History Main / OurAngelsAreDifferent

19th Jul '17 12:23:39 PM BeerBaron
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* Franchise/TheElderScrolls has a race of beings called "Jills," which are described as "the minute-maidens of Akatosh," and function as Angels in relation to him. In [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]] they will make their first in-game appearance as massive black Dragons that will try to eat your face off with some regularity. Many lesser Daedra could count as angels as well, depending on how you view their respective Prince.

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* Franchise/TheElderScrolls ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' series has a race of many [[OurGodsAreDifferent divine beings]] taking many forms and moralities. The closest to "angels" would be the lesser Aedra. The Aedra, meaning "Our Ancestors" in the [[ClassicalTongue old Aldmeri language]], are the pre-creation beings called "Jills," which are described as "the minute-maidens who sacrificed a large portion of Akatosh," and function as Angels in relation to him. In [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]] they will make their first in-game appearance as massive black Dragons that will try divine power in order to eat your face off with some regularity. Many lesser Daedra could count as angels as well, create Mundus, the mortal world. They were originally many in number, but only 8 of the most powerful survived the creation of Mundus. (And depending on how you view the story, even they did not truly "survive," but they are dead and "dreaming the are alive.") These 8 are known as the "Divines" and would become the primary deities worshiped by the [[SaintlyChurch Church of the Divines]]. Many lesser Aedric beings have been known throughout history. The most famous is perhaps Morihaus, a "winged [[ALoadOfBull man-bull]]", said to be the demi-god son of Kynareth, one of the Divines. The [[OurDragonsAreDifferent dragons]], servants/fragments of [[DragonsAreDivine Akatosh]], the draconic god of time and [[TopGod chief deity]] of the Divines pantheon, are another. These beings are typically considered by many in-universe to be the equivalent of angelic beings. Dragons in particular play with the morality aspects of the trope, being creatures of [[DragonsAreDemonic aggression and domination]], and it's [[AlwaysChaoticEvil in their respective Prince.blood to be cruel and contemptuous]]. However, [[HeelFaceTurn they can fight against their baser nature]], as best exemplified by Paarthurnax.
16th Jul '17 12:06:17 AM merotoker
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* '''How powerful are they?''' {{Winged Humanoid}}s and angels are sometimes weak or at least [[GlassCannon easily damaged]] when their supernatural aspect is missing or not played up. More often however, they are portrayed as divinely powerful badasses. They do go toe to toe with [[EvilCounterpartRace demons]], after all, and are canonically more powerful than human beings. When TheGodsMustBeLazy is in play, the rarity of angels can combine with ConservationOfNinjitsu to make them rare but powerful compared to the common and expendable hordes of Hell. Maybe they're downright martially inclined and form TheArmiesOfHeaven.

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* '''How powerful are they?''' {{Winged Humanoid}}s and angels are sometimes weak or at least [[GlassCannon easily damaged]] when their supernatural aspect is missing or not played up. More often however, they are portrayed as divinely powerful badasses. They do go toe to toe with [[EvilCounterpartRace demons]], after all, and are canonically more powerful than human beings. When TheGodsMustBeLazy is in play, the rarity of angels can combine with ConservationOfNinjitsu ConservationOfNinjutsu to make them rare but powerful compared to the common and expendable hordes of Hell. Maybe they're downright martially inclined and form TheArmiesOfHeaven.



* ''Cherubim'' -- (singular ''Cherub'') Tend to be depicted in blue, or ''as'' blue (or red, or lots of different colors); represent God's knowledge and act as soldiers and [[GuardianEntity guardian angels]]. St. Gabriel is Head Cherub. In TheMiddleAges, often misunderstood to be a single angel ''named'' "Cherubin." In TheRenaissance, the ''Putti'', chubby little children or even a chubby face between two or more wings, were later [[SadlyMythtaken confused]] with Cherubim (or even Seraphim, as in [[http://www.lib-art.com/imgpainting/7/0/10507-stigmata-of-st-francis-domenico-ghirlandaio.jpg this painting]] by Ghirlandaio).

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* ''Cherubim'' -- (singular ''Cherub'') Tend to be depicted in blue, or ''as'' blue (or red, or lots of different colors); represent God's knowledge and act as soldiers and [[GuardianEntity guardian angels]]. St. Gabriel is Head Cherub. In TheMiddleAges, often misunderstood to be a single angel ''named'' "Cherubin." In TheRenaissance, UsefulNotes/TheRenaissance, the ''Putti'', chubby little children or even a chubby face between two or more wings, were later [[SadlyMythtaken confused]] with Cherubim (or even Seraphim, as in [[http://www.lib-art.com/imgpainting/7/0/10507-stigmata-of-st-francis-domenico-ghirlandaio.jpg this painting]] by Ghirlandaio).



