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30th Nov '16 5:14:21 PM KamenRiderOokalf
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* ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha A's'':

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* Takashi in [[Fanfic/DevaSeries the Deva Series]] is one to [[MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha Hayate]], using underhanded means to protect her interests, including [[spoiler:killing the leaders of the Circles after finding out about their plan to nuke her school]].

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* Takashi in [[Fanfic/DevaSeries the Deva Series]] is one to [[MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha [[Franchise/LyricalNanoha Hayate]], using underhanded means to protect her interests, including [[spoiler:killing the leaders of the Circles after finding out about their plan to nuke her school]].
14th Nov '16 9:50:46 AM AdelePotter
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* In ''WebVideo/TheVeronicaExclusive'', Veronica's girlfriend Jane would do ''anything'' to make her happy, up to and including murder.
11th Nov '16 12:48:30 PM WildKatGirl
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5th Oct '16 5:56:10 AM thatother1dude
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* Richard from ''Webcomic/LookingForGroup'' is an extreme example. He started as an evil character who found Cale'anon (one of an unspecified "evil race" committed to truth and justice) entertaining, but found himself gradually swept up in the cause, acting as one of Cale's lieutenants. He cemented himself in this role when he was brought before a demonic court to answer for all the good he's done in aiding Cale'anon.
** Pella would be a better example, as she commits a crime to further the main character's cause.
** The trial was specifically about a particular village that he slaughtered; though he thought he was doing evil at the time, demon scryers found that had he ''not'' done so, they would have eventually become an invasion force that would subjugate the entire continent. The net moral worth of his act was therefore deemed "good" and he was, essentially, on trial for ''neglectful virtue''.
* [=PeeJee=] and Aubrey fit this trope for Davan of SomethingPositive. Hurt Davan in any way and they will respond with [[DisproportionateRetribution tenfold the pain you caused him]]. Davan is not always bothered by this.

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* Richard from ''Webcomic/LookingForGroup'' is an extreme example. He started as an evil character who found Cale'anon (one of an unspecified "evil race" committed to truth and justice) entertaining, but found himself gradually swept up in the cause, acting as one of Cale's lieutenants. He cemented himself in this role when he was brought before a demonic court to answer for all the good he's done in aiding Cale'anon.
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''Webcomic/LookingForGroup'': Pella would be a better example, as she commits a crime to further the main character's cause.
** The trial was specifically about a particular village that he slaughtered; though he thought he was doing evil at the time, demon scryers found that had he ''not'' done so, they would have eventually become an invasion force that would subjugate the entire continent. The net moral worth of his act was therefore deemed "good" and he was, essentially, on trial for ''neglectful virtue''.
* [=PeeJee=] and Aubrey fit this trope for Davan of SomethingPositive. ''Webcomic/SomethingPositive'': Hurt Davan in any way and they [=PeeJee=] and Aubrey will respond with [[DisproportionateRetribution tenfold the pain you caused him]]. Davan is not always bothered by this.



* Anakin becomes this for Palpatine in ''Webcomic/DarthsAndDroids''.

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* %%* Anakin becomes this for Palpatine in ''Webcomic/DarthsAndDroids''.
5th Oct '16 5:53:01 AM thatother1dude
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* Johan of ''Manga/{{Monster}}'' served as Anna Liebert's Poisonous Brother, murdering anyone their pursuers might have possibly used to pinpoint their location, before she finally caught on and [[spoiler:shot him in the head. He got better.]]
** He also helps Tenma's promotional woes. By killing off all his superiors that were keeping him down.
* Alucard of the ''Manga/{{Hellsing}}'' Organization clearly qualifies as Sir Integra's [[PoisonousFriend anti-conscience]] by the way he is able to stir Sir Integra into giving him the most ruthless orders so he can indulge his bloodlust as well as succeed in whatever mission he is sent to.
** Also, if you [[TooDumbToLive insult, harm, or threaten his master,]] you'd better have someone to save you, otherwise you ''will'' regret it.

