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21st Sep '16 6:18:50 PM calamity2007
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* ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiStrangeJourney'': From the character standpoint, the Neutral path is the hardest one - you turn your back on both the angels ''and'' the demons, siding with humanity alone. This means that you have to fight for all four Cosmic Eggs (whereas Law or Chaos means at least one will fall into your hands without resistance), as well as kill both [[spoiler:Jiminez and Zelenin]]. However, this is the only path [[spoiler:where humanity does not suffer the control of outside powers and is free to choose its own destiny]]. From the ''player's'' standpoint, on the other hand, the Law path feels this way, since you must fight [[spoiler:both Gore and Mem Aleph]], two of the hardest bosses in the game.



* ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'': The Neutral Ending is the hardest to get. First of all, you have to make sure that your alignment points don't lean too much towards Law or Chaos (or too Neutral, because [[GuideDangIt the final choice before your ending is locked in is worth a huge chunk]]). Then, not only do you have to fight ''both'' the Law and Chaos final bosses, but you have to complete every challenge quest in Tokyo, unlike the other routes. However, the neutral ending is the most optimistic, and one of the rosiest of the mainline games. [[spoiler: Isabeau doesn't die in this ending (unlike the other routes where she tries to stop you), the people of Mikado are safely and peacefully relocated to Tokyo, and neither of the two populations are at threat of being razed by the alignment heads, and the firmament covering Tokyo is finally lifted.]]

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* Typically in the ShinMegamiTensei games the Neutral or "True" route is the hardest to obtain, due to the route's nature of being OmnicidalNeutral and/or TakeTheThirdOption.
** ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiNocturne'': There is the True Demon route. Not only does it require you to essentially fight all three of the faction leaders and the final boss but it also requires you to fully explore the BrutalBonusLevel, which is full of very challenging puzzles and bosses is addition to a TrueFinalBoss battle against [[spoiler: Lucifer himself]]. If you do complete it however [[spoiler: Lucifer is so impressed with you that he decides to make you his top general in his war against YHVH]].
** ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiStrangeJourney'': From the character standpoint, the Neutral path is the hardest one - you turn your back on both the angels ''and'' the demons, siding with humanity alone. This means that you have to fight for all four Cosmic Eggs (whereas Law or Chaos means at least one will fall into your hands without resistance), as well as kill both [[spoiler:Jiminez and Zelenin]]. However, this is the only path [[spoiler:where humanity does not suffer the control of outside powers and is free to choose its own destiny]]. From the ''player's'' standpoint, on the other hand, the Law path feels this way, since you must fight [[spoiler:both Gore and Mem Aleph]], two of the hardest bosses in the game.
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''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'': The Neutral Ending is the hardest to get. First of all, you have to make sure that your alignment points don't lean too much towards Law or Chaos (or too Neutral, because [[GuideDangIt the final choice before your ending is locked in is worth a huge chunk]]). Then, not only do you have to fight ''both'' the Law and Chaos final bosses, but you have to complete every challenge quest in Tokyo, unlike the other routes. However, the neutral ending is the most optimistic, and one of the rosiest of the mainline games. [[spoiler: Isabeau doesn't die in this ending (unlike the other routes where she tries to stop you), the people of Mikado are safely and peacefully relocated to Tokyo, and neither of the two populations are at threat of being razed by the alignment heads, and the firmament covering Tokyo is finally lifted.]]]]
** ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'': The Massacre route. It starts with a massive [[DifficultySpike spike in difficulty]] on top of potentially losing all your items which ends up making the route on of the hardest to complete.
* ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' is an interesting example. Which while the path to the Pacifist ending in the most consistently difficult, since you have to stay at lvl 1 throughout the whole playthrough and have to spare every encounter you meet, which can often go into PuzzleBoss territory, it is also a route that ends with a ZeroEffortBoss. In contrast, the Genocide ending, while you will be quickly killing everything left and right due to your high level, has a couple of [[ThatOneBoss extremely difficult bosses]] in it that almost requires one to be experienced in BulletHell games to complete.
4th Aug '16 7:46:10 PM BigKlingy
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* ''VideoGame/KingsQuestVI'' has two branching paths, the short path and the longer one. The longer path, which requires solving more puzzles and ''much'' more danger, leads to the game's GoldenEnding. Whereas the short path ends in EasyModeMockery:
--> '''Cassima:''' Oh, Alexander, I'm so happy that you've finally rescued me.
--> '''Alexander:''' Yes, my love.
--> '''Cassima:''' It's just too bad that you never avenged my murdered parents, or found the stolen treasures of the Green Isles, or uncovered the secrets of the Isle of Mist...
--> '''Alexander:''' Ah, yes, well, um...
--> '''Cassima:''' ...or ended the feud among the island rulers, or captured Alhazred's genie, or mastered the lost magic of the realm, or defeated the ruler of the Underworld...
4th May '16 7:22:18 AM Piando
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* In ''{{DragonBallZ}} Gokuu Gekitouden, the only way to get the "true" ending (the one where Goku goes Super Saiyan and finishes Frieza in a secret ultimate optional final boss fight instead of the game ending when Goku drops the Spirit Bomb on Frieza) is to have everyone at around the power levels they were in the anime when you fight Frieza. This means fighting Frieza, at least up until Goku shows up, is EXTREMELY painful.

