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26th May '17 6:07:47 PM jamespolk
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"Passing", in sociology, is the state of living one's life as a member of another sociological group be it ethnic, racial, gender, class, or sexual. It's a complicated matter in real life, what with humans so rarely fitting perfectly into the ever-shifting categories we make up for them. Indeed, there are times when we categorise individuals in ways that they themselves do not acknowledge, or that are based upon merely tangential connections. For example, ''why'' does an "octoroon" (7/8 "white"/European, 1/8 "black"/non-European) in a U.S. Reconstruction-era novel have to identify as 'black' in order to be "true to herself?" It reflects many racial ideas still present, if less explicit these days, in 'Western' society [[labelnote:*]]Europe and its offshoots, such as Canada and Brazil[[/labelnote]]. Most notable in the Anglosphere is the USA, which has a troubled history of race relations only surpassed by that of South Africa on account of its history of ethnic-African slave-use, not to mention the terming of indigenous tribes as "savages" in the Declaration of Independence, the Indian Removal Act, and the subsequent Trail of Tears. The USA's pre-Civil Rights Movement [[labelnote:*]]wherein the U.S.A.'s ethnic non-European population was recognised as having equal rights to that of its ethnic European populace[[/labelnote]] "One-Drop Rule" stated that 'one drop' of non-European blood made a person non-white and thus deprived them of the rights of a full citizen.

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"Passing", in sociology, is the state of living one's life as a member of another sociological group be it ethnic, racial, gender, class, or sexual. It's a complicated matter in real life, what with humans so rarely fitting perfectly into the ever-shifting categories we make up for them. Indeed, there are times when we categorise individuals in ways that they themselves do not acknowledge, or that are based upon merely tangential connections. For example, ''why'' does an "octoroon" (7/8 "white"/European, 1/8 "black"/non-European) in a U.S. Reconstruction-era novel have to identify as 'black' in order to be "true to herself?" themselves?" It reflects many racial ideas still present, if less explicit these days, in 'Western' society [[labelnote:*]]Europe and its offshoots, such as Canada and Brazil[[/labelnote]]. Most notable in the Anglosphere is the USA, which has a troubled history of race relations only surpassed by that of South Africa on account of its history of ethnic-African slave-use, not to mention the terming of indigenous tribes as "savages" in the Declaration of Independence, the Indian Removal Act, and the subsequent Trail of Tears. The USA's pre-Civil Rights Movement [[labelnote:*]]wherein the U.S.A.'s ethnic non-European population was recognised as having equal rights to that of its ethnic European populace[[/labelnote]] "One-Drop Rule" stated that 'one drop' of non-European blood made a person non-white and thus deprived them of the rights of a full citizen.
21st May '17 11:45:55 AM FurryKef
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** Frederick Douglas says in his autobiography that his master was his father but could not find any documents telling about his mother's bloodline, meaning that he was possibly even more than 50% white.

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** Frederick Douglas Douglass says in his autobiography that his master was his father but could not find any documents telling about his mother's bloodline, meaning that he was possibly even more than 50% white.
21st Apr '17 2:10:57 AM AreYouTyler
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* Subverted in real life by Homer Adolph Plessy, who as an octoroon, was able to pass easily as a white man, when buying a "white" ticket on a segregated train. When he was asked for his ticket, he outed himself as a black man in order to challenge segregation, which led to his arrest and eventually, the infamous "separate, but equal" ruling of Plessy v Ferguson.



** Homer Adolph Plessy of Plessy v Ferguson fame was 12.5% black and 87.5% white. In fact the reason he was involved in the case in the first place was not to allow blacks to be in whatever rail cars they wanted, but rather to show that that a racially based system was stupid since things are not so simple when it comes to race. The US-SC didn't see it that way. In fact, in a case of NiceJobBreakingItHero, many Southern states began adopting "one-drop rule" as the law governing race because this case showed that defining race based on ancestry and "blood quantums" led to ambiguous cases, as per Mr. Plessy. (Because of the difference in laws, Mr. Plessy would have been considered white in some states but black in others, including his home state of Louisiana.)

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** Homer Adolph Plessy of Plessy v Ferguson fame was 12.5% black and 87.5% white. In fact the reason he was involved in the case in the first place was not to allow blacks to be in whatever rail cars they wanted, but rather to show that that a racially based system was stupid since things are not so simple when it comes to race. The US-SC didn't see it that way. In fact, in a case of NiceJobBreakingItHero, many Southern states began adopting "one-drop rule" as the law governing race because this case showed that defining race based on ancestry and "blood quantums" led to ambiguous cases, as per Mr. Plessy. (Because of the difference in laws, Mr. Plessy would have been considered white in some states but black in others, including his home state of Louisiana.)
8th Apr '17 12:21:07 PM CaptainYesterday
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* ''Slow Burn''; a white DA has been braiding her hair and passing for mixed in order to foster support in her African-American constituency.

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* ''Slow Burn''; Burn'': a white DA has been braiding her hair and passing for mixed in order to foster support in her African-American constituency.


