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23rd Aug '16 8:07:32 PM UltimateLazer
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* Music/TinieTempah is a rap superstar in his native United Kingdom. Stateside, his success began and ended with "Written in the Stars". That said, his one hit was one more than most non-American hip-hop artists can ever hope for.
18th Aug '16 6:17:48 AM Rydel
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* The UsefulNotes/UltimateFightingChampionship, AKA The [=UFC=] has dealt with this for problem for awhile, mainly due to the sport's previous violent image and detractors being unable (or unwilling) to get past it. Around the late 90's the [=UFC=] repackaged the sport as "Mixed Martial Arts" in an attempt to be taken seriously. It took a reality television show to gain wide acceptance. [=UFC=] has outsold boxing quite handily ever since '06, with '07 being the exception. Most of the sports broad casting community to this day refuses to except it as a legit sport. Some even went as far as to accuse it of being a poor (white) person's version of boxing, due to the [=UFC=]'s heavy young white male demographics compared to boxing. Today, while most people couldn't them you the names of the champions in each weight class, could at least tell you what the sport is. And with the [=UFC=]'s broadcasting deal with Creator/{{Fox}}, the days of the [=UFC=] being considered a niche sport are most likely over.

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* The UsefulNotes/UltimateFightingChampionship, AKA The [=UFC=] has dealt with this for problem for awhile, mainly due to the sport's previous violent image and detractors being unable (or unwilling) to get past it. Around the late 90's the [=UFC=] repackaged the sport as "Mixed Martial Arts" in an attempt to be taken seriously. It took a reality television show to gain wide acceptance. [=UFC=] has outsold boxing quite handily ever since '06, with '07 being the exception. Most of the sports broad casting community to this day refuses to except accept it as a legit sport. Some even went as far as to accuse it of being a poor (white) person's version of boxing, due to the [=UFC=]'s heavy young white male demographics compared to boxing. Today, while most people couldn't them you the names of the champions in each weight class, could at least tell you what the sport is. And with the [=UFC=]'s broadcasting deal with Creator/{{Fox}}, the days of the [=UFC=] being considered a niche sport are most likely over.
14th Aug '16 7:57:52 PM SirTiki
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* As strange as it may sound today, Creator/{{Disney}} fell victim to this trope for a very long time within the United States. While the studio was always massively popular from UsefulNotes/{{Chicago}} (Walt Disney's birthplace, though he preferred to think of Marceline, Missouri [[note]] the model for Disneyland's Main Street, U.S.A. [[/note]] as his ''true'' hometown) to the west coast (''especially'' in UsefulNotes/{{California}}), everywhere east of Chicago its reception was a bit more lukewarm. Film critics considered the studio's output kitschy at best, and people used the term "Mickey Mouse" to refer to something poorly constructed or put together. The main reason for the Disney attractions at the 1964 New York World's Fair was for Creator/WaltDisney to prove to his studio that there was a market for Disney on the east coast, an experiment which proved successful and ultimately culminated in the opening of Disney World in central Florida in 1971; but even then, they didn't really gain the reputation they have today until [[TheRenaissanceAgeOfAnimation the late 1980s/early 1990s]]. This was pretty much exemplified in the mid 1980s when UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity native Michael Eisner became CEO of the studio, and sheepishly admitted to the California-based board of directors that he had never actually seen a Disney film before taking the job.

