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15th Apr '16 9:44:54 PM sayaleviathan
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* ''Film/AntMan''
** The aging Hank Pym had a strained relationship with his daughter, Hope, for not telling her the details of her mother's death. Because of this, Hope defected to Darren Cross when he took over Pym Industries until she found out Cross is not a nice man. Despite returning to her father, she's still angry at him particularly for choosing a con-man, Scott Lang, to take the Ant-Man mantle instead of her. But it turns out that Hank is just trying to protect her because he doesn't want her to end like her mother [[spoiler:who made a HeroicSacrifice during their mission]]. In the end, they made up and Hank decided to let Hope inherit Comicbook/TheWasp mantle from her mother.
** Scott Lang is an ex-con struggling to find work so he can help in taking care of his daughter, Cassie. Though Cassie loved him, his ex-wife thought that Scott is a very irresponsible parent.


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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' has several noble parents who only see their children as pawns for political alliances and never bother their wellbeing. But there are a few who really love their children; it's just that they live in a CrapsackWorld where they need to make alliances:
** Catelyn Stark has to leave Winterfell to find those responsible for the crippling and attempted assassination on her younger son, Bran. She stayed with Robb, when the War of the Five Kings broke out to help him rescue Sansa and Arya, leaving Bran and Rickon in Winterfell which is later invaded by the Ironborn and sacked by Ramsey Snow. While Catelyn loves her children, her desire to protect and save made dire consequences which resulted to the downfall of her family.
** Doran Martell is not much of a good parent as his brother, Oberyn. He even send his eldest son, Quentyn, to a rival house due to Oberyn's mishap with its lord, causing his wife to leave him. His daughter, Arianne, noted that he doesn't mind that she lost her virginity at a young age and arranges marriages to very old people which made her think that he's going to pass her inheritance to Quentyn and all the important duties at Sunspear are done by Oberyn rather than her despite being the heir. But it turns out that Doran really cared about his family except that [[spoiler:he's too caught up in wanting to avenge the brutal deaths of his sister, niece and nephew and paranoid in not telling his plans to Arianne and his brother's bastard daughters. It takes Arianne's failed coup to realize his weakness]].
** Lysa Arryn loves her sickly son, Robin, to the point of being MyBelovedSmother due to suffering several miscarriages in the past. When she heard that her husband planned to take Robin away, [[spoiler:she poisoned him with the help from her childhood friend and crush, Petyr "Littlefinger" Baelish. Except that Littlefinger is only manipulating her to further his plans sow distrust between the Starks and the Lannisters and admits to Lysa that he loved Catelyn before killing her. As of ''A Feast Of Crows'', poor Robin is under Littlefinger's care who is using him to further his plans]].
7th Apr '16 2:05:09 PM deimos415
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* The Kents as they appear in ''Film/ManOfSteel'' and later, ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'', unlike most depictions of Clark's adoptive parents who tend to have perfectly instilled wisdom; here they admit that they are making up much of what they do as it comes since neither of them was prepared for accidentally adopting an alien child with immense power.
20th Mar '16 7:54:10 AM SirSapphire
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* Lily's father Mickey in ''Series/HowIMetYourMother'' loves his daughter and can occasionally be a DotingParent for her but he was emotionally apathetic towards her during most of her life and his gambling and money problems hurt his relationship with Lily who has difficulty trusting him.

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* Lily's father Mickey in ''Series/HowIMetYourMother'' loves his daughter and can occasionally be a DotingParent for her but he was emotionally apathetic towards her during most of her life and his gambling and money problems hurt his relationship with Lily who has difficulty trusting him. It's pointed out in a later episode that when she was a baby he was an ''exceptionally'' good parent. His flaws didn't manifest until she reached school age and he had to find other things to fill his time.
16th Mar '16 1:46:31 PM Zephyr7
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* Maisie's biological parents in the modern adaptation of "What Maisie Knew." The father, though self-absorbed, is implied to feel seriously insecure about his paternal capabilities. Her equally self-absorbed mother tries to lavish Maisie with as much affection as she could but eventually pulls a IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy and allows Maisie to stay with her kind stepparents.
* Mary's parents, in an adaptation of ''Film/TheSecretGarden'', are hopelessly self-absorbed people who accidentally abandon their daughter during an earthquake because they forgot about her.
** For that matter, Uncle Archibald would also count. He loves his son and sees to it that he has the best care, but is so driven to grief over his wife Lillias's death and the fear that Colin inherited his hunchback condition that he is almost never home at all. This is also the case when he becomes Mary's guardian. He sees her exactly once [[spoiler:before the end of the story]], but when he meets her, he makes sure that she has everything she needs to be well looked after.
* ''Film/{{Juno}}'' uses this Trope to a degree. The title character's parents are divorced, leaving her with her Dad, step-mom, and half-sister. [[MissingMom She hasn't seen her mom in years, only communicating through letters,]] and her Dad and stepmom don't exactly react too horrified or shocked when they hear she's pregnant, aside from Dad proclaiming an intent to [[GroinAttack punch the boy who did it in the balls.]] At the same time, Juno's stepmom sticks up for her in the doctor's office when an x-ray tech makes a passing insult, and when she's feeling doubtful about a potentially serious relationship, her Dad is there to offer some good advice (albeit admitting that as a divorcee, he isn't the best person to give it).

