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18th Feb '17 3:07:32 AM DoorPrince
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** Almost said word-for-word in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV''
->'''Jonathan:''' My demons are a bit different!

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** Almost said word-for-word in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV''
->'''Jonathan:'''
''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'':
-->'''Jonathan:'''
My demons are a bit different!
18th Feb '17 3:03:24 AM DoorPrince
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**Almost said word-for-word in ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV''
->'''Jonathan:''' My demons are a bit different!
18th Feb '17 1:05:05 AM Dravencour
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** Despite "orc" deriving from an old word for demon, Tolkien's orcs are ''not'' demons of any kind (though it's implied that some of their commanders were orc-shaped demons) -- rather, they were mortal creatures likely bred from Elvish and/or human stock. Real demons are ''far'' more powerful.

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** Despite "orc" deriving from an old word for demon, Tolkien's orcs are ''not'' demons of any kind (though it's implied that some of their commanders were orc-shaped demons) -- rather, they were mortal creatures likely bred from Elvish and/or human stock. Real demons demons, such as the aforementioned Balrog, are ''far'' more powerful.
16th Feb '17 11:20:02 PM ShorinBJ
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** This is justified arguably by the fact that all living demons are actually [[HalfHumanHybrid hybrids]], so while some might be AlwaysChaoticEvil, others might just be chaotic neutral. The only ''true'' demon we ever see is [[spoiler:the Mayor after his ascension]].
*** Well, there's also the "top surface" demon coming out of the Hellmouth in the season 1 finale and in "The Zeppo". We never see the whole thing, though.

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** This is justified arguably by the fact that all living demons are actually [[HalfHumanHybrid hybrids]], so while some might be AlwaysChaoticEvil, others might just be chaotic neutral. The only ''true'' demon we ever see is [[spoiler:the Mayor after his ascension]].
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ascension]], aside from the "top surface" demon coming out of the Hellmouth in the season 1 finale and in "The Zeppo". We never see the whole thing, though. We do get to meet one of the Old Ones (Illyria), but only after she [[spoiler:uses Fred's (human) body as a vessel]]. Her ''true'' form is only shown in an illustration. The Scourge claim to be pure-blooded, supported by the fact that a machine designed to kill anyone with human blood didn't affect them. This may be because they have a sufficiently low percentage of human blood; as stated, there ''are'' no truly pure demons remaining on Earth.



** The Scourge claim to be pure blooded, supported by the fact that a machine designed to kill anyone with human blood didn't affect them. Adding a bit of complexity to the True Demon dynamic.
*** [[spoiler:The Scourge are about to meet Illyria in an upcoming comic miniseries, so we'll likely find out.]]
*** We do get to meet one of the Old Ones (Illyria), but only after she [[spoiler:uses Fred's (human) body as a vessel]]. Her ''true'' form is only shown in an illustration.
*** [[spoiler: We get to see Illyria actually take her true form in the sequel comic ''After The Fall''.]]
** Given that Buffy's demons and magic are frequently a metaphor for growing up, the demons going from appearing as Always Chaotic Evil to being more varied in their portrayals could simply be a metaphor for the realization that life is not always as black and white as we think it is when we're young.
*** Case in point, Clem. Appearing in seasons six and seven, he's a nice guy, with the exception of [[EatTheDog liking kittens.]]

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** The Scourge claim to be pure blooded, supported by the fact that a machine designed to kill anyone with human blood didn't affect them. Adding a bit of complexity to the True Demon dynamic.
*** [[spoiler:The Scourge are about to meet Illyria in an upcoming comic miniseries, so we'll likely find out.]]
*** We do get to meet one of the Old Ones (Illyria), but only after she [[spoiler:uses Fred's (human) body as a vessel]]. Her ''true'' form is only shown in an illustration.
*** [[spoiler: We get to see Illyria actually take her true form in the sequel comic ''After The Fall''.]]
** Given that Buffy's demons and magic are frequently a metaphor for growing up, the demons going from appearing as Always Chaotic Evil to being more varied in their portrayals could simply be a metaphor for the realization that life is not always as black and white as we think it is when we're young.
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young. Case in point, Clem. Appearing in seasons six and seven, he's a nice guy, with the exception of [[EatTheDog liking kittens.]]



