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3rd Jan '17 5:00:05 AM VicGeorge2011
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* [[UnderwaterCity Rapture]] in ''VideoGame/{{Bioshock}}'' was built to be a capitalist utopia free from religious and government interference, where anyone can achieve for his/her own gain rather than for the fulfilment of others, and where the artist need not fear the censor and the scientist need not be bound by petty morality. Too bad the man who built it, Andrew Ryan, was also a crazy hyper-capitalist who so strongly believed everyone had to be a SelfMadeMan that he prohibited publicly funded social programs and altruistic charities, so everything in the city was privately owned, [[{{Dehumanization}} the poor were thought of as "parasites"]] and absolutely everything had a price tag on it, even basic necessities like food, water, sanitation and ''oxygen''. This environment of completely unfettered dog-eat-dog economics alienated the worse-off citizens of Rapture and allowed a man named Frank Fontaine to make an absolute killing smuggling contraband from the surface. Ryan could not compete with Fontaine on even terms and this emerging threat to his power base pissed Ryan off to no end, so he founded a SecretPolice force to seize Fontaine Futuristics by force, scuttling his entire philosophy in the process. Ryan didn't know at the time but for the rest of Rapture, this meant that Ryan seize any business deemed ''too'' profitable, and [[CivilWar this was the last straw]]. Ryan, a man who founded an underwater city built on the ideals of personal liberty, began cracking down ever harder on his citizens - first his police came for the smugglers, then they came for political activists, and eventually they [[AllCrimesAreEqual came for the lounge singers who wrote mildly derisive songs about him]]. In the end, Ryan turned Rapture into a OneNationUnderCopyright NotSoDifferent [[HeWhoFightsMonsters from the collectivist states he so greatly despised]].

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* [[UnderwaterCity Rapture]] in ''VideoGame/{{Bioshock}}'' was built to be a capitalist utopia free from religious and government interference, where anyone can achieve for his/her own gain rather than for the fulfilment of others, and where the artist need not fear the censor and the scientist need not be bound by petty morality. Too bad the man who built it, Andrew Ryan, was also a crazy hyper-capitalist who so strongly believed everyone had to be a SelfMadeMan that he prohibited publicly funded social programs and altruistic charities, so everything in the city was privately owned, [[{{Dehumanization}} the poor were thought of as "parasites"]] and absolutely everything had a price tag on it, even basic necessities like food, water, sanitation and ''oxygen''. This environment of completely unfettered dog-eat-dog economics alienated the worse-off citizens of Rapture and allowed a man named Frank Fontaine to make an absolute killing smuggling contraband from the surface. Ryan could not compete with Fontaine on even terms and this emerging threat to his power base pissed Ryan off to no end, so he founded a SecretPolice force to seize Fontaine Futuristics by force, scuttling his entire philosophy in the process. Ryan didn't know at the time but for the rest of Rapture, this meant that Ryan can seize any business deemed ''too'' profitable, and [[CivilWar this was the last straw]]. Ryan, a man who founded an underwater city built on the ideals of personal liberty, began cracking down ever harder on his citizens - first his police came for the smugglers, then they came for political activists, and eventually they [[AllCrimesAreEqual came for the lounge singers who wrote mildly derisive songs about him]]. In the end, Ryan turned Rapture into a OneNationUnderCopyright NotSoDifferent [[HeWhoFightsMonsters from the collectivist states he so greatly despised]].
26th Dec '16 8:09:28 PM PaulA
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* ''Series/FlashGordon'': In the 2007 series, Ming's authoritarian state is called "The United Peoples of Mongo."

