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13th Nov '17 11:58:14 AM ShorinBJ
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* Despite allegedly being barely superhuman, some of ComicBook/CaptainAmerica's feats have gone seemingly far beyond what he "should" be able to do. Any average human superhero or villain who goes up against him is sure to lose. Even superpowered denizens like {{Spider-Man}} and Wolverine fold before the Cap. And if that weren't enough, Captain America has actually gone rounds against [[ComicBook/SubMariner Namor]], Hulk, and the other super heavyweights of the MarvelUniverse and STILL come out on top (or at the very least, fought these beings to a draw). Why? Because he's popular. Because he wears the red, white, and blue. And to top it all off, Marvel loves him so much that they'll almost never have the guy lose, just like DC is almost never going to have Batman lose. [[spoiler: 2017's "Secret Empire" saga may actually change that, when it comes to Hydra Cap.]]

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* Despite allegedly being barely superhuman, superhuman,[[note]]He's supposedly at the absolute peak of what normal humans can be capable of, i.e. as if he trained to that level like an Olympic athlete[[/note]] some of ComicBook/CaptainAmerica's feats have gone seemingly far beyond what he "should" be able to do. Any average human superhero or villain who goes up against him is sure to lose. Even superpowered denizens like {{Spider-Man}} and Wolverine fold before the Cap. And if that weren't enough, Captain America has actually gone rounds against [[ComicBook/SubMariner Namor]], Hulk, and the other super heavyweights of the MarvelUniverse and STILL come out on top (or at the very least, fought these beings to a draw). Why? Because he's popular. Because he wears the red, white, and blue. And to top it all off, Marvel loves him so much that they'll almost never have the guy lose, just like DC is almost never going to have Batman lose. [[spoiler: 2017's "Secret Empire" saga may actually change that, when it comes to Hydra Cap.]]
17th Sep '17 11:44:51 AM nombretomado
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Note: when a character in their own title [[TheWorfEffect makes short work]] of a [[WolverinePublicity more popular or widely-known guest star]], that is '''[[NotASubversion not]]''' [[NotASubversion a subversion]] of this trope. I'm looking at you, example section.

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Note: when a character in their own title [[TheWorfEffect makes short work]] of a [[WolverinePublicity more popular or widely-known guest star]], that is '''[[NotASubversion '''[[Administrivia/NotASubversion not]]''' [[NotASubversion [[Administrivia/NotASubversion a subversion]] of this trope. I'm looking at you, example section.
14th Sep '17 7:30:34 PM GordyTepig
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** Also discussed and played with: [[spoiler: Future Gwenpool]] says that if Gwen becomes evil, she will have a long, successful comic series and could do whatever she wants. This is because the fans loved her as a villain, and her no matter how much she abuses the universe and its people, StatusQuoIsGod will be invoked and fix any damage. Our Gwen, however, rejects this future and refuses to turn evil, because she can't bare to harm all the characters she's grown to love and care about. But she's fully aware that taking away her rise to fame would prevent her from becoming a hit and keeping her book from being cancelled, likely dooming herself to one day.
14th Sep '17 1:08:02 AM Robbyn
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** Invoked again by [[spoiler: Future Gwenpool]] in the fourth arc. She kills a future version of ComicBook/MilesMorales explaining to a shocked Gwen that it's not a problem because she knows she's not allowed to do it. Indeed Miles wakes up in his bed thinking his death was just a dream.
7th Sep '17 11:34:56 AM CosmicFerret
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** One issue of Batman Confidential had him fighting several members of the proto-Justice League. He took down WonderWoman, TheFlash, Comicbook/GreenLantern, and Comicbook/{{Aquaman}}. This was their first meeting, and he didn't know what any of their abilities were when the fight started. It helped that neither did the writer. Let's see... throwing a smoke bomb in front of The Flash is yet another example of writers forgetting that 1. He has SuperReflexes and even so wouldn't immediately crash into a wall if blinded 2. If you're in a small room with The Flash, there is no time to throw something before he reaches you. There's not time for a human to do ''anything'' before he reaches you. Wonder Woman cannot be taken out by kicking her in the stomach with human strength. At a best case scenario it's ineffective. Worse case, you break your foot. The same goes for ComicBook/MartianManhunter. Batman's ability to manhandle Aquaman or utterly incapacitate Comicbook/GreenLantern with a batrope is also just slightly dubious (Aquaman has Wonder Woman levels of SuperStrength and Green Lantern can make literally anything he can think of with his ring).

