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23rd Jan '16 6:41:22 PM nombretomado
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** There also are several nods to the ''[=MvC2=]'' community, ''especially'' [[FountainOfMemes EMP Yipes]] and '''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZZUMjoxfZA MAHVEL,]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6ga9Jvdw9U BAYBEE!]]'''. Three of the [[FanNickname Four]] [[GameBreaker Gods]] ({{Magneto}}, {{Storm}}, and--[[BaseBreaker to the anger of some]]--Sentinel) are back, Magneto and Sent have their '''[[MemeticMutation MAG]]-[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKIN']]-[[MemeticMutation NETO]]''' and '''[[MemeticMutation DAT MANGO SENTINEL]]''' custom colors as actual outfits, {{Deadpool}} has a win quote against Magneto [[AscendedMeme referencing this]] ([[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxAbRmOiqvo&t=03m23s "I just beat Mag-freakin'-neto! Where yo curleh mustache at?!"]]), and [[MemeticMutation Pringles]] have been prizes.
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** There also are several nods to the ''[=MvC2=]'' community, ''especially'' [[FountainOfMemes EMP Yipes]] and '''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZZUMjoxfZA MAHVEL,]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6ga9Jvdw9U BAYBEE!]]'''. Three of the [[FanNickname Four]] [[GameBreaker Gods]] ({{Magneto}}, {{Storm}}, ComicBook/{{Storm}}, and--[[BaseBreaker to the anger of some]]--Sentinel) are back, Magneto and Sent have their '''[[MemeticMutation MAG]]-[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKIN']]-[[MemeticMutation NETO]]''' and '''[[MemeticMutation DAT MANGO SENTINEL]]''' custom colors as actual outfits, {{Deadpool}} has a win quote against Magneto [[AscendedMeme referencing this]] ([[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxAbRmOiqvo&t=03m23s "I just beat Mag-freakin'-neto! Where yo curleh mustache at?!"]]), and [[MemeticMutation Pringles]] have been prizes.
23rd Jan '16 4:04:47 PM nombretomado
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** This is a case of learning from experience: The UsefulNotes/{{Nintendo 64}} and UsefulNotes/NintendoGameCube were ultimately perceived by some critics as being only for little kids and hardcore Nintendo fanboys, which resulted in teenagers, adults, and third-party developers going for the PlayStation instead. With the Wii, Nintendo seems to be avoiding this perception. However, a good number of third party developers, mostly in western nations, have either failed or rejected to follow Nintendo's direction, with most of their top tier titles still on Creator/{{Sony}} and [[MicrosoftStudios Microsoft]]'s platforms. That got to change over time: A couple high profile flops on the UsefulNotes/PlayStation3, and the fact that of the largest developers, the ones giving the Wii the least support have been showing losses (Creator/TakeTwoInteractive and Creator/ElectronicArts), while the ones giving the Wii support are doing well ({{Activision}} and {{Ubisoft}}). The CEO of Take Two even said they couldn't ignore the Wii's success anymore.
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** This is a case of learning from experience: The UsefulNotes/{{Nintendo 64}} and UsefulNotes/NintendoGameCube were ultimately perceived by some critics as being only for little kids and hardcore Nintendo fanboys, which resulted in teenagers, adults, and third-party developers going for the PlayStation instead. With the Wii, Nintendo seems to be avoiding this perception. However, a good number of third party developers, mostly in western nations, have either failed or rejected to follow Nintendo's direction, with most of their top tier titles still on Creator/{{Sony}} and [[MicrosoftStudios Microsoft]]'s platforms. That got to change over time: A couple high profile flops on the UsefulNotes/PlayStation3, and the fact that of the largest developers, the ones giving the Wii the least support have been showing losses (Creator/TakeTwoInteractive and Creator/ElectronicArts), while the ones giving the Wii support are doing well ({{Activision}} (Creator/{{Activision}} and {{Ubisoft}}). The CEO of Take Two even said they couldn't ignore the Wii's success anymore.
21st Jan '16 7:39:09 AM Jhonny
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*The German CSU (Christian Social Union, a conservative party) is notorious for doing this. They only exist in Bavaria but caucus together with the CDU (Christian Democrat Union, maybe slightly less conservative) on the federal level. One of the things it is most known for is viciously attacking "Berlin" - ''even while they are in government''. You see, Bavaria has a strong current of people who don't think too highly of the "Prussians" in the rest of Germany and many of them vote CSU...
