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3rd Dec '16 10:29:57 AM Alia_of
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* ''Literature/MaledictionTrilogy'' has faerie, who are shapeshifters, meaning they can appear perfectly beautiful or extremely horrifying, depending on their whim. They use powerful magic, are basically immortal and can travel through worlds and dimensions. They can be harmed only by [[ColdIron iron]] and their only weakness is [[GoldFever gold]]. And the ''pure'' faerie look at their ''tainted'' cousins (trolls trapped in human world) with contempt.
25th Nov '16 12:17:57 PM Morgenthaler
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* Creator/GlenCook's ''Literature/GarrettPI'' novels subvert the Dark Elf version of this trope: this world's dark elves don't live underground, are nihilists rather than spider fanatics, and dress like they just walked out of the medieval edition of ''GQ''. Morley Dotes, the protagonist's sort-of-friend, fits the half-elf trope minus the low self-esteem, as he's half dark elf and has inherited several levels of {{Badass}} from his elven side (multiclassing in ChickMagnet).\\

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* Creator/GlenCook's ''Literature/GarrettPI'' novels subvert the Dark Elf version of this trope: this world's dark elves don't live underground, are nihilists rather than spider fanatics, and dress like they just walked out of the medieval edition of ''GQ''. Morley Dotes, the protagonist's sort-of-friend, fits the half-elf trope minus the low self-esteem, as he's half dark elf and has inherited several levels of {{Badass}} badass from his elven side (multiclassing in ChickMagnet).\\
24th Nov '16 7:48:41 AM LordInsane
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** The Ayleids who ruled Cyrodiil long before the time of Tiber Septim were more akin to TheFairFolk meets AbusivePrecursors. Their singular cruelty towards their human slaves was truly horrific; Ayleid nobles would force all human slaves to work in the nude, and any slaves who attempted to escape would be skinned and made into blankets for the other slaves, their bones would be carved into sculptures and their entrails would decorate gardens, and there was even a spectator sport where human children would be set on fire and set upon by hungry animals. Eventually their slaves rose up and wiped out their civilisation, building the foundations of the Empire in the shell - the Ayleids were the ones who built the White Gold Tower in the centre of the Imperial City. General consensus among players is, quite unsurprisingly, that the Ayleids had it coming.

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** The Ayleids who ruled Cyrodiil long before the time of Tiber Septim were more akin to TheFairFolk meets AbusivePrecursors. Their singular cruelty towards their human slaves was truly horrific; Ayleid nobles would force all human slaves to work in the nude, and any slaves who attempted to escape would be skinned and made into blankets for the other slaves, their bones would be carved into sculptures and their entrails would decorate gardens, and there was even a spectator sport where human children would be set on fire and set upon by hungry animals. Eventually their slaves rose up and wiped out their civilisation, building the foundations of the Empire in the shell - the Ayleids were the ones who built the White Gold Tower in the centre of the Imperial City. General consensus among players is, quite unsurprisingly, that the Ayleids had it coming. This having been said, there are more than a few indications that the aforementioned cruelties were ''not'' universal amongst the Ayleid -- part of the reason the human slave rebellion won is that several Ayleid lords decided to ''join it'', and remained lords of their cities within the human-ruled Empire until the Empire took a religiously-flavoured anti-Elven racism turn.
20th Nov '16 9:26:36 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''WesternAnimation/StrangeMagic'': The elves are only half the size of the fairies who are small enough to ride squirrels as mounts. They come across as the lower class to the fairies as they live in ramshackle looking homes, dress in dirty working clothes even at festivals, and are ruled by a Fairy King. [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything The elves are dark-skinned and the fairies are light skinned.]]
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* ''WesternAnimation/StrangeMagic'': The elves are only half the size of the fairies who are small enough to ride squirrels as mounts. They come across as the lower class to the fairies as they live in ramshackle looking homes, dress in dirty working clothes even at festivals, and are ruled by a Fairy King. [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything The elves are dark-skinned and the fairies are light skinned.]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/StrangeMagic'': The elves are only half the size of the fairies who are small enough to ride squirrels as mounts. They come across as the lower class to the fairies as they live in ramshackle looking homes, dress in dirty working clothes even at festivals, and are ruled by a Fairy King. [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything The elves are dark-skinned and the fairies are light skinned.]]
20th Nov '16 9:25:53 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Literature/TheDeedOfPaksenarrion'' (a compilation of "Sheepfarmer's Daughter", "Divided Allegiance" and "Oath Of Gold") by ElizabethMoon has elves which follow almost every piece of this trope, including dark elves.

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* ''Literature/TheDeedOfPaksenarrion'' (a compilation of "Sheepfarmer's Daughter", "Divided Allegiance" and "Oath Of Gold") by ElizabethMoon Creator/ElizabethMoon has elves which follow almost every piece of this trope, including dark elves.
20th Nov '16 7:29:00 AM SAMAS
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*** Even the High Elves of Ulthan(read: Atlantis) are different (arguably MORE different than the other two) mainly due to the structure and tone of their military, which tends to focus a lot on combined arms. And also on really, really big [[{{BFS}} swords]] and [[AnAxeToGrind axes]], which aren't usually considered classical Elf weapons. But then, they wield their six-foot long two-handed swords ''gracefully''. Also, instead of the usual stereotypical rangers, they instead have Shadow Warriors, which are [[{{Ninja}} Ninjas]] really (down to the outfits).
*** Oh, and they have ''lions''. Great big white lions that can pull chariots or be ridden into battle. To say nothing of the White Lions of Chrace, a unit of axe-wielding elves wearing [[NemanSkinning lion pelts]] that they got from hunting down one of these lions and killing it personally. Among other things, Warhammer elves should be commended for combining elven grace with being very {{badass}}.