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* ''Ann Carver's Profession'': A film from 1933, nominally about the age-old struggle for a woman to [[CareerVersusMan have it all]]. Here, the title character is an attorney, and the film is naturally wound up in her many sensational trials, including a suit for breach of promise over a broken engagement. Carver's argument? How could anyone, even a sophisticated, wealthy playboy be expected to know that the woman he thought he loved was passing for white? This gambit succeeds only after our intrepid attorney parades a group of women in front of the jury, all but one of whom are white, and demands that the plaintiff's attorney pick out which one is passing. If he can't do it, then there's no way the jury can blame her client for not being able to do the same, and no way he should be expected to keep his promise of marriage to a woman of color.
* ''Pinky'': A 1949 MGM film centering on a young woman from Alabama who began passing for white when she went away to nursing school in the North. She returns home engaged to a white man who doesn't know the truth, and, thus, much drama ensues.
30th Mar '17 11:53:24 AM Divra
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* In the Literature/{{Worldwar}} series by Creator/HarryTurtledove, Mordechai Aneliwicz is a Polish Jew fighing in the resistance. While traveling in the countryside, he encounters a farmhouse, and attempts to pass as a Polish partisan (A Catholic Pole). He manages to eat the ham they're serving without hesitation, but is caught out when he crosses himself wrong. Fortunately for him, they aren't upset about it.

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* In the Literature/{{Worldwar}} series by Creator/HarryTurtledove, Mordechai Aneliwicz Ancielewicz is a Polish Jew fighing in the resistance. While traveling in the countryside, he encounters a farmhouse, and attempts to pass as a (Catholic) Polish partisan (A Catholic Pole). partisan. He manages to eat the ham they're serving without hesitation, but is caught out when he crosses himself wrong.wrong and doesn't put butter on his potatoes. Fortunately for him, they aren't upset about it.
1st Mar '17 7:34:49 PM nombretomado
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* The "One-Drop Rule" gets blackmailer Monte Field killed in ''The Roman Hat Mystery'' by ElleryQueen. [[spoiler:One of Field's victims was white to any standard of appearance, but had a distant ancestor who was a slave. Said victim was engaged to a lady whose family would have immediately have banned the wedding and destroyed the man's career if the One-Drop had been revealed.]]

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* The "One-Drop Rule" gets blackmailer Monte Field killed in ''The Roman Hat Mystery'' by ElleryQueen.Creator/ElleryQueen. [[spoiler:One of Field's victims was white to any standard of appearance, but had a distant ancestor who was a slave. Said victim was engaged to a lady whose family would have immediately have banned the wedding and destroyed the man's career if the One-Drop had been revealed.]]
30th Dec '16 2:02:30 PM wuggles
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** This reflects a strange notion of what a "Hispanic" is that is peculiar to United States. Many "Hispanics" are in fact also of Italian heritage (as many Spanish-speaking countries received numerous Italian immigrants. Many Italians themselves are of Spanish descent (e.g. Armando Diaz, the World War I era Italian war hero and Marshal of Italy) and many Spaniards are of Italian descent as the Spanish Kingdom of Aragon ruled much of Southern Italy in the past and the King of Spain retains the title King of Naples, in honor of this history to this day.



* For a country that is so obsessed with race, Americans are really bad at being a proper racist.
** Maybe that's a sign.
** In the past, American with low fractions of African blood would sometimes appear white to the average person.
*** So white people adopted the habit of being rude to anyone who associated with obviously black people. They could be 100% white, but why risk it.
*** People with low African blood fractions would sometimes just leave town and go to a new town where nobody knew about them. In these new towns they would be treated as white since nobody "knew better" and the person never spoke about their heritage or contacted their old family.
** There is a story about a mixed black/white girl. She attended a mostly white school where she wore "white" clothing and talked in a "white" manner and she was treated as white. But when she attended her dance class she dressed "black" and talked in a "black" manner and was treated as black.



** Malcom X = 25% white, 75% black

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** Malcom Malcolm X = 25% white, 75% black


