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10th Jun '17 3:04:00 PM nombretomado
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* In ''WebVideo/TheGreatWar'', host Indy Neidell explicitly compares General [[WorldWarOne Conrad von Hötzendorf]] to the original PHB from Dilbert. Despite having a controversial reputation among military historians, the series emphasises von Hötzendorf's tendencies as a GeneralRipper who was at least partly responsible for the war breaking out in the first place, and expresses bafflement that he is still considered by some to be a military genius.

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* In ''WebVideo/TheGreatWar'', host Indy Neidell explicitly compares General [[WorldWarOne [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI Conrad von Hötzendorf]] to the original PHB from Dilbert. Despite having a controversial reputation among military historians, the series emphasises von Hötzendorf's tendencies as a GeneralRipper who was at least partly responsible for the war breaking out in the first place, and expresses bafflement that he is still considered by some to be a military genius.
7th Jun '17 9:58:53 AM Divra
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* Hamnpork, leader of the Clan in ''Discworld/TheAmazingMauriceAndHisEducatedRodents'', was a competent top rat before they became "educated". Once the rats became sentient, he was too old to make the adjustment to thinking and became a bit of a figurehead, nudged into doing whatever Peaches or Darktan want him to. However, Hamnpork is well aware of his limitations and grumbles a little but is willing to let Darktan and Peaches call the shots. Also, during the course of the book, he shows at least a couple of examples of the stellar fighting and tactical skills which took him to the top in the first place

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* Hamnpork, leader of the Clan in ''Discworld/TheAmazingMauriceAndHisEducatedRodents'', was a competent top rat before they became "educated". Once didn't take the rats became sentient, he was too shift to sentience particularly well, being fairly old to make at the adjustment to thinking time, and became is now reduced to being a bit of a figurehead, nudged into doing whatever figurehead for Peaches or Darktan want him to. and Darktan. However, Hamnpork is seems to be well aware of his limitations this, and grumbles a little but is willing to (though a bit put out at having to) let Darktan and Peaches call the shots. shots while quietly grooming Darktan as his successor. Also, during the course while Hamnpork isn't much of the book, a peacetime leader, he shows at least ''is'' a couple of examples of the stellar fighting highly competent scrapper and tactical solid, if unimaginative, small-unit tactician and puts those skills which took him to the top in the first placegood use when called upon to do so.



** Many books involving Vimes have him involved with point haired bosses somehow, usually in the form of the Ankh-Morpork aristocracy or Military figures. He usually tends to tell them what they want to hear and ends up doing what he was going to do anyway by deliberately misinterpreting orders
* George O. Smith's first "Venus Equilateral" story has a particularly memorable example... or at least a particularly memorable screwup by a PHB. The guy arrives, starts screwing things up and annoying people, tensions run higher and higher until there are pointless fights almost constantly... then an engineer swears, runs up to the center of the rotating station to get his bearings, then runs to the air plant - then runs to scream out the PHB. Two days ealier, he'd gone poking about the workings of the station, and been confused by the air plant; he'd been expecting some manner of machine, but all he'd found was a big plot of sawgrass, '''''so he had some workmen clear it out...'''''

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** Many books involving Vimes have him involved with point haired pointy-haired bosses somehow, usually in the form of the Ankh-Morpork aristocracy or Military figures. He usually tends to tell them what they want to hear and ends up doing what he was going to do anyway by deliberately misinterpreting orders
* George O. Smith's first "Venus Equilateral" story has a particularly memorable example... or at least a particularly memorable screwup by a PHB. The guy arrives, starts screwing things up and annoying people, tensions run higher and higher until there are pointless fights almost constantly... then an engineer swears, runs up to the center of the rotating station to get his bearings, then runs to the air plant - then runs to scream out the PHB. Two days ealier, earlier, he'd gone poking about the workings of the station, and been confused by the air plant; he'd been expecting some manner of machine, but all he'd found was a big plot of sawgrass, '''''so he had some workmen clear it out...'''''
7th Jun '17 9:49:05 AM Divra
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* Hamnpork, leader of the Clan in ''Discworld/TheAmazingMauriceAndHisEducatedRodents'', may have been competent as top rat before they became "educated". Once the rats become sentient, he's too old to make the adjustment to thinking and becomes a bit of a figurehead, nudged into doing whatever Peaches or Darktan want him to. Played with, as he later shows just why he became leader of the Clan during a badass moment [[spoiler: in the Pit]].