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* Maisie's biological parents in the modern adaptation of "What Maisie Knew." The father, though self-absorbed, is implied to feel seriously insecure about his paternal capabilities. Her equally self-absorbed mother tries to lavish Maisie with as much affection as she could but eventually pulls a IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy and allows Maisie to stay with her kind stepparents.
* Mary's parents, in an adaptation of ''Film/TheSecretGarden'', are hopelessly self-absorbed people who accidentally abandon their daughter during an earthquake because they forgot about her.
** For that matter, Uncle Archibald would also count. He loves his son and sees to it that he has the best care, but is so driven to grief over his wife Lillias's death and the fear that Colin inherited his hunchback condition that he is almost never home at all. This is also the case when he becomes Mary's guardian. He sees her exactly once [[spoiler:before the end of the story]], but when he meets her, he makes sure that she has everything she needs to be well looked after.
* ''Film/{{Juno}}'' uses this Trope to a degree. The title character's parents are divorced, leaving her with her Dad, step-mom, and half-sister. [[MissingMom She hasn't seen her mom in years, only communicating through letters,]] and her Dad and stepmom don't exactly react too horrified or shocked when they hear she's pregnant, aside from Dad proclaiming an intent to [[GroinAttack punch the boy who did it in the balls.]] At the same time, Juno's stepmom sticks up for her in the doctor's office when an x-ray tech makes a passing insult, and when she's feeling doubtful about a potentially serious relationship, her Dad is there to offer some good advice (albeit admitting that as a divorcee, he isn't the best person to give it).
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* In ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'', the King and Queen meant well but understandably did not know how to handle a daughter with vast magical powers. Their attempts to keep her isolated from everyone and telling Elsa to "conceal, not feel" prevented disaster in the short-term but they also strained the once close bond between their children and left them both with issues. Worse, the psychological toll this had on Elsa ensured that when she did eventually lose control she would lose it to such a degree that the entire kingdom was threatened.
* Judy's parents in ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'' have a loving, supportive relationship with their daughter but they wish she would choose a safer career. They mean well but they do acknowledge and advise to a young Judy that it's near impossible for her to be a police officer and try to attempt to convince her to "settle" and be a carrot farmer instead.
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* Maisie's biological parents in the modern adaptation of "What Maisie Knew." The father, though self-absorbed, is implied to feel seriously insecure about his paternal capabilities. Her equally self-absorbed mother tries to lavish Maisie with as much affection as she could but eventually pulls a IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy and allows Maisie to stay with her kind stepparents.
* Mary's parents, in an adaptation of ''Film/TheSecretGarden'', are hopelessly self-absorbed people who accidentally abandon their daughter during an earthquake because they forgot about her.
** For that matter, Uncle Archibald would also count. He loves his son and sees to it that he has the best care, but is so driven to grief over his wife Lillias's death and the fear that Colin inherited his hunchback condition that he is almost never home at all. This is also the case when he becomes Mary's guardian. He sees her exactly once [[spoiler:before the end of the story]], but when he meets her, he makes sure that she has everything she needs to be well looked after.
* ''Film/{{Juno}}'' uses this Trope to a degree. The title character's parents are divorced, leaving her with her Dad, step-mom, and half-sister. [[MissingMom She hasn't seen her mom in years, only communicating through letters,]] and her Dad and stepmom don't exactly react too horrified or shocked when they hear she's pregnant, aside from Dad proclaiming an intent to [[GroinAttack punch the boy who did it in the balls.]] At the same time, Juno's stepmom sticks up for her in the doctor's office when an x-ray tech makes a passing insult, and when she's feeling doubtful about a potentially serious relationship, her Dad is there to offer some good advice (albeit admitting that as a divorcee, he isn't the best person to give it).



* In ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'', the King and Queen meant well but understandably did not know how to handle a daughter with vast magical powers. Their attempts to keep her isolated from everyone and telling Elsa to "conceal, not feel" prevented disaster in the short-term but they also strained the once close bond between their children and left them both with issues. Worse, the psychological toll this had on Elsa ensured that when she did eventually lose control she would lose it to such a degree that the entire kingdom was threatened.
2nd Mar '16 4:33:56 PM Eievie
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->''"I guess I'm just trying to say... my parents aren't perfect, but they tried their best. I guess that just makes them human, in the end."''

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->''"I guess I'm just trying to say... say… my parents aren't perfect, but they tried their best. I guess that just makes them human, in the end."''



Jim and Joan are nice. You'd like them if you met them. Jim's the boss of the big advertising company down the street, and Joan's a physics teacher at the nearby high school. They were HighSchoolSweethearts, and are still [[HappilyMarried clearly in love]]. They play tennis together on a Saturday, but on Sunday Jim goes fishing while Joan goes white water rafting. They're always busy, but always friendly. Nice folks.

Oh, and they have a son. When they ''remember'' they have a son, they're {{Doting Parent}}s... it's just that they keep forgetting he exists.

