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24th Apr '17 8:06:48 PM DeisTheAlcano
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* Discussed in ''ComicBook/TheUnbelievableGwenpool''. Being an avid comic book reader that somehow found her way into the mainstream Marvel universe, Gwen is perfectly aware that she is in a book and that she has nothing to fear but cancellation. When going up against SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}, she is sure she will win because he's just a guest star in her book. Deadpool points out that he has an enormous fanbase and there is no way a D-lister like her could kill him which he demonstrates by easily overpowering her and her team. The only way she survives is by pointing out that the low-tier villain that trapped them and forced them to fight is the actual antagonist of the crossover which makes Deadpool realize they should team up to go after him instead.
19th Apr '17 9:51:44 PM twingle93
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ComicBooks tend to fall to this a lot, much like an EnsembleDarkHorse but canonized in media. The super hero in question is usually the kind that stars in WolverinePublicity or is a BadassNormal in a team of supers. Authors then give them PowerCreepPowerSeep until they can take on anyone and win [[NoSell without flinching]], or at least won't lose, to someone who should easily beat them. The means to this are usually liberal applications of PlotInducedStupidity to the opponent, a few {{Contrived Coincidence}}s to help the hero (a fire extinguisher near a fire villain), or JokerImmunity to make a popular villain's outright defeat impossible.

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ComicBooks tend to fall to this a lot, much like an EnsembleDarkHorse but canonized in media. The super hero in question is usually the kind that stars in WolverinePublicity or is a BadassNormal in a team of supers. Authors then give them PowerCreepPowerSeep until they can take on anyone and win [[NoSell without flinching]], or at least won't lose, to someone who should easily beat them. The means to this are usually liberal applications of PlotInducedStupidity or ForgotAboutHisPowers to the opponent, a few {{Contrived Coincidence}}s to help the hero (a fire extinguisher near a fire villain), or JokerImmunity to make a popular villain's outright defeat impossible.
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9th Apr '17 5:12:27 PM MagBas
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** [[ZigZaggedTrope However]], some of their later videos have been accused of this in regards to featuring franchise/shows/games that was massively popular around the time of its debut, or plays into a characters Hatedom. Some of the more [[InternetBackdraft infamous]] examples include "[[Franchise/{{Transformers}} Starscream]] VS [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Rainbow Dash]]" where [[spoiler: Rainbow Dash won by a combination of abilities that were either used as one-off gags from the show or never actually shown to translate into combat, while Starscream's incompetence was really played up]], pretty any of [[Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog Shadow's]] matches where [[spoiler: he never lands a scratch on his opponents even in his SuperMode, which has be shown to take on PhysicalGod level characters in the games themselves. Even many of Shadow haters/Sonic haters have admitted to these matches being in poor taste.]] And then there's "[[VideoGame/{{Overwatch}} Tracer]] VS [[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 Scout]]" where [[spoiler: Tracer got access to many of her powers from the comics while Scout was limited to the game itself, and the fact that Scout was taking damage while under the effects of something that should render him invulnerable. The most egregious part would likely be how they went out of their way to disprove the Scout's ability to tank missiles while they gave Tracer's ability to tank damage serious consideration.]] Needless to say, bringing up the show, these episodes, in particular, is a very [[InternetBackdraft hot button]] topic online, with many using them as examples of how Death Battle has become [[MoneyDearBoy yet another internet show that lets characters win if it'll bring in the dollar signs.]]
9th Apr '17 4:34:09 PM TokoWH
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** [[ZigZaggedTrope However]], some of their later videos have been accused of this in regards to featuring franchise/shows/games that was massively popular around the time of its debut, or plays into a characters Hatedom. Some of the more [[InternetBackdraft infamous]] examples include "[[Franchise/{{Transformers}} Starscream]] VS [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Rainbow Dash]]" where [[spoiler: Rainbow Dash won by a combination of abilities that were either used as one-off gags from the show or never actually shown to translate into combat, while Starscream's incompetence was really played up]], pretty any of [[Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog Shadow's]] matches where [[spoiler: he never lands a scratch on his opponents even in his SuperMode, which has be shown to take on PhysicalGod level characters in the games themselves. Even many Shadow haters/Sonic haters have admitted to be in poor taste.]] And then there's "[[VideoGame/{{Overwatch}} Tracer]] VS [[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 Scout]]" where [[spoiler: Tracer got access to many of her powers from the comics while Scout was limited to the game itself, and the fact that Scout was taking damage while under the effects of something that should render him invulnerable. The most egregious part would likely be how they went out of their way to disprove the Scout's ability to tank missiles while they gave Tracer's ability to tank damage serious consideration.]] Needless to say, bringing up the show, these episodes, in particular, is a very [[InternetBackdraft hot button]] topic online, with many using them as examples of how Death Battle has become [[MoneyDearBoy yet another internet show that lets characters win if it'll bring in the dollar signs.]]