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* Johan of ''Manga/{{Monster}}'' served as Anna Liebert's Poisonous Brother, murdering anyone their pursuers might have possibly used to pinpoint their location, before she finally caught on and [[spoiler:shot him in the head. He got better.]]
** He
]] Johan also helps Tenma's promotional woes. By killing off all his superiors that were keeping him down.
* Alucard of the ''Manga/{{Hellsing}}'' Organization clearly qualifies as Sir Integra's [[PoisonousFriend anti-conscience]] anti-conscience by the way he is able to stir Sir Integra into giving him the most ruthless orders so he can indulge his bloodlust as well as succeed in whatever mission he is sent to.
** Also, if you [[TooDumbToLive insult, harm, or threaten his master,]] you'd better have someone to save you, otherwise you ''will'' regret it.
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* ''Manga/BlackCat'': Creed Diskenth takes this to creepy extremes. He has such a constant hard-on for Train that at one point he ruthlessly butchers three intelligence officers for referring to Train as 'that guy'. The kicker is that he does this just after Train, once a heartless assassin, reforms and abandons the life of a killer, deciding to never take another life. Train pays little attention to the fact that Creed goes on a killing spree anytime Train's honour is insulted. (Train's refusal to kill is exclusively in the anime, not the manga, nor does Creed perform acts of killing based on percieved slights to Train in the manga)

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* ''Manga/BlackCat'': In the anime, Creed Diskenth takes this to creepy extremes. He has such a constant hard-on for Train that at one point he ruthlessly butchers three intelligence officers for referring to Train as 'that guy'. The kicker is that he does this just after Train, once a heartless assassin, reforms and abandons the life of a killer, deciding to never take another life. Train pays little attention to the fact that Creed goes on a killing spree anytime Train's honour is insulted. (Train's refusal to kill is exclusively in the anime, not the manga, nor does Creed perform acts of killing based on percieved slights to Train in the manga)



* The Wolkenritter in ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha A's'' could count. They go out to complete the Book of Darkness despite Hayate ordering them not to, which would seem to make them an example, but they do it regretfully and only because they believe it's the only way of saving her (which is not far from the truth). They go so far as to [[ThouShaltNotKill avoid killing people]] so that Hayate won't be responsible for murder.
** Perhaps Reinforce could also count as she, after seeing that [[spoiler:the Wolkenritter have been absorbed into the book]], targets those she thinks are responsible: [[spoiler:Nanoha and Fate]]. Hayate makes it very clear that this is ''not'' what she wants.
* ''Kino's Journey'': Kino meets a woman traveling with the intent of spreading peace, but the man she is traveling with is a highly skilled gunman. He kills people trying to attack the woman and she is none the wiser.

