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19th Nov '17 11:34:56 AM MasterN
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This can be played several ways. A ManipulativeBastard will describe a situation to make a third party think that the ManipulativeBastard is a good guy, and the ''real'' good guys are mean and evil and out to get him for no good reason. The {{Jerkass}} may legitimately believe the grievances - but the audience can usually recognize a pity party over self-inflicted wounds. However, sometimes the person playing the victim card is neither of those things. Instead he is actually victimized, and is a designated villain.

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This can be played several ways. A ManipulativeBastard will describe a situation to [[VillainWithGoodPublicity make a third party think that the ManipulativeBastard is they are a good guy, guy]], and the ''real'' good guys [[HeroWithBadPublicity are mean and evil and out to get him for no good reason. reason]]. The {{Jerkass}} may [[NeverMyFault legitimately believe the grievances grievances]] - but the audience can usually recognize a pity party over [[WoundedGazelleGambit self-inflicted wounds.wounds]]. However, sometimes the person playing the victim card is neither of those things. Instead he is actually victimized, and is a designated villain.
DesignatedVillain.



This may take the form of a FreudianExcuse if the villain legitimately believes what they're saying. See also WoundedGazelleGambit. Compare WhatIsEvil, NeverMyFault, and PlayingSick.

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This may take the form of a FreudianExcuse if the villain legitimately believes what they're saying. See also WoundedGazelleGambit. Compare WhatIsEvil, NeverMyFault, WhatIsEvil and PlayingSick.
19th Nov '17 11:31:42 AM MasterN
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A character has given a speech about how poor and oppressed he is, that he's a victim of circumstance, and everybody seems to be out to get him.

The problem is that the character making all these statements is a ''villain''.

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A character has given a speech about how poor and oppressed he is, they are, that he's theyíre a victim of circumstance, and everybody seems to be out to get him.

them.

The problem is that the character making all these statements is a ''villain''.
''[[{{Villains}} villain]]''.
8th Nov '17 6:05:21 AM RedScharlach
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* In ''Film/TheWolfOfWallStreet'', Jordan Belfort's narration tries to paint himself as an innocent victim who is being targeted by Patrick Denham and the FBI because they are jealous of his life of luxury and don't want him to be successful. However, it's obvious to the audience that the only reason he became successful is because he's a thief who steals money from people through stock fraud and Denham is pursuing him because he's breaking the law

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* In ''Film/TheWolfOfWallStreet'', Jordan Belfort's narration tries to paint himself as an innocent victim who is being targeted by Patrick Denham and the FBI because they are jealous of his life of luxury and don't want him to be successful. However, it's obvious to the audience that the only reason he became successful is because he's a thief who steals money from people through stock fraud and Denham is pursuing him because he's breaking the lawlaw.



* Willougby of ''Literature/SenseAndSensibility'' for the second type, trying to justify his behavior with ImAManICantHelpIt, but failing miserably. It might have worked if he had been relating the story to anyone who didn't personally know the people he hurt. The ridiculously rich John Dashwood and his wife also qualify, constantly espousing their apparent poverty to themselves and others to shirk the responsibility of being charitable to John's half-sisters.

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* Willougby Willoughby of ''Literature/SenseAndSensibility'' for the second type, trying to justify his behavior with ImAManICantHelpIt, but failing miserably. It might have worked if he had been relating the story to anyone who didn't personally know the people he hurt. The ridiculously rich John Dashwood and his wife also qualify, constantly espousing their apparent poverty to themselves and others to shirk the responsibility of being charitable to John's half-sisters.



* Cersei Lannister's "confession" to the High Septon in ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' is her blaming everyone else for "forcing" her into sin. Not too suprising since she generally [[NeverMyFault blames everyone but herself for all of her problems.]]

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* Cersei Lannister's "confession" to the High Septon in ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' is her blaming everyone else for "forcing" her into sin. Not too suprising surprising since she generally [[NeverMyFault blames everyone but herself for all of her problems.]]



* ''Series/{{Firefly}}'': Saffron does this to disarm Mal (quite literally) at the end of the episode "Trash". It's strongly implied that she's been carrying that card in her back pocket for a long time--and might even deserve it. Of course, her following actions sort of decrease our sympathy . . .

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* ''Series/{{Firefly}}'': Saffron does this to disarm Mal (quite literally) at the end of the episode "Trash". It's strongly implied that she's been carrying that card in her back pocket for a long time--and might even deserve it. Of course, her following actions sort of decrease our sympathy . . .sympathy...



