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23rd Oct '17 12:16:50 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* Vampires are almost always [[SuperStrength inhumanly strong]], [[SuperSpeed fast]], and [[SuperTough durable]], often to the point of being ImmuneToBullets and most other mundane weapons. For some, especially more modern ones, this is where it ends, making them effectively little more than intelligent (and stylish) super-zombies.

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* Vampires are almost always [[SuperStrength inhumanly strong]], [[SuperSpeed fast]], and [[SuperTough [[SuperToughness durable]], often to the point of being ImmuneToBullets and most other mundane weapons. For some, especially more modern ones, this is where it ends, making them effectively little more than intelligent (and stylish) super-zombies.
22nd Oct '17 6:24:36 PM NyxShadowhawk
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* TheUndead: Technically, they are dead. Pretty spry for a dead guy, though. The idea that they're dead originated from a misunderstanding; they were said to be ''undying'', i.e. immortal. This got corrupted into undead, which was taken to mean they were living corpses. Alternatively, they may be perfectly alive, just of a different species, like werewolves.

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* TheUndead: Technically, they are dead. Pretty spry for a dead guy, though. The idea that they're dead originated from a misunderstanding; they were said to be ''undying'', i.e. immortal. This got corrupted into undead, which was taken to mean they were living corpses. Alternatively, they may be perfectly alive, just of a different species, like werewolves.
31st Aug '17 3:07:11 PM ProfessorDetective
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** [[MissingReflection No reflection]] (often because the vampire [[OurSoulsAreDifferent has no soul]], but see below). This sometimes extends to [[CastsNoShadow shadows]]. But it depends on the vampire apparently. In one medium there are several ''types'' of vamps who have various weaknesses. In more recent examples this has been 'modernized' in terms of the vampire not being able to be picked up by audio or video recording or transmitting equipment. The original reason for this is because early mirrors contained silver, and older cameras had mirrors ''and'' made use of silver in the film chemicals. With modern mirrors [[TechnologyMarches using cheaper aluminum and most cameras being digital now]]], this aspect of vampirism isn't as common as it once was.

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** [[MissingReflection No reflection]] (often because the vampire [[OurSoulsAreDifferent has no soul]], but see below). This sometimes extends to [[CastsNoShadow shadows]]. But it depends on the vampire apparently. In one medium there are several ''types'' of vamps who have various weaknesses. In more recent examples this has been 'modernized' in terms of the vampire not being able to be picked up by audio or video recording or transmitting equipment. The original reason for this is because early mirrors contained silver, and older cameras had mirrors ''and'' made use of silver in the film chemicals. With modern mirrors [[TechnologyMarches [[TechnologyMarchesOn using cheaper aluminum and most cameras being digital now]]], this aspect of vampirism isn't as common as it once was.
23rd Aug '17 5:13:25 PM DesertDragon
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** [[HolyBurnsEvil Crosses]], and possibly other religious symbols depending on the belief of the weilder. Originally, it had to be a full-blown crucifix (that is, a cross with a figure of Jesus on it). In modern renditions, this is usually subject to [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve the power of belief]] of the wielder, the vampire, both, or neither. For instance, if a character is a devout Jew, then they could use the Star of David to ward off a vampire, and in one ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode, a devoted [[UsefulNotes/RedsWithRockets Red Army]] member used a Soviet star to repel vampires. Then you can have a vampire who carries his own crucifix, as he is a believer too, like Henry Fitzroy in ''Blood Ties''. He also prays and goes to confession (he figures that he is subject to the same sins as humans, and needs to do penance for them). Fortunately, he is a FriendlyNeighborhoodVampire. In other cases, the religion the symbol represents has to have been around during the vampire's lifetime to have any effect. If a vampire predates all modern religions, don't go reaching for your crucifix.
** Religious ''music'' can have this effect too. In ''Film/VampireInBrooklyn'', when Maximilian impersonates the heroine's pastor, the gospel choir's singing seems to cause him pain. And in ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheMasquerade'', it's suggested that Native American tribal chants and drums can drive off vampires.

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** [[HolyBurnsEvil Crosses]], and possibly other religious symbols depending on the belief of the weilder.wielder. Originally, it had to be a full-blown crucifix (that is, a cross with a figure of Jesus on it). In modern renditions, this is usually subject to [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve the power of belief]] of the wielder, the vampire, both, or neither. For instance, if a character is a devout Jew, then they could use the Star of David to ward off a vampire, and in one ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode, a devoted [[UsefulNotes/RedsWithRockets Red Army]] member used a Soviet star to repel vampires. Then you can have a vampire who carries his own crucifix, as he is a believer too, like Henry Fitzroy in ''Blood Ties''. He also prays and goes to confession (he figures that he is subject to the same sins as humans, and needs to do penance for them). Fortunately, he is a FriendlyNeighborhoodVampire. In But sometimes just being in an old church or some other cases, holy ground can harm the vampire even if no living person is present. Sometimes, the religion the symbol represents has symbols represent have to have been around during the vampire's lifetime to have any effect. If a vampire predates all modern religions, don't go reaching for your crucifix.
** Religious ''music'' can have this effect too. In ''Film/VampireInBrooklyn'', when Maximilian impersonates the heroine's pastor, the gospel choir's singing seems to cause singing---even humming--causes him pain. discomfort. And in ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheMasquerade'', ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheApocalypse'', it's suggested that Native American tribal chants songs and drums can drive off away vampires.