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* ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha A's'':
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The Wolkenritter in ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha A's'' could count. They go out to complete the Book of Darkness despite Hayate ordering them not to, which would seem to make them an example, [[DownplayedTrope but they do it regretfully and only because they believe it's the only way of saving her her]] (which is not far from the truth). They go so far as to [[ThouShaltNotKill avoid killing people]] so that Hayate won't be responsible for murder.
** Perhaps Reinforce could also count as she, Reinforce, after seeing that [[spoiler:the Wolkenritter have been absorbed into the book]], targets those she thinks are responsible: [[spoiler:Nanoha and Fate]]. Hayate makes it very clear that this is ''not'' what she wants.
* ''Kino's Journey'': ''LightNovel/KinosJourney'': Kino meets a woman traveling with the intent of spreading peace, but the man she is traveling with is a highly skilled gunman. He kills people trying to attack the woman and she is none the wiser.
5th Oct '16 5:41:16 AM thatother1dude
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* [[DarkActionGirl Luna]] from ''WesternAnimation/TheBoondocks'' episode "Attack of the Killer Kung-Fu Wolf Bitch". Luna is an emotionally unstable woman who always relies on her best friend Nicole for advice, no matter how terrible it is. For example, after Luna learned that Robert lied to her, Nicole convinces her to [[DisproportionateRetribution try to murder him]]. Later after Luna changes her mind and spares Robert, [[spoiler:Nicole (unintentionally) convinces Luna to [[DrivenToSuicide commit suicide]] with a hand grenade]].
* Beezy J. Heinous on ''WesternAnimation/JimmyTwoShoes''. In His FriendVersusLover rivalry with Heloise over Jimmy, he can get just as {{yandere}} as she can (see: "Best Bud Battle"). He has also stolen money from Jimmy at one point.
* In ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'', the biggest reason for Terry's DarkAndTroubledPast was a friend like this named Charlie "Big Time" Bigelow, who convinced Terry to help him rob a fancy apartment; when they were caught, Terry was actually lucky because he was a minor at the time, getting only ninety days in juvie, but Charlie got three years in a real prison. When he finally got out, Terry now having been taken under Bruce Wayne's wing (so to speak) Terry wanted to believe Charlie had changed. He had not. Fortunately, Terry was smart enough to stay away this time, as his old friend only got into ''worse'' trouble.

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* [[DarkActionGirl Luna]] from ''WesternAnimation/TheBoondocks'' episode "Attack of the Killer Kung-Fu Wolf Bitch". Luna is an emotionally unstable woman who always relies on her best friend Nicole for advice, no matter how terrible it is. For example, after Luna learned that Robert lied to her, Nicole convinces her to [[DisproportionateRetribution try to murder him]]. Later after Luna changes her mind and spares Robert, [[spoiler:Nicole (unintentionally) convinces Luna to [[DrivenToSuicide commit suicide]] with a hand grenade]].
* Beezy J. Heinous on ''WesternAnimation/JimmyTwoShoes''. In His FriendVersusLover rivalry with Heloise over Jimmy, he can get just as {{yandere}} as she can (see: "Best Bud Battle"). He has also stolen money from Jimmy at one point.\n* In ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'', the biggest reason for Terry's DarkAndTroubledPast was a friend like this named Charlie "Big Time" Bigelow, who convinced Terry to help him rob a fancy apartment; when they were caught, Terry was actually lucky because he was a minor at the time, getting only ninety days in juvie, but Charlie got three years in a real prison. When he finally got out, Terry now having been taken under Bruce Wayne's wing (so to speak) Terry wanted to believe Charlie had changed. He had not. Fortunately, Terry was smart enough to stay away this time, as his old friend only got into ''worse'' trouble.