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** [[ZigZaggedTrope However]], some of their later videos have been accused of this in regards to featuring franchise/shows/games that was massively popular around the time of its debut, or plays into a characters Hatedom. Some of the more [[InternetBackdraft infamous]] examples include "[[Franchise/{{Transformers}} Starscream]] VS [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Rainbow Dash]]" where [[spoiler: Rainbow Dash won by a combination of abilities that were either used as one-off gags from the show or never actually shown to translate into combat, while Starscream's incompetence was really played up]], pretty any of [[Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog Shadow's]] matches where [[spoiler: he never lands a scratch on his opponents even in his SuperMode, which has be shown to take on PhysicalGod level characters in the games themselves. Even many of Shadow haters/Sonic haters have admitted to be these matches being in poor taste.]] And then there's "[[VideoGame/{{Overwatch}} Tracer]] VS [[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 Scout]]" where [[spoiler: Tracer got access to many of her powers from the comics while Scout was limited to the game itself, and the fact that Scout was taking damage while under the effects of something that should render him invulnerable. The most egregious part would likely be how they went out of their way to disprove the Scout's ability to tank missiles while they gave Tracer's ability to tank damage serious consideration.]] Needless to say, bringing up the show, these episodes, in particular, is a very [[InternetBackdraft hot button]] topic online, with many using them as examples of how Death Battle has become [[MoneyDearBoy yet another internet show that lets characters win if it'll bring in the dollar signs.]]
9th Apr '17 4:31:43 PM TokoWH
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** [[ZigZaggedTrope However]], some of their later videos have been accused of this in regards to featuring franchise/shows/games that was massively popular around the time of its debut, or plays into a characters Hatedom. Some of the more [[InternetBackdraft infamous]] examples include "[[Franchise/{{Transformers}} Starscream]] VS [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Rainbow Dash]]" where [[spoiler: Rainbow Dash won by a combination of abilities that were either used as one-off gags from the show or never actually shown to translate into combat, while Starscream's incompetence was really played up]], pretty any of [[Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog Shadow's]] matches where [[spoiler: he never lands a scratch on his opponents even in his SuperMode, which has be shown to take on PhysicaGod level characters in the games themselves. Even many Shadow haters/Sonic haters have admitted to be in poor taste.]] And then there's "[[VideoGame/{{Overwatch}} Tracer]] VS [[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 Scout]]" where [[spoiler: Tracer got access to many of her powers from the comics while Scout was limited to the game itself, and the fact that Scout was taking damage while under the effects of something that should render him invulnerable. The most egregious part would likely be how they went out of their way to disprove the Scout's ability to tank missiles while they gave Tracer's ability to tank damage serious consideration.]] Needless to say, bringing up the show, these episodes, in particular, is a very [[InternetBackdraft hot button]] topic online, with many using them as examples of how Death Battle has become [[MoneyDearBoy yet another internet show that lets characters win if it'll bring in the dollar signs.]]