Unlike the all-powerful but under-characterised ParentExMachina, the reader/viewer knows about {{The Protagonist}}'s parents. They have friends outside the home, hobbies that take them out of the house and full time jobs. The audience will also be able to discern what kind of relationship the two have as a couple -- whether they're still as starry-eyed over each other as they were when they started dating, or on the brink of divorce. They will have quirks, character strengths and character failings.

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Jim Alice and Joan Bob are nice. You'd like them if you met them. Jim's Bob's the boss of the big advertising company down the street, and Joan's Alice's a physics teacher at the nearby high school. They were HighSchoolSweethearts, and are still [[HappilyMarried clearly in love]]. They play tennis together on a Saturday, but on Sunday Jim Bob goes fishing while Joan Alice goes white water rafting. They're always busy, but always friendly. Nice folks.

Oh, and they have a son. When they ''remember'' they have a son, they're {{Doting Parent}}s... Parent}}s… it's just that they keep forgetting he exists.

Unlike the all-powerful but under-characterised ParentExMachina, the reader/viewer knows about {{The Protagonist}}'s parents. They have friends outside the home, hobbies that take them out of the house and full time jobs. The audience will also be able to discern what kind of relationship the two have as a couple -- whether couple--whether they're still as starry-eyed over each other as they were when they started dating, or on the brink of divorce. They will have quirks, character strengths and character failings.



This couple are not usually nasty -- or, if they are, we'll be told all about their FreudianExcuse. They're probably at least sympathetic, if not downright likable. We'd probably like to have them as friends, but definitely wouldn't want them as parents.

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This couple are not usually nasty -- or, nasty--or, if they are, we'll be told all about their FreudianExcuse. They're probably at least sympathetic, if not downright likable. We'd probably like to have them as friends, but definitely wouldn't want them as parents.



One particular type of this parent is one, usually-single parent that is firmly in the CompetenceZone, and probably a part of their child's [[ZanyScheme zany schemes.]] Their friends will think these parents are "cool" and they will probably agree... he just wishes his dad would occasionally show up to parents' night, and that mum remembered to cook dinner every so often.

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One particular type of this parent is one, usually-single parent that is firmly in the CompetenceZone, and probably a part of their child's [[ZanyScheme zany schemes.]] Their friends will think these parents are "cool" and they will probably agree... agree… he just wishes his dad would occasionally show up to parents' night, and that mum remembered to cook dinner every so often.



* Momomiya Ichigo's parents in ''TokyoMewMew'' are completely wrapped up in each other. Her mother is quick to squeal over whichever boy she's seen her daughter with, and her father is overprotective and goes off on a RantInducingSlight. However, they're shuffled off to ParentalAbandonment-land when she has to save the world, only to come back and punish her for being late to get home. They're seen as good people, they just... don't get it.
* Izumi's mother from ''Manga/FullmoonWoSagashite'' is eventually depicted as this, though she was originally more portrayed as an abusive woman. [[spoiler: Her husband's apparently sudden and early death had her stricken with grief, to the point that she wasn't capable of giving comfort to her son, Izumi/Leo, and caring well for him, needing comfort herself. She got her comfort by continuously dating and sleeping with men, but their rejection because she had a child was too much for her and she, wrongly, blamed him for it. When Izumi/Leo runs off and commits suicide in front of her, she realizes the mistakes she has made and that she was not and could not be a good mother to him, even crying when she sees that her son prefers death than to live with her any longer...]]
* Part of the {{Deconstruction}} in ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' revolves around this trope. Many SuperRobot shows have a teenage mecha pilot and a long-absent father who designed the mecha, so ''Evangelion'' shows how traumatizing it would be for a real teen to fight in a giant robot -- and what kind of father would be long-absent to design the robot.

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* Momomiya Ichigo's parents in ''TokyoMewMew'' are completely wrapped up in each other. Her mother is quick to squeal over whichever boy she's seen her daughter with, and her father is overprotective and goes off on a RantInducingSlight. However, they're shuffled off to ParentalAbandonment-land when she has to save the world, only to come back and punish her for being late to get home. They're seen as good people, they just... just… don't get it.
* Izumi's mother from ''Manga/FullmoonWoSagashite'' is eventually depicted as this, though she was originally more portrayed as an abusive woman. [[spoiler: Her husband's apparently sudden and early death had her stricken with grief, to the point that she wasn't capable of giving comfort to her son, Izumi/Leo, and caring well for him, needing comfort herself. She got her comfort by continuously dating and sleeping with men, but their rejection because she had a child was too much for her and she, wrongly, blamed him for it. When Izumi/Leo runs off and commits suicide in front of her, she realizes the mistakes she has made and that she was not and could not be a good mother to him, even crying when she sees that her son prefers death than to live with her any longer...]]
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* Part of the {{Deconstruction}} in ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' revolves around this trope. Many SuperRobot shows have a teenage mecha pilot and a long-absent father who designed the mecha, so ''Evangelion'' shows how traumatizing it would be for a real teen to fight in a giant robot -- and robot--and what kind of father would be long-absent to design the robot.



*** Koushirou's parents, Masami and Yoshie. They're technically GoodParents, genuinely loving and even doting a little on him... [[spoiler: but didn't tell Koushirou that he was actually their nephew, and they adopted him after his parents died in a car crash as a baby. Which also coincided with the death of their own child.]] Koushirou learned this "little secret" while overhearing a talk between them, and it caused him lots of angst. But then, they talk about it openly and get better.

