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19th Jan '17 3:31:13 AM InfiniXtive
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* And Another Thing by Eoin Colfer, a book continuing the Hitchhiker's Guide series, is littered with references to the books Douglas Adams wrote. It is a fun book with some interesting ideas, but it could be convincingly argued that it contained far more call backs than were sensible for no other reason than to cater to fans who simply have to see the phrase Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster on every other page.

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* And Another Thing by Eoin Colfer, a book continuing the Hitchhiker's Guide series, is littered with references to the books Douglas Adams wrote. It is a fun book with some interesting ideas, but it could be convincingly argued that it contained far more call backs than were sensible for no other reason than to cater to fans who simply have to see the phrase Pan-Galactic "Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster Blaster" on every other page.
19th Jan '17 3:29:40 AM InfiniXtive
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*And Another Thing by Eoin Colfer, a book continuing the Hitchhiker's Guide series, is littered with references to the books Douglas Adams wrote. It is a fun book with some interesting ideas, but it could be convincingly argued that it contained far more call backs than were sensible for no other reason than to cater to fans who simply have to see the phrase Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster on every other page.
8th Jan '17 3:09:33 PM nombretomado
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** To an extent {{Marvel|Comics}} managed this with their {{Ultimate|Marvel}}s remake. It simplifies plots of the original comics, for good or for bad, but if you come to it without preconceptions, it actually reads pretty well, at least till you get to ''[[CrisisCrossover Ultimatum]]''

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** To an extent {{Marvel|Comics}} Creator/{{Marvel|Comics}} managed this with their {{Ultimate|Marvel}}s ComicBook/{{Ultimate|Marvel}}s remake. It simplifies plots of the original comics, for good or for bad, but if you come to it without preconceptions, it actually reads pretty well, at least till you get to ''[[CrisisCrossover Ultimatum]]''
30th Oct '16 9:22:28 PM tropeminer
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** [[spoiler:The design of the alternate reality's USS ''Enterprise''-A, revealed in the final scene, is marginally closer to Matt Jeffries' iconic ''Enterprise'' from ''[[StarTrekTheOriginalSeries The Original Series]]'' in comparison to the previous ship. This is possibly in response to the fans' overall dissatisfaction of the previous ship's look despite how it was an awesome starship that was fairly faithful to the original.]]

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** [[spoiler:The design of the alternate reality's USS ''Enterprise''-A, revealed in the final scene, is marginally closer to Matt Jeffries' iconic ''Enterprise'' from ''[[StarTrekTheOriginalSeries The Original Series]]'' in comparison to the previous ship. This is possibly in response to the fans' overall dissatisfaction of the previous ship's look despite how it was being an awesome starship that was fairly faithful respectful to the original.]]
30th Oct '16 9:13:30 PM tropeminer
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** [[spoiler:The design of the alternate reality's USS ''Enterprise''-A, revealed in the final scene, is marginally closer to Matt Jeffries' iconic ''Enterprise'' from ''[[StarTrekTheOriginalSeries The Original Series]]'' in comparison to the previous ship. This is most likely in response to the fan's overall dissatisfaction of the previous ship's look despite how it was an awesome starship that was fairly faithful to the original.]]

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** [[spoiler:The design of the alternate reality's USS ''Enterprise''-A, revealed in the final scene, is marginally closer to Matt Jeffries' iconic ''Enterprise'' from ''[[StarTrekTheOriginalSeries The Original Series]]'' in comparison to the previous ship. This is most likely possibly in response to the fan's fans' overall dissatisfaction of the previous ship's look despite how it was an awesome starship that was fairly faithful to the original.]]
29th Oct '16 8:59:53 AM Lemia
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** [[Creator/FeliciaDay Charlie Bradbury]] has been accused of this as well. The writers attempted to sidestep the DieForOurShip issues that plagued other female characters by making her a lesbian. When she proved to be a BaseBreakingCharacter, the writers went out of their way to give her more focus and repeatedly (offscreen) take levels in badass in a very jarring manner, leading to her being called a CreatorsPet by detractors. Even those that like her often think she comes across as the creators trying too hard to make an EnsembleDarkhorse.