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** [[ZigZaggedTrope However]], some of their later videos have been accused of this in regards to featuring franchise/shows/games that was massively popular around the time of its debut, or plays into a characters Hatedom. Some of the more [[InternetBackdraft infamous]] examples include "[[Franchise/{{Transformers}} Starscream]] VS [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Rainbow Dash]]" where [[spoiler: Rainbow Dash won by a combination of abilities that were either used as one-off gags from the show or never actually shown to translate into combat, while Starscream's incompetence was really played up]], pretty any of [[Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog Shadow's]] matches where [[spoiler: he never lands a scratch on his opponents even in his SuperMode, which has be shown to take on PhysicaGod PhysicalGod level characters in the games themselves. Even many Shadow haters/Sonic haters have admitted to be in poor taste.]] And then there's "[[VideoGame/{{Overwatch}} Tracer]] VS [[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 Scout]]" where [[spoiler: Tracer got access to many of her powers from the comics while Scout was limited to the game itself, and the fact that Scout was taking damage while under the effects of something that should render him invulnerable. The most egregious part would likely be how they went out of their way to disprove the Scout's ability to tank missiles while they gave Tracer's ability to tank damage serious consideration.]] Needless to say, bringing up the show, these episodes, in particular, is a very [[InternetBackdraft hot button]] topic online, with many using them as examples of how Death Battle has become [[MoneyDearBoy yet another internet show that lets characters win if it'll bring in the dollar signs.]]
9th Apr '17 4:30:39 PM TokoWH
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** [[ZigZaggedTrope However]], some of their later videos have been accused of this in regards to featuring franchise/shows/games that was massively popular around the time of its debut, or plays into a characters Hatedom. Some of the more [[InternetBackdraft infamous]] examples include "[[Franchise/{{Transformers}} Starscream]] VS [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Rainbow Dash]]" where [[spoiler: Rainbow Dash won by a combination of abilities that were either used as one-off gags from the show or never actually shown to translate into combat, while Starscream's incompetence was really played up]], pretty any of [[Franchise/SonicTheHedgehoh Shadow's]] matches where [[spoiler: he never lands a scratch on his opponents even in his SuperMode, which has be shown to take on PhysicaGod level characters in the games themselves. Even many Shadow haters/Sonic haters have admitted to be in poor taste.]] And then there's "[[VideoGame/{{Overwatch}} Tracer]] VS [[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 Scout]]" where [[spoiler: Tracer got access to many of her powers from the comics while Scout was limited to the game itself, and the fact that Scout was taking damage while under the effects of something that should render him invulnerable. The most egregious part would likely be how they went out of their way to disprove the Scout's ability to tank missiles while they gave Tracer's ability to tank damage serious consideration.]] Needless to say, bringing up the show, these episodes, in particular, is a very [[InternetBackdraft hot button]] topic online, with many using them as examples of how Death Battle has become [[MoneyDearBoy yet another internet show that lets characters win if it'll bring in the dollar signs.]]

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** [[ZigZaggedTrope However]], some of their later videos have been accused of this in regards to featuring franchise/shows/games that was massively popular around the time of its debut, or plays into a characters Hatedom. Some of the more [[InternetBackdraft infamous]] examples include "[[Franchise/{{Transformers}} Starscream]] VS [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Rainbow Dash]]" where [[spoiler: Rainbow Dash won by a combination of abilities that were either used as one-off gags from the show or never actually shown to translate into combat, while Starscream's incompetence was really played up]], pretty any of [[Franchise/SonicTheHedgehoh [[Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog Shadow's]] matches where [[spoiler: he never lands a scratch on his opponents even in his SuperMode, which has be shown to take on PhysicaGod level characters in the games themselves. Even many Shadow haters/Sonic haters have admitted to be in poor taste.]] And then there's "[[VideoGame/{{Overwatch}} Tracer]] VS [[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 Scout]]" where [[spoiler: Tracer got access to many of her powers from the comics while Scout was limited to the game itself, and the fact that Scout was taking damage while under the effects of something that should render him invulnerable. The most egregious part would likely be how they went out of their way to disprove the Scout's ability to tank missiles while they gave Tracer's ability to tank damage serious consideration.]] Needless to say, bringing up the show, these episodes, in particular, is a very [[InternetBackdraft hot button]] topic online, with many using them as examples of how Death Battle has become [[MoneyDearBoy yet another internet show that lets characters win if it'll bring in the dollar signs.]]
9th Apr '17 4:29:51 PM TokoWH
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** [[ZigZaggedTrope However]], some of their later videos have been accused of this in regards to featuring franchise/shows/games that was massively popular around the time of its debut, or plays into a characters Hatedom. Some of the more [[InternetBackdraft infamous]] examples include "[[Franchise/{{Transformers}} Starscream]] VS [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Rainbow Dash]]" where [[spoiler: Rainbow Dash won by a combination of abilities that were either used as one-off gags from the show or never actually shown to translate into combat, while Starscream's incompetence was really played up]], pretty any of [[Franchise/SonicTheHedgehoh Shadow's]] matches where [[spoiler: he never lands a scratch on his opponents even in his SuperMode, which has be shown to take on PhysicaGod level characters in the games themselves. Even many Shadow haters/Sonic haters have admitted to be in poor taste.]] And then there's "[[VideoGame/{{Overwatch}} Tracer]] VS [[VideoGame/TeamFortress2 Scout]]" where [[spoiler: Tracer got access to many of her powers from the comics while Scout was limited to the game itself, and the fact that Scout was taking damage while under the effects of something that should render him invulnerable. The most egregious part would likely be how they went out of their way to disprove the Scout's ability to tank missiles while they gave Tracer's ability to tank damage serious consideration.]] Needless to say, bringing up the show, these episodes, in particular, is a very [[InternetBackdraft hot button]] topic online, with many using them as examples of how Death Battle has become [[MoneyDearBoy yet another internet show that lets characters win if it'll bring in the dollar signs.]]
5th Mar '17 7:53:03 PM nombretomado
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** Said incident was even mocked by Spidey himself in ''MarvelUltimateAlliance 2'', assuming you play as him during the endgame.