* In ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'', the demons, both the low-level ones and the high-level ones like Azazel, Lilith, and Alastair, are human souls that have been twisted by Hell's torments. Lilith being the very first human soul Lucifer (himself a FallenAngel, naturally) corrupted.
** Demons in the Christian mythological sense exist too, in the form of [[spoiler: Satan, though his host of rebel angels is conspicuously absent.]]
** Cain is a third type of demon, cursed directly by god instead of twisted by hell. The Knights of Hell may or may not be a semi-separate variant related to his mark as well.

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* In ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'', the demons, both the low-level ones and the high-level ones like Azazel, Lilith, and Alastair, are human souls that have been twisted by Hell's torments. torments, Lilith being the very first human soul Lucifer (himself a FallenAngel, naturally) corrupted.
** Demons in the Christian mythological sense exist too, in the form of [[spoiler: Satan, [[spoiler:Satan, though his host of rebel angels is conspicuously absent.]]
** Cain is a third type of demon, cursed directly by god God instead of twisted by hell.Hell. The Knights of Hell may or may not be a semi-separate variant related to his mark as well.
16th Feb '17 11:12:55 PM ShorinBJ
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* In Kim Harrison's ''Literature/TheHollows'', demons are not mythological beings but a powerful race of BlackMagic using {{Shapeshift|ing}}er Aliens living in the novel's AlternateUniverse DarkWorld the Ever After. They can be summoned to make a DealWithTheDevil for things such as magical knowledge, assassination or in one case giving legal testimony. Demons often attempt to manipulate the deal in order to take the summoner into the Ever After and enslave them as a {{Familiar}} which is considered AFateWorseThanDeath.
** [[spoiler:Later on it is revealed that the demons are the ancestors of the WitchSpecies of the series. An ancient elven curse reduced the demon's fertility resulting in their offspring being weaker and short lived. These became the first generation of the witches.]]

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* In Kim Harrison's ''Literature/TheHollows'', demons are not mythological beings but a powerful race of BlackMagic using {{Shapeshift|ing}}er Aliens aliens living in the novel's AlternateUniverse DarkWorld the Ever After. They can be summoned to make a DealWithTheDevil for things such as magical knowledge, assassination assassination, or in one case giving legal testimony. Demons often attempt to manipulate the deal in order to take the summoner into the Ever After and enslave them as a {{Familiar}} which is considered AFateWorseThanDeath.
** [[spoiler:Later on on, it is revealed that the demons are the ancestors of the WitchSpecies of the series. An ancient elven curse reduced the demon's fertility demons' fertility, resulting in their offspring being weaker short-lived and short lived.unable to combine ley line magic with earth magic, cutting them off from the most powerful spells a demon can perform. These became the first generation of the witches.]]



* There are two kinds of demons in the Literature/NightHuntress books, those in their own corporeal bodies and those possessing hapless victims. A possessor cannot be killed, as they simply jump away into the nearest living thing when their current host dies. Corporeal demons are vulnerable to salt and cannot cross thresholds without an invitation.

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* There are two kinds of demons in the Literature/NightHuntress books, those in their own corporeal bodies and those possessing hapless victims. A possessor cannot be killed, as they simply jump away into the nearest living thing when their current host dies. dies, although they may be exorcised, or their host killed with nothing in range for them to possess. Corporeal demons are vulnerable to salt and cannot cross thresholds without an invitation.invitation, and can be killed if stabbed in the eyes with a knife made from demon bone.
16th Feb '17 11:06:20 PM ShorinBJ
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* ''Manga/DragonBall'': The franchise has several different kinds of demons, and even actual demon species. Many people, who aren't demons by default can become demons. Even when the Saiyajin Saga outed Piccolo as a Namekian, it didn't make him or his previous incarnation less of a demon. Prior to the Saiyajin Saga, it was established that those killed by demons didn't go to the after life, but their souls were forced to be stuck in the living world. This lore has been forgotten since the Boo Saga.

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* ''Manga/DragonBall'': The franchise has several different kinds of demons, and even actual demon species. Many people, who aren't demons by default can become demons. Even when the Saiyajin Saga outed Piccolo as a Namekian, it didn't make him or his previous incarnation less of a demon. Prior to the Saiyajin Saga, it was established that those killed by demons didn't go to the after life, afterlife, but their souls were forced to be stuck in the living world. This lore has been forgotten since the Boo Saga.



** Devils are inhabitants from hell, and Uranai Baba is able to bring one of them to the living world as her mercenary.

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** Devils are inhabitants from hell, Hell, and Uranai Baba is able to bring one of them to the living world as her mercenary.