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** [[Creator/FeliciaDay Charlie Bradbury]] has been was accused of this as well.too. The writers attempted to sidestep the DieForOurShip issues that plagued other female characters by making her a lesbian. When she proved to be a BaseBreakingCharacter, the writers went out of their way to give her more focus and repeatedly (offscreen) take levels in badass in a very jarring manner, leading to her being called a CreatorsPet by detractors. Even those that like who liked her often think thought that she comes came across as the creators trying too hard to make an EnsembleDarkhorse.EnsembleDarkhorse. [[spoiler:Then they killed her off, which effectively pissed off the fans who ''did'' like the way she had been written.]]
28th Oct '16 11:21:23 PM tropeminer
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** [[spoiler:The design of the alternate reality's USS ''Enterprise''-A, revealed in the final scene, is marginally closer to Matt Jeffries' iconic ''Enterprise'' from ''StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' in comparison to the previous ship. This, as well as probably the destruction of this timeline's initial ''Enterprise'' (as seen in the trailers), are most likely in response to the fan's dissatisfaction of the previous ship's overall look despite the fact that it was an awesome starship and fairly faithful to the original.]]

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** [[spoiler:The design of the alternate reality's USS ''Enterprise''-A, revealed in the final scene, is marginally closer to Matt Jeffries' iconic ''Enterprise'' from ''StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' ''[[StarTrekTheOriginalSeries The Original Series]]'' in comparison to the previous ship. This, as well as probably the destruction of this timeline's initial ''Enterprise'' (as seen in the trailers), are This is most likely in response to the fan's overall dissatisfaction of the previous ship's overall look despite the fact that how it was an awesome starship and that was fairly faithful to the original.]]
28th Oct '16 11:13:30 PM tropeminer
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** [[spoiler:The design of the alternate reality's USS ''Enterprise''-A, revealed in the final scene, is marginally closer to Matt Jeffries' iconic ''Enterprise'' from ''StarTrekTheOriginalSeries''. This, as well as probably the destruction of this timeline's initial ''Enterprise'', are most likely in response to the fan's dissatisfaction of the previous ship's overall look despite the fact that it was an awesome starship.]]
* After the backlash against ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' for being too grim and the extremely positive fan reaction to ''Film/SuicideSquad'''s much more fun-looking trailers, WB reshooted parts of ''Suicide Squad'' to be more like the trailers. Fans differ greatly on whether or not this was a good choice, but a number generally agree that the reshoots caused the film to have a distractingly uneven tone and inconsistent editing.

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** [[spoiler:The design of the alternate reality's USS ''Enterprise''-A, revealed in the final scene, is marginally closer to Matt Jeffries' iconic ''Enterprise'' from ''StarTrekTheOriginalSeries''. ''StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' in comparison to the previous ship. This, as well as probably the destruction of this timeline's initial ''Enterprise'', ''Enterprise'' (as seen in the trailers), are most likely in response to the fan's dissatisfaction of the previous ship's overall look despite the fact that it was an awesome starship.starship and fairly faithful to the original.]]
* After the backlash against ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' for being too grim and the extremely positive fan reaction to ''Film/SuicideSquad'''s much more fun-looking trailers, WB reshooted reshot parts of ''Suicide Squad'' to be more like the trailers. Fans differ greatly on whether or not this was a good choice, but a number generally agree that the reshoots caused the film to have a distractingly uneven tone and inconsistent editing.
28th Oct '16 11:07:44 PM tropeminer
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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XRVD32rnzOw The first trailer]] was unfairly criticized by fans (and even some creators) for being "way too action-oriented" or for "having a ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'' vibe" (like that's a bad thing?) with Music/{{Beastie Boys}}' "Sabotage" playing in the background[[note]]which was a CallBack to Kirk's childhood in the first movie[[/note]] as well as "not being ''Star Trek''" from [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks what they've come to know it as]]. This was despite how well the trailer kept with the tone set by the [[Film/StarTrek last]] [[Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness two]] movies. Many blamed Creator/{{Paramount}} for hiring Creator/JustinLin[[note]]a self-admitted {{Trekkie}}[[/note]], who previously did ''Film/{{The Fast and the Furious}}' 3-6'', as director to "explicitly make it [[ActionizedSequel actionized]] at the expense of the [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries source material]]", even though [[Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan many]] [[Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry beloved]] [[Film/StarTrekFirstContact entries]] in the series did the exact same thing. The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Tvq3y8BhZ2s second]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MBXBMkcUNo third]] trailers were much more well-recieved; having being seen as "improvements" as they seemingly had more gravitas and sincerity. Keep in mind these were only the '''trailers''' and not the actual movie.