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*** Koushirou's parents, Masami and Yoshie. They're technically GoodParents, genuinely loving and even doting a little on him... him… [[spoiler: but didn't tell Koushirou that he was actually their nephew, and they adopted him after his parents died in a car crash as a baby. Which also coincided with the death of their own child.]] Koushirou learned this "little secret" while overhearing a talk between them, and it caused him lots of angst. But then, they talk about it openly and get better.



* ''Manga/FromEroicaWithLove'' briefly examined the repercussions of this - an unusually serious take for a comedy manga. Dorian's dad was a gay aristocrat, who was presumably pressured into marrying. After three daughters (who he doesn't seem to have concerned himself with), he is delighted with his son, who he sees as "an ally in a house full of women." He no longer bothers pretending to be respectable, and fills the house with his assorted friends, including thieves and criminals of various types, introducing his son into this social sphere. Dorian takes to thievery like a duck to water, and his father encourages this. That's the last straw for Dorian's mother, who packs up her daughters and leaves the family home, which eventually has to be sold to pay for the divorce settlement.

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* ''Manga/FromEroicaWithLove'' briefly examined the repercussions of this - an this--an unusually serious take for a comedy manga. Dorian's dad was a gay aristocrat, who was presumably pressured into marrying. After three daughters (who he doesn't seem to have concerned himself with), he is delighted with his son, who he sees as "an ally in a house full of women." He no longer bothers pretending to be respectable, and fills the house with his assorted friends, including thieves and criminals of various types, introducing his son into this social sphere. Dorian takes to thievery like a duck to water, and his father encourages this. That's the last straw for Dorian's mother, who packs up her daughters and leaves the family home, which eventually has to be sold to pay for the divorce settlement.



* Satoshi and Eriko Oginome from ''Anime/MawaruPenguindrum''. They do love their daughter Ringo, but [[spoiler: the death of their eldest daughter Momoka in a strange incident completely trashed the family dynamics, since Satoshi insisted that they should move on and Eriko couldn't let go.]] Now they're divorced and the teenaged Ringo lives with Eriko, while Satoshi takes her out in periodic outings. [[spoiler: But Satoshi neglects to tell Ringo [[ParentWithNewParamour that he is dating again]]...[[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom which unintentionally]] makes Ringo despair and speed up her "Project M", causing the infamous AttemptedRape incident of episode 8 and all that came up next.]]

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* Satoshi and Eriko Oginome from ''Anime/MawaruPenguindrum''. They do love their daughter Ringo, but [[spoiler: the death of their eldest daughter Momoka in a strange incident completely trashed the family dynamics, since Satoshi insisted that they should move on and Eriko couldn't let go.]] Now they're divorced and the teenaged Ringo lives with Eriko, while Satoshi takes her out in periodic outings. [[spoiler: But Satoshi neglects to tell Ringo [[ParentWithNewParamour that he is dating again]]...again…]] [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom which unintentionally]] makes Ringo despair and speed up her "Project M", causing the infamous AttemptedRape incident of episode 8 and all that came up next.]]



* Ed and Al's dad in ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'' is a DisappearedDad for most of their lives, but when he lived with them while their mother was alive, he's implied to have been this trope - spending most of his time holed up in his study working on his alchemy researches. [[spoiler: He was mainly researching a way to cure his near-immortality so he wouldn't outlive his wife and children, but discovered the sinister plot his former friend had with the entire country.]]

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* Ed and Al's dad in ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'' is a DisappearedDad for most of their lives, but when he lived with them while their mother was alive, he's implied to have been this trope - spending trope--spending most of his time holed up in his study working on his alchemy researches. [[spoiler: He was mainly researching a way to cure his near-immortality so he wouldn't outlive his wife and children, but discovered the sinister plot his former friend had with the entire country.]]



* [[ComicBook/{{PS238}} Atlas]] is pretty much as you'd expect [[CaptainErsatz classic Superman]] [[TheCape to be as a father]]: Somewhat bumbling, well-intentioned and eager to show his superpowered son [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatResponsibility how to take part in the 'family business']], but also [[WhenYouComingHomeDad chronically busy saving the world]] and somewhat uncomprehending of the fact that his son is a slight ShrinkingViolet who'd prefer to become a musician. That said, he's ''way'' better than [[ParentalNeglect Tyler's parents]]...

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* [[ComicBook/{{PS238}} Atlas]] is pretty much as you'd expect [[CaptainErsatz classic Superman]] [[TheCape to be as a father]]: Somewhat bumbling, well-intentioned and eager to show his superpowered son [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatResponsibility how to take part in the 'family business']], but also [[WhenYouComingHomeDad chronically busy saving the world]] and somewhat uncomprehending of the fact that his son is a slight ShrinkingViolet who'd prefer to become a musician. That said, he's ''way'' better than [[ParentalNeglect Tyler's parents]]...parents]]…



* WesternAnimation/{{Coraline}}'s parents are too busy trying to move into a new house and meet a publishing deadline to cater to their bored daughter - as her mother points out, she is old enough to entertain herself. [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor What she finds when she goes exploring]] is more than enough to make her appreciate her lovingly boring parents. [[Literature/{{Coraline}} The book]] has a similar vibe, but Coraline's mother is harsh and unsympathetic, while her father is loving, but too distracted to pay much attention.