*** In ''Z'' Movie 12, one of the Onis was corrupted by the evil energy of hundreds from hell's inhabitants, turning him into the incarnation of evil, Janemba. Janemba has the abilities to alter reality and connects the after life with the living world, bringing back thousands of dead people to life.
** Pure evil beings regardless of their race and species can become demons. There are clans of those demons, with two of the most prominent examples being led by Piccolo Daimaou and Lord Slug, both leaders being Namekian.
*** While Piccolo Daimaou's reincarnation was also born as a demon Namekian, he wasn't as purely evil as Piccolo Daimaou himself. After Piccolo Jr.'s defeat by Goku, he didn't try anything about world domination and he seemed to become less demonic, as God noticed that Radditz (and Goku) who was killed by Piccolo passed on to the after life.

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*** In ''Z'' Movie 12, one of the Onis Oni was corrupted by the evil energy of hundreds from hell's inhabitants, turning him into the incarnation of evil, Janemba. Janemba has the abilities to alter reality and connects the after life with the living world, bringing back thousands of dead people to life.
** Pure evil beings regardless of their race and species can become demons. There are clans of those demons, with two of the most prominent examples being led by Piccolo Daimaou Daimao and Lord Slug, both leaders being Namekian.
*** While Piccolo Daimaou's Daimao's reincarnation was also born as a demon Namekian, he wasn't as purely evil as Piccolo Daimaou Daimao himself. After Piccolo Jr.'s defeat by Goku, he didn't try anything about for world domination and he seemed to become less demonic, as God Kami noticed that Radditz (and Goku) Raditz and Goku, who was were killed by Piccolo Piccolo, passed on to the after life.afterlife. The demon aspect was quickly dropped as the more fantastical supernatural elements were supplanted by more of a science fiction vibe.
16th Feb '17 12:03:01 AM Dravencour
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* [[DemonicPossession Inside of a suitable vessel]]



* {{Satan}} or perhaps some other religious antichrist equivalent

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* {{Satan}} or perhaps some other religious antichrist equivalentdevil-figure.


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** In addition, other demonic beings exist in the form of evil spirits created from the souls of those who died in the grip of negative emotions like fear and hatred (which happens a LOT in this CrapsackWorld), which like to possess animals, corpses, susceptible humans, and even the very snow itself in one case. These beings are drawn to Guts's Brand of Sacrifice and are always seeking to claim him.
8th Feb '17 8:43:38 PM JapaneseTeeth
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* ''Manga/MyMonsterSecret'': Akane is a demon who simply appears to be a girl with horns and ComboPlatterPowers, including [[MesACrowd duplication]], {{Shapeshifting}}, [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld enhanced lifespan]], {{Telekinesis}}, {{Teleportation}}, and summoning objects (and, when she's hungry, {{EldritchAbomination}}s). As far as evilness goes, she's mainly TheGadfly, though she does have occasional JerkAss moments, such as threatening to destroy the earth with a meteor to force someone to back her a cake.
5th Feb '17 9:31:54 PM Tomodachi
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* The Inferni citizens in ''WebComic/MyBestFriendMarneao''. The demons in the comic are [[HornedHumanoid horned]] [[HumanoidAbomination humanoid monsters]], with sharp teeths and red eyes, and a specific kind of super power, while other Inferni residents like Marneao, Lucifer and Miltch are human looking [[BigRedDevil red devils with the classical horns and tail.]] The Inferni are slaves to Heaven after the new God ascension, and are not allowed to kill humans, and their home is [[AHellOfATime not that bad]] compared with the elitist Heaven city, which is constantly attacked by abominations. In inferni, people can have a second chance, and [[InterspeciesRomance demons and humans can have a relationship.]] The demons that attack our protagonist are also not really bad guys, [[PunchClockVillain just employers doing their job.]]
20th Jan '17 7:22:26 AM themisterfree
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* Of course, It is incredibly common for SuperSentai\PowerRangers to use Demons and Youkai as MonstersOfTheWeek.

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* Of course, It is incredibly common for SuperSentai\PowerRangers ''SuperSentai''\''PowerRangers'' to use Demons and Youkai as MonstersOfTheWeek.MonstersOfTheWeek. The BigBad of ''Series/KyoryuSentaiZyuranger'' is called "Dai (Great) Satan", though he's just a giant floating head.... who yells a lot. Not exactly what one would think of when thinking about Satan. (''Series/MightyMorphinPowerRangers'' dropped that whole aspect and turned Dai Satan into Lokar, a random monster who served Rita.)
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