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12th May '16 4:38:13 AM LarsT.
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* The Amazons are a gender-flipped warrior race where the men are lucky if they end up as slaves and aren't killed right out after they were used for sex for propagation. And the women have to remove a breast so it doesn't get in the way of their bow. So everything is worse when women rule.
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8th May '16 9:15:34 PM Fireblood
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* ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06DKCdJWK2c Babakiueria (Barbeque Area)]]'' is an Australian film that does this with imperial Aborigines taking over and oppressing white Australians.

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* ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06DKCdJWK2c Babakiueria ''Babakiueria (Barbeque Area)]]'' Area)'' is an Australian film that does this with imperial Aborigines taking over and oppressing white Australians.
8th May '16 9:14:51 PM Fireblood
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* The whole point of the film ''Film/WhiteMansBurden'', where blacks are on the racial majority in America and whites are the minority.

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* The whole point of the film ''Film/WhiteMansBurden'', where blacks are on the racial majority in America and whites are the minority.
8th May '16 10:38:45 AM KizunaTallis
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When most writers want to write about discrimination and oppression, they stick to real-world examples -- after all, there are plenty of those. Some writers, however, wonder: "What if it were the other way round?" What if Africans had enslaved Europeans? What if India had colonized England? What if [[LadyLand women had all the power and men had to stay in the kitchen]]? And so on and so forth. There may be a semi-plausible AlternateHistory explanation for the switch, but just as often it simply is that way.

Often this is not just an interesting what-if, but a way of making a point, saying to the privileged group "well, how would ''you'' like it if...?" This tends to be {{Anvilicious}}, though [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped not always in a bad way]]. The message may also be that power corrupts, and no matter who's on top, things will always suck for the group on the bottom.

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When most writers want to write about discrimination and oppression, they stick to real-world examples -- after all, there are plenty of those. Some writers, however, wonder: "What if it were the other way round?" around?" What if Africans blacks had enslaved Europeans? whites? What if India had colonized England? What if [[LadyLand women had all the power and men had to stay in the kitchen]]? And so on and so forth. There may be a semi-plausible AlternateHistory explanation for the switch, but just as often it simply is that way.

Often this is not just an interesting what-if, but a way of making a point, saying to the privileged group "well, how would ''you'' like it if...?" This tends to be {{Anvilicious}}, though [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped not always in a bad way]]. The message may also be that power corrupts, and no matter who's on top, things will always suck for the group on the bottom.
bottom, and [[CaptainObviousAesop discrimination of any kind is wrong]].



* The film ''Film/WhiteMansBurden''.

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* The whole point of the film ''Film/WhiteMansBurden''.''Film/WhiteMansBurden'', where blacks are on the racial majority in America and whites are the minority.
28th Apr '16 6:01:26 PM Fireblood
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* Creator/EdgarAllanPoe's story ''Doctor Tarr and Professor Feather''. It involves inmates taking over an aslyum which "coddled" them and treating their former doctors, now the inmates, in a BedlamHouse way. It has a kind of FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: [[TheFarmerAndTheViper If you treat those weaker than you with kindness, they'll just take advantage of you and then do worse.]] One interpretation of the story is that it's a metaphor for Poe's views of American blacks (which, considering that he was a proponent of slavery, isn't terribly implausible). The film ''Film/StonehearstAsylum'' was based on this story, and is [[SocietyMarchesOn far more sympathetic to the patients]], given the kind of "[[ColdBloodedTorture treatments]]" used in 19th century insane asylums.

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* Creator/EdgarAllanPoe's story ''Doctor ''The System of Doctor Tarr and Professor Feather''. It involves inmates taking over an aslyum which "coddled" them and treating their former doctors, now the inmates, in a BedlamHouse way. It has a kind of FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: [[TheFarmerAndTheViper If you treat those weaker than you with kindness, they'll just take advantage of you and then do worse.]] One interpretation of the story is that it's a metaphor for Poe's views of American blacks (which, considering that he was a proponent of slavery, isn't terribly implausible). The film ''Film/StonehearstAsylum'' was based on this story, and is [[SocietyMarchesOn far more sympathetic to the patients]], given the kind of "[[ColdBloodedTorture treatments]]" used in 19th century insane asylums.



