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26th Jun '17 9:00:58 AM TheMightyHeptagon
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'' has been accused of this with the additional Tyrell scenes in Season 5 which didn't happen in the books. Margaery Tyrell and her grandmother Olenna Tyrell have become quite popular characters and the scenes are well-acted... however, overall they don't contribute much to the plot. Even worse, the writers were already making huge cuts to the material in Season 5, meaning other storylines seriously suffer and feel very rushed.

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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'' ''Series/GameOfThrones''
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has been accused of this with the additional Tyrell scenes in Season 5 which didn't happen in the books. Margaery Tyrell and her grandmother Olenna Tyrell have become quite popular characters and the scenes are well-acted... however, overall they don't contribute much to the plot. Even worse, the writers were already making huge cuts to the material in Season 5, meaning other storylines seriously suffer and feel very rushed.rushed.
** The reappearance of the EnsembleDarkhorse [[spoiler: Benjen Stark]] in Season 6 is also a pretty glaring example. Not only does it give validation to fans of the books who were adamantly convinced that [[spoiler: "Coldhands" was Benjen]] (a widespread theory that was nonetheless [[{{Fanon}} never actually proven]]), but he's portrayed as a OneManArmy who effortlessly cuts down White Walkers in a snazzy black ninja-cowl. His big stylized action sequence is pretty at odds with the show's usual grounded realism, and it comes off more as a love letter to a popular character than a realistic fight scene.
23rd Jun '17 3:21:10 PM GoodGamer14
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* Luna Loud from ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'' is a character with a lot [[LesYay same-sex]] fan shipping, artwork and fanfiction, comes the episode 'L is for Love' where is revealed that she has a crush on a girl named Sam. Thus revealing she's bisexual. A lot of fans where pleased.

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* Luna Loud from ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'' is a character with a lot [[LesYay same-sex]] fan shipping, artwork and fanfiction, comes the episode 'L is for Love' where is revealed that she has a crush on a girl named Sam. Thus Sam, thus revealing she's bisexual. A lot of fans where pleased.were pleased with this development.
23rd Jun '17 12:53:27 PM GoodGamer14
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* Luna Loud from ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'' is a character with a lot [[LesYay same-sex]] fan shipping, artwork and fanfiction, comes the episode 'L is for Love' where is revealed that she has a crush on a girl named Sam. Thus revealing she's bisexual. A lot of fans where pleased.
12th Jun '17 7:59:45 AM Piterpicher
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* ProfessionalWrestling writer VinceRusso is infamous for catering exclusively to the hardcore Internet "{{Smart Mark}}s" (who [[{{Kayfabe}} know that wrestling is fake]] but enjoy it as an art form). His biggest mistake was that he would often try to [[ShockingSwerve swerve]] these fans with confusing WorkedShoot angles. This is a problem for two reasons. First, the casual fans (90% of the fanbase) didn't know enough about the background of these swerves and were just confused by what was going on. Second, the smart marks (by nature of being smart marks) weren't fooled. What's more, he would often load these angles with obscure references that only the most hardcore fan would know of.

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* ProfessionalWrestling writer VinceRusso Wrestling/VinceRusso is infamous for catering exclusively to the hardcore Internet "{{Smart Mark}}s" (who [[{{Kayfabe}} know that wrestling is fake]] but enjoy it as an art form). His biggest mistake was that he would often try to [[ShockingSwerve swerve]] these fans with confusing WorkedShoot angles. This is a problem for two reasons. First, the casual fans (90% of the fanbase) didn't know enough about the background of these swerves and were just confused by what was going on. Second, the smart marks (by nature of being smart marks) weren't fooled. What's more, he would often load these angles with obscure references that only the most hardcore fan would know of.
3rd Jun '17 11:15:54 AM nombretomado
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* WhiteWolf's ''TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness'' setting had a specific form of this - every 'splatbook' (or expansion pack) they released inevitably raised the power level, awareness or general coolness of the group being discussed; they'd be depicted as being better than (or at least putting one over on) every other faction. Until the next one, where the next group would top ''that''. Some fans said they felt sorry for the one that had to go first, since the second was better, etc. putting the first faction at the bottom of the heap. It was a form of serial base-pandering, with different bases inside the White Wolf fandom.