* In Music/JayZ's song "99 Problems," he relates an incident when he was pulled over, portraying himself as a victim of racial profiling. In the incident in question, however, he '''was''' in fact carrying cocaine in a hidden compartment of his car, and only escaped arrest because the drug sniffing K-9 unit was delayed.

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* In Music/JayZ's song "99 Problems," he relates an incident when he was pulled over, portraying himself as a victim of racial profiling. In the incident in question, however, he '''was''' in fact carrying cocaine in a hidden compartment of his car, and only escaped arrest because the drug sniffing drug-sniffing K-9 unit was delayed.



* Lord Brevon from ''VideoGame/FreedomPlanet'' is fond of doing this, claiming that all he's trying to do is fix his ship, get off Avalice and save his homeworld, and all the heroes are doing is delaying his departure and forcing him to take more drastic measures. Nevermind the fact that his plan involves murdering the king of Shuigang, brainwashing his son into being his obedient servant and starting a massive war between the three kingdoms of Avalice while he steals a MacGuffin that provides power to the entire planet. Also the whole "Evil intergalactic warlord" thing. And the fact that Torque rips his victim card to shreds by telling him that his own warmongering is the reason his homeworld is in trouble in the first place.
* [[AxCrazy Jack]] from VideoGame/MassEffect2 can come off as doing this, during the loyalty fight with [[IceQueen Miranda]]. Jack walks into Miranda's stateroom, gets in her face, looking to pick a fight, [[GravityMaster biotically throws things around]] and then starts complaining about things that [[HumanityIsSuperior Miranda's organization]] [[ColdBloodedTorture did to her as a child]]. Bonus points if she does this, long after she has already blown her childhood detention centre to atoms, and says that she's found closure.

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* Lord Brevon from ''VideoGame/FreedomPlanet'' is fond of doing this, claiming that all he's trying to do is fix his ship, get off Avalice and save his homeworld, and all the heroes are doing is delaying his departure and forcing him to take more drastic measures. Nevermind Never mind the fact that his plan involves murdering the king of Shuigang, brainwashing his son into being his obedient servant and starting a massive war between the three kingdoms of Avalice while he steals a MacGuffin that provides power to the entire planet. Also the whole "Evil intergalactic warlord" thing. And the fact that Torque rips his victim card to shreds by telling him that his own warmongering is the reason his homeworld is in trouble in the first place.
* [[AxCrazy Jack]] from VideoGame/MassEffect2 can come off as doing this, during the loyalty fight with [[IceQueen Miranda]]. Jack walks into Miranda's stateroom, gets in her face, looking to pick a fight, [[GravityMaster biotically throws things around]] and then starts complaining about things that [[HumanityIsSuperior Miranda's organization]] [[ColdBloodedTorture did to her as a child]]. Bonus points if she does this, this long after she has already blown her childhood detention centre to atoms, and says that she's found closure.



* A recurring trick for [[ManipulativeBastard Gaea]] from ''Franchise/{{Noob}}''. The most frequent form is putting on trademark PuppyDogEyes while telling a sob story that is a MetaphoricallyTrue version of reality on a good day. Even people that have spent enough time around her to know better get this treatment, with a response along the lines of "Where did you get the idea that I was such a horrible person ?".

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* A recurring trick for [[ManipulativeBastard Gaea]] from ''Franchise/{{Noob}}''. The most frequent form is putting on trademark PuppyDogEyes while telling a sob story that is a MetaphoricallyTrue version of reality on a good day. Even people that have spent enough time around her to know better get this treatment, with a response along the lines of "Where did you get the idea that I was such a horrible person ?".person?".



* Lana Lang does this throughout ''WesternAnimation/{{Archer}}'' doing things she does a TheBabyTrap in order to force Archer to focus more on her. To the extent that she is enraged that he does not immediately accept responsibility for a child which she conceived using stolen frozen sperm, and which she did not even tell him was his, until after the baby was born! And even during the pregnancy, when Archer proposed thinking he wasn't the father, she claimed she would "rather lose the baby than marry [him]" while (unknowingly) pointing a gun at her belly. She has also water boarded Archer using the excuse that he had skipped out on the training when she really just wanted him to admit he was attracted to Veronica Deane. She also repeatedly tried to manipulate Archer using OperationJealousy because her jeolousy of Veronica only to get mad when it backfires.

