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22nd May '17 8:49:51 AM CosmicFerret
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The "baseline rules" above are strongly influenced by Hollywood tradition, and not "real" vampire folklore, or even classic vampire fiction. For instance, as (properly) shown in the 1992 ''Dracula'' with Gary Oldman and Winona Ryder, and in 2003's ''League of Extraordinary Gentlemen'', {{Dracula}} and other "folkloric" vampires were at the most [[WeakenedByTheLight inconvenienced by sunlight]], not killed instantly.

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The "baseline rules" above are strongly influenced by Hollywood tradition, and not "real" vampire folklore, or even classic vampire fiction. For instance, as (properly) shown in the 1992 ''Dracula'' with Gary Oldman and Winona Ryder, and in 2003's ''League of Extraordinary Gentlemen'', ''Film/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen'', {{Dracula}} and other "folkloric" vampires were at the most [[WeakenedByTheLight inconvenienced by sunlight]], not killed instantly.
15th May '17 8:19:14 PM nombretomado
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** The more involved procedure has regained popularity and explains why every victim of a vampire doesn't become one and, by extension, their rarity such as in ''TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade'', ''TrueBlood'', and ''VampireDiaries''; at the very least, it explains why the 'vampire plague' scenario many heroes from Stoker onward try to prevent didn't happen thousands of years back. Some still use the "drained to near-death and left for dead" approach, but the modern blood-drinking-and-sharing offspring are usually beholden as servants to the parent vampire until released. Very few have the HeroicWillpower needed to resist becoming fully evil. [[IHateYouVampireDad Attempting to change a loved one into an eternal companion this way rarely works]].

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** The more involved procedure has regained popularity and explains why every victim of a vampire doesn't become one and, by extension, their rarity such as in ''TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade'', ''TrueBlood'', ''Series/TrueBlood'', and ''VampireDiaries''; ''Series/TheVampireDiaries''; at the very least, it explains why the 'vampire plague' scenario many heroes from Stoker onward try to prevent didn't happen thousands of years back. Some still use the "drained to near-death and left for dead" approach, but the modern blood-drinking-and-sharing offspring are usually beholden as servants to the parent vampire until released. Very few have the HeroicWillpower needed to resist becoming fully evil. [[IHateYouVampireDad Attempting to change a loved one into an eternal companion this way rarely works]].



** No mortal-brain activity [[TrueBlood (making them easily recognized by telepaths)]]. However other vampires can seemingly pick up on the [[TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade minds of each other]], thus some vampires have 'unique' mental signals that mortal telepaths can not detect. This extends to some vampires having the power to [[VampireDiaries dominate the will of other]] vampires.

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** No mortal-brain activity [[TrueBlood [[Series/TrueBlood (making them easily recognized by telepaths)]]. However other vampires can seemingly pick up on the [[TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade minds of each other]], thus some vampires have 'unique' mental signals that mortal telepaths can not detect. This extends to some vampires having the power to [[VampireDiaries dominate the will of other]] vampires.
15th Mar '17 4:26:15 PM Anura
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The sheer number of different and contradictory myths that have built up around vampires over the years have made it difficult to explore all of them in great detail. To deal with this, writers have started [[VampireVarietyPack putting multiple types of vampire into their setting, with the explanation that different myths describe different types of vampire.]]
7th Mar '17 12:59:21 PM ShorinBJ
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* TheUndead: Technically, they are dead. Pretty spry for a dead guy, though. Alternatively, they may be perfectly alive, just of a different species, like werewolves.
* Level of "deadness" varies. On one side of the spectrum, it's just lack of heartbeat and skin that's cool to the touch. On the other, they're literally a moving, rotten animated corpse.

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* TheUndead: Technically, they are dead. Pretty spry for a dead guy, though. The idea that they're dead originated from a misunderstanding; they were said to be ''undying'', i.e. immortal. This got corrupted into undead, which was taken to mean they were living corpses. Alternatively, they may be perfectly alive, just of a different species, like werewolves.
* ** Level of "deadness" varies. On one side of the spectrum, it's just lack of heartbeat and skin that's cool to the touch. On the other, they're literally a moving, rotten animated corpse.
7th Mar '17 12:51:26 PM ShorinBJ
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** TheUndead: Technically, they are dead. Pretty spry for a dead guy, though.


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* TheUndead: Technically, they are dead. Pretty spry for a dead guy, though. Alternatively, they may be perfectly alive, just of a different species, like werewolves.
7th Dec '16 5:38:52 AM Martine34
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Modern vampire treatment in popular culture is usually divided into cycles. The Malignant cycle (1931 -1948), the Erotic cycle (1950 -1985), the Sympathetic cycle (1987 -2001), the Individualist cycle (2003- present day). Malignant, meaning vampires are treated as creatures of pure horror, as popular in the early films like Nosferatu. Erotic, meaning they were considered evil but alluring, such as the Dracula films starring Bela Lugosi in the 1950's, and the Hammer films starring Christopher Lee in the 1970's. Sympathetic, meaning they were seen as tragic monsters that were to be pitied, but still feared, although they could sometimes be redeemed usually by becoming human once more. And Individualist meaning that they could be bad, good, or in between, much like humans, and their transformation to vampirism did not imply a change in morality.