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* WhiteWolf's Creator/WhiteWolf's ''TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness'' setting had a specific form of this - every 'splatbook' (or expansion pack) they released inevitably raised the power level, awareness or general coolness of the group being discussed; they'd be depicted as being better than (or at least putting one over on) every other faction. Until the next one, where the next group would top ''that''. Some fans said they felt sorry for the one that had to go first, since the second was better, etc. putting the first faction at the bottom of the heap. It was a form of serial base-pandering, with different bases inside the White Wolf fandom.
27th May '17 3:54:23 PM nombretomado
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* ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBrosTheLostLevels'' (also known as the Japanese version of ''Super Mario Bros 2'') is one of the earliest examples of the trope. Nintendo created a sequel to the original ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros'' that was a MissionPackSequel designed for players who mastered the first game and its subtitle was dubbed "For Super Players". Nintendo of America feared that the game would be too difficult for American players and would tarnish sales after the first ''Mario'' game sold so well. And they were right; ''Lost Levels'' has enemy placement and traps designed to catch players off guard very frequently, introduced the PoisonMushroom, had warp pipes that would send the player ''backwards'' in the level progression, and had an extra set of worlds that could only be unlocked by ''beating the game eight times in a row''. Western players would eventually get the game in ''Super Mario All-Stars'' with ''slightly'' reduced difficulty, but still [[NintendoHard bone crushingly hard]] overall and players would also get the original version of the game on the Wii's VirtualConsole.

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* ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBrosTheLostLevels'' (also known as the Japanese version of ''Super Mario Bros 2'') is one of the earliest examples of the trope. Nintendo created a sequel to the original ''VideoGame/SuperMarioBros'' that was a MissionPackSequel designed for players who mastered the first game and its subtitle was dubbed "For Super Players". Nintendo of America feared that the game would be too difficult for American players and would tarnish sales after the first ''Mario'' game sold so well. And they were right; ''Lost Levels'' has enemy placement and traps designed to catch players off guard very frequently, introduced the PoisonMushroom, had warp pipes that would send the player ''backwards'' in the level progression, and had an extra set of worlds that could only be unlocked by ''beating the game eight times in a row''. Western players would eventually get the game in ''Super Mario All-Stars'' with ''slightly'' reduced difficulty, but still [[NintendoHard bone crushingly hard]] overall and players would also get the original version of the game on the Wii's VirtualConsole.UsefulNotes/VirtualConsole.
19th May '17 11:08:12 PM Manny20444
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* After the very controversial reception obtained by ''WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce'' and ''WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien'' for being different than the [[WesternAnimation/{{Ben10}} original show]] and DarkerAndEdgier, the writers went for this trope when working on ''WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse'': the tone got DenserAndWackier, references to the original show were made to the point of ContinuityPorn, most villains and characters who were important in AF and UA (like Kevin, Gwen or Ben's girlfriend Julie) got either PutOnABus or DemotedToExtra, and flashbacks to the original show were included. Other than reversing the position of the fandom (many of the sequels fans hate it and many of the original series fans adore it), it didn't exactly change the situation.

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* After the very controversial reception obtained by ''WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce'' and ''WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien'' for being different than the [[WesternAnimation/{{Ben10}} original show]] and DarkerAndEdgier, the writers went for this trope when working on ''WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse'': the tone got DenserAndWackier, references to the original show were made to the point of ContinuityPorn, most villains and characters who were important in AF and UA (like Kevin, Gwen or Ben's girlfriend Julie) got either PutOnABus or DemotedToExtra, and flashbacks to parts and episodes taking place in the original show series era were included. Other than reversing the position of the fandom (many of the sequels fans hate it and many of the original series fans adore it), it didn't exactly change the situation.
16th May '17 10:29:38 AM nombretomado
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* ''Anime/CarnivalPhantasm'' seems to have been made exclusively for fans of ''{{Tsukihime}}'' and ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'', being little more than a SliceOfLife comedy consisting of the cast of the previously mentioned visual novels.

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* ''Anime/CarnivalPhantasm'' seems to have been made exclusively for fans of ''{{Tsukihime}}'' ''{{VisualNovel/Tsukihime}}'' and ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'', being little more than a SliceOfLife comedy consisting of the cast of the previously mentioned visual novels.
15th May '17 6:06:18 AM matruz
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* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'': In retrospect, the movie ''[[Anime/NarutoTheMovieRoadToNinja Road to Ninja]]'' was this for the Naruto/Sakura [[{{Shipping}} shippers]], as it was a {{Non Serial Movie}} that contains ShipTease upon ShipTease involving those characters, when in reality, their ShipTease in the manga had pretty much completely stopped after Chapter 469, save for maybe two moments afterwards that ultimately ended up falling flat on its rear. The movie was very likely an early apology from the studio for the impending ShipSinking of that pairing, which would officially[[note]]Although, also in retrospect, their ''definitive'' ShipSinking already had happened in the aforementioned Chapter 469/''Shippuden'' episode 206[[/note]] come in [[Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie the canonical movie that came after it]] and the series finale. Ironically, a lot of Naruto/Sakura shippers [[HateDumb later accused]] both the author and Creator/StudioPierrot of pandering instead to the followers of the FanPreferredCouple, Naruto/Hinata, by making it {{Canon}}. However, the author, Creator/MasashiKishimoto, [[WordOfGod has stated in several post-series interviews]] that Naruto ending up with Hinata was entirely '''his''' idea, that '''he''' had decided on Naruto/Hinata being the main OfficialCouple since the early stages of the manga, and that Sakura was ''never'' intended to be Naruto's main love interest to begin with.

