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15th Dec '12 2:25:40 AM SeptimusHeap
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[[quoteright:300:[[Film/TheGodfather http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/PSOC_godfather_6094.jpg]]]]
[[caption-width-right:300:'''Tropes''': CoolChair, SlouchOfVillainy, SharpDressedMan, DamnItFeelsGoodToBeAGangster\\
'''Not Tropes''': A Person Sitting on a Chair]]
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{{Trope}}s are conventions used in storytelling to convey some sort of information to the audience. People Sit On Chairs don't convey any meaning -- they aren't storytelling conventions at all, they're just things that happen normally or incidentally during the storytelling. So if somebody is calling your YKTTW "Chairs", or PSOC, this means they think your idea is about as meaningful as the discovery that various different shows portray [[TitleDrop people sitting on chairs]]: It doesn't matter how commonly it occurs, this is something that never carried any meaning to begin with, making it NotATrope.

The whole point of a chair, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_890820&feature=iv&src_vid=-2vfxnfWGRA&v=c7SjvLceXgU as Facebook so eloquently explains,]] is to give people something to sit on, but this by itself doesn't convey meaning. On the other hand, there '''are''' ways in which chairs can be used for a trope; perhaps we're talking about an [[CoolChair impossibly awesome-looking chair]] (or a more functional SuperWheelchair); maybe it gets used for a ChairReveal, or for the BigBad to express his SlouchOfVillainy. And maybe the chair is [[EmptyChairMemorial conspicuous by its emptiness]]. All these add some sort of meaning to the "chair" in question, which makes them legitimate tropes.

Note that the criticism here isn't simply that the trope in question is "too common" or "too broad", as Administrivia/NoTropeIsTooCommon. There are some extremely common {{cliche}}s, and OmnipresentTropes, that appear in fiction maybe even as frequently as chairs, but these are still storytelling devices. For instance there is TheCouch, another item people sit on, but given a purpose that correlates with [[StandardizedSitcomHousing the visual layout of house floorplans]].

Conversely, a trope suggestion can still be guilty of People Sit On Chairs even if it doesn't literally appear all the time. Even if it is relatively rare, it can still be used without a narrative purpose.

If you are really, really, ''really'' sure that we need this one, try to connect it to something meaningful. If not, you just need to accept that [[TropesThatWillNeverHappen this trope page will never happen.]]

If you're really not sure whether or not your YKTTW is People Sitting On Chairs, try asking "Administrivia/IsThisTropable"

See also {{Consistency}} for the other aspect of defining a trope.

No examples, please. No, really, they're not necessary.

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[[quoteright:300:[[Film/TheGodfather http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/PSOC_godfather_6094.jpg]]]]
[[caption-width-right:300:'''Tropes''': CoolChair, SlouchOfVillainy, SharpDressedMan, DamnItFeelsGoodToBeAGangster\\
'''Not Tropes''': A Person Sitting on a Chair]]
%% Image Pickin' conversation: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=s1y5yzte8kpngpjpphiv6p9k

{{Trope}}s are conventions used in storytelling to convey some sort of information to the audience. People Sit On Chairs don't convey any meaning -- they aren't storytelling conventions at all, they're just things that happen normally or incidentally during the storytelling. So if somebody is calling your YKTTW "Chairs", or PSOC, this means they think your idea is about as meaningful as the discovery that various different shows portray [[TitleDrop people sitting on chairs]]: It doesn't matter how commonly it occurs, this is something that never carried any meaning to begin with, making it NotATrope.

The whole point of a chair, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_890820&feature=iv&src_vid=-2vfxnfWGRA&v=c7SjvLceXgU as Facebook so eloquently explains,]] is to give people something to sit on, but this by itself doesn't convey meaning. On the other hand, there '''are''' ways in which chairs can be used for a trope; perhaps we're talking about an [[CoolChair impossibly awesome-looking chair]] (or a more functional SuperWheelchair); maybe it gets used for a ChairReveal, or for the BigBad to express his SlouchOfVillainy. And maybe the chair is [[EmptyChairMemorial conspicuous by its emptiness]]. All these add some sort of meaning to the "chair" in question, which makes them legitimate tropes.

Note that the criticism here isn't simply that the trope in question is "too common" or "too broad", as Administrivia/NoTropeIsTooCommon. There are some extremely common {{cliche}}s, and OmnipresentTropes, that appear in fiction maybe even as frequently as chairs, but these are still storytelling devices. For instance there is TheCouch, another item people sit on, but given a purpose that correlates with [[StandardizedSitcomHousing the visual layout of house floorplans]].

Conversely, a trope suggestion can still be guilty of People Sit On Chairs even if it doesn't literally appear all the time. Even if it is relatively rare, it can still be used without a narrative purpose.

If you are really, really, ''really'' sure that we need this one, try to connect it to something meaningful. If not, you just need to accept that [[TropesThatWillNeverHappen this trope page will never happen.]]

If you're really not sure whether or not your YKTTW is People Sitting On Chairs, try asking "Administrivia/IsThisTropable"

See also {{Consistency}} for the other aspect of defining a trope.

No examples, please. No, really, they're not necessary.