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* ''Series/FlashGordon'': In the 2007 series, ''Series/{{Flash Gordon|2007}}'': Ming's authoritarian state is called "The United Peoples of Mongo."Mongo".
7th Dec '16 4:40:49 PM chc232323
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** [[Literature/StarshipTroopers The book]] is a strange case that borders SquarePegRoundTrope. It's a mild form of this trope and isn't (late 2016) currently on the Literature section for this trope. The book is usually exaggerated to the point of parody by those who haven't read it, like (famously) the film's director. As this is a long discussion, it's in the note. [[note]]Heinlein wrote that a "thing given has no value," so forcing those who wished to execute "the supreme executive power" (IE: vote, but also things like law enforcement) had to pay for it with at least two years of service. This service could be military or not, but it was supposed to be rigorous and unpleasant and possibly dangerous, if only so those who made the choice to pursue government and political power paid dearly for it and would value it. As long as you could make your own legal decisions (IE: 18 years of age, not currently intoxicated, and not suffering mental illness) you could not be turned away. Some thoroughly unpleasant form of Federal service would be found to accommodate any level of disability. You could quit service as well, even right before a combat operation, and the only penalty was that you would not be allowed to re-enter and try to earn the franchise again. Claims like his world policed breeding are not found in the text (and are only found in the film). Rico's father, who is very wealthy and owns large business interests, is proud his family never had been in the service at the start of the book. Basically, service guarantees only the right to vote and serve in some elected or law enforcement roles, with most government posts being filled by civilian contractors. All that said, his Mobile Infantry really has a cavalier and terrifying attitude toward the life of its tropes, a willingness to indoctrinate them beyond most modern armies, and a rather sexually repressed, rather joyless feel where the stretches between combat drops have little to no character, to say nothing of how quickly one's superiors could decide you were a lost cause and kick you out of the service, thus ending your dream of winning the franchise and voting rights. The MI also are quite alright with causing horrific civilian casualties to the enemy, such as the "Skinnies," with the initial raid on them specifically mentioning that the MI is not attempting to cause excessive civilian deaths ''this time'' because it's only meant to scare the Skinnies into realizing how dangerous it could get for them if they don't switch sides in the war. Finally, the "species-ism" and submission of the individual in the book, where Johnny keeps talking about fighting for humanity, really only works because it's contrasted against the ant colony-like pseudoarachnids, who (probably) possess no individuality whatsoever.[[/note]]

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** [[Literature/StarshipTroopers The book]] is a strange case that borders SquarePegRoundTrope. It's a mild form of this trope and isn't (late 2016) currently on the Literature section for this trope. The book is usually exaggerated to the point of parody by those who haven't read it, like (famously) the film's director. As this is a long discussion, it's in the note. [[note]]Heinlein wrote that a "thing given has no value," so forcing those who wished to execute "the supreme executive power" (IE: vote, but also things like law enforcement) had to pay for it with at least two years of service. This service could be military or not, but it was supposed to be rigorous and unpleasant and possibly dangerous, if only so those who made the choice to pursue government and political power paid dearly for it and would value it. As long as you could make your own legal decisions (IE: 18 years of age, not currently intoxicated, and not suffering mental illness) you could not be turned away. Some thoroughly unpleasant form of Federal service would be found to accommodate any level of disability. You could quit service as well, even right before a combat operation, and the only penalty was that you would not be allowed to re-enter and try to earn the franchise again. Claims like his world policed breeding are not found in the text (and are only found in the film). Rico's father, who is very wealthy and owns large business interests, is proud his family never had been in the service at the start of the book. Basically, service guarantees only the right to vote and serve in some elected or law enforcement roles, with most government posts being filled by civilian contractors. All that said, his Mobile Infantry really has a cavalier and terrifying attitude toward the life of its tropes, troops, a willingness to indoctrinate them beyond most modern armies, and a rather sexually repressed, rather joyless feel where the stretches between combat drops have little to no character, to say nothing of how quickly one's superiors could decide you were a lost cause and kick you out of the service, thus ending your dream of winning the franchise and voting rights. The MI also are quite alright with causing horrific civilian casualties to the enemy, such as the "Skinnies," with the initial raid on them specifically mentioning that the MI is not attempting to cause excessive civilian deaths ''this time'' because it's only meant to scare the Skinnies into realizing how dangerous it could get for them if they don't switch sides in the war. Furthermore, while the Federation seems to have united humanity without racial divisiveness and without subsuming individual cultures, gender roles are heavily enforced and things like corporal punishment, flogging, and hanging are still mainstays of criminal justice. Finally, the "species-ism" and submission of the individual in the book, where Johnny keeps talking about fighting for humanity, really only works because it's contrasted against the ant colony-like pseudoarachnids, who (probably) possess no individuality whatsoever.[[/note]]
7th Dec '16 5:54:47 AM chc232323
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** It doesn't look quite as bad in [[Literature/StarshipTroopers the book]]. Maybe. But Heinlein appeared to have the opinion that a government that required you to earn the right to vote or breed might have been a good thing.

