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28th Jun '16 7:25:03 AM Valiona
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* In ''Manga/FairyTail'', Mest, one of the candidates for Fairy Tail's annual S-Class Exam, [[ManipulativeBastard takes advantage of]] ''On'' when he asks Wendy to be his partner, saying that he was a disciple of Mystogan, the person who took Wendy in when she was young and brought her to Cait Shelter. Wendy accepts, in spite of the fact that there's no benefit for her (only the candidate can be promoted) and her best friend Carla's opposition to it (since Carla's suspicious of Mest and thinks the exam is dangerous for Wendy). Carla argues that because Wendy helped Mystogan in Edolas, she should consider the debt repaid, but Wendy doesn't agree, though, and [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness becomes stubborn enough that she doesn't talk to Carla for a week]]. Unfortunately for Wendy, it turns out that Mest is lying(Mystogan only showed up to take jobs and put everyone else to sleep while he did) manipulate her into getting him on the island so that he can investigate it for the Council.
15th Nov '15 5:51:54 PM nombretomado
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Understanding the Pillars can often help clarify the motivations and drives of {{anime}} characters, and can sometimes explain significant differences in audience reaction in Japan vs. in 'The West'. In particular, Western audiences may find the emphasis on carefully tracking debts and obligations and putting societal obligations above personal fulfilment a jarring contrast to the Western love of spontaneity and cult of the individual. Dissonance can also come from the other direction: some Japanese authors, including RumikoTakahashi, are surprised by their [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff series' international popularity]] as they assumed the underlying values to be uniquely Japanese with no parallel in other societies.

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Understanding the Pillars can often help clarify the motivations and drives of {{anime}} characters, and can sometimes explain significant differences in audience reaction in Japan vs. in 'The West'. In particular, Western audiences may find the emphasis on carefully tracking debts and obligations and putting societal obligations above personal fulfilment a jarring contrast to the Western love of spontaneity and cult of the individual. Dissonance can also come from the other direction: some Japanese authors, including RumikoTakahashi, Creator/RumikoTakahashi, are surprised by their [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff series' international popularity]] as they assumed the underlying values to be uniquely Japanese with no parallel in other societies.
20th Sep '15 8:04:01 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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* In the 1990s, the top stars of Wrestling/AllJapanProWrestling, Genichiro Tenryu, Mitsuharu Misawa, Kenta Kobashi and Akira Taue were [[FanNickname nicknamed]] "The Four Pillars" due to them all being hardworking, self sacrificing, honorable baby {{face}}s standing against an ever constant tide of {{evil foreigner}}s.[[/folder]]

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* In the 1990s, the top stars of Wrestling/AllJapanProWrestling, Genichiro Tenryu, Mitsuharu Misawa, Kenta Kobashi Toshiaki Kawada, Wrestling/MitsuharuMisawa, Wrestling/KentaKobashi and Akira Taue were [[FanNickname nicknamed]] "The Four Pillars" due to them all being hardworking, self sacrificing, honorable baby {{face}}s standing against an ever constant tide of {{evil foreigner}}s.[[/folder]]
25th May '15 1:49:58 AM Laura
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* Other than the DependingOnTheWriter bouts of madness with the Phoenix Force, ComicBook/JeanGrey can be a pretty decent person for the most part. She is usually presented as one of the more compassionate members of the X-Men as seen when she helped raise ComicBook/{{Cable}} to be more of a good man than [[BadFuture he would have been]], and comforting Jubilee after Illyana dies.
* ComicBook/KittyPryde gave The Beyonder a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech, which was pretty much the Crowning Moment of Awesome for the entire Franchise/MarvelUniverse. This is what allowed her to use the N-word uncensored in ''ComicBook/GodLovesManKills''. It would have just been too offensive coming from anyone else.
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Other than the DependingOnTheWriter bouts of madness with the Phoenix Force, ComicBook/JeanGrey can be a pretty decent person for the most part. She is usually presented as one of the more compassionate members of the X-Men as seen when she helped raise ComicBook/{{Cable}} to be more of a good man than [[BadFuture he would have been]], and comforting Jubilee after Illyana dies.
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7th May '15 9:24:32 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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* In the 1990s, the top stars of Wrestling/AllJapanProWrestling, Genichiro Tenryu, Mitsuharu Misawa, Kenta Kobashi and Akira Taue were [[FanNickname nicknamed]] "The Four Pillars" due to them all being hardworking, self sacrificing, honorable baby {{face}}s standing against an ever constant tide of {{evil foreigner}}s.[[/folder]]
26th Dec '14 11:58:55 AM TheUnsquished
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* In ''BattleTech'', the Draconis Combine emphasizes the ''Five Pillars'', especially ''giri'' and ''ninjo''. Fitting with the entire FeudalFuture and the Dracs pretending to be FeudalJapan [[RecycledINSPACE IN SPACE]]. Their CulturePolice are even called the Order of the Five Pillars.