21st Jan '16 7:35:57 AM Jhonny
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*Look at changes in NFL rules over the last couple of decades. Was there ever a rule change that favored running the ball or defense? The NFL gets ratings with spectacular passes and star Quarterbacks (or so they think) and as such fouls like "Roughing the Passer" and "Pass Interference" are now often mocked as being defined as "looking at one of the stars the wrong way".
14th Jan '16 4:36:51 PM nombretomado
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** The ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' compilation was a way of pandering to the base through the intellectual property, but it also gave SquareEnix developers a chance to try their hand at different genres while still creating popular titles.
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** The ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' compilation was a way of pandering to the base through the intellectual property, but it also gave SquareEnix Creator/SquareEnix developers a chance to try their hand at different genres while still creating popular titles.
11th Jan '16 4:05:07 PM Reymma
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* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion'' shows the audience of the original series many things they wanted see, including: [[spoiler:focusing on Madoka and Homura relationship and having the latter declare her love for the former, '''heavy''' LesYay between Sayaka and Kyoko, showing Charlotte the Witch's human form and giving her an owner-pet like relationship with Mami, having [[DieForOurShip Hitomi]] as an antagonist once]], etc.
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* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion'' shows the audience of the original series many things they wanted see, including: [[spoiler:focusing focusing on Madoka and Homura relationship and having the latter declare her love for the former, up to an open declaration of love, '''heavy''' LesYay between Sayaka and Kyoko, showing [[spoiler:showing Charlotte the Witch's human form and giving her an owner-pet like relationship with Mami, having making [[DieForOurShip Hitomi]] as briefly into an antagonist once]], etc.antagonist, and having Kyubey's evil plan being loudly defeated,]] and throughout showing all five girls attending school with no tears in sight, albeit under ambiguous circumstances.

** Notably averted by Sylvanas, undead high elf leader of the Forsaken. She had a reskinned night elf model for a very long time. While the differences between the races may be subtle to non-fans, people all over seemed to forget her original race, to the point where her night elven look (sometimes complete with unmistakable night elven dress) appeared in the card game, a manga, fan art, and other sources. Luckily for her and long-term fans, she avoided the retcon so many others have suffered due to long misunderstandings, and eventually got a proper, high-quality, high elf model.
11th Jan '16 3:52:39 PM Reymma
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See discussion.
* Many of the {{retcon}}s in the [[VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft Warcraft]] universe seem directly tied to this trope. If a vocal group of the fanbase is mistaken about something, it's more likely for it to be turned into canon than reiterated, resulting in a nest of {{continuity snarl}}s that make the canon into something almost entirely fluid. ** At the end of ''VideoGame/{{Warcraft}} III'', the Alliance and the Horde made peace to fight the greater enemies of the world. While ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' had decided to split the races into these two factions (which apparently was a contentious decision, according to an interview about the early development, with just as many employees against factions at all) and have [[PlayerVersusPlayer PvP]] typical to similar [=MMOs=], the intro specifically mentions that their tenuous pact had ''all but'' vanished, confirming that it still existed (at least for now) and that the current low-intensity conflicts were small deniable brushfires in a kind of cold war scenario. People who didn't understand the phrase "all but" and people who were strongly influenced by how iconic the Humans vs Orcs conflict had been since the series' birth, however, never realized the war had ever ended. Since then, the truce has only been vaguely referenced now and then while even the more diplomatic leaders do little to stop the open fighting. By Cataclysm, it's pretty much all out war again. ** The night elf race itself has suffered greatly due to this trope, with them being marginalized in favor of other things the fans want. Since the vocal fans of ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' either think the night elves are "gay" (which various definitions of the word implied), call them "treehuggers," deride them for being for "kids," or forget about them altogether, Blizzard themselves seems to have forgotten to a point as well. Once one of the major factions in Warcraft III, the night elves in World of Warcraft (especially by Cataclysm) have been pushed back to only a couple of zones, reside in a capital city that was created for ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' (with no explanation about what they did before having this city), were missing their leader and most iconic character (Furion) for six years, and have the shortest race intro that neglects to mention the few things that they still do. Once a feral and mysterious sylvan people, with iconic females and animalistic males, that lived with living trees for buildings, they're now seen as little more than just a generic, purple-skinned elf that is an otherwise unremarkable race in the Alliance. You'd never guess that a game ago they had their own ''entire faction,'' that took on ''both the Alliance and the Horde,'' known as the Sentinels. ** Khadgar, one of the major heroes from Warcraft II, disappeared with his comrades at the end of the expansion. Statues of these heroes were seen in Stormwind in ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'', but we finally got to see (most of) them in Burning Crusade. However, while Khadgar was once a great archmage (trained by the legendary Guardian Medivh himself, whom he eventually helped defeat), he spends the entire expansion acting as little more than a liaison to the newly-invented holy beings the naaru. When it comes time for