** Garlic or Onions, although this was more to ward off vampires, not harm them, Mustard seed for Arabian Vampires who are Djinn augmented Humans to start with..

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** Garlic or Onions, although this was more to ward off vampires, not harm them, Mustard seed for Arabian Vampires who are Djinn augmented Djinn-augmented Humans to start with..
23rd Aug '17 4:58:25 PM DesertDragon
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** You can also have a critter that sucks out someone's [[LifeDrinker youth]], [[LifeEnergy lifeforce]], [[YourSoulIsMine soul]], willpower, chi, [[EmotionEater fear]], etc. [[BuffySpeak It's a whole big sucking thing]]. Some settings may even have different breeds of vampire based on their "diet."

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** You can also have a critter that sucks out someone's [[LifeDrinker youth]], [[LifeEnergy lifeforce]], [[YourSoulIsMine soul]], willpower, chi, [[EmotionEater fear]], etc. [[BuffySpeak It's a whole big sucking thing]]. Some settings like ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'' may even have different breeds of vampire based on their "diet."
23rd Aug '17 2:46:19 PM DesertDragon
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** [[HolyBurnsEvil Crosses]], but not necessarily other religious symbols. Originally, it had to be a full-blown crucifix (that is, a cross with a figure of Jesus on it). In modern renditions, this is usually subject to [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve the power of belief]] of the wielder, the vampire, both, or neither. For instance, if a character is a sincere Jew, then they could use the Star of David to ward off a vampire, and in one ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode, a devoted [[UsefulNotes/RedsWithRockets Red Army]] member used a Soviet star to repel vampires. Then you can have a vampire who carries his own crucifix, as he is a believer too, like Henry Fitzroy in ''Blood Ties''. He also prays and goes to confession (he figures that he is subject to the same sins as humans, and needs to do penance for them). Fortunately, he is a FriendlyNeighborhoodVampire. In other cases, the religion the symbol represents has to have been around during the vampire's lifetime to have any effect. If a vampire predates all modern religions, don't go reaching for your crucifix.

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** [[HolyBurnsEvil Crosses]], but not necessarily and possibly other religious symbols.symbols depending on the belief of the weilder. Originally, it had to be a full-blown crucifix (that is, a cross with a figure of Jesus on it). In modern renditions, this is usually subject to [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve the power of belief]] of the wielder, the vampire, both, or neither. For instance, if a character is a sincere devout Jew, then they could use the Star of David to ward off a vampire, and in one ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode, a devoted [[UsefulNotes/RedsWithRockets Red Army]] member used a Soviet star to repel vampires. Then you can have a vampire who carries his own crucifix, as he is a believer too, like Henry Fitzroy in ''Blood Ties''. He also prays and goes to confession (he figures that he is subject to the same sins as humans, and needs to do penance for them). Fortunately, he is a FriendlyNeighborhoodVampire. In other cases, the religion the symbol represents has to have been around during the vampire's lifetime to have any effect. If a vampire predates all modern religions, don't go reaching for your crucifix.crucifix.
** Religious ''music'' can have this effect too. In ''Film/VampireInBrooklyn'', when Maximilian impersonates the heroine's pastor, the gospel choir's singing seems to cause him pain. And in ''TabletopGame/WerewolfTheMasquerade'', it's suggested that Native American tribal chants and drums can drive off vampires.



** [[MissingReflection No reflection]] (often because the vampire [[OurSoulsAreDifferent has no soul]], but see below). This sometimes extends to [[CastsNoShadow shadows]]. But it depends on the vampire apparently. In one medium there are several ''types'' of vamps who have various weaknesses. In more recent examples this has been 'modernized' in terms of the vampire not being able to be picked up by audio or video recording or transmitting equipment.
** No heartbeat/breath. Sometimes the no breath thing means they can't do mouth-to-mouth resuscitation, but if they can talk, they must be able to take air into their lungs and expel it intentionally. Little logic problem there, but we're talking about ''vampires'' so logic should take the day off. However, as vampires do not need to breathe, it seems to be a reflex they have left over from being alive hence they can never drown, suffocate, or be poisoned.