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%%Do not add "Contrast with Chairs Sit On People" or its new name Too Rare To Trope. 'Contrast' is used when the two items mentioned are opposites. Chairs Sit On People is not the opposite trope to People Sit On Chairs, even though the names were opposite.
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1st Dec '12 6:40:14 AM SeptimusHeap
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If you're really not sure whether or not your YKTTW is People Sitting On Chairs, try asking "IsThisTropable"

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If you're really not sure whether or not your YKTTW is People Sitting On Chairs, try asking "IsThisTropable"
"Administrivia/IsThisTropable"
23rd Nov '12 9:17:13 AM TropeEater
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'''Not Tropes''': People Sit On Chairs]]

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'''Not Tropes''': People Sit On Chairs]]A Person Sitting on a Chair]]
30th Oct '12 3:19:46 PM acrobox
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The whole point of a chair, after all, is to give people something to sit on, but this by itself doesn't convey meaning. On the other hand, there '''are''' ways in which chairs can be used for a trope; perhaps we're talking about an [[CoolChair impossibly awesome-looking chair]] (or a more functional SuperWheelchair); maybe it gets used for a ChairReveal, or for the BigBad to express his SlouchOfVillainy. And maybe the chair is [[EmptyChairMemorial conspicuous by its emptiness]]. All these add some sort of meaning to the "chair" in question, which makes them legitimate tropes.

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The whole point of a chair, after all, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_890820&feature=iv&src_vid=-2vfxnfWGRA&v=c7SjvLceXgU as Facebook so eloquently explains,]] is to give people something to sit on, but this by itself doesn't convey meaning. On the other hand, there '''are''' ways in which chairs can be used for a trope; perhaps we're talking about an [[CoolChair impossibly awesome-looking chair]] (or a more functional SuperWheelchair); maybe it gets used for a ChairReveal, or for the BigBad to express his SlouchOfVillainy. And maybe the chair is [[EmptyChairMemorial conspicuous by its emptiness]]. All these add some sort of meaning to the "chair" in question, which makes them legitimate tropes.
25th Jun '12 5:42:26 PM MathWizardBoy
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17th Jun '12 7:33:41 PM johnnyfog
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->'''Mouse''': ...what does ''that'' mean? \\
'''Switch''': It doesn't mean anything.
-->--'''''Film/TheMatrix'''''
29th May '12 2:19:38 PM SeptimusHeap
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{{Trope}}s are conventions used in storytelling to convey some sort of information to the audience. People Sit On Chairs don't convey any meaning -- they aren't storytelling conventions at all, they're just things that happen normally or incidentally during the storytelling. So if somebody is calling your YKTTW "Chairs", or PSOC, this means they think your idea is about as meaningful as the discovery that various different shows portray [[TitleDrop people sitting on chairs]]: It doesn't matter how commonly it occurs, this is something that never carried any meaning to begin with, making it Not A Trope.

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{{Trope}}s are conventions used in storytelling to convey some sort of information to the audience. People Sit On Chairs don't convey any meaning -- they aren't storytelling conventions at all, they're just things that happen normally or incidentally during the storytelling. So if somebody is calling your YKTTW "Chairs", or PSOC, this means they think your idea is about as meaningful as the discovery that various different shows portray [[TitleDrop people sitting on chairs]]: It doesn't matter how commonly it occurs, this is something that never carried any meaning to begin with, making it Not A Trope.
NotATrope.
25th May '12 2:22:39 PM IlGreven
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The whole point of a chair, after all, is to give people something to sit on, but this by itself doesn't convey meaning. On the other hand, there '''are''' ways in which chairs can be used for a trope; perhaps we're talking about an [[CoolChair impossibly awesome-looking chair]] (or a more functional SuperWheelchair); maybe it gets used for a ChairReveal, or for the BigBad to express his SlouchOfVillainy. All these add some sort of meaning to the "chair" in question, which makes them legitimate tropes.

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The whole point of a chair, after all, is to give people something to sit on, but this by itself doesn't convey meaning. On the other hand, there '''are''' ways in which chairs can be used for a trope; perhaps we're talking about an [[CoolChair impossibly awesome-looking chair]] (or a more functional SuperWheelchair); maybe it gets used for a ChairReveal, or for the BigBad to express his SlouchOfVillainy. And maybe the chair is [[EmptyChairMemorial conspicuous by its emptiness]]. All these add some sort of meaning to the "chair" in question, which makes them legitimate tropes.
31st Mar '12 8:18:23 PM troacctid
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When a suggestion for a trope is not something that just happens for no proper reason, it does not make a valid trope.
31st Mar '12 4:46:24 PM DragonQuestZ
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A PredefinedMessage used primarily in discussion suggesting that a proposed trope, well, actually isn't a trope at all.

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A PredefinedMessage used primarily in discussion suggesting that When a proposed trope, well, actually isn't suggestion for a trope at all.
is not something that just happens for no proper reason, it does not make a valid trope.



Note that the criticism here isn't simply that the trope in question is "too common" or "too broad." There are some extremely common {{cliche}}s, and OmnipresentTropes, that appear in fiction maybe even as frequently as chairs, but these are still storytelling devices. For instance there is TheCouch, another item people sit on, but given a purpose that correlates with [[StandardizedSitcomHousing the visual layout of house floorplans]].

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Note that the criticism here isn't simply that the trope in question is "too common" or "too broad." broad", as Administrivia/NoTropeIsTooCommon. There are some extremely common {{cliche}}s, and OmnipresentTropes, that appear in fiction maybe even as frequently as chairs, but these are still storytelling devices. For instance there is TheCouch, another item people sit on, but given a purpose that correlates with [[StandardizedSitcomHousing the visual layout of house floorplans]].
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