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*** Even the High Elves of Ulthan(read: Ultuhan(read: Atlantis) are different (arguably MORE different than the other two) mainly due to the structure and tone of their military, which tends to focus a lot on combined arms. And also on really, really big [[{{BFS}} swords]] and [[AnAxeToGrind axes]], which aren't usually considered classical Elf weapons. But then, they wield their six-foot long two-handed swords ''gracefully''. Also, instead of the usual stereotypical rangers, they instead have Shadow Warriors, which are [[{{Ninja}} Ninjas]] really (down to the outfits).
*** Oh, and they have ''lions''. Great big white lions that can pull chariots or be ridden into battle. To say nothing of the White Lions of Chrace, a unit of axe-wielding elves wearing [[NemanSkinning lion pelts]] that they got from hunting down one of these lions and killing it personally. Among other things, Warhammer elves should be commended for combining elven grace with being very {{badass}}.
20th Nov '16 7:28:03 AM SAMAS
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*** Oh, and they have ''lions''. Great big lions that can pull chariots or be ridden into battle. To say nothing of the White Lions of Chrace, a unit of axe-wielding elves whose rite of passage includes hunting down one of these lions and killing it with their ''bare hands.'' Among other things, Warhammer elves should be commended for combining elven grace with being very {{badass}}.

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*** Oh, and they have ''lions''. Great big white lions that can pull chariots or be ridden into battle. To say nothing of the White Lions of Chrace, a unit of axe-wielding elves whose rite of passage includes wearing [[NemanSkinning lion pelts]] that they got from hunting down one of these lions and killing it with their ''bare hands.'' personally. Among other things, Warhammer elves should be commended for combining elven grace with being very {{badass}}.
20th Nov '16 7:24:21 AM SAMAS
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*** Even the High Elves are different (arguably MORE different than the other two) mainly due to the structure and tone of their military, which tends to focus a lot on combined arms. And also on really, really big [[{{BFS}} swords]] and [[AnAxeToGrind axes]], which aren't usually considered classical Elf weapons. But then, they wield their six-foot long two-handed swords ''gracefully''. Also, instead of the usual stereotypical rangers, they instead have Shadow Warriors, which are [[{{Ninja}} Ninjas]] really (down to the outfits).
*** Oh, and they have ''lion chariots''. Among other thinks. Warhammer elves should be commended for combining elven grace and being very {{badass}}.

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*** Even the High Elves of Ulthan(read: Atlantis) are different (arguably MORE different than the other two) mainly due to the structure and tone of their military, which tends to focus a lot on combined arms. And also on really, really big [[{{BFS}} swords]] and [[AnAxeToGrind axes]], which aren't usually considered classical Elf weapons. But then, they wield their six-foot long two-handed swords ''gracefully''. Also, instead of the usual stereotypical rangers, they instead have Shadow Warriors, which are [[{{Ninja}} Ninjas]] really (down to the outfits).
*** Oh, and they have ''lion chariots''. ''lions''. Great big lions that can pull chariots or be ridden into battle. To say nothing of the White Lions of Chrace, a unit of axe-wielding elves whose rite of passage includes hunting down one of these lions and killing it with their ''bare hands.'' Among other thinks. things, Warhammer elves should be commended for combining elven grace and with being very {{badass}}.
14th Nov '16 6:38:00 PM Fireblood
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* [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_children_of_Woolpit The Green Children of Woolpit]], a brother and sister with green skin from an underground world, who spoke an unknown language, and would eat only beans. The boy died young, his sister learned English and lived a normal life-span, but was "loose" in her sexual behavior. This report was lost for centuries.

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* [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_children_of_Woolpit The Green Children of Woolpit]], a brother and sister with green skin from an underground world, who spoke an unknown language, and would eat only beans. The boy died young, his sister learned English and lived a normal life-span, but was "loose" in her sexual behavior. This report was lost for centuries.
centuries. Whether their was a real event at the bottom of this, or it was only a story, is debated by historians.
13th Nov '16 6:08:41 PM oknazevad
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* In ''Tormenta'', a D&D setting, not only did the elves lose their nation, Len'rienn, in a war against goblin-kin, having refused an alliance with humans, but their goddess, Gl'rienn, lost a battle against the leader of the goblin-kin army, and then went mad in frustration, bringing to the world eldritch abominations in the name of vengeance, which in turn didn't work because they killed EVERYTHING and not just goblin-kin (and didn't even strike where the goblin army was, for what matters). Then, the Tormenta invaded her own divine realm, demoting her to a minor goddess. To make matters worse, she was so terrified that she accepted protection from the minotaur god of power, Tauron - a god that demands the weak to serve him. So the elven goddess is but a sex slave, and the elves have no nation, no goddess, no pride and no love from the setting's creators. Oh, and most half-elves were born from rape in the war.

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* In ''Tormenta'', a D&D setting, Brazilian D&D-setting turned standalone game, not only did the elves lose their nation, Len'rienn, in a war against goblin-kin, having refused an alliance with humans, but their goddess, Gl'rienn, lost a battle against the leader of the goblin-kin army, and then went mad in frustration, bringing to the world eldritch abominations in the name of vengeance, which in turn didn't work because they killed EVERYTHING and not just goblin-kin (and didn't even strike where the goblin army was, for what matters). Then, the Tormenta invaded her own divine realm, demoting her to a minor goddess. To make matters worse, she was so terrified that she accepted protection from the minotaur god of power, Tauron - a god that demands the weak to serve him. So the elven goddess is but a sex slave, and the elves have no nation, no goddess, no pride and no love from the setting's creators. Oh, and most half-elves were born from rape in the war.
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