* The StanfordPrisonExperiment was a study done with college students which had some be jailers, and some jailed. The jailers were somewhat oppressive, but only somewhat. After a time, they switched. The once-jailed-now-jailers were much more oppressive. The experiment's validity has been questioned, though, since it had the experimenter (Philip Zimbardo) actively involved (in the role of warden) and didn't screen whether participants who became violent were already prone to this. It cannot be replicated to find out whether its results were valid, [[ScienceMarchesOn as modern ethical rules prohibit doing so]].

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* The StanfordPrisonExperiment was a study done with college students which had some be jailers, and some jailed. The jailers were somewhat oppressive, but only somewhat. After a time, they switched. The once-jailed-now-jailers were much more oppressive. The experiment's validity has been questioned, though, since it had the experimenter (Philip Zimbardo) actively involved (in the role of warden) and didn't screen whether participants who became violent were already prone to this. It cannot be replicated to find out whether its results were valid, [[ScienceMarchesOn [[SocietyMarchesOn as modern ethical rules prohibit doing so]].
28th Apr '16 6:46:42 AM Willbyr
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28th Apr '16 6:46:30 AM Willbyr
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24th Apr '16 12:37:19 PM Fireblood
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* Creator/EdgarAllanPoe's story ''Doctor Tarr and Professor Feather''. It involves inmates taking over an aslyum which "coddled" them and treating their former doctors, now the inmates, in a BedlamHouse way. It has a kind of FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: [[TheFarmerAndTheViper If you treat those weaker than you with kindness, they'll just take advantage of you and then do worse.]] One interpretation of the story is that it's a metaphor for Poe's views of American blacks (which, considering that he was a proponent of slavery, isn't terribly implausible). The film ''Film/StonehearstAsylum'' was based on this story, and is [[SocietyMarchesOn far more sympathetic to the patients]], given the kind of "treatments" used in 19th century [[BedlamHouse insane asylums]].

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* Creator/EdgarAllanPoe's story ''Doctor Tarr and Professor Feather''. It involves inmates taking over an aslyum which "coddled" them and treating their former doctors, now the inmates, in a BedlamHouse way. It has a kind of FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: [[TheFarmerAndTheViper If you treat those weaker than you with kindness, they'll just take advantage of you and then do worse.]] One interpretation of the story is that it's a metaphor for Poe's views of American blacks (which, considering that he was a proponent of slavery, isn't terribly implausible). The film ''Film/StonehearstAsylum'' was based on this story, and is [[SocietyMarchesOn far more sympathetic to the patients]], given the kind of "treatments" "[[ColdBloodedTorture treatments]]" used in 19th century [[BedlamHouse insane asylums]].asylums.


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* In ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'', after Daenerys frees the slaves of Astapor the council she leaves in charge is quickly overthrown by a former slave and butcher named Cleon, who takes the highborn boys to be trained as Unsullied-i.e. eunuch slave soldiers.
24th Apr '16 6:51:10 AM Willbyr
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* In the manga ''Manga/{{Ooku}}'', after [[{{Gendercide}} a disease kills off a large percentage of the male population]], feudal Japan becomes a female-dominated society, with women as leaders and warriors and men viewed as sex objects too delicate to fight (or farm, or fish, or...).

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* In the manga ''Manga/{{Ooku}}'', after [[{{Gendercide}} a disease kills off a large percentage of the male population]], feudal Japan becomes a female-dominated society, with women as leaders and warriors and men viewed as sex objects too delicate to fight (or farm, or fish, or...).
13th Mar '16 3:22:38 PM Morgenthaler
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* ''{{Sliders}}'' had one episode where women were the dominant gender. Another where Mexico won the Mexican-American war so Americans were the day laborers. And some others that get just bizarre.

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* ''{{Sliders}}'' ''Series/{{Sliders}}'' had one episode where women were the dominant gender. Another where Mexico won the Mexican-American war so Americans were the day laborers. And some others that get just bizarre.



* One season of ''TheTwoRonnies'' had a serial called "The Worm That Turned" in which men were oppressed in a fascist female-dominated future England. It was about what you'd have expected at the time.

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* One season of ''TheTwoRonnies'' ''Series/TheTwoRonnies'' had a serial called "The Worm That Turned" in which men were oppressed in a fascist female-dominated future England. It was about what you'd have expected at the time.
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