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** [[MissingReflection No reflection]] (often because the vampire [[OurSoulsAreDifferent has no soul]], but see below). This sometimes extends to [[CastsNoShadow shadows]]. But it depends on the vampire apparently. In one medium there are several ''types'' of vamps who have various weaknesses. In more recent examples this has been 'modernized' in terms of the vampire not being able to be picked up by audio or video recording or transmitting equipment.
equipment. The original reason for this is because early mirrors contained silver, and older cameras had mirrors ''and'' made use of silver in the film chemicals. With modern mirrors [[TechnologyMarches using cheaper aluminum and most cameras being digital now]]], this aspect of vampirism isn't as common as it once was.
** No heartbeat/breath. Sometimes the no breath thing means They still have functioning lungs, since they must take breaths to speak, but they have no fear of drowning and can't do mouth-to-mouth resuscitation, but if they can talk, they must be able to take air into their lungs and expel it intentionally. Little logic problem there, but we're talking about ''vampires'' so logic should take the day off. However, as vampires do not need to breathe, it seems to be a reflex they have left over from being alive hence they can never drown, suffocate, or be poisoned.detected by heartbeat.
23rd Aug '17 2:32:46 PM DesertDragon
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** White roses / roses in general (might have connection with beliefs that roses will not grow over grave). According to ''Dracula'', a branch of wild rose laid on a coffin could stop the vampire in it from leaving (but wouldn't hurt them).

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** White roses / roses in general (might have connection with beliefs that roses will not grow over a grave). According to ''Dracula'', a branch of wild rose laid on a coffin could stop the vampire in it from leaving (but wouldn't hurt them).



** [[MustBeInvited They cannot enter a home unless invited in by someone.]] This can range from killing them to simply that they physically can't enter. However, it is still a large [[WeaksauceWeakness disadvantage]]. The original Dracula was able to skirt around this problem if he had already drunk the blood of someone inside (Lucy sleepwalked, so he bit her when she left the house at night). Some versions allow the invitation to be revoked in an instant, others require elaborate ceremonies, while some do not allow the invitation to ever be revoked. In any case, locked doors are never an obstacle to an invited vampire. In other cases the invitation may need to be renewed every time the vampire returns. In some modern versions (''Series/{{Being Human|UK}}'') the Vampire will begin to spontaneously combust if he crosses a threshold without an invitation, though elder Vampires are completely immune to this.

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** [[MustBeInvited They cannot enter a home unless invited in by someone.]] This can range from killing them to simply that they physically can't enter. However, it is still a large [[WeaksauceWeakness disadvantage]]. The original Dracula was able to skirt around this problem if he had already drunk the blood of someone inside (Lucy sleepwalked, so he bit her when she left the house at night). Some versions allow the invitation to be revoked in an instant, others require elaborate ceremonies, while some do not allow the invitation to ever be revoked. In any case, locked doors are never an obstacle to an invited vampire. In other cases the invitation may need to be renewed every time the vampire returns. In some modern versions (''Series/{{Being Human|UK}}'') the Vampire will begin to spontaneously combust if he crosses a threshold without an invitation, though elder Vampires are completely immune to this. ''Series/TrueBlood'' showed the logical downside to this flaw: all restrictions are lifted if the vampire ''[[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney buys]]'' the house.
23rd Aug '17 2:27:01 PM DesertDragon
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** [[WeakenedByTheLight Direct sunlight]]. This is actually a modern invention; much [[NewerThanTheyThink newer than you'd think]]. In old legends, they actually had to sleep in their coffin during the day, but sunlight wasn't ''[[DaywalkingVampire fatal]]''. They were merely dormant during the day, making it "easy" to sneak up on them. Nowadays, they just hole up inside, and sunlight literally has the power to make them [[ManOnFire spontaneously combustive.]] Sometimes this is specifically [[PostModernMagik ultraviolet radiation]]; sunlight is dangerous, but a light-bulb is not. This can vary with age, either becoming less or more effective over time. Because of its lethality, some vampires choose SuicideBySunlight.

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** [[WeakenedByTheLight Direct sunlight]]. This is actually a modern invention; much [[NewerThanTheyThink newer than you'd think]]. In old legends, they actually had to sleep in their coffin during the day, but sunlight wasn't ''[[DaywalkingVampire fatal]]''. They were merely dormant during the day, making it "easy" to sneak up on them. Nowadays, they just hole up inside, and sunlight literally has the power to make them [[ManOnFire spontaneously combustive.]] Sometimes this is specifically [[PostModernMagik ultraviolet radiation]]; sunlight is dangerous, but a light-bulb is not. This can vary with age, either becoming less or more effective over time. Because of its lethality, some
*** Weakness to sunlight often varies by age. Depending on the setting, elder
vampires choose SuicideBySunlight.are either resistant to sunlight, not affected at all, or sometimes ''more'' vulnerable to it than younger vamps because they're so far removed from their humanity.
23rd Aug '17 2:20:18 PM DesertDragon
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** You can also have a critter that sucks out someone's [[LifeDrinker youth]], or [[LifeEnergy lifeforce]], or [[YourSoulIsMine soul]], or "will", or [[EmotionEater fear]]. [[BuffySpeak It's a whole big sucking thing]]. Usually for a vampire, it is blood; whether or not they consume anything ''else'' varies.