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* In ''BattleTech'', ''TabletopGame/BattleTech'', the Draconis Combine emphasizes the ''Five Pillars'', especially ''giri'' and ''ninjo''. Fitting with the entire FeudalFuture and the Dracs pretending to be FeudalJapan [[RecycledINSPACE IN SPACE]]. Their CulturePolice are even called the Order of the Five Pillars.
24th Dec '14 9:15:23 PM Phoenixion
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* ComicBook/KittyPryde gave The Beyonder a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech, which was pretty much the Crowning Moment of Awesome for the entire Franchise/MarvelUniverse. This is what allowed her to use the N-word uncensored in ''ComicBook/GodLovesManKills''. It would have just been too offensive coming from anyone else.
22nd Dec '14 9:14:38 AM Phoenixion
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* Other than the DependingOnTheWriter bouts of madness with the Phoenix Force, ComicBook/JeanGrey can be a pretty decent person for the most part. She is usually presented as one of the more compassionate members of the X-Men as seen when she helped raise ComicBook/{{Cable}} to be more of a good man than [[BadFuture he would have been]], and comforting Jubilee after Illyana dies.
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10th Jul '14 9:35:43 AM Pyrite
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* For a long time the central conflict in many Japanese movies was ''giri'', what a character was expected to do vs. what he wanted to do. Film makers and old people lament that modern Japanese audiences don't care as much about this as they become more modernized. ''TwilightSamurai'' and ''TheHiddenBlade'' by YojiYamada both aim to bring ''giri'' to the contemporary audience in a way that humanizes the struggles of one's obligation/duty. And on the subject of ''giri'', the aforementioned scene in ''TheYakuza'' (''giri'' as ''burden'') is the closest thing in English to the spirit of the meaning of the word.

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* For a long time the central conflict in many Japanese movies was ''giri'', what a character was expected to do vs. what he wanted to do. Film makers and old people lament that modern Japanese audiences don't care as much about this as they become more modernized. ''TwilightSamurai'' and ''TheHiddenBlade'' by YojiYamada Creator/YojiYamada both aim to bring ''giri'' to the contemporary audience in a way that humanizes the struggles of one's obligation/duty. And on the subject of ''giri'', the aforementioned scene in ''TheYakuza'' (''giri'' as ''burden'') is the closest thing in English to the spirit of the meaning of the word.
15th Jun '14 11:44:18 AM TastySauce
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-- Proverb from [[NewerThanTheyThink the Imperial Rescript to Soldiers and Sailors (1882)]] [[ArcWords quoted to death]] by [[TheWheelOfTime Rand al'Thor]]''

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-- Proverb '''Proverb from [[NewerThanTheyThink the Imperial Rescript to Soldiers and Sailors (1882)]] [[ArcWords quoted to death]] by [[TheWheelOfTime [[Literature/TheWheelOfTime Rand al'Thor]]''
al'Thor]]'''



* The applicability of this trope to ''RanmaOneHalf'' is a matter of heavy, ''[[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation heavy]]'' personal opinion, as none of the characters are portrayed as anything more than remotely honorable and both messes are played for all the comedy they can. It mainly pops up in regards the LoveDodecahedron, as this isn't merely a matter of multiple girls being attracted to the same guy. Akane Tendo and Ukyo Kuonji both have an ArrangedMarriage to Ranma Saotome, and in Ukyo Kuonji's case she also has a ChildhoodMarriagePromise from Ranma ''and'' Genma stole her dowry after agreeing to the arrangement. Shampoo's bond to Ranma may only be an AccidentalMarriage, but her people take it seriously enough that she was cursed just for coming back without him the first time. A few fans also think Ranma's reluctance to reveal the fact Ryoga is P-chan to Akane stems from an honor conflict (typically considered to be Ninjo versus Giri), as he did originally make a promise in his head when he believed Ryoga to be a stray dog he had found that he would keep Ryoga's curse a secret, noting it was the "warrior's code" to do so, only to then find out that Akane intended to take her new pet to bed and make an attempt to remove him from her bedroom.

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* The applicability of this trope to ''RanmaOneHalf'' ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'' is a matter of heavy, ''[[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation heavy]]'' personal opinion, as none of the characters are portrayed as anything more than remotely honorable and both messes are played for all the comedy they can. It mainly pops up in regards the LoveDodecahedron, as this isn't merely a matter of multiple girls being attracted to the same guy. Akane Tendo and Ukyo Kuonji both have an ArrangedMarriage to Ranma Saotome, and in Ukyo Kuonji's case she also has a ChildhoodMarriagePromise from Ranma ''and'' Genma stole her dowry after agreeing to the arrangement. Shampoo's bond to Ranma may only be an AccidentalMarriage, but her people take it seriously enough that she was cursed just for coming back without him the first time. A few fans also think Ranma's reluctance to reveal the fact Ryoga is P-chan to Akane stems from an honor conflict (typically considered to be Ninjo versus Giri), as he did originally make a promise in his head when he believed Ryoga to be a stray dog he had found that he would keep Ryoga's curse a secret, noting it was the "warrior's code" to do so, only to then find out that Akane intended to take her new pet to bed and make an attempt to remove him from her bedroom.



