History Main / PeoplesRepublicofTyranny

5th Jul '16 8:28:45 AM R1ck
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[[caption-width-right:350:[[note]]For those interested, inside the intersection of the circles lies the People's Republic of Bangladesh, the Democratic Republic of Timor Leste, the Federal Democratic Republic of Nepal, Democratic Republic of São Tomé and Príncipe, and the Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka--and the last one's right on the edge.[[/note]]]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:[[note]]For [[caption-width-right:350:At least there's still a bit of overlap...[[note]]For those interested, inside the intersection of the circles lies the People's Republic of Bangladesh, the Democratic Republic of Timor Leste, the Federal Democratic Republic of Nepal, Democratic Republic of São Tomé and Príncipe, and the Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka--and the last one's right on the edge.[[/note]]]]
5th Jul '16 8:27:45 AM R1ck
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[[caption-width-right:350:Actually, maybe that should look more like an 8. Or maybe not quite.[[note]]For those interested, inside the intersection of the circles lies the People's Republic of Bangladesh, the Democratic Republic of Timor Leste, the Federal Democratic Republic of Nepal, Democratic Republic of São Tomé and Príncipe, and the Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka--and the last one's right on the edge.[[/note]]]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:Actually, maybe that should look more like an 8. Or maybe not quite.[[note]]For [[caption-width-right:350:[[note]]For those interested, inside the intersection of the circles lies the People's Republic of Bangladesh, the Democratic Republic of Timor Leste, the Federal Democratic Republic of Nepal, Democratic Republic of São Tomé and Príncipe, and the Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka--and the last one's right on the edge.[[/note]]]]
16th Jun '16 11:47:27 PM BattleMaster
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** It doesn't look quite as bad in [[Literature/StarshipTroopers the book]]. Maybe.

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** It doesn't look quite as bad in [[Literature/StarshipTroopers the book]]. Maybe. But Heinlein appeared to have the opinion that a government that required you to earn the right to vote or breed might have been a good thing.



But not all are exactly tyrannies. The Federated Suns and the Lyran Commonwealth, for ex, are relatively civilized and mostly law-governed places, the power of the monarch is not absolute in practice, even if it is in theory (they are not figureheads, but neither realm is a despotism, either). The Draconis Combine, OTOH, most certainly ''is'' an iron militarism, with harsh regimentation and all the nasty appurtances of a police state. The Free World League barely holds together, and Capella is somewhere in between the civilized monarchies and Draconia in terms of its freedom and decency rating. Nor were the rulers of the collapsed Star League absolute monarchs, though they were most certainly monarchs. The applicability of the trope varies here.\\\

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But not all are exactly tyrannies. The Federated Suns and the Lyran Commonwealth, for ex, are relatively civilized and mostly law-governed places, the power of the monarch is not absolute in practice, even if it is in theory (they are not figureheads, but neither realm is a despotism, either). The Draconis Combine, OTOH, most certainly ''is'' an iron militarism, with harsh regimentation and all the nasty appurtances of a police state. The Free World League barely holds together, and Capella is somewhere in between the civilized monarchies and Draconia in terms of its freedom and decency rating.rating with some authors portraying it as fairly free and others portraying it as extremely oppressive. Nor were the rulers of the collapsed Star League absolute monarchs, though they were most certainly monarchs. The applicability of the trope varies here.\\\
21st May '16 3:51:49 PM Doug86
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* The Federation in ''Film/StarshipTroopers'', the full name of which [[AllInTheManual according to background material]] is apparently the "United Citizens' Federation". Only Citizens (which is a privileged status one has to earn; there are a few ways to do this, but military service is the easiest, as the news films proudly declare "SERVICE GUARANTEES CITIZENSHIP") are allowed to vote, you need a license to breed (Citizens can obtain a license more easily), murderers are arrested, tried and executed the same day, the media is nothing but government-owned propaganda, and everyone is '''horribly''' desensitized to violence. That said, things don't seem ''too'' bad for non-Citizens, though we only see the wealthy ones.

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* The Federation in ''Film/StarshipTroopers'', the full name of which [[AllInTheManual [[AllThereInTheManual according to background material]] is apparently the "United Citizens' Federation". Only Citizens (which is a privileged status one has to earn; there are a few ways to do this, but military service is the easiest, as the news films proudly declare "SERVICE GUARANTEES CITIZENSHIP") are allowed to vote, you need a license to breed (Citizens can obtain a license more easily), murderers are arrested, tried and executed the same day, the media is nothing but government-owned propaganda, and everyone is '''horribly''' desensitized to violence. That said, things don't seem ''too'' bad for non-Citizens, though we only see the wealthy ones.
3rd Apr '16 2:41:44 PM Jake
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** It doesn't look quite as bad in [[Literature/StarshipTroopers the book]]. Maybe.
3rd Apr '16 9:37:05 AM MsChibi
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Compare ANaziByAnyOtherName, SuspiciouslySpecificDenial, and DayOfTheJackboot.