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* In ''{{DragonBallZ}} ''Anime/DragonBallZ Gokuu Gekitouden, the only way to get the "true" ending (the one where Goku goes Super Saiyan and finishes Frieza in a secret ultimate optional final boss fight instead of the game ending when Goku drops the Spirit Bomb on Frieza) is to have everyone at around the power levels they were in the anime when you fight Frieza. This means fighting Frieza, at least up until Goku shows up, is EXTREMELY painful.
26th Feb '16 1:47:29 PM Jgamer
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* ''VideoGame/ShineMegamiTenseiIV'': The Neutral Ending is the hardest to get. First of all, you have to make sure that your alignment points don't lean too much towards Law or Chaos (or too Neutral, because [[GuideDangIt the final choice before your ending is locked in is worth a huge chunk]]). Then, not only do you have to fight ''both'' the Law and Chaos final bosses, but you have to complete every challenge quest in Tokyo, unlike the other routes. However, the neutral ending is the most optimistic, and one of the rosiest of the mainline games. [[spoiler: Isabeau doesn't die in this ending (unlike the other routes where she tries to stop you), the people of Mikado are safely and peacefully relocated to Tokyo, and neither of the two populations are at threat of being razed by the alignment heads, and the firmament covering Tokyo is finally lifted.]]

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* ''VideoGame/ShineMegamiTenseiIV'': ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'': The Neutral Ending is the hardest to get. First of all, you have to make sure that your alignment points don't lean too much towards Law or Chaos (or too Neutral, because [[GuideDangIt the final choice before your ending is locked in is worth a huge chunk]]). Then, not only do you have to fight ''both'' the Law and Chaos final bosses, but you have to complete every challenge quest in Tokyo, unlike the other routes. However, the neutral ending is the most optimistic, and one of the rosiest of the mainline games. [[spoiler: Isabeau doesn't die in this ending (unlike the other routes where she tries to stop you), the people of Mikado are safely and peacefully relocated to Tokyo, and neither of the two populations are at threat of being razed by the alignment heads, and the firmament covering Tokyo is finally lifted.]]
23rd Feb '16 9:49:58 AM Jgamer
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* ''VideoGame/ShineMegamiTenseiIV'': The Neutral Ending is the hardest to get. First of all, you have to make sure that your alignment points don't lean too much towards Law or Chaos (or too Neutral, because [[GuideDangIt the final choice before your ending is locked in is worth a huge chunk]]). Then, not only do you have to fight ''both'' the Law and Chaos final bosses, but you have to complete every challenge quest in Tokyo, unlike the other routes. However, the neutral ending is the most optimistic, and one of the rosiest of the mainline games. [[spoiler: Isabeau doesn't die in this ending (unlike the other routes where she tries to stop you), the people of Mikado are safely and peacefully relocated to Tokyo, and neither of the two populations are at threat of being razed by the alignment heads, and the firmament covering Tokyo is finally lifted.]]
6th Nov '15 7:09:47 AM MrUnderhill
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** One example in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' has you deciding between which of two mercenary groups to side with to take the other one down. You could, however, opt to fight both of them, and though Chrom clearly thinks you're ridiculous for deciding so, this way allows access to all 4 villages and all the experience of killing every enemy.