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** Said incident was even mocked by Spidey himself in ''MarvelUltimateAlliance 2'', ''VideoGame/MarvelUltimateAlliance2'', assuming you play as him during the endgame.
21st Jan '17 5:43:04 AM IndirectActiveTransport
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* ProfessionalWrestling uses this trope to full advantage of course, with most wrestlers' positions on the cards determined entirely by how popular they are. However, most pro wrestling promoters aren't above subverting the trope, whether it's to launch a new character, keep things unpredictable, or simply to give the fans a happy moment as the dominant {{heel}} gets beaten by the lowest of the low.

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* ProfessionalWrestling uses this trope to full advantage of course, with most wrestlers' positions on the cards determined entirely by how popular they are. However, most pro wrestling promoters aren't above subverting the trope, whether it's to launch establish a new character, gimmick, keep things unpredictable, or simply to give the fans a happy moment as the dominant {{heel}} gets beaten by the lowest of the low.



** See, WWE's plan was to push Wrestling/{{Jacqueline}} but untrained Sable got really popular and got pushed instead. Then Wrestling/TrishStratus, who had spent her first year as a valet, defeated Wrestling/{{Ivory}} in a match so fans began to take her seriously as a wrestler instead of that model. Since then it hasn't worked. When Kelly Kelly became Divas Champion and went over on Beth Phoenix twice, fans Wrestling/{{c|rowdchant}}hanted "BULL-SHIT!!" at her.
** Subverted with the debut of [[Wrestling/BellaTwins Brie Bella]] on ''[=SmackDown=]'', who was immediately put into a match against former Women's Champion [[Wrestling/LisaMarieVaron Victoria]]. Brie at first played the part of a LovableCoward, hiding from Victoria under the ring only to magically reappear from out from the under the other side of the ring, slip behind Victoria, and roll her up for a pin. Yes, in her very first match! Then it was eventually revealed that the girl who'd pinned Victoria was Brie's twin sister, Nikki, who had switched places with her in the middle of the match. (And then, double-subverted in that both of the Bella Twins remained faces for a time).

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** See, WWE's plan was to push Wrestling/{{Jacqueline}} but untrained Sable got really popular and got pushed instead. Then Wrestling/TrishStratus, who had spent her first year as a valet, defeated Wrestling/{{Ivory}} in a match so fans began to take her seriously as a wrestler instead of that another model. Since then it hasn't worked. When Kelly Kelly became Divas Champion and went over on Beth Phoenix twice, fans Wrestling/{{c|rowdchant}}hanted "BULL-SHIT!!" at her.
** Subverted with the debut of [[Wrestling/BellaTwins Brie Bella]] on ''[=SmackDown=]'', who was immediately put into a match against former Women's Champion [[Wrestling/LisaMarieVaron Victoria]]. Brie at first played the part of a LovableCoward, hiding from Victoria under the ring only to magically reappear from out from the under the other side of the ring, slip behind Victoria, and roll her up for a pin. Yes, in her very first match! Then it was eventually revealed that the girl who'd pinned Victoria was Brie's twin sister, Nikki, who had [[TagTeamTwins switched places with her in the middle of the match.match]]. (And then, double-subverted in that both of the Bella Twins remained faces for a time).



* If a heel gets popular enough they may make a HeelFaceTurn (which tends to curb said popularity, making them do a FaceHeelTurn and so on and so forth). The most notable example in recent years is Wrestling/RandyOrton. Every time he attacked someone, people cheered him on, even when said person that was attacked was a highly popular face. It eventually reached a point that they had no choice but to turn Orton himself face. The dissolution of Legacy was originally have Wrestling/TedDibiaseJr as the face and Randy and Wrestling/CodyRhodes as the heels. However, Randy's popularity made it so they had to rewrite the storyline to make him the face. And his popularity continued to the point that he stayed face for three years and was only able to turn heel against the massively over Wrestling/DanielBryan, seeing as (with the exception of Wrestling/CMPunk), attacking anyone else would have still gotten him cheered.
** It should be noted that the only thing that changed about Randy's character was who he attacked. Otherwise he was still the same sadistic psychopath he's always been.
* The only times Wrestling/ShawnMichaels isn't booed in Canada is when he's in [[Wrestling/DGenerationX DX]], supposedly because of this trope. In fact, Shawn's so popular that his ChronicBackstabbingDisorder never managed to make the fans boo him -- until he screwed the massively over Wrestling/DanielBryan out of the WWE Championship.