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** It doesn't look quite as bad in [[Literature/StarshipTroopers The book]] is a strange case that borders SquarePegRoundTrope. It's a mild form of this trope and isn't (late 2016) currently on the book]]. Maybe. But Heinlein appeared Literature section for this trope. The book is usually exaggerated to have the opinion point of parody by those who haven't read it, like (famously) the film's director. As this is a long discussion, it's in the note. [[note]]Heinlein wrote that a "thing given has no value," so forcing those who wished to execute "the supreme executive power" (IE: vote, but also things like law enforcement) had to pay for it with at least two years of service. This service could be military or not, but it was supposed to be rigorous and unpleasant and possibly dangerous, if only so those who made the choice to pursue government and political power paid dearly for it and would value it. As long as you could make your own legal decisions (IE: 18 years of age, not currently intoxicated, and not suffering mental illness) you could not be turned away. Some thoroughly unpleasant form of Federal service would be found to accommodate any level of disability. You could quit service as well, even right before a combat operation, and the only penalty was that required you would not be allowed to re-enter and try to earn the franchise again. Claims like his world policed breeding are not found in the text (and are only found in the film). Rico's father, who is very wealthy and owns large business interests, is proud his family never had been in the service at the start of the book. Basically, service guarantees only the right to vote and serve in some elected or breed might law enforcement roles, with most government posts being filled by civilian contractors. All that said, his Mobile Infantry really has a cavalier and terrifying attitude toward the life of its tropes, a willingness to indoctrinate them beyond most modern armies, and a rather sexually repressed, rather joyless feel where the stretches between combat drops have been little to no character, to say nothing of how quickly one's superiors could decide you were a good thing.lost cause and kick you out of the service, thus ending your dream of winning the franchise and voting rights. The MI also are quite alright with causing horrific civilian casualties to the enemy, such as the "Skinnies," with the initial raid on them specifically mentioning that the MI is not attempting to cause excessive civilian deaths ''this time'' because it's only meant to scare the Skinnies into realizing how dangerous it could get for them if they don't switch sides in the war. Finally, the "species-ism" and submission of the individual in the book, where Johnny keeps talking about fighting for humanity, really only works because it's contrasted against the ant colony-like pseudoarachnids, who (probably) possess no individuality whatsoever.[[/note]]
31st Oct '16 2:41:38 AM Vir
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While the true federations around it will usually possess simple, unassuming names -- TheFederation, The Republic, etc. -- the People's Republic Of Tyranny will call itself the People's Republic. If they are ''really'' evil and oppressive, they'll call the nation the ''Democratic'' People's Republic. Indeed, the more words [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial implying freedom]] the name of this "republic" sports, the more oppressive and generally ''un''-free it is likely to be.

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While the true federations around it will usually possess simple, unassuming names -- TheFederation, The Republic, etc. -- the People's Republic Of of Tyranny will call itself the People's Republic. If they are ''really'' evil and oppressive, they'll call the nation the ''Democratic'' People's Republic. Indeed, the more words [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial implying freedom]] the name of this "republic" sports, the more oppressive and generally ''un''-free it is likely to be.
30th Oct '16 10:07:34 PM TheresSomethingAboutMary
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* ''Series/{{Angel}}'': Possible AvertedTrope on--the Groosalugg is exiled from Pylea once it becomes (as Gunn described it) "some kind of people's republic". Although this is a reference to what often happens in the sort of failed revolution that often produces people's republics (ie, old revolutionaries are branded traitors for disagreeing with the faction that wins), we never find out what Pylea is now like.