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* WesternAnimation/{{Coraline}}'s parents are too busy trying to move into a new house and meet a publishing deadline to cater to their bored daughter - as daughter--as her mother points out, she is old enough to entertain herself. [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor What she finds when she goes exploring]] is more than enough to make her appreciate her lovingly boring parents. [[Literature/{{Coraline}} The book]] has a similar vibe, but Coraline's mother is harsh and unsympathetic, while her father is loving, but too distracted to pay much attention.



--> '''Dr Samson''': "I never knew why she never talked about you...I do now."

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--> '''Dr Samson''': "I never knew why she never talked about you...you… I do now."



** Creator/JacquelineWilson is diligent in depicting her ParentsAsPeople. Often likable, these characters don't fall into stereotypes...but the reader still wouldn't want to be related to them. In ''The Illustrated Mum,'' Marigold, a manic-depressive single mother, ''adores'' her two children, but feeds them cake rather than cooking them a proper dinner. In ''The Suitcase Kid,'' Andy's divorced parents marry new partners who already have families of their own. Her parents are so involved with their new lives that they don't realize they're using Andy as a pawn to "get back" at each other. In ''The Diamond Girls'', the heroine and her sisters have lived in continual disorder all their lives, with their mother frequently changing boyfriends and moving her family to new homes. ''Amber'', an early novel, was about a girl who rebels against her traveller mother and struggles to live a normal life.

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** Creator/JacquelineWilson is diligent in depicting her ParentsAsPeople. Often likable, these characters don't fall into stereotypes...stereotypes… but the reader still wouldn't want to be related to them. In ''The Illustrated Mum,'' Marigold, a manic-depressive single mother, ''adores'' her two children, but feeds them cake rather than cooking them a proper dinner. In ''The Suitcase Kid,'' Andy's divorced parents marry new partners who already have families of their own. Her parents are so involved with their new lives that they don't realize they're using Andy as a pawn to "get back" at each other. In ''The Diamond Girls'', the heroine and her sisters have lived in continual disorder all their lives, with their mother frequently changing boyfriends and moving her family to new homes. ''Amber'', an early novel, was about a girl who rebels against her traveller mother and struggles to live a normal life.



** In ''Literature/AreYouThereGodItsMeMargaret'', the religious issues affecting Margaret affect her parents too -- her mother was raised Christian, her dad raised Jewish. They're good parents for most of the book, until Margaret's maternal grandparents show up...whereupon they cancel Margaret's holiday in order to meet them, only to spend the entire visit using her to placate or annoy her grandparents.

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** In ''Literature/AreYouThereGodItsMeMargaret'', the religious issues affecting Margaret affect her parents too -- her too--her mother was raised Christian, her dad raised Jewish. They're good parents for most of the book, until Margaret's maternal grandparents show up...up… whereupon they cancel Margaret's holiday in order to meet them, only to spend the entire visit using her to placate or annoy her grandparents.



* This is key to the mystery of ''Literature/TheCuriousIncidentOfTheDogInTheNighttime'' - it turns out that being an adult does not automatically make you capable of coping with an autistic son. Nor does it make you capable of facing up to that in a mature and constructive way.

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* This is key to the mystery of ''Literature/TheCuriousIncidentOfTheDogInTheNighttime'' - it ''Literature/TheCuriousIncidentOfTheDogInTheNighttime''--it turns out that being an adult does not automatically make you capable of coping with an autistic son. Nor does it make you capable of facing up to that in a mature and constructive way.



** [[spoiler: And now ''Harry'' is a father]]...which just kind of says it all, really.

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** [[spoiler: And now ''Harry'' is a father]]...father]]… which just kind of says it all, really.



* An Old Republic survey team, well before ''Literature/GalaxyOfFear'', crash landed on Dagobah and couldn't get off. They couldn't find enough food to support themselves, but a few years into this some still paired off and had children. This meant there were more mouths to feed, and not enough food for any of them, especially as more and more of the adults died from animal attacks and fevers. The remaining adults [[spoiler: started to [[ImAHumanitarian feed the bodies to their children]]]], a practice which the kids adopted when the last parent died, when the oldest child was seven. Malnourished and uneducated, the Children felt [[spoiler: cannibalism]] was an expression of love - and they're forced to confront the truth that in fact it was filled with desperation and horror.

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* An Old Republic survey team, well before ''Literature/GalaxyOfFear'', crash landed on Dagobah and couldn't get off. They couldn't find enough food to support themselves, but a few years into this some still paired off and had children. This meant there were more mouths to feed, and not enough food for any of them, especially as more and more of the adults died from animal attacks and fevers. The remaining adults [[spoiler: started to [[ImAHumanitarian feed the bodies to their children]]]], a practice which the kids adopted when the last parent died, when the oldest child was seven. Malnourished and uneducated, the Children felt [[spoiler: cannibalism]] was an expression of love - and love--and they're forced to confront the truth that in fact it was filled with desperation and horror.