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* Lana Lang does this throughout ''WesternAnimation/{{Archer}}'' doing things she does a TheBabyTrap in order to force Archer to focus more on her. To the extent that she is enraged that he does not immediately accept responsibility for a child which she conceived using stolen frozen sperm, and which she did not even tell him was his, until after the baby was born! And even during the pregnancy, when Archer proposed proposed, thinking he wasn't the father, she claimed she would "rather lose the baby than marry [him]" while (unknowingly) pointing a gun at her belly. She has also water boarded waterboarded Archer using the excuse that he had skipped out on the training training, when she really just wanted him to admit he was attracted to Veronica Deane. She also repeatedly tried tries to manipulate Archer using OperationJealousy because of her jeolousy jealousy of Veronica Veronica, only to get mad when it backfires.



* In one episode of ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'', Mojo Jojo gets an AnimalWrongsGroup to defend him against the Powerpuff Girls by crying that he's being oppressed whenever the girls try to stop him commiting crimes.
* Marge does this to a ridiculous degree in ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' which has only gotten worse as the series has gone on. While in the early seasons there were episodes such as [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS1E10HomersNightOut Homerís Night Out]] and [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS2E4TwoCarsInEveryGarageAndThreeEyesOnEveryFish Two Cars In Every Garage And Three Eyes On Every Fish]] where while not exactly in the wrong Marge really wasnít the victim the episode tries to present her as. However after {{Flanderization}} set in causing Marge TookALevelInJerkass Marge acts unappreciated and overworked for doing things that would and have gotten Homer villianized. For example prioritizing other childrenís happiness over her own.
** Margeís penitent of IncrediblyLameFun is also a big part of this in the early seasons the family would agree to do something Marge likes and the joke would be either they find something else to do in the process or the surprisingly have a good time while Marge would find the experience too stimulating. Later episodes would have her forcibly make family and romantic activities something that she would only like then get mad and act hurt when they didnít enjoy themselves.

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* In one episode of ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'', Mojo Jojo gets an AnimalWrongsGroup to defend him against the Powerpuff Girls by crying that he's being oppressed whenever the girls try to stop him commiting committing crimes.
* Marge does this to a ridiculous degree in ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' which has only gotten worse as the series has gone on. While in the early seasons there were episodes such as [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS1E10HomersNightOut Homerís Night Out]] and [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS2E4TwoCarsInEveryGarageAndThreeEyesOnEveryFish Two Cars In Every Garage And Three Eyes On Every Fish]] where where, while not exactly in the wrong wrong, Marge really wasnít the victim the episode tries to present her as. However after {{Flanderization}} set in causing in, during which Marge TookALevelInJerkass Marge TookALevelInJerkass, she acts unappreciated and overworked for doing things that would and have gotten Homer villianized. villainized. For example example, prioritizing other childrenís happiness over her own.
** Margeís penitent of penchant for IncrediblyLameFun is also a big part of this in the early seasons the seasons. The family would agree to do something Marge likes and the joke would be either that they find something else to do in the process or the that they have a surprisingly have a good time while Marge would find finds the experience too stimulating. Later episodes would have her forcibly make choosing family and romantic activities something that only she would only like like, then get getting mad and act acting hurt when they the others didnít enjoy themselves.
27th Oct '17 5:53:54 AM Wildstar93
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* In ''Literature/WingsOfFire'': ''Winter Turning'', ex-queen of the [=SkyWings=] [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen Scarlet]] rants at another dragon about how her life is ruined by the Dragonets Of Destiny. She also blatantly says that she's the victim in this situation and how someone should help ''her'' in her time of need.
7th Sep '17 8:03:23 AM Morgenthaler
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25th Aug '17 7:05:58 AM XFllo
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* Mithos in ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'', especially at the end of the game, right before the FinalBoss. Admittedly, his life had been [[DarkAndTroubledPast pretty rough]], what with [[DeadLittleSister his not-quite-dead sister Martel]] and the [[FantasticRacism racism of people towards half-elves]]. But, as Zelos says, it doesn't even come close to justifying all the things Mithos has done to save Martel and free the world of oppression, which includes [[NotSoDifferent forcing humans to work as slaves]] into research that would allow him to [[AndIMustScream turn everyone into lifeless beings]].