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Modern vampire treatment in popular culture is usually divided into cycles. The Malignant cycle (1931 -1948), the Erotic cycle (1950 -1985), the Sympathetic cycle (1987 -2001), the Individualist cycle (2003- present day). Malignant, meaning vampires are treated as creatures of pure horror, as popular in the early films like Nosferatu. Nosferatu, and Universal films. Erotic, meaning they were considered evil but alluring, such as the Dracula films starring Bela Lugosi in the 1950's, and the Hammer films starring Christopher Lee in the 1970's.films. Sympathetic, meaning they were seen as tragic monsters that were to be pitied, but still feared, although they could sometimes be redeemed usually by becoming human once more. And Individualist meaning that they could be bad, good, or in between, much like humans, and their transformation to vampirism did not imply a change in morality.
6th Dec '16 8:20:17 AM Martine34
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Modern vampire treatment in popular culture is usually divided into cycles. The Malignant cycle (1931 -1948), the Erotic cycle (1950 -1985), the Sympathetic cycle (1987 -2001), the Individualist cycle (2003- present day). Malignant, meaning vampires are treated as creatures of pure horror, as popular in the early films like Nosferatu. Erotic, meaning they were considered evil but alluring, such as the Dracula films starring Bela Lagosi in the 1950's, and the Hammer films starring Christopher Lee in the 1970's. Sympathetic, meaning they were seen as tragic monsters that were to be pitied, but still feared, although they could sometimes be redeemed usually by becoming human once more. And Individualist meaning that they could be bad, good, or in between, much like humans, and their transformation to vampirism did not imply a change in morality.

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Modern vampire treatment in popular culture is usually divided into cycles. The Malignant cycle (1931 -1948), the Erotic cycle (1950 -1985), the Sympathetic cycle (1987 -2001), the Individualist cycle (2003- present day). Malignant, meaning vampires are treated as creatures of pure horror, as popular in the early films like Nosferatu. Erotic, meaning they were considered evil but alluring, such as the Dracula films starring Bela Lagosi Lugosi in the 1950's, and the Hammer films starring Christopher Lee in the 1970's. Sympathetic, meaning they were seen as tragic monsters that were to be pitied, but still feared, although they could sometimes be redeemed usually by becoming human once more. And Individualist meaning that they could be bad, good, or in between, much like humans, and their transformation to vampirism did not imply a change in morality.
6th Dec '16 8:16:58 AM Martine34
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Modern vampire treatment in popular culture is usually divided into cycles. The Malignant cycle (1931 -1948), the Erotic cycle (1950 -1985), the Sympathetic cycle (1987 -2001), the Individualist cycle (2003- present day). Malignant, meaning vampires are treated as creatures of pure horror, as popular in the early films like Nosferatu. Erotic, meaning they were considered evil but alluring, such as the Dracula films starring Bela Lagosi in the 1950's, and the Hammer films starring Christopher Lee in the 1970's. Sympathetic, meaning they were seen as tragic monsters that were to be pitied, but still feared, although they could sometimes be redeemed usually by becoming human once more. And Individualist meaning that they could be bad, good, or in between, much like humans, and their transformation to vampirism did not imply a change in morality.
28th Nov '16 3:48:40 PM WillKeaton
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** They are [[SuperEmpowering capable of changing human beings into other vampires]]. Folkloric vampires were not so: one became a vampire after being cursed by one's parents, or dying by suicide, or after practising witchcraft, or being a werewolf or being born dead. Some say that Stoker's {{Dracula}} needed to go through a more elaborate process to make another vampire, but that {{bowdlerize}}d versions removed the detail where he made the victims drink ''his'' blood to begin the transformation, but there is really no indication of this in the text---Mina is forced to drink his blood to establish a stronger psychic bond, and it is explicitly stated that to the idea that a victim will at natural death become a vampire from just a bite.

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** They are [[SuperEmpowering capable of changing human beings into other vampires]]. Folkloric vampires were not so: one became a vampire after being cursed by one's parents, or dying by suicide, or after practising witchcraft, or being a werewolf or being born dead. Some say that Stoker's {{Dracula}} needed to go through a more elaborate process to make another vampire, but that {{bowdlerize}}d versions removed the detail where he made the victims drink ''his'' blood to begin the transformation, but there is really no indication of this in the text---Mina is forced to drink his blood to establish a stronger psychic bond, and it is explicitly stated that to the idea that a victim will will, at natural death death, become a vampire from just a bite.
4th Nov '16 8:55:37 PM FordPrefect
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** No mortal-brain activity, [[TrueBlood (making them easily recognized by telepaths)]]. However other vampires can seemingly pick up on the [[TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade minds of each other]], thus some vampires have 'unique' mental signals that mortal telepaths can not detect. This extends to some vampires having the power to [[VampireDiaries dominate the will of other]] vampires.

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** No mortal-brain activity, activity [[TrueBlood (making them easily recognized by telepaths)]]. However other vampires can seemingly pick up on the [[TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade minds of each other]], thus some vampires have 'unique' mental signals that mortal telepaths can not detect. This extends to some vampires having the power to [[VampireDiaries dominate the will of other]] vampires.
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