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** One issue of Batman Confidential had him fighting several members of the proto-Justice League. He took down WonderWoman, TheFlash, ComicBook/TheFlash, Comicbook/GreenLantern, and Comicbook/{{Aquaman}}. This was their first meeting, and he didn't know what any of their abilities were when the fight started. It helped that neither did the writer. Let's see... throwing a smoke bomb in front of The Flash is yet another example of writers forgetting that 1. He has SuperReflexes and even so wouldn't immediately crash into a wall if blinded 2. If you're in a small room with The Flash, there is no time to throw something before he reaches you. There's not time for a human to do ''anything'' before he reaches you. Wonder Woman cannot be taken out by kicking her in the stomach with human strength. At a best case scenario it's ineffective. Worse case, you break your foot. The same goes for ComicBook/MartianManhunter. Batman's ability to manhandle Aquaman or utterly incapacitate Comicbook/GreenLantern with a batrope is also just slightly dubious (Aquaman has Wonder Woman levels of SuperStrength and Green Lantern can make literally anything he can think of with his ring).
7th Sep '17 8:40:02 AM PDL
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** Starting in Generation VI, several Pokémon have [[SuperMode Mega Evolution forms]] that make them bigger, more menacing, and more powerful. The creators have stated that the Pokémon chosen to receive Mega Evolutions are based mostly on popularity, with two of the most popular, Mewtwo and Charizard, receiving two Mega Evolution forms.

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** Starting in Generation VI, several Pokémon have [[SuperMode Mega Evolution forms]] Evolutions]] that make them bigger, more menacing, and more powerful. The creators have stated that the Pokémon chosen to receive Mega Evolutions are based mostly on popularity, with two of the most popular, Mewtwo and Charizard, receiving two Mega Evolution forms.forms each.


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** A form of this comes back for ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'' where a few Gen I Pokémon were given alternate forms known as regional variants. This is a subversion though because these forms are explicitly not a SuperMode and the Pokémon that received them were largely ignored and stayed largely the same for the [[MilestoneCelebration 20 years that the series has been around]].
1st Sep '17 12:20:49 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* The previous entry on IWGP fan votes doesn't mention who the number one contender to Okada's belt was for a reason. No Limit were once among New Japan's most popular {{tag team}}s, which basically won them a paid trip to North America, [[DemotedToExtra where they would be buried in TNA]]. Then they would rebuild in CMLL, a sign of things to come. TNA sent its World Heavyweight Champion Wrestling/JeffHardy to New Japan, NJPW attempted to use Hardy to jump start Wrestling/TetsuyaNaito's singles career and to say it [[GoneHorriblyWrong didn't work]] would be an understatement. Fans didn't care about the match, when Naito's partner Yujiro Takahashi turned on him because of the match or when Naito overcame the odds to ascend into IWGP title contention. When he was booed it was considered an improvement because fans often forgot about him entirely. So after "Okada" was voted out of the main event Naito went to Mexico again, hooked up with Rush and Log Ingobernables, saw how they turned [[XPacHeat absolute hatred from the crowd]] into [[HateSink something they could work with]] and took the idea back to NJPW to see if he could do the same with apathy. He fought his way into the G1 Climax and no one cared until they saw him basically [[TheSlacker slack]] his way to victory over an utterly perplexed [[TheAce Tanahashi]]. Fans suddenly loved Naito, who for the most part acted as if he ignored them, which made them love him more. Suddenly he was IWGP Intercontinental champion and fans were given the chance to vote for him to main event [=WrestleKingdom=] over Okada, though Naito of course [[DefiedTrope turned it down, saying NJPW should let the heavyweight title match go last like always]]. If he shows cares [[GenreSavvy he might lose support after all.]]