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* ''Series/{{Angel}}'': Possible AvertedTrope on--the AvertedTrope. The Groosalugg is exiled from Pylea once it becomes (as Gunn described it) it), "some kind of people's republic". Although this is a reference to what often happens in the sort of failed revolution that often produces people's republics (ie, old revolutionaries are branded traitors for disagreeing with the faction that wins), we never find out what Pylea is now like.
6th Oct '16 9:33:20 AM Antigone3
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The Free Rasalhague Republic was ruled by a Prince [[ElectiveMonarchy elected by Parliament[[ during its brief existence. After conquest by Clan Ghost Bear the Rasalhague Dominion managed to maintain some of its' democratic features, under the Clan's rule of course. Helped by their first Prince's son getting taken as a Bondsman and fighting his way up to saKhan of Clan Ghost Bear, and then being elected Prince himself.

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The Free Rasalhague Republic was ruled by a Prince [[ElectiveMonarchy elected by Parliament[[ Parliament]] during its brief existence. After conquest by Clan Ghost Bear the Rasalhague Dominion managed to maintain some of its' democratic features, under the Clan's rule of course. Helped by their first Prince's son getting taken as a Bondsman and fighting his way up to saKhan of Clan Ghost Bear, and then being elected Prince himself.
5th Jul '16 8:28:45 AM R1ck
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[[caption-width-right:350:[[note]]For those interested, inside the intersection of the circles lies the People's Republic of Bangladesh, the Democratic Republic of Timor Leste, the Federal Democratic Republic of Nepal, Democratic Republic of São Tomé and Príncipe, and the Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka--and the last one's right on the edge.[[/note]]]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:[[note]]For [[caption-width-right:350:At least there's still a bit of overlap...[[note]]For those interested, inside the intersection of the circles lies the People's Republic of Bangladesh, the Democratic Republic of Timor Leste, the Federal Democratic Republic of Nepal, Democratic Republic of São Tomé and Príncipe, and the Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka--and the last one's right on the edge.[[/note]]]]
5th Jul '16 8:27:45 AM R1ck
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[[caption-width-right:350:Actually, maybe that should look more like an 8. Or maybe not quite.[[note]]For those interested, inside the intersection of the circles lies the People's Republic of Bangladesh, the Democratic Republic of Timor Leste, the Federal Democratic Republic of Nepal, Democratic Republic of São Tomé and Príncipe, and the Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka--and the last one's right on the edge.[[/note]]]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:Actually, maybe that should look more like an 8. Or maybe not quite.[[note]]For [[caption-width-right:350:[[note]]For those interested, inside the intersection of the circles lies the People's Republic of Bangladesh, the Democratic Republic of Timor Leste, the Federal Democratic Republic of Nepal, Democratic Republic of São Tomé and Príncipe, and the Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka--and the last one's right on the edge.[[/note]]]]
16th Jun '16 11:47:27 PM BattleMaster
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** It doesn't look quite as bad in [[Literature/StarshipTroopers the book]]. Maybe.

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** It doesn't look quite as bad in [[Literature/StarshipTroopers the book]]. Maybe. But Heinlein appeared to have the opinion that a government that required you to earn the right to vote or breed might have been a good thing.



But not all are exactly tyrannies. The Federated Suns and the Lyran Commonwealth, for ex, are relatively civilized and mostly law-governed places, the power of the monarch is not absolute in practice, even if it is in theory (they are not figureheads, but neither realm is a despotism, either). The Draconis Combine, OTOH, most certainly ''is'' an iron militarism, with harsh regimentation and all the nasty appurtances of a police state. The Free World League barely holds together, and Capella is somewhere in between the civilized monarchies and Draconia in terms of its freedom and decency rating. Nor were the rulers of the collapsed Star League absolute monarchs, though they were most certainly monarchs. The applicability of the trope varies here.\\\

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But not all are exactly tyrannies. The Federated Suns and the Lyran Commonwealth, for ex, are relatively civilized and mostly law-governed places, the power of the monarch is not absolute in practice, even if it is in theory (they are not figureheads, but neither realm is a despotism, either). The Draconis Combine, OTOH, most certainly ''is'' an iron militarism, with harsh regimentation and all the nasty appurtances of a police state. The Free World League barely holds together, and Capella is somewhere in between the civilized monarchies and Draconia in terms of its freedom and decency rating.rating with some authors portraying it as fairly free and others portraying it as extremely oppressive. Nor were the rulers of the collapsed Star League absolute monarchs, though they were most certainly monarchs. The applicability of the trope varies here.\\\
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