couples are now allowed two children.

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* China's one-child policy introduced in 1979 (before the policy was instituted, China ''encouraged'' births), births through the 1960's), although there were ''many'' loopholes (you can could have two kids if you live abroad, abroad or, presumably presumably, as many as you want if you've you emigrated ''permanently'', ''permanently''; if both parents are were only children, children; if you've divorced and remarried, remarried; or if you're an ethnic minority). Also, [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney money helps]]. Eventually, China experienced the same "prosperity + improving women's rights = smaller families" formula as had happened in the West starting in the '60s and '70s - by the new millennium the one-child policy now largely stands stood on its own institutional inertia. Combined with an ''equally'' inertial culture of misogyny, this led to couples aborting female fetuses and [[ParentalAbandonment abandoning baby daughters]] (that (who often ended up [[HappilyAdopted being adopted by western families]]) so they can could try again for a son. This naturally came back to [[HoistByHisOwnPetard bite the country in the ass]] ''hard'', as now [[MarsNeedsWomen China Desperately Needs Women]].
** As of 2016, this policy has been changed
Women]]. China moved to a two-child policy, and Chinese couples are now allowed two children.policy in 2016, but 35 years of the one-child policy has left its mark on China's demographics - according to the CIA, China is tied for the most male under-15 population in the world at 1.17 boys for every girl.
22nd May '17 12:15:29 PM Linda58
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* On ''Series/{{The 100}}'' the Ark has a one-child policy in order to reduce its population and conserve resources. To this same end, [[AllCrimesAreEqual it applies the death penalty towards even the most minor crimes]], and if resources are becoming truly scarce, the Ark's government is authorized to start [[DeadlyEuphemism "culling"]] large swaths of the population.

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* On ''Series/{{The 100}}'' the Ark has a one-child policy in order to reduce its population and conserve resources. To this same end, [[AllCrimesAreEqual it applies the death penalty towards even the most minor crimes]], and if resources are becoming truly scarce, the Ark's government is authorized to start [[DeadlyEuphemism "culling"]] large swaths of the population. Octavia was actually an illegal birth, leading to her spending her life hiding in floor panels. She [[CantGetAwayWithNothing is caught the first time she leaves her room]] leading to her arrest and her mother's execution.
29th Apr '17 10:42:53 PM Xtifr
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* ''Carnival'' by Elizabeth Bear has an AI that determines the maximum stable population of Earth and selects people to be killed whenever it is exceeded.

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* ''Carnival'' by Elizabeth Bear Creator/ElizabethBear has an AI that determines the maximum stable population of Earth and selects people to be killed whenever it is exceeded.
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