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* The documentary ''Little White Lie'' is about Lacey Schwartz, an American filmmaker who believed her whole life she was white, only to find out that she was the result of an affair between her white Jewish mother and an African-American man. A zig-zagged version of this trope, since most people she interacted with knew she wasn't fully white (at her bat mitzvah, the rabbi expressed excitement at having an Ethiopian Jew at their synagogue), however, she was unaware or in denial of that fact until her late teens. Her parents explained her dark complexion as being the result of distant Sicilian ancestry.
17th Nov '16 2:40:00 PM thisissostupid
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* Creator/AlexanderPushkin, who was occasionally compared to Dumas (when he wasn't being compared to Shakespeare) was also a quadroon,: his great-grandfather, Abram Petrovich Gannibal, was an Ethiopian prince from present-day Eritrea, a former slave adopted as a godson by Peter the Great. Pushkin's unfinished historical novel "Peter the Great's Negro" was loosely based upon his life.
25th Oct '16 3:13:20 PM DerJermeister
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"Passing", in sociology, is the state of living one's life as a member of another sociological group be it ethnic, racial, gender, class, or sexual. It's a complicated matter in real life, what with humans so rarely fitting perfectly into the ever-shifting categories we make up for them. Indeed, there are times when we categorise individuals in ways that they themselves do not acknowledge, or that are based upon merely tangential connections. For example, ''why'' does an "octoroon" (7/8 "white"/European, 1/8 "black"/non-European) in a U.S. Reconstruction-era novel have to identify as 'black' in order to be "true to herself?" It reflects many racial ideas still present, if less explicit these days, in 'Western' society [[labelnote:*]]Europe and its offshoots, such as Canada and Brazil[[/labelnote]]. Most notable in the Anglosphere is the USA, which has a troubled history of race relations only surpassed by that of South Africa on account of its history of ethnic-African slave-use, not to mention the terming of indigenous tribes as "savages" in the Declaration of Independence. The USA's pre-Civil Rights Movement [[labelnote:*]]wherein the U.S.A.'s ethnic non-European population was recognised as having equal rights to that of its ethnic European populace[[/labelnote]] "One-Drop Rule" stated that 'one drop' of non-European blood made a person non-white and thus deprived them of the rights of a full citizen.

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"Passing", in sociology, is the state of living one's life as a member of another sociological group be it ethnic, racial, gender, class, or sexual. It's a complicated matter in real life, what with humans so rarely fitting perfectly into the ever-shifting categories we make up for them. Indeed, there are times when we categorise individuals in ways that they themselves do not acknowledge, or that are based upon merely tangential connections. For example, ''why'' does an "octoroon" (7/8 "white"/European, 1/8 "black"/non-European) in a U.S. Reconstruction-era novel have to identify as 'black' in order to be "true to herself?" It reflects many racial ideas still present, if less explicit these days, in 'Western' society [[labelnote:*]]Europe and its offshoots, such as Canada and Brazil[[/labelnote]]. Most notable in the Anglosphere is the USA, which has a troubled history of race relations only surpassed by that of South Africa on account of its history of ethnic-African slave-use, not to mention the terming of indigenous tribes as "savages" in the Declaration of Independence.Independence, the Indian Removal Act, and the subsequent Trail of Tears. The USA's pre-Civil Rights Movement [[labelnote:*]]wherein the U.S.A.'s ethnic non-European population was recognised as having equal rights to that of its ethnic European populace[[/labelnote]] "One-Drop Rule" stated that 'one drop' of non-European blood made a person non-white and thus deprived them of the rights of a full citizen.
24th Oct '16 1:18:00 PM DerJermeister
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"Passing", in sociology, is the state of living one's life as a member of another sociological group be it ethnic, racial, gender, class, or sexual. It's a complicated matter in real life, what with humans so rarely fitting perfectly into the ever-shifting categories we make up for them. Indeed, there are times when we categorise individuals in ways that they themselves do not acknowledge, or that are based upon merely tangential connections. For example, ''why'' does an "octoroon" (7/8 "white"/European, 1/8 "black"/non-European) in a U.S. Reconstruction-era novel have to identify as 'black' in order to be "true to herself?" It reflects many racial ideas still present, if less explicit these days, in 'Western' society [[labelnote:*]]Europe and its offshoots, such as Canada and Brazil[[/labelnote]]. Most notable in the Anglosphere is the USA, which has a troubled history of race relations only surpassed by that of South Africa on account of its history of ethnic-African slave-use. The USA's pre-Civil Rights Movement [[labelnote:*]]wherein the U.S.A.'s ethnic non-European population was recognised as having equal rights to that of its ethnic European populace[[/labelnote]] "One-Drop Rule" stated that 'one drop' of non-European blood made a person non-white and thus deprived them of the rights of a full citizen.

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"Passing", in sociology, is the state of living one's life as a member of another sociological group be it ethnic, racial, gender, class, or sexual. It's a complicated matter in real life, what with humans so rarely fitting perfectly into the ever-shifting categories we make up for them. Indeed, there are times when we categorise individuals in ways that they themselves do not acknowledge, or that are based upon merely tangential connections. For example, ''why'' does an "octoroon" (7/8 "white"/European, 1/8 "black"/non-European) in a U.S. Reconstruction-era novel have to identify as 'black' in order to be "true to herself?" It reflects many racial ideas still present, if less explicit these days, in 'Western' society [[labelnote:*]]Europe and its offshoots, such as Canada and Brazil[[/labelnote]]. Most notable in the Anglosphere is the USA, which has a troubled history of race relations only surpassed by that of South Africa on account of its history of ethnic-African slave-use.slave-use, not to mention the terming of indigenous tribes as "savages" in the Declaration of Independence. The USA's pre-Civil Rights Movement [[labelnote:*]]wherein the U.S.A.'s ethnic non-European population was recognised as having equal rights to that of its ethnic European populace[[/labelnote]] "One-Drop Rule" stated that 'one drop' of non-European blood made a person non-white and thus deprived them of the rights of a full citizen.
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