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* Hamnpork, leader of the Clan in ''Discworld/TheAmazingMauriceAndHisEducatedRodents'', may have been was a competent as top rat before they became "educated". Once the rats become became sentient, he's he was too old to make the adjustment to thinking and becomes became a bit of a figurehead, nudged into doing whatever Peaches or Darktan want him to. Played with, as he later shows just why he became leader However, Hamnpork is well aware of his limitations and grumbles a little but is willing to let Darktan and Peaches call the shots. Also, during the course of the Clan during book, he shows at least a badass moment [[spoiler: couple of examples of the stellar fighting and tactical skills which took him to the top in the Pit]].first place
4th Jun '17 10:53:58 AM Morgenthaler
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* Mr. Perkins, the evil head of the Bank of Evil ([[TakeThat formerly Lehman Bros]].) in ''WesternAnimation/DespicableMe'' certainly [[ShoutOut looks like]] the original (or [[WeaponBrown the unrated version of him]]) but he's actually scarily competent.

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* Mr. Perkins, the evil head of the Bank of Evil ([[TakeThat formerly Lehman Bros]].) in ''WesternAnimation/DespicableMe'' certainly [[ShoutOut looks like]] the original (or [[WeaponBrown [[Webcomic/WeaponBrown the unrated version of him]]) but he's actually scarily competent.
18th Apr '17 6:43:34 PM Berrenta
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* The {{trope namer|s}} comes from the original [[http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/the_characters/ Pointy-Haired Boss]] in the daily comic strip and former animated TV series ''ComicStrip/{{Dilbert}}'', seen above playing chess against a [[FundamentallyFunnyFruit pineapple]] -- and ''[[EpicFail losing]]''. (Count the captured pieces!)

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* The {{trope namer|s}} comes from the original [[http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/the_characters/ Pointy-Haired Boss]] in the daily comic strip and former animated TV series ''ComicStrip/{{Dilbert}}'', seen above playing chess against a [[FundamentallyFunnyFruit pineapple]] pineapple -- and ''[[EpicFail losing]]''. (Count the captured pieces!)
18th Apr '17 10:21:23 AM BeerBaron
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* Jeanne Frasoric, the head of the Bruma Mages Guild in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion'', is a ditzy, scatterbrained mage with [[SmallNameBigEgo delusions of self-importance]]. She is also almost totally inept at magic, and only got her position as branch head due to her [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections connections]], something she brags about constantly, [[ComicallyMissingThePoint oblivious as to what that actually says about her]]. None of her subordinates respect her, and several pass the time pulling pranks on her.