* [[Literature/HarryPotter Petunia Dursley]] probably doesn't realize she's taking out her anger at the Wizarding World for stealing - and killing - her beloved little sister on Harry. She doesn't mean to to turn her own son into a spoiled, selfish oaf either. Petunia needs some serious counseling.

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* [[Literature/HarryPotter Petunia Dursley]] probably doesn't realize she's taking out her anger at the Wizarding World for stealing - and killing - her stealing--and killing--her beloved little sister on Harry. She doesn't mean to to turn her own son into a spoiled, selfish oaf either. Petunia needs some serious counseling.



* [[Literature/JessicaDarling Jessica Darling's]] parents aren't particularly good at being parents to her, but it's not for lack of trying and good intentions. Jess notes at one point that they clearly have her best interests at heart, they just have no idea what those interests actually are - and she finds it hard to hold that against them, because most of the time [[TheEeyore she can't even figure out herself what actually would make her happy.]]

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* [[Literature/JessicaDarling Jessica Darling's]] parents aren't particularly good at being parents to her, but it's not for lack of trying and good intentions. Jess notes at one point that they clearly have her best interests at heart, they just have no idea what those interests actually are - and are--and she finds it hard to hold that against them, because most of the time [[TheEeyore she can't even figure out herself what actually would make her happy.]]



* ''MySoCalledLife'' can be considered the TropeCodifier in TeenDrama - Patty and Graham played just as large a role in the plot as Angela herself, because a WrittenInInfirmity (Claire Danes's age - child-labour laws prevented her from spending a full work day on set) necessitated TwoLinesNoWaiting.

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* ''MySoCalledLife'' can be considered the TropeCodifier in TeenDrama - Patty TeenDrama--Patty and Graham played just as large a role in the plot as Angela herself, because a WrittenInInfirmity (Claire Danes's age - child-labour age--child-labour laws prevented her from spending a full work day on set) necessitated TwoLinesNoWaiting.



** That series runs on enough BigScrewedUpFamily to power a whole season of ''[[Series/TheJerrySpringerShow Jerry Springer]]''; Charming and Snow didn't ''get'' to be parents due to the curse, and are starting from scratch when dealing with Emma (who is now thirty and was raised by the DepartmentOfChildDisservices). Regina (aka Snow White's stepmother) is the adopted mother of Henry (Emma's biological kid from a TeenPregnancy), but neglected the boy for hours on end because bullying the townsfolk into submission and batshit crazy revenge schemes against her old enemy Snow White were a more "worthwhile" use of her time. Regina's own mother, Cora, was weapons-grade sociopathy, and ''Regina's birth'' was nothing more than part of the plan to have the whole universe bowing to her in revenge for the royals making fun of Cora's low birth as a miller's daughter...It's bad when the boy who hasn't yet hit his teens is a good candidate for OnlySaneMan.

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** That series runs on enough BigScrewedUpFamily to power a whole season of ''[[Series/TheJerrySpringerShow Jerry Springer]]''; Charming and Snow didn't ''get'' to be parents due to the curse, and are starting from scratch when dealing with Emma (who is now thirty and was raised by the DepartmentOfChildDisservices). Regina (aka Snow White's stepmother) is the adopted mother of Henry (Emma's biological kid from a TeenPregnancy), but neglected the boy for hours on end because bullying the townsfolk into submission and batshit crazy revenge schemes against her old enemy Snow White were a more "worthwhile" use of her time. Regina's own mother, Cora, was weapons-grade sociopathy, and ''Regina's birth'' was nothing more than part of the plan to have the whole universe bowing to her in revenge for the royals making fun of Cora's low birth as a miller's daughter...daughter… It's bad when the boy who hasn't yet hit his teens is a good candidate for OnlySaneMan.



** They're trying, and their better efforts tend to produce wonderful heartwarming moments. But they're ordinary people and Calvin is - well - extraordinary. (Take that whichever way you like.)

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** They're trying, and their better efforts tend to produce wonderful heartwarming moments. But they're ordinary people and Calvin is - well - extraordinary.is--well--extraordinary. (Take that whichever way you like.)



* A spoilerrifc example - coming to terms with this is actually the crux of [[spoiler: Cheryl's]] issues in ''VideoGame/SilentHillShatteredMemories''. Harry and his wife [[spoiler: Dahlia]] ''did'' seem to have a happy relationship at some point in the past, but they also had plenty of issues that made getting married basically out of high school and raising a kid pretty tough. (Depending on the player's actions, the ending can also reveal that [[spoiler: the couple ended up going through a divorce, that either one of them was abusive, or that Harry ended up cheated on his wife]].) Then [[spoiler: Harry dies in a car crash, causing Cheryl - who was seven at the time - to grow up obsessing over her few rose-tinted memories of him, while also viewing her mother as a bitter, washed-up tramp]]; Kaufmann's WhamLine and accompanying speech at the end of the game break down exactly how harmful such an unrealistic worldview is for the psyche.