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* As strange as it may sound today, Creator/{{Disney}} fell victim to this trope for a very long time within the United States. While the studio was always massively popular from UsefulNotes/{{Chicago}} (Walt Disney's birthplace, though he preferred to think of Marceline, Missouri [[note]] the model for Disneyland's Main Street, U.S.A. [[/note]] as his ''true'' hometown) to the west coast (''especially'' in UsefulNotes/{{California}}), everywhere east of Chicago its reception was a bit more lukewarm. Film critics considered the studio's output kitschy at best, and people used the term "Mickey Mouse" to refer to something poorly constructed or put together. The main reason for the Disney attractions at the 1964 New York World's Fair was for Creator/WaltDisney to prove to his studio that there was a market for Disney on the east coast, an experiment which proved successful and ultimately culminated in the opening of Disney World in central Florida in 1971; but even then, they didn't really gain the reputation they have today until [[TheRenaissanceAgeOfAnimation the late 1980s/early 1990s]]. This was pretty much exemplified
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in the mid 1980s when UsefulNotes/NewYorkCity pudding" example of this that really forced the studio to make a push eastward was probably the 1984 corporate leadership change that saw three outside studio executives take control of the company. While new president Frank Wells was a California native who was very familiar with Disney, the two New York City natives were not: new studio head Jeffrey Katzenberg's knowledge of Disney came from seeing ''Disney/{{Pinocchio}}'' once when he was a kid, while new CEO Michael Eisner became CEO of had never seen any Disney film growing up, which led to some serious culture clashes (particularly on Katzenberg's end) in the studio, and sheepishly admitted to first few years with the California-based board of directors that he had never actually seen a Disney film before taking the job.creatives.
8th Aug '16 11:17:48 PM Malvina
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Pop-Culture Isolation is basically a case of pop-culture myopia of sorts. Where celebrities, music genres, media or events are huge and significant in one subculture or ethnic group, but elsewhere nobody knows they exists or is indifferent to them altogether. We're not talking about separate countries here, but ''within'' the same country or region. A lot of this is especially prevalent in entertainment, especially music. Radio is probably the main cause of this as radio is very isolated in terms of programming and format. Though some just see all of this as another form of segregation.

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Pop-Culture Isolation is basically a case of pop-culture myopia of sorts. Where sorts, where celebrities, music genres, media or events are huge and significant in one subculture or ethnic group, but elsewhere nobody knows they exists or is indifferent to them altogether. We're not talking about separate countries here, but ''within'' the same country or region. A lot of this is especially prevalent in entertainment, especially in particular music. Radio is probably the main cause of this as radio it is very isolated in terms of programming and format. Though format, though some just see all of this as another form of segregation.
8th Aug '16 11:14:23 PM Malvina
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Pop-Culture Isolation is basically a case of pop-culture myopia of sorts. Where celebrity, music genres, media or events that are huge and significant in one subculture or ethnic group, but elsewhere nobody knows it exists or is indifferent to it altogether. We're not talking about separate countries here, but ''within'' the same country or region. A lot of this is especially prevalent in entertainment, especially music. Radio is probably the main cause of this as radio is very isolated in terms of programming and format. Though some just see all of this as another form of segregation.

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Pop-Culture Isolation is basically a case of pop-culture myopia of sorts. Where celebrity, celebrities, music genres, media or events that are huge and significant in one subculture or ethnic group, but elsewhere nobody knows it they exists or is indifferent to it them altogether. We're not talking about separate countries here, but ''within'' the same country or region. A lot of this is especially prevalent in entertainment, especially music. Radio is probably the main cause of this as radio is very isolated in terms of programming and format. Though some just see all of this as another form of segregation.
29th Jul '16 9:29:28 PM LaptopGuy
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* Steve Harvey is a very popular comedian in the black community, but not too many people outside of it even know he exists. He arguably may have overcome this due to his sitcom, and appearing in ''The Kings of Comedy''. And taking over as the host of ''Series/FamilyFeud'' in 2010. And then getting his own talk show in 2012. Sadly, the Miss Universe screw-up undid all of it; despite the publicity he got from it, it's become practically [[NeverLiveItDown all he's known for]] outside his audience. This is arguably true of most Black comedians before they land a sitcom deal, or hell, any comedian since they tend to only be popular within a certain niche (women, college students, blacks, Latinos, Asians, other ethnicities, etc.)

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* Steve Harvey is a very popular comedian in the black community, but not too many people outside of it even know he exists. He arguably may have overcome this due to his sitcom, and appearing in ''The Kings of Comedy''. And taking over as the host of ''Series/FamilyFeud'' in 2010. And then getting his own talk show in 2012. Sadly, the Miss Universe screw-up undid all of it; despite the publicity he got from it, it's become practically [[NeverLiveItDown all he's mostly known for]] outside his audience.for being the guy who screwed up the announcement of the 2015 Miss Universe pageant winner]]. This is arguably true of most Black comedians before they land a sitcom deal, or hell, any comedian since they tend to only be popular within a certain niche (women, college students, blacks, Latinos, Asians, other ethnicities, etc.)