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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XRVD32rnzOw The first trailer]] was unfairly criticized by fans (and even some creators) for being "way too action-oriented" or for "having a ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'' vibe" (like that's a bad thing?) with Music/{{Beastie Boys}}' "Sabotage" playing in the background[[note]]which was a CallBack to Kirk's childhood in the first movie[[/note]] as well as "not being ''Star Trek''" from [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks what they've come to know it as]]. This was despite how well the trailer kept with the tone set by the [[Film/StarTrek last]] [[Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness two]] movies. Many blamed Creator/{{Paramount}} for hiring Creator/JustinLin[[note]]a self-admitted {{Trekkie}}[[/note]], who previously did ''Film/{{The Fast and the Furious}}' 3-6'', as director to "explicitly make it [[ActionizedSequel actionized]] at the expense of the [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries source material]]", even though [[Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan many]] [[Film/StarTrekVITheUndiscoveredCountry beloved]] [[Film/StarTrekFirstContact entries]] in the series did the exact same thing. The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Tvq3y8BhZ2s second]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MBXBMkcUNo third]] trailers were much more well-recieved; having being seen as "improvements" as they seemingly had more gravitas and sincerity. Keep in mind these were only the '''trailers''' and not the actual movie.movie[[note]]which ''unsurprisingly'' turned out [[https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_trek_beyond/ to be well received]][[/note]].
** [[spoiler:The design of the alternate reality's USS ''Enterprise''-A, revealed in the final scene, is marginally closer to Matt Jeffries' iconic ''Enterprise'' from ''StarTrekTheOriginalSeries''. This, as well as probably the destruction of this timeline's initial ''Enterprise'', are most likely in response to the fan's dissatisfaction of the previous ship's overall look despite the fact that it was an awesome starship.]]
25th Oct '16 4:56:22 AM Korodzik
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** The [[MilestoneCelebration 100th episode]], which is titled "SliceOfLife". Involves the main characters being busy dealing with a monster while the episode itself focuses on characters that are considered very popular {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}s in the fanbase, which includes characters like Derpy, Doctor Whooves, Vinyl Scratch, Octavia and others. The episode even explained Lyra and Bon-Bon as best friends. This is an example of pandering because fans gave them attention back in season one.(Unfortunately, fans still romantically ship [[FanPreferredCouple Lyra/Bon-Bon ]] despite the friendship canon.) The fact that the monster is [[PandaingToTheAudience part panda]] may be some kind of a StealthPun.

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** The [[MilestoneCelebration 100th episode]], which is titled "SliceOfLife". Involves the main characters being busy dealing with a monster--the fact that the monster while is [[PandaingToTheAudience part panda]] may be some kind of a StealthPun--while the episode itself focuses on characters that are considered very popular {{Ensemble Darkhorse}}s in the fanbase, which includes characters like Derpy, Doctor Whooves, Vinyl Scratch, Octavia and others. The episode even explained Furthermore, it canonizes several elements of {{Fanon}}, such as [[FanNickname Steven Magnet's name]], Vinyl and Octavia living together in Ponyville, and Derpy being a mailpony. It also includes Lyra and Bon-Bon as best friends. This is an example of pandering because fans gave them attention back in season one.(Unfortunately, fans still romantically ship Bon-Bon, who are often [[FanPreferredCouple Lyra/Bon-Bon ]] despite shipped together]] in the friendship canon.) The fact fandom; the episode explains them as simply being best friends ([[ShippingGoggles not that the monster is [[PandaingToTheAudience part panda]] may be some kind shippers care, of course]])... however, it also had them bicker LikeAnOldMarriedCouple in a StealthPun.subtle reference to how often they're shipped.
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