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* A spoilerrifc example - coming example--coming to terms with this is actually the crux of [[spoiler: Cheryl's]] issues in ''VideoGame/SilentHillShatteredMemories''. Harry and his wife [[spoiler: Dahlia]] ''did'' seem to have a happy relationship at some point in the past, but they also had plenty of issues that made getting married basically out of high school and raising a kid pretty tough. (Depending on the player's actions, the ending can also reveal that [[spoiler: the couple ended up going through a divorce, that either one of them was abusive, or that Harry ended up cheated on his wife]].) Then [[spoiler: Harry dies in a car crash, causing Cheryl - who Cheryl--who was seven at the time - to time--to grow up obsessing over her few rose-tinted memories of him, while also viewing her mother as a bitter, washed-up tramp]]; Kaufmann's WhamLine and accompanying speech at the end of the game break down exactly how harmful such an unrealistic worldview is for the psyche.



* Arguably occurs in ''Webcomic/FriendlyHostility.'' Padma and Nefertari Maharassa are still besotted with each other, and they aren't conventional parents -- especially since "conventional parents" generally don't have a pet Satanist (Rafi) occupying the spare room. They're not ''bad'' parents though; the Maharassa kids have a interesting/fun childhood, it's just prone to some...drama. Such as the parents leaving Rafi to babysit only to find he'd lost their daughter to cannibals. Fatima, their oldest child, has a strange love-hate relationship with her family, but then again she's an extremely cynical DeadpanSnarker. Their younger son, Fox, just adores them. Padma and Nefertari are always there for their now grown-up children, but they're still prone to some rather eccentric behaviour.

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* Arguably occurs in ''Webcomic/FriendlyHostility.'' Padma and Nefertari Maharassa are still besotted with each other, and they aren't conventional parents -- especially parents--especially since "conventional parents" generally don't have a pet Satanist (Rafi) occupying the spare room. They're not ''bad'' parents though; the Maharassa kids have a interesting/fun childhood, it's just prone to some...some… drama. Such as the parents leaving Rafi to babysit only to find he'd lost their daughter to cannibals. Fatima, their oldest child, has a strange love-hate relationship with her family, but then again she's an extremely cynical DeadpanSnarker. Their younger son, Fox, just adores them. Padma and Nefertari are always there for their now grown-up children, but they're still prone to some rather eccentric behaviour.



* We don't see them, but WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic's parents. Abusive, scary, implied to have expected way too much of him and apparently raised him as a girl for a short time, but took him out for a meal when he got an A- and his mum sorted things out when he was getting bullied as a child. That last bit more than likely induced StockholmSyndrome, as he's still living with her and calls her his world.

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* We don't see them, but WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic's parents. Abusive, scary, implied to have expected way too much of him and apparently raised him as a girl for a short time, but took him out for a meal when he got an A- and A--and his mum sorted things out when he was getting bullied as a child. That last bit more than likely induced StockholmSyndrome, as he's still living with her and calls her his world.



* Timmy Turner's parents, in ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddParents'', exemplify this trope. They're silly, affectionate, devoted to each other...and leave Timmy in the care of a psychotic babysitter while they're off pursuing their hobby-of-the-week. They do make earnest attempts at being good parents (and are always quick to declare YouAreGrounded), but the fact is that Wanda provides the more traditional "motherly" role. In the pilot, they were unaware it was possible to hire someone to look after your children and were just sickeningly devoted to giving Timmy all their attention.
* Ray Rocket, Reggie and Otto's dad in ''WesternAnimation/RocketPower'', is a "cool" dad with one foot firmly in the CompetenceZone...so he falls victim to this trope occasionally. One examples is in ''Race Across New Zealand,'' where he lets his own macho pride turn into ParentalFavoritism, to Reggie's dismay.

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* Timmy Turner's parents, in ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddParents'', exemplify this trope. They're silly, affectionate, devoted to each other...other… and leave Timmy in the care of a psychotic babysitter while they're off pursuing their hobby-of-the-week. They do make earnest attempts at being good parents (and are always quick to declare YouAreGrounded), but the fact is that Wanda provides the more traditional "motherly" role. In the pilot, they were unaware it was possible to hire someone to look after your children and were just sickeningly devoted to giving Timmy all their attention.
* Ray Rocket, Reggie and Otto's dad in ''WesternAnimation/RocketPower'', is a "cool" dad with one foot firmly in the CompetenceZone...CompetenceZone… so he falls victim to this trope occasionally. One examples is in ''Race Across New Zealand,'' where he lets his own macho pride turn into ParentalFavoritism, to Reggie's dismay.



* Ron's parents in ''WesternAnimation/KimPossible'' could be said to fit this trope. His parents -- particularly his dad -- are relatively pleasant people, but show little interest in their son. They barely even include him in decisions they make which affect his life, such as moving to Norway in TheMovie or adopting a second child. The fourth season did, however, see them become a little more involved in his life, such as the episode in which Mr. Stoppable, who is an actuary, helped bring down a villain whose power was his ability to do math.

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* Ron's parents in ''WesternAnimation/KimPossible'' could be said to fit this trope. His parents -- particularly parents--sarticularly his dad -- are dad--are relatively pleasant people, but show little interest in their son. They barely even include him in decisions they make which affect his life, such as moving to Norway in TheMovie or adopting a second child. The fourth season did, however, see them become a little more involved in his life, such as the episode in which Mr. Stoppable, who is an actuary, helped bring down a villain whose power was his ability to do math.