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* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'': In retrospect, the movie ''[[Anime/NarutoTheMovieRoadToNinja Road to Ninja]]'' was this for the Naruto/Sakura [[{{Shipping}} shippers]], as it was a {{Non Serial Movie}} that contains ShipTease upon ShipTease involving those characters, when in reality, their ShipTease in the manga had pretty much completely stopped after Chapter 469, [[TrollingCreator save for maybe two moments afterwards that ultimately ended up falling flat on its rear.rear]]. The movie was very likely an early apology from the studio for the impending ShipSinking of that pairing, which would officially[[note]]Although, also in retrospect, their ''definitive'' ShipSinking already had happened in the aforementioned Chapter 469/''Shippuden'' episode 206[[/note]] come in [[Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie the canonical movie that came after it]] and the series finale. Ironically, a lot of Naruto/Sakura shippers [[HateDumb later accused]] both the author and Creator/StudioPierrot of pandering instead to the followers of the FanPreferredCouple, Naruto/Hinata, by making it {{Canon}}. However, the author, Creator/MasashiKishimoto, [[WordOfGod has stated in several post-series interviews]] that Naruto ending up with Hinata was entirely '''his''' idea, that '''he''' had decided on Naruto/Hinata being the main OfficialCouple since the early stages of the manga, and that Sakura was ''never'' intended to be Naruto's main love interest to begin with.
15th May '17 6:04:24 AM matruz
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* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'': In retrospect, the movie ''[[Anime/NarutoTheMovieRoadToNinja Road to Ninja]]'' was this for the Naruto/Sakura [[{{Shipping}} shippers]], as it was a {{Non Serial Movie}} that contains ShipTease upon ShipTease involving those characters, when in reality, their ShipTease in the manga had pretty much completely stopped after Chapter 469, save for maybe two moments afterwards that ultimately ended up falling flat on its rear. The movie was probably an early apology from the studio for the impending ShipSinking of that pairing, which would officially[[note]]Although, also in retrospect, their ''definitive'' ShipSinking already happened in the aforementioned Chapter 469/''Shippuden'' episode 206[[/note]] come in [[Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie the canonical movie that came after it]] and the series finale. Ironically, a lot of Naruto/Sakura shippers [[HateDumb later accused]] both the author and Creator/StudioPierrot of pandering instead to the followers of the FanPreferredCouple, Naruto/Hinata, by making it {{Canon}}. However, the author, Creator/MasashiKishimoto, [[WordOfGod has stated in several post-series interviews]] that Naruto ending up with Hinata was entirely '''his''' idea, that '''he''' had decided on Naruto/Hinata being the main OfficialCouple since the early stages of the manga, and that Sakura was ''never'' intended to be Naruto's main love interest to begin with.

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* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'': In retrospect, the movie ''[[Anime/NarutoTheMovieRoadToNinja Road to Ninja]]'' was this for the Naruto/Sakura [[{{Shipping}} shippers]], as it was a {{Non Serial Movie}} that contains ShipTease upon ShipTease involving those characters, when in reality, their ShipTease in the manga had pretty much completely stopped after Chapter 469, save for maybe two moments afterwards that ultimately ended up falling flat on its rear. The movie was probably very likely an early apology from the studio for the impending ShipSinking of that pairing, which would officially[[note]]Although, also in retrospect, their ''definitive'' ShipSinking already had happened in the aforementioned Chapter 469/''Shippuden'' episode 206[[/note]] come in [[Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie the canonical movie that came after it]] and the series finale. Ironically, a lot of Naruto/Sakura shippers [[HateDumb later accused]] both the author and Creator/StudioPierrot of pandering instead to the followers of the FanPreferredCouple, Naruto/Hinata, by making it {{Canon}}. However, the author, Creator/MasashiKishimoto, [[WordOfGod has stated in several post-series interviews]] that Naruto ending up with Hinata was entirely '''his''' idea, that '''he''' had decided on Naruto/Hinata being the main OfficialCouple since the early stages of the manga, and that Sakura was ''never'' intended to be Naruto's main love interest to begin with.
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