the organization he once belonged to, the Kirin Tor, to actually be important in Wrath of the Lich King, he's nowhere in sight. The group is also given a new leader from the one presumed in the original game. Not the legendary hero who beat the greatest mage of all time, but the [[MarySue often-mocked]] Rhonin, who we first met when said organization tried getting him killed. Khadgar has not been mentioned since, even when the comics brought back the topic of the Guardian, which Medivh presumably had him in line for at some point (being his apprentice and all). When the fans remember him, it seems he is often referred to in forum posts as being a priest by people who never knew or forgot about the character's past. One wonders how much longer it will be until he is officially retconned into a priest. ** ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft: Cataclysm'' seems to be almost entirely made of this trope. Along with giving the Horde goblins, adding new race/class combinations, and letting players use flying mounts in Azeroth, it uses the ''Burning Crusade''-era {{fan|Wank}} [[EpilepticTrees theory]] ([[RetCon previously dismissed]] due to timeline conflicts) of Gilneas being infested by worgen in order to justify them as the new Alliance race.
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* Many of the {{retcon}}s in the [[VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft Warcraft]] universe seem directly tied to this trope. If a vocal group of the fanbase is mistaken about something, it's more likely for it to be turned into canon than reiterated, resulting in a nest of {{continuity snarl}}s that make the canon into something almost entirely fluid. ** At the end of ''VideoGame/{{Warcraft}} III'', the Alliance and the Horde made peace to fight the greater enemies of the world. While ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' had decided to split the races into these two factions (which apparently was a contentious decision, according to an interview about the early development, with just as many employees against factions at all) and have [[PlayerVersusPlayer PvP]] typical to similar [=MMOs=], the intro specifically mentions that their tenuous pact had ''all but'' vanished, confirming that it still existed (at least for now) and that the current low-intensity conflicts were small deniable brushfires in a kind of cold war scenario. People who didn't understand the phrase "all but" and people who were strongly influenced by how iconic the Humans vs Orcs conflict had been since the series' birth, however, never realized the war had ever ended. Since then, the truce has only been vaguely referenced now and then while even the more diplomatic leaders do little to stop the open fighting. By Cataclysm, it's pretty much all out war again. ** The night elf race itself has suffered greatly due to this trope, with them being marginalized in favor of other things the fans want. Since the vocal fans of ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' either think the night elves are "gay" (which various definitions of the word implied), call them "treehuggers," deride them for being for "kids," or forget about them altogether, Blizzard themselves seems to have forgotten to a point as well. Once one of the major factions in Warcraft III, the night elves in World of Warcraft (especially by Cataclysm) have been pushed back to only a couple of zones, reside in a capital city that was created for ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' (with no explanation about what they did before having this city), were missing their leader and most iconic character (Furion) for six years, and have the shortest race intro that neglects to mention the few things that they still do. Once a feral and mysterious sylvan people, with iconic females and animalistic males, that lived with living trees for buildings, they're now seen as little more than just a generic, purple-skinned elf that is an otherwise unremarkable race in the Alliance. You'd never guess that a game ago they had their own ''entire faction,'' that took on ''both the Alliance and the Horde,'' known as the Sentinels. ** Khadgar, one of the major heroes from Warcraft II, disappeared with his comrades at the end of the expansion. Statues of these heroes were seen in Stormwind in ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'', but we finally got to see (most of) them in Burning Crusade. However, while Khadgar was once a great archmage (trained by the legendary Guardian Medivh himself, whom he eventually helped defeat), he spends the entire expansion acting as little more than a liaison to the newly-invented holy beings the naaru. When it comes time for the organization he once belonged to, the Kirin Tor, to actually be important in Wrath of the Lich King, he's nowhere in sight. The group is also given a new leader from the one presumed in the original game. Not the legendary hero who beat the greatest mage of all time, but the [[MarySue often-mocked]] Rhonin, who we first met when said organization tried getting him killed. Khadgar has not been mentioned since, even when the comics brought back the topic of the Guardian, which Medivh presumably had him in line for at some point (being his apprentice and all). When the fans remember him, it seems he is often referred to in forum posts as being a priest by people who never knew or forgot about the character's past. One wonders how much longer it will be until he is officially retconned into a priest. ** ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft: Cataclysm'' seems to be almost entirely made gave what a contingent of this trope. Along with giving the Horde goblins, adding new race/class combinations, and fans had long wanted: letting players use flying mounts fly in Azeroth, it uses the ''Burning Crusade''-era {{fan|Wank}} [[EpilepticTrees theory]] ([[RetCon previously dismissed]] due to timeline conflicts) of Gilneas being infested by worgen in order new race/class combinations (with controversal lore used to justify them as Tauren paladins), playable Goblins for the new Horde (a much loved race that had until then been kept out of the Horde/Alliance factions), playable Worgen for the Alliance race.(which retconned their somewhat vague origin from alien beings to lycanthropes). ** ''Mists of Pandaria'' turned Garrosh into a full villain, likely influenced by his vast hatedom, and ended with what many of his more vocal haters had asked for since Cataclysm, raising Vol'jin to Warchief.