* Both ''WesternAnimation/{{Daria}}'' and Jane's parents are portrayed as people who have good hearts but whose self interests and issues, be they with work, emotional needs, or personal concerns tend to vastly overshadow their interest in their own children. Daria's mom Helen is a huge {{Workaholic}}, her dad Jake is a clownish ManChild, and Jane's parents Vincent and Amanda... [[HandsOffParenting well...]]

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* Both ''WesternAnimation/{{Daria}}'' and Jane's parents are portrayed as people who have good hearts but whose self interests and issues, be they with work, emotional needs, or personal concerns tend to vastly overshadow their interest in their own children. Daria's mom Helen is a huge {{Workaholic}}, her dad Jake is a clownish ManChild, and Jane's parents Vincent and Amanda... Amanda… [[HandsOffParenting well...]]well…]]



* Doctor Doofensmirtz, resident MadScientist from ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb'' would probably fit into this trope. After having a HilariouslyAbusiveChildhood, he's ''very'' dedicated to being a wonderful dad to his daughter Vanessa...except he isn't very good at it. When he isn't making the usual 'embarrassing parent' mistakes, conflicts result from the fact that he's sometimes too obsessed with his job of causing evil to care for his daughter. However, he's still over-all presented as being one of the GoodParents.

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* Doctor Doofensmirtz, resident MadScientist from ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb'' would probably fit into this trope. After having a HilariouslyAbusiveChildhood, he's ''very'' dedicated to being a wonderful dad to his daughter Vanessa...Vanessa… except he isn't very good at it. When he isn't making the usual 'embarrassing parent' mistakes, conflicts result from the fact that he's sometimes too obsessed with his job of causing evil to care for his daughter. However, he's still over-all presented as being one of the GoodParents.



* Austrian Empress UsefulNotes/MariaTheresa is described as such by history, media and TheOtherWiki. She ''was'' affectionate to them (showing some favoritism towards her fifth child Maria Christina, both for being born in Maria Theresa's 25th birthday ''and'' for [[TheOjou being classy, talented and cute]]), but also used them as pawns via {{Arranged Marriage}}s like pretty much every Habsburg and non-Habsburg monarch; she wrote to them frequently to keep close contact with each son or daughter, while not being above of trying to use her motherly authority to influence their lives. And you know how... ''[[SarcasmMode well]]'' that worked [[MarieAntoinette in a certain case.]]

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* Austrian Empress UsefulNotes/MariaTheresa is described as such by history, media and TheOtherWiki. She ''was'' affectionate to them (showing some favoritism towards her fifth child Maria Christina, both for being born in Maria Theresa's 25th birthday ''and'' for [[TheOjou being classy, talented and cute]]), but also used them as pawns via {{Arranged Marriage}}s like pretty much every Habsburg and non-Habsburg monarch; she wrote to them frequently to keep close contact with each son or daughter, while not being above of trying to use her motherly authority to influence their lives. And you know how... how… ''[[SarcasmMode well]]'' that worked [[MarieAntoinette in a certain case.]]
7th Feb '16 1:53:51 PM ladyofthelibrary
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* Tino's dad in TheWeekenders obviously cares a lot about his son but due to insecurities about being boring, fails to realize that all his son wants to do when he's visiting his dad (or his dad is visiting him) is to spend time with him and ''just'' him and is so upset by the latest visit that he just wants it to be over. It takes Tish, Lor and Carver to convince him of what he's doing wrong.

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* Tino's dad in TheWeekenders obviously cares a lot about his son but due to insecurities about being boring, fails to realize that all his son wants to do when he's visiting his dad (or his dad is visiting him) is to spend time with him and ''just'' him and is so upset by the latest visit that he just wants it to be over. It He eventually fixes it but it takes Tish, Lor and Carver a full-hour episode to convince him of what he's doing wrong.
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7th Feb '16 1:51:22 PM ladyofthelibrary
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* Tino's dad in TheWeekenders obviously cares a lot about his son but due to insecurities about being boring, fails to realize that all his son wants to do when he's visiting his dad (or his dad is visiting him) is to spend time with him and ''just'' him and is so upset by the latest visit that he just wants it to be over. It takes Tish, Lor and Carver to convince him of what he's doing wrong.
26th Jan '16 9:46:23 PM Adept
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* Mariko Shinobu's parents in OniisamaE. They're not bad persons per se, but they have ''very'' serious issues, which really don't contribute to [[BrokenBird Mariko's]] convoluted emotional state.

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* Mariko Shinobu's parents in OniisamaE.''Manga/OniisamaE''. They're not bad persons per se, but they have ''very'' serious issues, which really don't contribute to [[BrokenBird Mariko's]] convoluted emotional state.
13th Jan '16 1:29:08 AM dungbootle
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* Many children of successful professionals and academics are unfamiliar with this trope, as their parents are better than yours.
9th Jan '16 5:10:48 AM Baeraad555
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* [[Literature/JessicaDarling Jessica Darling's]] parents aren't particularly good at being parents to her, but it's not for lack of trying and good intentions. Jess notes at one point that they clearly have her best interests at heart, they just have no idea what those interests actually are - and she finds it hard to hold that against them, because most of the time [[TheEeyore she can't even figure out herself what actually would make her happy.]]
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