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28th Jul '16 12:26:53 AM Anddrix
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* Kenjiro Hata seems to have a good handle on this trope. When [[BaseBreaker Athena]] was introduced in ''Manga/HayateTheCombatButler'', the fandom exploded with praise for how the story had changed for the serious and the better character introduction. Since her arcs ended, and Athena faded back into the background, the fandom has returned to the less vocal minority, and Hata has made note how he's happy the story has returned to it's normal functioning many times.

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* Kenjiro Hata seems to have a good handle on this trope. When [[BaseBreaker Athena]] Athena was introduced in ''Manga/HayateTheCombatButler'', the fandom exploded with praise for how the story had changed for the serious and the better character introduction. Since her arcs ended, and Athena faded back into the background, the fandom has returned to the less vocal minority, and Hata has made note how he's happy the story has returned to it's normal functioning many times.



** [[Creator/FeliciaDay Charlie Bradbury]] has been accused of this as well. The writers attempted to sidestep the DieForOurShip issues that plagued other female characters by making her a lesbian. When she proved to be a BaseBreaker, the writers went out of their way to give her more focus and repeatedly (offscreen) take levels in badass in a very jarring manner, leading to her being called a CreatorsPet by detractors. Even those that like her often think she comes across as the creators trying too hard to make an EnsembleDarkhorse.

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** [[Creator/FeliciaDay Charlie Bradbury]] has been accused of this as well. The writers attempted to sidestep the DieForOurShip issues that plagued other female characters by making her a lesbian. When she proved to be a BaseBreaker, BaseBreakingCharacter, the writers went out of their way to give her more focus and repeatedly (offscreen) take levels in badass in a very jarring manner, leading to her being called a CreatorsPet by detractors. Even those that like her often think she comes across as the creators trying too hard to make an EnsembleDarkhorse.



** Sonic Team has done this when it comes to Franchise/{{Sonic|TheHedgehog}}'s rival Shadow. When he proved to be [[EnsembleDarkhorse popular]], his apparent death in ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure2'' was {{retcon}}ned to him surviving with amnesia, and much of the plot focus was put on him in ''VideoGame/SonicHeroes''. He even got [[VideoGame/ShadowTheHedgehog a game centered entirely on him]] intended to resolve his plot arc. This made him a BaseBreaker, dividing him between fans who are still happy with him being around and fans who consider him a [[SpotlightStealingSquad spotlight stealing squad]].

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** Sonic Team has done this when it comes to Franchise/{{Sonic|TheHedgehog}}'s rival Shadow. When he proved to be [[EnsembleDarkhorse popular]], his apparent death in ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure2'' was {{retcon}}ned to him surviving with amnesia, and much of the plot focus was put on him in ''VideoGame/SonicHeroes''. He even got [[VideoGame/ShadowTheHedgehog a game centered entirely on him]] intended to resolve his plot arc. This made him a BaseBreaker, BaseBreakingCharacter, dividing him between fans who are still happy with him being around and fans who consider him a [[SpotlightStealingSquad spotlight stealing squad]].



** There also are several nods to the ''[=MvC2=]'' community, ''especially'' [[FountainOfMemes EMP Yipes]] and '''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZZUMjoxfZA MAHVEL,]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6ga9Jvdw9U BAYBEE!]]'''. Three of the [[FanNickname Four]] [[GameBreaker Gods]] (ComicBook/{{Magneto}}, ComicBook/{{Storm}}, and--[[BaseBreaker to the anger of some]]--Sentinel) are back, Magneto and Sent have their '''[[MemeticMutation MAG]]-[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKIN']]-[[MemeticMutation NETO]]''' and '''[[MemeticMutation DAT MANGO SENTINEL]]''' custom colors as actual outfits, {{Deadpool}} has a win quote against Magneto [[AscendedMeme referencing this]] ([[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxAbRmOiqvo&t=03m23s "I just beat Mag-freakin'-neto! Where yo curleh mustache at?!"]]), and [[MemeticMutation Pringles]] have been prizes.