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** You can also have a critter that sucks out someone's [[LifeDrinker youth]], or [[LifeEnergy lifeforce]], or [[YourSoulIsMine soul]], or "will", or willpower, chi, [[EmotionEater fear]].fear]], etc. [[BuffySpeak It's a whole big sucking thing]]. Usually for a vampire, it is blood; whether or not they consume anything ''else'' varies. Some settings may even have different breeds of vampire based on their "diet."
12th Aug '17 3:08:12 AM ShorinBJ
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** The more involved procedure has regained popularity and explains why every victim of a vampire doesn't become one and, by extension, their rarity such as in ''TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade'', ''Series/TrueBlood'', and ''Series/TheVampireDiaries''; at the very least, it explains why the 'vampire plague' scenario many heroes from Stoker onward try to prevent didn't happen thousands of years back. Some still use the "drained to near-death and left for dead" approach, but the modern blood-drinking-and-sharing offspring are usually beholden as servants to the parent vampire until released. Very few have the HeroicWillpower needed to resist becoming fully evil. [[IHateYouVampireDad Attempting to change a loved one into an eternal companion this way rarely works]].

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** The more involved procedure has regained popularity and explains why not every victim of a vampire doesn't become becomes one and, by extension, their rarity such as in ''TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade'', ''Series/TrueBlood'', and ''Series/TheVampireDiaries''; at the very least, it explains why the 'vampire plague' scenario many heroes from Stoker onward try to prevent didn't happen thousands of years back. Some still use the "drained to near-death and left for dead" approach, but the modern blood-drinking-and-sharing offspring are usually beholden as servants to the parent vampire until released. Very few have the HeroicWillpower needed to resist becoming fully evil. [[IHateYouVampireDad Attempting to change a loved one into an eternal companion this way rarely works]].



** Sometimes, vampirism [[NoOntologicalInertia is tied to the creator]]. Depending on [[RuleOfDrama how important the infectee is to the plot]], killing the VampireMonarch will either turn all of his "children" back into humans, or kill all of his creations with him. In some cases, killing the lower level vampires will do nothing to those they have sired; only the guy at the top of the pyramid is tied in this way.

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** Sometimes, vampirism [[NoOntologicalInertia is tied to the creator]]. Depending on [[RuleOfDrama how important the infectee is to the plot]], killing the VampireMonarch will either turn all of his "children" back into humans, or kill all of his creations with him. In some cases, killing the lower level vampires will do nothing to those they have sired; only the guy at the top of the pyramid is tied in this way. There may be a psychic bond between creator and created.



** Another possibility if [[NoKillLikeOverkill Overwhelming force]] or a medium-powered CoolSword or general [[StockRPGSpells low-key Magic Spell]] is used but not their specific vulnerability is to turn into mist and return to their coffin; incapacitated until the next sunset.

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** Another possibility if [[NoKillLikeOverkill Overwhelming force]] or a medium-powered CoolSword or general [[StockRPGSpells low-key Magic Spell]] is used but (but not their specific vulnerability vulnerability) is used is to turn into mist and return to their coffin; coffin, incapacitated until the next sunset.



** Wooden stake through the heart. In most modern depictions, this is fatal; in the original folklore, it merely stops the vampire from leaving his coffin. In most of the older stories, one had to use a hammer or a grave digger's shovel to drive the stake in, which meant that vampire stakings mainly happened during the day when the vampire was asleep, but recently, it's become [[MadeOfPlasticine oddly easy]] to do by hand. Remember, the ribs are there to prevent just such an occurrence. In some cases, a special specimen of wood is needed for the stake to be effective, commonly Hawthorn, and occasionally it needs to be blessed or enchanted, but not all vampires are this picky about what goes through their chests.

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** Wooden stake through the heart. In most modern depictions, this is fatal; in the original folklore, it merely stops the vampire from leaving his coffin. In most of the older stories, one had to use a hammer or a grave digger's gravedigger's shovel to drive the stake in, which meant that vampire stakings mainly happened during the day when the vampire was asleep, but recently, it's become [[MadeOfPlasticine oddly easy]] to do by hand. Remember, the ribs are there to prevent just such an occurrence. In some cases, a special specimen of wood is needed for the stake to be effective, commonly Hawthorn, and occasionally it needs to be blessed or enchanted, but not all vampires are this picky about what goes through their chests.
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