5th Jan '16 10:44:02 AM MrThorfan64
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** A lot of people think RTD bringing Rose back in S4 and giving her a conveniently human clone of the Doctor was pandering.
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** A lot of people think RTD bringing Rose Tyler back in S4 Series 4 and giving her a conveniently human clone of the Doctor through a massive AssPull was pandering.pandering, many feeling her departure in Series 2 was one of the best companion departures. That said, Rose is already one of the most divisible characters in "Doctor Who".

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** A lot * ''Series/GameOfThrones'' has been accused of people think RTD bringing Rose back this with the additional Tyrell scenes in S4 Season 5 which didn't happen in the books. Margaery Tyrell and giving her a conveniently human clone of grandmother Olenna Tyrell have become quite popular characters and the Doctor was pandering.scenes are well-acted... however, overall they don't contribute much to the plot. Even worse, the writers were already making huge cuts to the material in Season 5, meaning other storylines seriously suffer and feel very rushed.
2nd Jan '16 10:27:50 PM nombretomado
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** This is a case of learning from experience: The UsefulNotes/{{Nintendo 64}} and UsefulNotes/NintendoGameCube were ultimately perceived by some critics as being only for little kids and hardcore Nintendo fanboys, which resulted in teenagers, adults, and third-party developers going for the PlayStation instead. With the Wii, Nintendo seems to be avoiding this perception. However, a good number of third party developers, mostly in western nations, have either failed or rejected to follow Nintendo's direction, with most of their top tier titles still on {{Sony}} and [[MicrosoftStudios Microsoft]]'s platforms. That got to change over time: A couple high profile flops on the PlayStation3, and the fact that of the largest developers, the ones giving the Wii the least support have been showing losses (Creator/TakeTwoInteractive and Creator/ElectronicArts), while the ones giving the Wii support are doing well ({{Activision}} and {{Ubisoft}}). The CEO of Take Two even said they couldn't ignore the Wii's success anymore.
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** This is a case of learning from experience: The UsefulNotes/{{Nintendo 64}} and UsefulNotes/NintendoGameCube were ultimately perceived by some critics as being only for little kids and hardcore Nintendo fanboys, which resulted in teenagers, adults, and third-party developers going for the PlayStation instead. With the Wii, Nintendo seems to be avoiding this perception. However, a good number of third party developers, mostly in western nations, have either failed or rejected to follow Nintendo's direction, with most of their top tier titles still on {{Sony}} Creator/{{Sony}} and [[MicrosoftStudios Microsoft]]'s platforms. That got to change over time: A couple high profile flops on the PlayStation3, UsefulNotes/PlayStation3, and the fact that of the largest developers, the ones giving the Wii the least support have been showing losses (Creator/TakeTwoInteractive and Creator/ElectronicArts), while the ones giving the Wii support are doing well ({{Activision}} and {{Ubisoft}}). The CEO of Take Two even said they couldn't ignore the Wii's success anymore.
26th Dec '15 10:36:52 AM MyFinalEdits
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The developers have stated clearly that the art style wasn't deliberately influenced by any previous style, but rather by the enemy designs and the swordplay. Besides, even TWW fans trashed the graphics of SS
** And when fans who preferred the ''Wind Waker'' route criticized ''Twilight Princess'' for its RealIsBrown style, the following game, ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword Skyward Sword]]'', was made with a deliberate merging of the two styles so that both camps of fans could be satisfied.
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