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* Mithos in ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'', especially at the end of the game, right before the FinalBoss. Admittedly, his life had been [[DarkAndTroubledPast pretty rough]], what with [[DeadLittleSister his not-quite-dead sister Martel]] Martel and the [[FantasticRacism racism of people towards half-elves]]. But, as Zelos says, it doesn't even come close to justifying all the things Mithos has done to save Martel and free the world of oppression, which includes [[NotSoDifferent forcing humans to work as slaves]] into research that would allow him to [[AndIMustScream turn everyone into lifeless beings]].
19th Aug '17 2:56:42 PM MyLittleXero
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** She did the same thing while dating Cyril being put off by his trust issues despite admitted early on that she implanted a tracking device in him. She also give him a really hard time for cheating on her, even though she cheated on him a few episodes earlier.

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** She did the same thing while dating Cyril being put off by his trust issues despite admitted early on that she implanted a tracking device in him. She also give him a really hard time for cheating on her, even though she cheated on him a few episodes earlier.
27th Jul '17 10:16:34 AM jessicaotiesha
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* Lana Lang does this throughout ''WesternAnimation/Archer'' doing things she does a TheBabyTrap in order to force Archer to focus more on her. To the extent that she is enraged that he does not immediately accept responsibility for a child which she conceived using stolen frozen sperm, and which she did not even tell him was his, until after the baby was born! And even during the pregnancy, when Archer proposed thinking he wasn't the father, she claimed she would "rather lose the baby than marry [him]" while (unknowingly) pointing a gun at her belly. She has also water boarded Archer using the excuse that he had skipped out on the training when she really just wanted him to admit he was attracted to Veronica Deane. She also repeatedly tried to manipulate Archer using OperationJealousy because her jeolousy of Veronica only to get mad when it backfires.

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* Lana Lang does this throughout ''WesternAnimation/Archer'' ''WesternAnimation/{{Archer}}'' doing things she does a TheBabyTrap in order to force Archer to focus more on her. To the extent that she is enraged that he does not immediately accept responsibility for a child which she conceived using stolen frozen sperm, and which she did not even tell him was his, until after the baby was born! And even during the pregnancy, when Archer proposed thinking he wasn't the father, she claimed she would "rather lose the baby than marry [him]" while (unknowingly) pointing a gun at her belly. She has also water boarded Archer using the excuse that he had skipped out on the training when she really just wanted him to admit he was attracted to Veronica Deane. She also repeatedly tried to manipulate Archer using OperationJealousy because her jeolousy of Veronica only to get mad when it backfires.
27th Jul '17 10:16:05 AM jessicaotiesha
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* Lana Lang does this throughout ''WesternAnimation/Archer'' doing things she does a TheBabyTrap in order to force Archer to focus more on her. To the extent that she is enraged that he does not immediately accept responsibility for a child which she conceived using stolen frozen sperm, and which she did not even tell him was his, until after the baby was born! And even during the pregnancy, when Archer proposed thinking he wasn't the father, she claimed she would "rather lose the baby than marry [him]" while (unknowingly) pointing a gun at her belly. She has also water boarded Archer using the excuse that he had skipped out on the training when she really just wanted him to admit he was attracted to Veronica Deane. She also repeatedly tried to manipulate Archer using OperationJealousy because her jeolousy of Veronica only to get mad when it backfires.
** She did the same thing while dating Cyril being put off by his trust issues despite admitted early on that she implanted a tracking device in him. She also give him a really hard time for cheating on her, even though she cheated on him a few episodes earlier.
** Cheryl eventually called her out on this admonishing her for constantly complaining about her job despite knowing that she would never leave it.
27th Jul '17 10:09:32 AM jessicaotiesha
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* Marge does this to a ridiculous degree in ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' which has only gotten worse as the series has gone on. While in the early seasons there were episodes such as [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS1E10HomersNightOut Homerís Night Out]] and [[Recap/TheSimpsonsS2E4TwoCarsInEveryGarageAndThreeEyesOnEveryFish Two Cars In Every Garage And Three Eyes On Every Fish]] where while not exactly in the wrong Marge really wasnít the victim the episode tries to present her as. However after {{Flanderization}} set in causing Marge TookALevelInJerkass Marge acts unappreciated and overworked for doing things that would and have gotten Homer villianized. For example prioritizing other childrenís happiness over her own.
** Margeís penitent of IncrediblyLameFun is also a big part of this in the early seasons the family would agree to do something Marge likes and the joke would be either they find something else to do in the process or the surprisingly have a good time while Marge would find the experience too stimulating. Later episodes would have her forcibly make family and romantic activities something that she would only like then get mad and act hurt when they didnít enjoy themselves.
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