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* The previous entry on IWGP fan votes doesn't mention who the number one contender to Okada's belt was for a reason. No Limit were once among New Japan's most popular {{tag team}}s, which basically won them a paid trip to North America, [[DemotedToExtra where they would be buried in TNA]]. Then they would rebuild in CMLL, a sign of things to come. TNA sent its World Heavyweight Champion Wrestling/JeffHardy to New Japan, NJPW attempted to use Hardy to jump start Wrestling/TetsuyaNaito's singles career and to say it [[GoneHorriblyWrong didn't work]] would be an understatement. Fans didn't care about the match, when Naito's partner Yujiro Takahashi turned on him because of the match or when Naito overcame the odds to ascend into IWGP title contention. When he was booed it was considered an improvement because fans often forgot about him entirely. So after "Okada" was voted out of the main event Naito went to Mexico again, hooked up with Rush and Log Ingobernables, saw how they turned [[XPacHeat absolute hatred from the crowd]] into [[HateSink something they could work with]] and took the idea back to NJPW to see if he could do the same with apathy. He fought his way into the G1 Climax and no one cared until they saw him basically [[TheSlacker slack]] his way to victory over an utterly perplexed [[TheAce Tanahashi]]. Fans suddenly loved Naito, who for the most part acted as if he ignored them, which made them love him more. Suddenly he was IWGP Intercontinental champion and fans were given the chance to vote for him to main event [=WrestleKingdom=] over Okada, though Naito of course [[DefiedTrope turned it down, saying NJPW should let the heavyweight title match go last like always]]. If he shows cares [[GenreSavvy he might lose support after all.]]
30th Aug '17 3:58:26 PM HalcyonDayz
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*** It must be also noted that how much force Cap's shield can protect him also is very much DependingOnTheWriter. In one story, Daredevil punching on the shield is forcing Cap back, while in another story it can take hits from Iron Man no problem. Cyclops blasts him a mile away in one story, while in another story the shield protects him from a blast from Galactus herald Airwalker, which KOs both Iron Man and Thor who were standing right next to him. On another occasion, Cap protects himself from a blast using his shield which knocks out Wolverine and Carol Danvers, both bonafide superhumans, while in another story landing shield first from a building hurts him. In one story, he is sent rocketing from a punch from Namor UNDERWATER (where he is at his strongest) but is unharmed and in another story, landing on water from a great height shield first knocks him out. In one story She-Hulk (someone who is several times stronger than Cap) has trouble blocking a {{Mjolnir}} throw with the shield and an ordinary human dies protecting Cap from a blow from Thunder Ball in another story, but Cap has no problem blocking attacks from characters far stronger and powerful than Thor or Thunderball. Even when he has shields that do not have absorbing capabilities, he has no problem. He once using a pure adamantium shield blocked a steel beam swung by Mister Hyde, a class 50 Thor villain with no problem, which by all means should have shattered every bone in Cap's arm. Even worse, in another story, he is shown blocking hits from the Destroyer Armor with a (his orginal) steel shield, and the armor punching Thor in the same comic was shown to be shaking the entire city.