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* If a heel gets popular enough they may make a HeelFaceTurn (which tends to curb said popularity, making them do a FaceHeelTurn and so on and so forth). The most notable example in recent years Ruthless Aggression and PGWWE is Wrestling/RandyOrton. Every time he attacked someone, people cheered him on, even when said person that was attacked was a highly popular face. It eventually reached a point that they had no choice but to turn Orton himself face. The dissolution of Legacy was originally have Wrestling/TedDibiaseJr as the face and Randy and Wrestling/CodyRhodes as the heels. However, Randy's popularity made it so they had to rewrite the storyline to make him the face. And his popularity continued to the point that he stayed face for three years and was only able to turn heel against the massively over Wrestling/DanielBryan, seeing as (with the exception of Wrestling/CMPunk), attacking anyone else would have still gotten him cheered.
** It should be noted that the only thing that changed about Randy's character Randy was who he attacked. Otherwise he was still the same sadistic psychopath he's always been.
* The only times Wrestling/ShawnMichaels isn't booed in Canada is when he's in [[Wrestling/DGenerationX DX]], supposedly because of this trope. In fact, Shawn's so popular that his ChronicBackstabbingDisorder never managed to make the fans boo him outside of Canada -- until he screwed the massively over Wrestling/DanielBryan out of the WWE Championship.



* Despite losing in 2011's ''Forjando un Ídolo'', ''Sangre Nueva'' '''and''' ''En Busca de un Ídolo'' tournaments, Titán was able to advance to the finals of "En Busca" and win the whole thing. Why? Because Wrestling/{{CMLL}} used a point system that was determined by fans votes. Essentially, fans demanded their favorite wrestler [[ThrowTheDogABone win already]]!
* Despite grooming Wrestling/KazuchikaOkada to succeed Wrestling/HiroshiTanahashi as the new face of the company, Wrestling/NewJapanProWrestling ended up putting Hiroshi Tanahashi's matches back in the main event over Okada's, even though Okada was IWGP Heavyweight Champion. Why? Because the fans voted for Hiroshi Tanahashi to stay in the main event!
* Almost the entire reason behind Wrestling/BobSapp's success in Japan. K1 and Wrestling/{{All Japan|ProWrestling}} specifically picked him up from Wrestling/{{N|ationalWrestlingAlliance}}WA Wildside because they were in search of a ScaryBlackMan that would resemble a TV show villain but the fan response was the [[DracoInLeatherPants exact opposite]].

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* Despite losing in 2011's ''Forjando un Ídolo'', ''Sangre Nueva'' '''and''' '''[[FailureHero and]]''' ''En Busca de un Ídolo'' tournaments, Titán was able to advance to the finals of "En Busca" and win the whole thing. Why? Because Wrestling/{{CMLL}} used a point system that was determined by fans votes. Essentially, fans demanded their favorite wrestler [[ThrowTheDogABone win already]]!
* Despite grooming Wrestling/KazuchikaOkada to succeed Wrestling/HiroshiTanahashi as the new face of the company, Wrestling/NewJapanProWrestling ended up putting Hiroshi Tanahashi's matches back in the main event over Okada's, even though Okada was IWGP Heavyweight Champion. Why? Because the fans voted for Hiroshi Tanahashi to stay in the main event!
event! Historically, the IWGP Heavyweight belt hasn't necessarily been viewed as the most important of New Japan's, even thought the company usually presents it as the top prize, due to cases like this, as well as popular wrestlers like [[Wrestling/SatoruSayama Tiger Mask]] and Wrestling/ShinsukaNakamura making fans hold the Junior Heavyweight and Intercontinental belts in equal respect to it.
* Almost the entire reason behind Wrestling/BobSapp's success in Japan. K1 and Wrestling/{{All Japan|ProWrestling}} specifically picked him up from Wrestling/{{N|ationalWrestlingAlliance}}WA Wildside because they were in search of a ScaryBlackMan that would resemble a TV show villain but the fan response was the [[DracoInLeatherPants exact opposite]].opposite]] of scared.
21st Jan '17 5:23:03 AM Morgenthaler
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** And then he does it again with Compile Heart's new game, ''MugenSouls''.

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** And then he does it again with Compile Heart's new game, ''MugenSouls''.''VideoGame/MugenSouls''.
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