* The titular character ''WesternAnimation/BojackHorseman'' can be the most recent and extreme living proof of this. His miserable and self-destructive lifestyle (for lack of a better term) had caused many of his friends, lovers, colleagues, and the like to be let down, screwed over, heartbroken, pushed away, or even dead (just to name a few). He is well aware of his toxic attitude, and those close to him call him out on this on more than one occasion, but almost never attempts to make up for it until it's too late. On the last episode of the latest [third] season, he even considers himself "a poison that destroys everything he touches" after one of his colleagues from his old sitcom days dies because of him. And now that everyone else has moved on to pursue their own life, he almost has no one left.
2nd Oct '16 9:08:04 AM N8han11
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** Also Wolfwood in the anime, most notably when he shoots Zazie the Beast, who looked like he might have been calming down. [[spoiler:Vash's idealism has infected him so badly by this point that he ends up feeling horribly guilty over everyone elses' reactions and does a HeelFaceMole, which gets him killed.]]
*** Manga Wolfwood too, kinda. Their philosophical division gets even more development here, and Vash is a darker character though he doesn't kill anyone, but despite Wolfwood's huge conflicts over what's "right" (which ranges from putting a bullet in the back of Vash's head for the good of humanity to actually considering Vash's position) he's mostly of the opinion that you ''have'' to make sacrifices if you're going to save anyone. Hanging around with him is a catastrophe waiting to happen for Vash, although [[spoiler:the catastrophe turns out to be his absurdly drawn-out death.]] Vash doesn't help. And he survives and makes spaghetti for the guy who did it. This series is ''whacked.''
*** Manga Wolfwood shoots Rai-Dei the Blade in a situation analogous to the Zazie one mentioned above. (Anime Wolfwood shoots Rai-Dei offhandedly in the ruins of August with no witnesses, probably on Legato's orders, and shooting manga Zazie is kind of...[[DeathIsCheap irrelevant]], since the collective can always find a new host.) He and Vash have a major blow-out about it, but after Wolfwood manages to top the drama-meter by holding Vash's gun to his own forehead and demanding that he pull the trigger and walk forward, able to kill his own enemies and ''survive'', because dying would be ''worth'' that, they keep traveling together.
*** It's not like Vash didn't have some idea [[HitmanWithAHeart what Wolfwood was]] before, but the protect-shooting can't be ignored like stuff he hasn't actually seen, so it's a crisis point in both media. Manga Wolfwood is much stronger in his defense of his position because the anime adaption was LighterAndFluffier even once it got serious, and Vash's philosophy got considerably more positive reinforcement, despite keeping him as IronWoobie.
*** Wolfwood's also defining his place as PoisonousFriend in the gun moment, because Vash is condemning him for killing Rai-Dei, so it's saying both 'get rid of me, then, if you don't want what I'm willing to do for you' and 'without me, you'll have to do your own killing, do you really think you can handle that?'
*** The fact that Wolfwood is also, simultaneously, TheMole, TheLancer, and the best friend Vash has ever had seriously complicates the issue.

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** Also Wolfwood in the anime, Wolfwood, most notably when he shoots Zazie the Beast, who looked like he might have been calming down. [[spoiler:Vash's idealism has infected him so badly by this point that he ends up feeling horribly guilty over everyone elses' reactions and does a HeelFaceMole, which gets him killed.]]
*** Manga Wolfwood too, kinda. Their philosophical division gets even more development here, and Vash is a darker character though he doesn't kill anyone, but despite Wolfwood's huge conflicts over what's "right" (which ranges from putting a bullet in the back of Vash's head for the good of humanity to actually considering Vash's position) he's mostly of the opinion that you ''have'' to make sacrifices if you're going to save anyone. Hanging around with him is a catastrophe waiting to happen for Vash, although [[spoiler:the catastrophe turns out to be his absurdly drawn-out death.]] Vash doesn't help. And he survives and makes spaghetti for the guy who did it. This series is ''whacked.''
*** Manga Wolfwood shoots Rai-Dei the Blade in a situation analogous to the Zazie one mentioned above. (Anime Wolfwood shoots Rai-Dei offhandedly in the ruins of August with no witnesses, probably on Legato's orders, and shooting manga Zazie is kind of...[[DeathIsCheap irrelevant]], since the collective can always find a new host.) He and Vash have a major blow-out about it, but after Wolfwood manages to top the drama-meter by holding Vash's gun to his own forehead and demanding that he pull the trigger and walk forward, able to kill his own enemies and ''survive'', because dying would be ''worth'' that, they keep traveling together.
*** It's not like Vash didn't have some idea [[HitmanWithAHeart what Wolfwood was]] before, but the protect-shooting can't be ignored like stuff he hasn't actually seen, so it's a crisis point in both media. Manga Wolfwood is much stronger in his defense of his position because the anime adaption was LighterAndFluffier even once it got serious, and Vash's philosophy got considerably more positive reinforcement, despite keeping him as IronWoobie.
*** Wolfwood's also defining his place as PoisonousFriend in the gun moment, because Vash is condemning him for killing Rai-Dei, so it's saying both 'get rid of me, then, if you don't want what I'm willing to do for you' and 'without me, you'll have to do your own killing, do you really think you can handle that?'
*** The fact that Wolfwood is also, simultaneously, TheMole, TheLancer, and the best friend Vash has ever had seriously complicates the issue.
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** He also helps Tenma's promotional woes. By killing off all his superiors that were keeping him down. And depending on your interpretation, [[spoiler:the entire plot was a gigantic GambitRoulette by Johan, intended to give Tenma some CharacterDevelopment and allow him to see clearly how the world really works.]]
*** Even if that wasn't his ''central'' goal, he certainly wanted to do that.