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** There also are several nods to the ''[=MvC2=]'' community, ''especially'' [[FountainOfMemes EMP Yipes]] and '''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZZUMjoxfZA MAHVEL,]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6ga9Jvdw9U BAYBEE!]]'''. Three of the [[FanNickname Four]] [[GameBreaker Gods]] (ComicBook/{{Magneto}}, ComicBook/{{Storm}}, and--[[BaseBreaker to and--to the anger of some]]--Sentinel) some--Sentinel) are back, Magneto and Sent have their '''[[MemeticMutation MAG]]-[[PrecisionFStrike FUCKIN']]-[[MemeticMutation NETO]]''' and '''[[MemeticMutation DAT MANGO SENTINEL]]''' custom colors as actual outfits, {{Deadpool}} has a win quote against Magneto [[AscendedMeme referencing this]] ([[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxAbRmOiqvo&t=03m23s "I just beat Mag-freakin'-neto! Where yo curleh mustache at?!"]]), and [[MemeticMutation Pringles]] have been prizes.
22nd Jul '16 4:46:33 AM Sabrewing
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* The "Citadel" DLC for ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'' is one giant opportunity for ''Mass Effect'' fans to put aside the series of {{Player Punch}}es that comprise the plot of ''3'' and reunite for one last grand hurrah with all their previous squadmates, with touching {{Callback}}s and {{Continuity Nod}}s galore.

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* The "Citadel" DLC for ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'' is one giant opportunity for ''Mass Effect'' fans to put aside the series of {{Player Punch}}es that comprise the plot of ''3'' and reunite for one last grand hurrah with all their previous squadmates, with touching {{Callback}}s and {{Continuity Nod}}s galore. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, it's a party that Mordin, Thane and Legion aren't allowed to attend.]]
22nd Jul '16 4:13:34 AM tropeminer
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** The destruction of the USS ''Enterprise'' (again) was possibly done in response to the generally unsatisfactory reception to the ship's design.

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** The destruction of the USS ''Enterprise'' (again) was possibly done in response to the generally unsatisfactory fan reception to the ship's design.
19th Jul '16 5:53:10 AM Medinoc
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** Another feature of how Congressional districts are distributed is that by this point almost every district in the country is safe for either a Republican or Democrat candidate. This means that it is quite common for the district to elect a candidate who not only is extreme by national standards, but can be an extremist even by the standards of the state.

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** Another feature of how Congressional districts are distributed is that by this point almost every district in the country is safe for either a Republican or Democrat candidate. This Combined with the primary system, this means that it is quite common for the district to elect a candidate who not only is extreme by national standards, but can be an extremist even by the standards of the state.
18th Jul '16 3:45:48 PM dreamlands
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** Claire, a transgender character to appeal to the ever growing number of {{tumblr}} LGBT community viewers of the comic.

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** Claire, a transgender character to appeal to the ever growing number of {{tumblr}} LGBT community viewers readers of the comic.
10th Jul '16 12:54:28 PM Steven
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** ''VideoGame/ShadowTheHedgehog'' had Shadow swearing (though he usually just said damn and nothing greater than that), using guns, riding motorcycles, and fighting aliens to save the world. The developers stated that the game was made with those specific elements since they were trying to cater to Western audiences, but this backfired greatly and caused both critics and fans to heavily pan the game for drifting away from the things that made ''Sonic'' games good in the first place.
9th Jul '16 11:25:20 AM nombretomado
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* In its later days, ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'' practically ran on this, by having many story elements, from names of fictional animals all the way to upcoming characters and even ENTIRE story threads depend on the decisions made by fans (more specifically, only the members of Website/BZPower). Even the most minor, insignificant details that didn't affect the story in the ''least'' got explanations that, more often than not, were needless and/or ridiculous. It didn't help that many fans had a blase attitude on that site, which meant that more critical fans (some of whom didn't even visit the site out of spite) tended to get overshadowed by their votes. Yes, they had polls on what to make canon, because the situation was getting too out of hand, and this trend still continues even after the line has been canceled and rebooted with a new canon. Though the writer was denied further access to the site due to a new policy, fans have continued pestering him on the official LEGO Message Board, where he continued giving the OK to the ideas of a select few BZP members (this time mostly without polls), retroactively adding needless details to the abandoned story of the original canon. This has also lead to some amount of fan controversy. As for [[Franchise/{{Bionicle2015}} the reboot]], it so far offers [[MythologyGag little nods and visual references]], as well as curious {{easter egg}}s featuring the Mask of Time hidden in the scenery to keep older fans interested.

