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23rd Dec '16 1:08:52 PM LBHills
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* Shasta in ''Literature/TheHorseAndHisBoy'', has very little control over the plot, being surrounded by stronger personalities (including the titular horse) for most of the tale.
9th Dec '16 3:34:23 AM kuchiki222
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* This trope is discussed in an episode of ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'', in which Amy points this out in regards to ''Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk'', one of Sheldon's favorite movies. She argues that Indiana Jones is completely irrelevant to the plot: with or without him, the Nazis would have still [[spoiler: found the Ark, opened it, and been destroyed]]. Sheldon can't find any flaw in this logic, which causes a temporary HeroicBSOD; he spends the rest of the episode watching ''Series/LittleHouseOnThePrairie'', Amy's favorite TV show, in an attempt to find flaws in it and get revenge on her.

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* This trope is discussed in an episode of ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'', in which Amy points this out in regards to ''Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk'', one of Sheldon's favorite movies. She argues that Indiana Jones is completely irrelevant to the plot: with or without him, the Nazis would have still [[spoiler: found the Ark, opened it, and been destroyed]]. Sheldon can't find any flaw in this logic, which causes a temporary HeroicBSOD; he spends the rest of the episode watching ''Series/LittleHouseOnThePrairie'', Amy's favorite TV show, in an attempt to find flaws in it and get revenge on her. [[spoiler:In a subversion, Sheldon could have argued that without him, the Nazis could never have found out the real Ark, after all, Marion was strong enough to hold off Toht, and by the way he was going, the Ark's location will have lost with Marion.]]
28th Nov '16 11:26:51 PM DanaO
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* Luke Skywalker in ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi''. No, seriously. While the movie did have a great deal of CharacterDevelopment for him, he really didn't contribute much to the setting and the overall conflict here. Had he not been there, the movie would have ended much the same way, with the deaths of Palpatine and Darth Vader, and destruction of the Death Star. His actions let his father die a hero, but it's doubtful Luke could have ever convinced anyone of Vader's true hidden depths. (If you read the EU books, he clearly convinced nobody; Anakin Skywalker was forgiven by his son, but Luke was in the minute minority there.)

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* Luke Skywalker in ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi''. No, seriously. While the movie did have a great deal of CharacterDevelopment for him, he really didn't contribute much to the setting and the overall conflict here. Had he not been there, the movie would have ended much the same way, with the deaths of Palpatine and Darth Vader, and destruction of the Death Star. His actions let his father die a hero, but it's doubtful Luke could have ever convinced anyone of Vader's true hidden depths. (If you read the EU books, he clearly convinced nobody; Anakin Skywalker was forgiven by his son, but Luke was in the minute minority there. Although the EU books also establish that the death of Palpatine - who was psychically influencing his military forces at that time - is the only reason the Death Star ''did'' get destroyed and the Rebels survived, so it balances out.)
28th Nov '16 7:46:49 PM Anddrix
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* [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/HarryPotter Harry Potter]] is often considered this. While he often is the one accomplishing a task, the success is often completely determined by other characters assisting him such as Hermione and Dumbledore. In fact, many of the times that he actively tries to accomplish something on his own initiative end up making things worse for everyone due to his rashness and tendency to jump to conclusions. Snape [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LampshadeHanging Lampshades]] this in the beginning of [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince The Half-Blood Prince]] by calling him a mediocre wizard who mostly accomplishes things with the assistance of more talented allies.
** Although there are many examples throughout the series, the worst is probably [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire The Goblet of Fire]]. The main plot of the book is Harry competing in the Tri-Wizard tournament, which only occurs because one of the villains enters his name into the running. There are three tasks in the tournament, and he only solves each of them due to the excessive meddling of both his friends and enemies. In fact, there are a number of times where these parties have to beat him over the head with clues on how to solve each challenge.