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** He also helps Tenma's promotional woes. By killing off all his superiors that were keeping him down. And depending on your interpretation, [[spoiler:the entire plot was a gigantic GambitRoulette by Johan, intended to give Tenma some CharacterDevelopment and allow him to see clearly how the world really works.]]
*** Even if that wasn't his ''central'' goal, he certainly wanted to do that.



** It's semi-subverted as he implies that she enjoys it, though. Which she does not deny, only saying that it's 'none of your business'.
*** It's [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation debatable]] as to whether or not she enjoys it, as her telling him to shut up about it may be because she wants to cleanse that from her mind.
10th Sep '16 1:33:59 PM KingLyger
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* Pete in ''Film/AGoofyMovie''. Whereas in ''WesternAnimation/GoofTroop'', Pete was just a heartless {{jerkass}} who only cared about himself, the film version of Pete wants to legitimately help Goofy raise Max better. The problem is that Pete is very cynical and condescending, especially towards children of any age, so Pete just assumes Max is bad and works from there. [[spoiler:And while [[JerkassHasAPoint Pete turns out to be right about Max changing Goofy's map]], Pete never suggests that Goofy talk to his son, just punish him so Max doesn't talk back.]]
23rd Aug '16 7:07:11 PM Tigerozen
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* The titular character ''WesternAnimation/BojackHorseman'' can be the most recent and extreme living proof of this. His miserable and self-destructive lifestyle (for lack of a better term) had caused many of his friends, lovers, colleagues, and the like (just to name a few) to be let down, screwed over, heartbroken, pushed away, or even dead. He is well aware of his toxic attitude, and those close to him call him out on this on more than one occasion, but almost never attempts to make up for it until it's too late. On the last episode of the latest [third] season, he even considers himself "a poison that destroys everything he touches" after one of his colleagues from his old sitcom days, dies because of him. To put itsimply, he almost has no one left.

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* The titular character ''WesternAnimation/BojackHorseman'' can be the most recent and extreme living proof of this. His miserable and self-destructive lifestyle (for lack of a better term) had caused many of his friends, lovers, colleagues, and the like (just to name a few) to be let down, screwed over, heartbroken, pushed away, or even dead.dead (just to name a few). He is well aware of his toxic attitude, and those close to him call him out on this on more than one occasion, but almost never attempts to make up for it until it's too late. On the last episode of the latest [third] season, he even considers himself "a poison that destroys everything he touches" after one of his colleagues from his old sitcom days, days dies because of him. To put itsimply, And now that everyone else has moved on to pursue their own life, he almost has no one left.
23rd Aug '16 7:05:03 PM Tigerozen
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* The titular character ''WesternAnimation/BojackHorseman'' can be the most recent and extreme living proof of this. His miserable and self-destructive lifestyle (for lack of a better term) had caused many of his friends, lovers, colleagues, and the like (just to name a few) to be let down, screwed over, heartbroken, pushed away, or even dead. He is well aware of his toxic attitude, and those close to him call him out on this on more than one occasion, but almost never attempts to make up for it until it's too late. On the last episode of the latest [third] season, he even considers himself "a poison that destroys everything he touches" after one of his colleagues from his old sitcom days, dies because of him. To put itsimply, he almost has no one left.
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