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* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls''
** In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'', Mages Guild Archmage Trebonius Artorius is a shining example. He actually is an incredibly talented [[MagicKnight Battlemage]], which helped him to rise through the ranks of the Guild. However, he quickly proved hopelessly incompetent at managing Guild affairs. His mainland superiors responded by promoting him further (in the KickedUpstairs fashion) and putting him in charge of the Guild branch in [[ReassignedToAntarctica the most backwater district in the Empire]] where he could cause the least amount of trouble. He let in a [[TheMole badly disguised spy]] (whose credentials even had High Chancellor Ocato's ''signature'' [[YouMakeMeSic spelled wrong]]), spends his time giving his underlings {{Impossible Task}}s and sending them on {{Snipe Hunt}}s, all while generally acting petty and immature to those who offend him. When the PlayerCharacter comes to him for assignments, he sends you on a task to [[RiddleForTheAges learn about the disappearance of the]] [[OurDwarvesAreDifferent Dwemer]], and is shocked when you actually manage to find a plausible answer. Then he sends you on a mission to [[SuicideMission kill all of the Telvanni councilors]]. While there is a peaceful way to deal with him, it leaves you as the ''co''-head of the Guild with Trebonious, which is obviously less desirable. You can instead [[ChallengingTheChief challenge him in a duel to the death for his position]], receiving it as a KlingonPromotion if you win. However, need we remind you that he ''is'', despite his other flaws, a very talented Battlemage? (Ironically for this trope, he is also completely bald.)
** The Mages Guild seems to encourage this trope.
Jeanne Frasoric, the head of the Bruma Mages Guild in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion'', ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'', is a ditzy, scatterbrained mage with [[SmallNameBigEgo delusions of self-importance]]. She is also almost totally inept at magic, and only got her position as branch head due to her [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections connections]], something she brags about constantly, [[ComicallyMissingThePoint oblivious as to what that actually says about her]]. None of her subordinates respect her, and several pass the time pulling pranks on her.
12th Apr '17 12:40:02 AM foxley
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* DAC Don Bevan from the pilot and season 1 in ''Series/NewTricks''. He is an empty suit, obsessed with bureaucracy and management buzzwords, and his only interest in UCOS is how it can improve his media profile. His replacement DAC Robert Strickland is actually genuinely interested in making the squad a success.
14th Mar '17 5:09:33 AM GoblinCipher
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Very often such a boss is not merely incompetent but [[BadBoss evil]]; the kind of guy who takes all the credit for his employees' success but blames them for his own failures. In these cases he can be ''more'' contemptible than the [[CorruptCorporateExecutive CEO]] whom he serves: while the CEO is only concerned with padding the bottom line (thereby keeping the company humming along), the Pointy-Haired Boss will sink to any depths to protect his job--a job little better than that of his subordinates, yet one they are completely unqualified for--and will cut the knees out from under employees to [[NeverMyFault make themselves look competent.]] On other occasions, they may have been competent and serious about their job at one point or another, but a combination of having to deal with a bunch of angry employees with (frequently unfounded) axes to grind and higher-ups who were around only to micromanage to hell and back and act as nuisances eventually drove them to stop giving a damn altogether and be just barely competent enough to not attract the ire of the upper management.

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Very often such a boss is not merely incompetent but [[BadBoss evil]]; the kind of guy who takes all the credit for his employees' success but blames them for his own failures. In these cases he can be ''more'' contemptible than the [[CorruptCorporateExecutive CEO]] whom he serves: while the CEO is only concerned with padding the bottom line (thereby keeping the company humming along), the Pointy-Haired Boss will sink to any depths to protect his job--a job little better than that of his subordinates, yet one they are the PHB is completely unqualified for--and will cut the knees out from under employees to [[NeverMyFault make themselves look competent.]] On other occasions, they may have been competent and serious about their job at one point or another, but a combination of having to deal with a bunch of angry employees with (frequently unfounded) axes to grind and higher-ups who were around only to micromanage to hell and back and act as nuisances eventually drove them to stop giving a damn altogether and be just barely competent enough to not attract the ire of the upper management.
23rd Feb '17 5:55:24 PM Schismatism
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* Mr. Kornada from ''Webcomic/{{Freefall}}'' takes this trope UpToEleven: he was repeatedly KickedUpstairs despite his rampant incompetence in the vain hopes that another company might try to hire him. Not only does he follow the BadBoss archetype in general, he makes it a ''point of pride'' not to know anything about his work, let alone anyone else's -- which nearly leads to the entire colony collapsing.
12th Jan '17 4:58:07 PM pwiegle
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** ''Any'' commanding officer other than [[AFatherToHisMen Colonel Potter]] usually got portrayed this way.

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** ''Any'' commanding officer other than [[AFatherToHisMen Colonel Potter]] usually got portrayed this way. Major Winchester would abuse the position to wallow in perks and creature comforts which he felt were his due.
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