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* How many swimmers can Americans not into the sport name? Chances are, they'll only know Michael Phelps and nobody else. Ryan Lochte, Missy Franklin, and Katie Ledecky are also fairly well known, although far from Phelps' level of recognition. Names like Dara Torres, Aaron Peirsol, Natalie Coughlin, Jenny Thompson, Amy Van Dyken, Mark Spitz, or Matt Biondi are virtually unknown except to the most hardcore fans of swimming and/or the Olympics. '20s star Johnny Weissmuller is also well-known, but that's for playing Tarzan in the movies rather than his athletic career. If they can name anyone else, it would probably be former Stanford University athlete Brock Turner, although for all the wrong reasons.


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* Reeva Steenkamp was one of the most popular models in her native South Africa during the early 2010s, but internationally she's known chiefly for being the murder victim of former Olympic sprinter Oscar Pistorius.
29th Jul '16 9:11:59 PM LaptopGuy
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** Amber Rose as well is gradually heading down this road thanks to photoblogs. Dating Music/KanyeWest probably helped.

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** Amber Rose as well is gradually heading down this road thanks to photoblogs. Dating Music/KanyeWest and later Wiz Khalifa probably helped.
28th Jul '16 8:20:43 PM darkchiefy
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* {{Nollywood}} (the Nigerian film industry), despite being the 2nd largest film industry in the world (behind UsefulNotes/{{Bollywood}}), is pretty much only known among Africans, or maybe West Indian people if you're lucky.

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* {{Nollywood}} {{UsefulNotes/nollywood}} (the Nigerian film industry), despite being the 2nd largest film industry in the world (behind UsefulNotes/{{Bollywood}}), is pretty much only known among Africans, or maybe West Indian people if you're lucky.
23rd Jul '16 5:54:26 PM Schroeder1174
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* Since theatre actors are usually not famous to the general public unless they appear in film or TV you can have actors who have a long and successful theatrical career, yet are completely unknown unless you often go the theater.

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* Since theatre actors are usually not famous to the general public unless they appear in film or TV you can have actors who have a long and successful theatrical career, yet are completely unknown unless you often go to the theater.
23rd Jul '16 12:33:28 AM KizunaTallis
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* [[ElectronicMusic EDM]] is basically mainstream in Europe, to the point where pure EDM songs can make pop hits. In the US, it's popular enough to have a vocal fanbase and the biggest names can draw in huge crowds, but the reception outside the fandom can be very polarizing. Additionally, names that are big in EDM won't ring a bell outside the audience. For example, everyone knows about Music/DavidGuetta, Music/CalvinHarris, Music/{{Skrillex}}, and Music/{{Deadmau5}} ([[MainstreamObscurity even if they've never listened to their music]]), but mention names like "Alesso", "DJ Snake", "Diplo", "Clean Bandit", "Steve Aoki", "Disclosure", "Zedd", "Avicii", and "Major Lazer" to people not into that music, and they're likely to be stumped.

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* [[ElectronicMusic EDM]] is basically ElectronicMusic and its many different subgenres have been mainstream in Europe, Europe for a longer time than in America, to the point where pure EDM songs can make pop hits. In the US, it's popular enough to have a vocal fanbase and the biggest names can draw in huge crowds, but the reception outside the fandom can be very polarizing. Additionally, names that are big in EDM won't ring a bell outside the audience. For example, everyone knows most people have at least heard about Music/DavidGuetta, Music/CalvinHarris, Music/{{Skrillex}}, Music/DaftPunk and Music/{{Deadmau5}} ([[MainstreamObscurity even if they've never listened to their music]]), but mention names like "Alesso", "DJ Snake", "Diplo", "Clean Bandit", "Steve Aoki", "Disclosure", "Zedd", "Avicii", and "Major Lazer" Alesso, DJ Snake, Diplo, Clean Bandit, Steve Aoki, Disclosure, Music/{{Zedd}}, Avicii, or Music/{{Tiesto}} to people not into that music, and they're likely to be stumped.
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