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*** It must be also noted that how much force Cap's shield can protect him also is very much DependingOnTheWriter. In one story, Daredevil punching on the shield is forcing Cap back, while in another story it can take hits from Iron Man no problem. Cyclops blasts him a mile away in one story, while in another story the shield protects him from a blast from Galactus herald Airwalker, which KOs [=KOs=] both Iron Man and Thor who were standing right next to him. On another occasion, Cap protects himself from a blast using his shield which knocks out Wolverine and Carol Danvers, both bonafide superhumans, while in another story landing shield first from a building hurts him. In one story, he is sent rocketing from a punch from Namor UNDERWATER (where he is at his strongest) but is unharmed and in another story, landing on water from a great height shield first knocks him out. In one story She-Hulk (someone who is several times stronger than Cap) has trouble blocking a {{Mjolnir}} throw with the shield and an ordinary human dies protecting Cap from a blow from Thunder Ball in another story, but Cap has no problem blocking attacks from characters far stronger and powerful than Thor or Thunderball. Even when he has shields that do not have absorbing capabilities, he has no problem. He once using a pure adamantium shield blocked a steel beam swung by Mister Hyde, a class 50 Thor villain with no problem, which by all means should have shattered every bone in Cap's arm. Even worse, in another story, he is shown blocking hits from the Destroyer Armor with a (his orginal) steel shield, and the armor punching Thor in the same comic was shown to be shaking the entire city.
24th Aug '17 1:28:11 PM DustSnitch
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* Heroes aren't the only ones with Popularity Power. ComicBook/DoctorDoom has become a villainous equivalent of Batman who can defeat anyone (given enough "prep time" (admittedly a FAR more stable claim than Batman, but still quite ridiculous)). Despite being the villain of the story, the good doctor has gained [[DracoInLeatherPants an immense following of fans]] who believe he's capable of defeating anyone and anything, including the most powerful beings in the comic books multiverse. Given enough time to study opponents, it is said that Doom could defeat ComicBook/{{Thanos}}, ComicBook/{{Galactus}}, ComicBook/{{Magneto}}, [[ComicBook/IncredibleHulk Hulk]], [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]], ComicBook/{{Darkseid}}, Franchise/{{Superman}}, Franchise/{{Batman}}, ComicBook/SilverSurfer, {{Jesus}}, and even the almighty Rubik's Cube. It really is an almost endless list.
** A really ridiculous example of Doom oozing [[GodModeSue God Mode Suedom]] was during an arc where he teamed up with Dr. Voodoo and battled their way across hordes of demons. Dr. Voodoo got taken down by Ghost Rider but before Ghost Rider could finish Voodoo, Doom came in and took Ghost Rider out with one punch. This is a highly dubious feat considering Ghost Rider has been shown to be able to fight toe to toe with Dr. Strange before, take some of his best attacks, and even defeat the Sorcerer Supreme after a brutal mystical fight. And of course, Doom's powers are only second best compared to Strange. Apparently, the message that the writers want to drive home is that one punch from Doom is greater than the sum of two Sorcerer Supremes put together.

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* Heroes aren't the only ones with Popularity Power. ComicBook/DoctorDoom has become a villainous equivalent of Batman who can defeat anyone (given enough "prep time" (admittedly a FAR more stable claim than Batman, but still quite ridiculous)). Despite being the villain of the story, the good doctor has gained [[DracoInLeatherPants an immense following of fans]] who believe he's capable of defeating anyone and anything, including the most powerful beings in the comic books multiverse. Given enough time to study opponents, it is said that Doom could defeat ComicBook/{{Thanos}}, ComicBook/{{Galactus}}, ComicBook/{{Magneto}}, [[ComicBook/IncredibleHulk Hulk]], [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor Thor]], ComicBook/{{Darkseid}}, Franchise/{{Superman}}, Franchise/{{Batman}}, ComicBook/SilverSurfer, {{Jesus}}, UsefulNotes/{{Jesus}}, and even the almighty Rubik's Cube. It really is an almost endless list.
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A really ridiculous example of Doom oozing [[GodModeSue God Mode Suedom]] was during an arc where he teamed up with Dr. Voodoo and battled their way across hordes of demons. Dr. Voodoo got taken down by Ghost Rider but before Ghost Rider could finish Voodoo, Doom came in and took Ghost Rider out with one punch. This is a highly dubious feat considering Ghost Rider has been shown to be able to fight toe to toe with Dr. Strange before, take some of his best attacks, and even defeat the Sorcerer Supreme after a brutal mystical fight. And of course, Doom's powers are only second best compared to Strange. Apparently, the message that the writers want to drive home is that one punch from Doom is greater than the sum of two Sorcerer Supremes put together.
7th Aug '17 10:56:54 PM infernape612
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* In the ''VideoGame/MegaManX'' series, Zero somehow pushed his way [[EnsembleDarkhorse from MauveShirt status to the co-protagonist role - even after ''being killed''! Later on, he also got his own series.]]

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* In the ''VideoGame/MegaManX'' series, Zero [[EnsembleDarkhorse Zero]] somehow pushed his way [[EnsembleDarkhorse from MauveShirt status to the co-protagonist role - even after ''being killed''! Later on, he also got his own series.]]
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