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Compare ANaziByAnyOtherName, SuspiciouslySpecificDenial, and DayOfTheJackboot.
DayOfTheJackboot. See also BananaRepublic and some depictions of DarkestAfrica.
30th Mar '16 5:28:11 PM MsChibi
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Compare ANaziByAnyOtherName and DayOfTheJackboot.

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Compare ANaziByAnyOtherName ANaziByAnyOtherName, SuspiciouslySpecificDenial, and DayOfTheJackboot.
25th Mar '16 4:45:24 PM DaibhidC
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* In ''The Compleat Literature/{{Discworld}} Atlas'', it's revealed that the Agatean Empire is now the People's Beneficent Republic of Agatea. Madame Chairwoman is Twoflower's daughter Pretty Butterfly, who's not really ''evil'' as such, but the included list of regulations does suggest that the typical peasant doesn't have much more freedom than he did under a succession of insane emperors. And probably a lot less than he did under Emperor Cohen. This was foreshadowed back in ''Discworld/InterestingTimes'', when Rincewind predicted that if the Red Army overthrew the empire and announced the guys standing in fields looking after water buffalo now ruled themselves "by means of the People's Committee" there probably wouldn't actually be many water-buffalo-string-holders on the Committee, and probably quite a few members of the Red Army.
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25th Mar '16 4:44:54 PM DaibhidC
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* In ''The Compleat Literature/{{Discworld}} Atlas'', it's revealed that the Agatean Empire is now the People's Beneficent Republic of Agatea. Madame Chairwoman is Twoflower's daughter Pretty Butterfly, who's not really ''evil'' as such, but the included list of regulations does suggest that the typical peasant doesn't have much more freedom than he did under a succession of insane emperors. And probably a lot less than he did under Emperor Cohen. This was foreshadowed back in ''Discworld/InterestingTimes'', when Rincewind predicted that if the Red Army overthrew the empire and announced the guys standing in fields looking after water buffalo now ruled themselves "by means of the People's Committee" there probably wouldn't actually be many water-buffalo-string-holders on the Committee, and probably quite a few members of the Red Army.
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1st Feb '16 6:45:01 PM nombretomado
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* Rather [[NightmareFuel terrifyingly]], Bane [[spoiler:turns Gotham City into this]] during ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'', complete with {{Kangaroo Court}}s reminiscent of the French Revolution (this link is quite explicit, as Commissioner Gordon actually quotes ''ATaleOfTwoCities'' at one point, and in an interview, we learn that Jonathan Nolan actually encouraged Christopher Nolan to read the book while he was writing the script). The wealthy are dragged out of their homes by angry mobs of armed criminals and summarily sentenced to death by a kangaroo court led by [[spoiler:Jonathan Crane... a.k.a. the Scarecrow]], who icily informs every defendant that "Your guilt has already been determined; this is merely a sentencing," where it turns out that [[MortonsFork both sentences are actually the same thing]]. Bane declares that this is a "liberation" and that he's a champion of "the people." [[spoiler:The audience isn't fooled, as he already made his ''real'' nature ''[[ToThePain painfully]]'' [[http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/when-gotham-is-ashes-you-have-my-permission-to-die clear]] to Batman earlier in the film.]]

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* Rather [[NightmareFuel terrifyingly]], Bane [[spoiler:turns Gotham City into this]] during ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'', complete with {{Kangaroo Court}}s reminiscent of the French Revolution (this link is quite explicit, as Commissioner Gordon actually quotes ''ATaleOfTwoCities'' ''Literature/ATaleOfTwoCities'' at one point, and in an interview, we learn that Jonathan Nolan actually encouraged Christopher Nolan to read the book while he was writing the script). The wealthy are dragged out of their homes by angry mobs of armed criminals and summarily sentenced to death by a kangaroo court led by [[spoiler:Jonathan Crane... a.k.a. the Scarecrow]], who icily informs every defendant that "Your guilt has already been determined; this is merely a sentencing," where it turns out that [[MortonsFork both sentences are actually the same thing]]. Bane declares that this is a "liberation" and that he's a champion of "the people." [[spoiler:The audience isn't fooled, as he already made his ''real'' nature ''[[ToThePain painfully]]'' [[http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/when-gotham-is-ashes-you-have-my-permission-to-die clear]] to Batman earlier in the film.]]
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