History Main / PinballProtagonist

13th Nov '17 10:36:06 PM Chabal2
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** Tidus in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'' starts off the game as a FishOutOfWater and while he can fight (and play blitzball better than anyone else), his ignorance of some of the most fundamental tenets of life on Spira grind rather heavily on his companions (such as his carefree talk of what they'll do after Sin is defeated, as he doesn't learn until a long while that [[spoiler:Yuna is going to willingly sacrifice herself, as all Summoners do to keep Sin away]]).
16th Oct '17 8:04:00 PM crowmagnon
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* In ''TheForeigner2017'', Quan (played by Creator/JackieChan) turns out to be a very proactive version of this trope. After his daughter is killed by a bomb set off by terrorists claiming to be affiliated with [[WesternTerrorists the IRA]], he sets his sights on Irish politician and former IRA member Liam Hennessy simply because of this connection. He subjects Hennessy to a campaign of psychological warfare, setting off nonlethal bombs around his properties and beating up his bodyguards in order to get the names of the bombers out of it. The thing is, Hennessy is already cooperating with the police in order to find the bombers, whose targeting of civilians horrifies him. By the time he knows the names and gives them to Quan, the police have already been informed as well. Quan finds the bombers and kills almost all of them, nearly causing even more deaths because the police (who had already gotten a raid ready to go when Quan showed up) needed to get the location of a final bomb out of the last surviving terrorist before it blew.
3rd Oct '17 7:42:17 AM Monolaf317
Is there an issue? Send a Message




Added DiffLines:

* ''Anime/StrangeDawn'': Eri and Yuko don't really do much throughout the story, except for just communicating with the other characters. This is one of the main criticisms the anime received from reviewers.
28th Sep '17 11:16:11 AM Beacon80
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ''Literature/HarryPotter'' is often considered this. While he often is the one accomplishing a task, the success is often completely determined by other characters assisting him such as Hermione and Dumbledore. In fact, many of the times that he actively tries to accomplish something on his own initiative end up making things worse for everyone due to his rashness and tendency to jump to conclusions. Snape [[LampshadeHanging Lampshades]] this in the beginning of ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince'' by calling him a mediocre wizard who mostly accomplishes things with the assistance of more talented allies.
** Although there are many examples throughout the series, the worst is probably ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheGobletOfFire''. The main plot of the book is Harry competing in the Tri-Wizard tournament, which only occurs because one of the villains enters his name into the running. There are three tasks in the tournament, and he only solves each of them due to the excessive meddling of both his friends and enemies. In fact, there are a number of times where these parties have to beat him over the head with clues on how to solve each challenge.
22nd Sep '17 10:44:17 AM Ramidel
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Rolf of ''VideoGame/PhantasyStarII'' is basically an errand boy for the entire game. First his commander in Paseo orders him to investigate the Biosystems Labs and Climatrol, then he's ordered to open the dams to prevent flooding, then Tyler tells him about Dezo, and finally Lutz tells him about the evil plot originating from Noah.
20th Sep '17 2:18:33 PM N8han11
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ''The Pooh's Adventures'' series on Website/YouTube. Pooh doesn't do anything to change the plot of whatever movie he is in. He just spouts off random comments. In fact, when it does come time to fight the villain, it's usually someone else who vanquishes the villain.

to:

* ''The Pooh's Adventures'' The ''WebVideo/PoohsAdventures'' series on Website/YouTube. Pooh [[WesternAnimation/TheManyAdventuresOfWinnieThePooh Pooh]] doesn't do anything to change the plot of whatever movie he is in. He in, just spouts spouting off random comments. In fact, when it does come time to fight the villain, it's usually someone else who vanquishes the villain.
10th Sep '17 3:28:46 PM KingLyger
Is there an issue? Send a Message




Added DiffLines:

* The nephalem of ''VideoGame/DiabloIII'' don't really affect the story all that much, despite being the point-of-view characters for the plot. While they act as TheChampion and TheHeavy of the good guys, they don't really have much agency and mostly do whatever Tyreal or Deckard Cain tell them to. The bad guys do at least acknowledge that the nephalem have to be stopped, but beyond that, the actual plot is set in motion by the forces of Heaven and Hell and their desire to keep the Eternal Conflict in their favor.
7th Sep '17 12:47:05 PM igordebraga
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** A variant of this "rings"[[labelnote: Explanation for non NFL fans]]Each member of a championship winning team (including front office and coaches) traditionally gets a ring commemorating the championship, they are usually rather flashy and exaggerated, which is kind of the point[[/labelnote]] vs. "stats" is also at the heart of the debates whether Creator/PeytonManning or Creator/TomBrady was/is the better Quarterback. Manning has the better stats in almost any regard, but he has won "only" two Super Bowls (and lost another two) whereas Brady has won four and taken his team to another two (both lost to Peyton's little brother Eli Manning and the Giants). While Peyton's teams did have traits of EveryYearTheyFizzleOut, it is hardly the fault of the Quarterback when he leaves the field with a lead and the Defense fails to make a stop and it's also rather hard to blame dropped passes on the throw, rather than the catch.

to:

** A variant of this "rings"[[labelnote: Explanation for non NFL fans]]Each member of a championship winning team (including front office and coaches) traditionally gets a ring commemorating the championship, they are usually rather flashy and exaggerated, which is kind of the point[[/labelnote]] vs. "stats" is also at the heart of the debates whether Creator/PeytonManning or Creator/TomBrady was/is the better Quarterback. Manning has the better stats in almost any regard, but he has won "only" two Super Bowls (and lost another two) whereas Brady has won four five and taken his team to another two (both lost to Peyton's little brother Eli Manning and the Giants). While Peyton's teams did have traits of EveryYearTheyFizzleOut, it is hardly the fault of the Quarterback when he leaves the field with a lead and the Defense fails to make a stop and it's also rather hard to blame dropped passes on the throw, rather than the catch.
7th Sep '17 12:43:50 PM igordebraga
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Luke Skywalker in ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi''. No, seriously. While the movie did have a great deal of CharacterDevelopment for him, he really didn't contribute much to the setting and the overall conflict here. Had he not been there, the movie would have ended much the same way, with the deaths of Palpatine and Darth Vader, and destruction of the Death Star. His actions let his father die a hero, but it's doubtful Luke could have ever convinced anyone of Vader's true hidden depths. (If you read the EU books, he clearly convinced nobody; Anakin Skywalker was forgiven by his son, but Luke was in the minute minority there. Although the EU books also establish that the death of Palpatine - who was psychically influencing his military forces at that time - is the only reason the Death Star ''did'' get destroyed and the Rebels survived, so it balances out.)
** It's not quite like that. Actually the rebels only had a chance to destroy the Death Star because the Emperor knew Leku would be there. He used Vader as a bait to lure Luke and thus the whole Rebellion.
1st Sep '17 5:29:10 PM Dravencour
Is there an issue? Send a Message


Many characters will have pinball episodes where they are simply overloaded with too many problems in far too short of a time frame to do anything effective.

to:

Many characters will have pinball episodes where they are simply overloaded with too many problems in far too short of a time frame to be able to do anything effective.
This list shows the last 10 events of 412. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.PinballProtagonist