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** One example in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' has you deciding between which of two mercenary groups to side with to take the other one down. You could, however, opt to fight both of them, and though Chrom clearly thinks you're ridiculous for deciding so, is [[WhatTheHellHero understandably concerned]] if you decide to do so (since on top of all this you have a terrain disadvantage), this way allows access to all 4 villages and all the experience of killing every enemy.
10th Sep '15 1:37:34 AM ShorinBJ
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** This is a common element all throughout the Pokemon world. Most routes will have a number of trainers (or patches of grass) to avoid, and only a handful you have to pas through, but battling trainers and pokemon is good EXP. In addition, patches of grass might lead to useful items, while battling trainers might introduce a shorter route for backtracking later on in the game, and also give money.

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** This is a common element all throughout the Pokemon world. Most routes will have a number of trainers (or patches of grass) to avoid, and only a handful you have to pas through, must be fought, but battling trainers and pokemon is good EXP. In addition, patches of grass might lead to useful items, while battling trainers might introduce a shorter route for backtracking later on in the game, and also give money.
20th Aug '15 3:52:29 PM Gitaxias
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* In Videogame/{{Gemcraft}}, most of the strategy is based around deciding how much to make your own life harder in the name of more experience. One can do such things as playing on harder settings, summoning waves early while they are still dealing with others, and even spend their own gem bombs on summoning more monsters to fight. If you don't do this enough, it can be much harder to finish harder fights with a lower character level.
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9th Aug '15 1:10:39 PM Prfnoff
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* One mission of ''AceCombat5'' has your squadron escorting a small convoy on the ground that has to reach an air base at a certain time. They come to several forks and each time you have to decide whether to take the short way or the long way. Always going the long way makes you fail the mission by being late, but the short way always has more enemies. Nothing a [[BigBulkyBomb big bomb or two]] can't sort out, though.
** ''AceCombatJointAssault'' plays with this. One mission has you flying an unarmed 747 through a ravine, which splits up at one point. The longer, apparently safe route has proximity-triggered mines and flak guns. The shorter path, on the other hand, has you dealing with missiles. In a 747 in a ravine. This fact cannot be emphasised enough. Either way, you're still taking poison.

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* One mission of ''AceCombat5'' ''VideoGame/AceCombat5TheUnsungWar'' has your squadron escorting a small convoy on the ground that has to reach an air base at a certain time. They come to several forks and each time you have to decide whether to take the short way or the long way. Always going the long way makes you fail the mission by being late, but the short way always has more enemies. Nothing a [[BigBulkyBomb big bomb or two]] can't sort out, though.
** ''AceCombatJointAssault'' ''VideoGame/AceCombatJointAssault'' plays with this. One mission has you flying an unarmed 747 through a ravine, which splits up at one point. The longer, apparently safe route has proximity-triggered mines and flak guns. The shorter path, on the other hand, has you dealing with missiles. In a 747 in a ravine. This fact cannot be emphasised enough. Either way, you're still taking poison.
1st Mar '15 8:58:40 AM TheGameMaster
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* Happens in ''Franchise/FireEmblem''. Many players will, when presented with a level objective that isn't to route the enemy, decide to kill them all anyway. This means killing every enemy before engaging the boss, or capturing the base, or even treating survival chapters as time limits to how fast they need to kill every unit. This is harder, but it gives you greater experience, which will eventually make the rest of the game easier.
** One example in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' has you deciding between which of two mercenary groups to side with to take the other one down. You could, however, opt to fight both of them, and though Chrom clearly thinks you're ridiculous for deciding so, this way allows access to all 4 villages and all the experience of killing every enemy.
* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' has the final dungeon, where the party splits up at one point when you reach a fork in the road. You have to decide which party goes where, though after you do so there is nothing stopping you from backtracking and checking both paths out.
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