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* [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/HarryPotter Harry Potter]] ''Literature/HarryPotter'' is often considered this. While he often is the one accomplishing a task, the success is often completely determined by other characters assisting him such as Hermione and Dumbledore. In fact, many of the times that he actively tries to accomplish something on his own initiative end up making things worse for everyone due to his rashness and tendency to jump to conclusions. Snape [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LampshadeHanging [[LampshadeHanging Lampshades]] this in the beginning of [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince The Half-Blood Prince]] ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince'' by calling him a mediocre wizard who mostly accomplishes things with the assistance of more talented allies.
** Although there are many examples throughout the series, the worst is probably [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire The Goblet of Fire]].''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire''. The main plot of the book is Harry competing in the Tri-Wizard tournament, which only occurs because one of the villains enters his name into the running. There are three tasks in the tournament, and he only solves each of them due to the excessive meddling of both his friends and enemies. In fact, there are a number of times where these parties have to beat him over the head with clues on how to solve each challenge.
28th Nov '16 7:41:43 PM sidestep
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* Raziel, one of two protagonists of the ''VideoGame/LegacyOfKain'' series, falls under this trope most of his screen time. He posesses an incredible power few characters in-story can match; but instead of completing his original quest, he tends to be unwillingly dragged in a GambitPileup by multiple Chessmasters at once, each of whom tries to use Raziel for their own agenda, so he often ends up being a SwordOfPlotAdvancement of sorts, rather than actual character. The quote of his sums it perfectly:
-->'''Raziel:''' What game was this, where every player on the board claimed the same pawn?
27th Nov '16 1:11:23 PM nombretomado
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* Shasta in ''[[TheChroniclesOfNarnia The Horse and His Boy]]'', has very little control over the plot, being surrounded by stronger personalities (including the titular horse) for most of the tale.

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* Shasta in ''[[TheChroniclesOfNarnia The Horse and His Boy]]'', ''Literature/TheHorseAndHisBoy'', has very little control over the plot, being surrounded by stronger personalities (including the titular horse) for most of the tale.
3rd Nov '16 7:26:48 AM lluewhyn
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* [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/HarryPotter Harry Potter]] is often considered this. While he often is the one accomplishing a task, the success is often completely determined by other characters assisting him such as Hermione and Dumbledore. In fact, many of the times that he actively tries to accomplish something on his own initiative end up making things worse for everyone due to his rashness and tendency to jump to conclusions. Snape [[http;//tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LampshadeHanging Lampshades]] this in the beginning of [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince The Half-Blood Prince]] by calling him a mediocre wizard who mostly accomplishes things with the assistance of more talented allies.

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* [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/HarryPotter Harry Potter]] is often considered this. While he often is the one accomplishing a task, the success is often completely determined by other characters assisting him such as Hermione and Dumbledore. In fact, many of the times that he actively tries to accomplish something on his own initiative end up making things worse for everyone due to his rashness and tendency to jump to conclusions. Snape [[http;//tvtropes.[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LampshadeHanging Lampshades]] this in the beginning of [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince The Half-Blood Prince]] by calling him a mediocre wizard who mostly accomplishes things with the assistance of more talented allies.
3rd Nov '16 7:25:56 AM lluewhyn
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* [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/HarryPotter Harry Potter]] is often considered this. While he often is the one accomplishing a task, the success is often completely determined by other characters assisting him such as Hermione and Dumbledore. In fact, many of the times that he actively tries to accomplish something on his own initiative end up making things worse for everyone due to his rashness and tendency to jump to conclusions. Snape [[tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LampshadeHanging Lampshades]] this in the beginning of [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince The Half-Blood Prince]] by calling him a mediocre wizard who mostly accomplishes things with the assistance of more talented allies.

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* [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/HarryPotter Harry Potter]] is often considered this. While he often is the one accomplishing a task, the success is often completely determined by other characters assisting him such as Hermione and Dumbledore. In fact, many of the times that he actively tries to accomplish something on his own initiative end up making things worse for everyone due to his rashness and tendency to jump to conclusions. Snape [[tvtropes.[[http;//tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LampshadeHanging Lampshades]] this in the beginning of [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince The Half-Blood Prince]] by calling him a mediocre wizard who mostly accomplishes things with the assistance of more talented allies.allies.
**Although there are many examples throughout the series, the worst is probably [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire The Goblet of Fire]]. The main plot of the book is Harry competing in the Tri-Wizard tournament, which only occurs because one of the villains enters his name into the running. There are three tasks in the tournament, and he only solves each of them due to the excessive meddling of both his friends and enemies. In fact, there are a number of times where these parties have to beat him over the head with clues on how to solve each challenge.
3rd Nov '16 7:21:04 AM lluewhyn
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*[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/HarryPotter Harry Potter]] is often considered this. While he often is the one accomplishing a task, the success is often completely determined by other characters assisting him such as Hermione and Dumbledore. In fact, many of the times that he actively tries to accomplish something on his own initiative end up making things worse for everyone due to his rashness and tendency to jump to conclusions. Snape [[tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LampshadeHanging Lampshades]] this in the beginning of [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince The Half-Blood Prince]] by calling him a mediocre wizard who mostly accomplishes things with the assistance of more talented allies.
29th Oct '16 7:07:07 PM drbreakfast
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* Although they're nominally the main characters of ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'', Team [=RWBY=] tend to have little, if any effect on the plot's progression. Most of their battles tend to end with the bad guys escaping unharmed, someone else swooping in to beat the bad guys, or the bad guys just winning outright.
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