* Much of the main plot of ''Anime/{{Monster}}'' happens the way it does because Tenma tends to view his act of saving Johan in terms of ''giri'' -- he is chasing Johan to put right that which he did wrong, and is not interested in taking time off to prove his innocence until his obligation is fulfilled. The longer Johan remains alive, the more innocent people will die on account of it. On the same side, Tenma also holds the virtue of ''Ninjo'' as a core of his philosophy and will take a detour if it means saving innocents. On the counter-side one might say that Johan is acting out of a twisted sense of ''On''.

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* Much of the main plot of ''Anime/{{Monster}}'' ''Manga/{{Monster}}'' happens the way it does because Tenma tends to view his act of saving Johan in terms of ''giri'' -- he is chasing Johan to put right that which he did wrong, and is not interested in taking time off to prove his innocence until his obligation is fulfilled. The longer Johan remains alive, the more innocent people will die on account of it. On the same side, Tenma also holds the virtue of ''Ninjo'' as a core of his philosophy and will take a detour if it means saving innocents. On the counter-side one might say that Johan is acting out of a twisted sense of ''On''.



* ''{{Vagabond}}'' has MiyamotoMusashi effectively owing his life to Yoshioka Denshichirou who told him to stay alive and train until they can duel again the next year, since their first fight is interrupted by a fire in the dojo. Musashi does just this and ends up cutting him down. Nevertheless, even when the remaining heir to the Yoshioka plots his death by having all of their seventy remaining members attack him, before the fight he thanks them silently for his being "raised in the bosom of the Yoshioka" (as in that year given to him by Denshichirou he greatly improved), then [[spoiler:he kills them all]].

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* ''{{Vagabond}}'' ''Manga/{{Vagabond}}'' has MiyamotoMusashi effectively owing his life to Yoshioka Denshichirou who told him to stay alive and train until they can duel again the next year, since their first fight is interrupted by a fire in the dojo. Musashi does just this and ends up cutting him down. Nevertheless, even when the remaining heir to the Yoshioka plots his death by having all of their seventy remaining members attack him, before the fight he thanks them silently for his being "raised in the bosom of the Yoshioka" (as in that year given to him by Denshichirou he greatly improved), then [[spoiler:he kills them all]].



* In ''TowerOfGod'' Gimu is the reason Hatsu wanted to help Rachel continue to climb the tower.
* ''FistOfTheNorthStar'' features multiple variations on the same theme: Shuu blinding himself to save a young Kenshiro, Falco severing his own leg to convince Raoh to leave his village alone, Shachi [[EyeScream plucking out his own eye]] to save Kenshiro, and Ohka throwing herself off a cliff to convince the Hokuto priests to spare her sister's son. In all of these, the party in question has essentially burdened their aggressor with a debt that can ''never'' be repaid.
* Of all places, ''HighSchoolOfTheDead'' has several scenes where - while not explicitly stated - ''giri'' plays a heavy role in the sense of following the rules and obligations of civilized society. Numerous characters are shown struggling with doing what is necessary for survival during the ZombieApocalypse simply because it's the wrong thing to do; this extends even to things such as taking something that doesn't belong to them like a moped or food, despite the fact that the previous owners are visibly dead just a few feet away. The breakdown of ''ninjō'' also shows in the selfishness and decadence of several groups. Then there's the unsavory types who willingly throw away any sense of morals and use force or charisma to simply take what they want from the chaos.

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* In ''TowerOfGod'' ''Webcomic/TowerOfGod'' Gimu is the reason Hatsu wanted to help Rachel continue to climb the tower.
* ''FistOfTheNorthStar'' ''Manga/FistOfTheNorthStar'' features multiple variations on the same theme: Shuu blinding himself to save a young Kenshiro, Falco severing his own leg to convince Raoh to leave his village alone, Shachi [[EyeScream plucking out his own eye]] to save Kenshiro, and Ohka throwing herself off a cliff to convince the Hokuto priests to spare her sister's son. In all of these, the party in question has essentially burdened their aggressor with a debt that can ''never'' be repaid.
* Of all places, ''HighSchoolOfTheDead'' ''Manga/HighSchoolOfTheDead'' has several scenes where - while not explicitly stated - ''giri'' plays a heavy role in the sense of following the rules and obligations of civilized society. Numerous characters are shown struggling with doing what is necessary for survival during the ZombieApocalypse simply because it's the wrong thing to do; this extends even to things such as taking something that doesn't belong to them like a moped or food, despite the fact that the previous owners are visibly dead just a few feet away. The breakdown of ''ninjō'' also shows in the selfishness and decadence of several groups. Then there's the unsavory types who willingly throw away any sense of morals and use force or charisma to simply take what they want from the chaos.
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