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* In its later days, ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'' ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'' practically ran on this, by having many story elements, from names of fictional animals all the way to upcoming characters and even ENTIRE story threads depend on the decisions made by fans (more specifically, only the members of Website/BZPower). Even the most minor, insignificant details that didn't affect the story in the ''least'' got explanations that, more often than not, were needless and/or ridiculous. It didn't help that many fans had a blase attitude on that site, which meant that more critical fans (some of whom didn't even visit the site out of spite) tended to get overshadowed by their votes. Yes, they had polls on what to make canon, because the situation was getting too out of hand, and this trend still continues even after the line has been canceled and rebooted with a new canon. Though the writer was denied further access to the site due to a new policy, fans have continued pestering him on the official LEGO Message Board, where he continued giving the OK to the ideas of a select few BZP members (this time mostly without polls), retroactively adding needless details to the abandoned story of the original canon. This has also lead to some amount of fan controversy. As for [[Franchise/{{Bionicle2015}} the reboot]], it so far offers [[MythologyGag little nods and visual references]], as well as curious {{easter egg}}s featuring the Mask of Time hidden in the scenery to keep older fans interested.
2nd Jul '16 12:14:51 AM tropeminer
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* ''[[Film/TheForceAwakens Episode VII: The Force Awakens]]'' does this with its heavier emphasis on practical effects, and closer look and feel to the original trilogy. Ironically, the special effects reel revealed that the film actually didn't use less special effects than the prequels, and shot-for-shot actually contains ''more'' CGI than ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'' does. The difference mostly just comes from smarter use and ten+ years of technology making ConspicuousCGI less of a problem. So in this case, it's more of just telling the base what they want to hear than actually pandering to them.

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* ''StarWars'' ''[[Film/TheForceAwakens Episode VII: The Force Awakens]]'' does this with its heavier emphasis on practical effects, and closer look and feel to the original trilogy. Ironically, the special effects reel revealed that the film actually didn't use less special effects than the prequels, and shot-for-shot actually contains ''more'' CGI than ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'' does. The difference mostly just comes from smarter use and ten+ years of technology making ConspicuousCGI less of a problem. So in this case, it's more of just telling the base what they want to hear than actually pandering to them.
2nd Jul '16 12:12:52 AM tropeminer
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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XRVD32rnzOw The first trailer]] was criticized by fans and even some creators for being "way too action-oriented" or for "having a ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'' vibe" (like that's a bad thing?) with Music/{{Beastie Boys}}' "Sabotage" playing in the background[[note]]which was a CallBack to Kirk's childhood in the first movie[[/note]] as well as "not being ''Star Trek''" from [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks what they've come to know it as]]. This was despite how well the trailer kept with the tone set by the [[Film/StarTrek last]] [[Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness two]] movies. Many blamed Creator/{{Paramount}} for hiring Creator/JustinLin[[note]]a self-admitted {{Trekkie}}[[/note]], who previously did ''Film/{{The Fast and the Furious}}' 3-6'', as director to "explicitly make it [[ActionizedSequel actionized]] at the expense of the [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries source material]]", even though [[Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan many]] [[Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry beloved]] [[Film/StarTrekFirstContact entries]] in the series did the exact same thing. The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Tvq3y8BhZ2s second trailer]] was much more well-recieved; having being seen as "an improvement" as it seemingly had more gravitas and sincerity. Keep in mind these were only the '''trailers''' and not the actual movie.

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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XRVD32rnzOw The first trailer]] was unfairly criticized by fans and (and even some creators creators) for being "way too action-oriented" or for "having a ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'' vibe" (like that's a bad thing?) with Music/{{Beastie Boys}}' "Sabotage" playing in the background[[note]]which was a CallBack to Kirk's childhood in the first movie[[/note]] as well as "not being ''Star Trek''" from [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks what they've come to know it as]]. This was despite how well the trailer kept with the tone set by the [[Film/StarTrek last]] [[Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness two]] movies. Many blamed Creator/{{Paramount}} for hiring Creator/JustinLin[[note]]a self-admitted {{Trekkie}}[[/note]], who previously did ''Film/{{The Fast and the Furious}}' 3-6'', as director to "explicitly make it [[ActionizedSequel actionized]] at the expense of the [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries source material]]", even though [[Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan many]] [[Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry beloved]] [[Film/StarTrekFirstContact entries]] in the series did the exact same thing. The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Tvq3y8BhZ2s second trailer]] was second]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MBXBMkcUNo third]] trailers were much more well-recieved; having being seen as "an improvement" "improvements" as it they seemingly had more gravitas and sincerity. Keep in mind these were only the '''trailers''' and not the actual movie.
28th Jun '16 8:54:59 AM Glowsquid
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* A former employee of Creator/{{Irem}}'s arcade division blame this phenomenon as one of the reason behind the company's downfall in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDXl1-tkUC0 this video]]. Basically: Instead of using "regular" players for location-testing, Irem had their arcade games tested by fans of the company's previous games and hardcore fans of arcade gaming in general, who were much more skilled than the average player. These way above-average gamers made the games look "too easy" during testing so Irem adjusted the difficulty accordingly, but in tuning the game around the top 1%, Irem made the games [[NintendoHard too difficult]] to appeal to the average arcade-goer.
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