** And finally, there is the greatest secret of Academy City, known by the code-word DRAGON: [[spoiler:the otherworldly being known as Aiwass. It is an existence somewhat similar to an angel, but obviously different at the same time. Nobody really knows ''anything'' about Aiwass (YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm being in full effect), though what is known is that it is the single most powerful entity yet introduced.]]

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** And finally, there is the greatest secret of Academy City, known by the code-word DRAGON: [[spoiler:the otherworldly being known as Aiwass. It is an existence somewhat similar to an angel, but obviously different at the same time. Nobody really knows ''anything'' about Aiwass (YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm being in full effect), though what is known is that it is the single most powerful entity yet introduced.]]introduced]].



* In HogwartsSchoolOfPrayerAndMiracles, they're [[BeautyEqualsGoodness "beautiful people"]] with wings, yellow halos and white robes. [[MundaneUtility And they deliver mail to Hogwarts.]]

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* In HogwartsSchoolOfPrayerAndMiracles, ''FanFic/HogwartsSchoolOfPrayerAndMiracles'', they're [[BeautyEqualsGoodness "beautiful people"]] with wings, yellow halos and white robes. [[MundaneUtility And they deliver mail to Hogwarts.]]



* In TheSecretOfTheHunchback, a surprisingly not-bad mockbuster of Disney's Hunchback, we find out [[spoiler:angels resemble disfigured humans, and the young ones, yet to become full on angels, have large blood-filled sacks on their back where their wings are growing. Yeah. Quasimodo was a teenage angel. Apparently abandoned by his angel parents? Also, healing powers.]] "Fear Not" indeed.

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* In TheSecretOfTheHunchback, ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretOfTheHunchback'', a surprisingly not-bad mockbuster of Disney's Hunchback, we find out [[spoiler:angels resemble disfigured humans, and the young ones, yet to become full on angels, have large blood-filled sacks on their back where their wings are growing. Yeah. Quasimodo was a teenage angel. Apparently abandoned by his angel parents? Also, healing powers.]] powers]]. "Fear Not" indeed.



* In ''Film/CityOfAngels'', the angel protagonist falls in love with a human woman and decides to become human to be with her after hearing the story of a former angel who's now a happily married mortal. [[spoiler:Then she dies, and he either commits suicide or becomes an angel again, depending on your interpretation of the ending]]. Both in this and the original ''Der Himmel uber Berlin'' (''Film/WingsOfDesire'') angels are trenchcoat wearing, normal-looking humans with the twist that the protagonists usually can't see them. They are implied to have worn armour in the past though (the main character pawns his to buy warmer clothes when he becomes human).

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* In ''Film/CityOfAngels'', the angel protagonist falls in love with a human woman and decides to become human to be with her after hearing the story of a former angel who's now a happily married mortal. [[spoiler:Then she dies, and he either commits suicide or becomes an angel again, depending on your interpretation of the ending]]. ending.]] Both in this and the original ''Der Himmel uber Berlin'' (''Film/WingsOfDesire'') angels are trenchcoat wearing, normal-looking humans with the twist that the protagonists usually can't see them. They are implied to have worn armour in the past though (the main character pawns his to buy warmer clothes when he becomes human).



* In ''Film/{{Noah}},'' they all start out as glowy wispy beings literally made of light, but the ones we see were encased in stone as punishment for [[spoiler:helping humanity by teaching them technology and other things they were not ready to know yet and were supposed to discover on their own.]]They pretty much became six armed rock people that look nothing like angels.

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* In ''Film/{{Noah}},'' they all start out as glowy wispy beings literally made of light, but the ones we see were encased in stone as punishment for [[spoiler:helping humanity by teaching them technology and other things they were not ready to know yet and were supposed to discover on their own.]]They own]]. They pretty much became six armed rock people that look nothing like angels.



* Angels in APracticalGuideToEvil apparently come in choirs - we know of Fortitude, Mercy, Compassion, Judgement and Contrition - that affect not only their mindset and powers but that of their chosen Heroes. We've only (yet) seen an Angel of Contrition on screen, when [[spoiler:the process of summoning it was interrupted.]] They also have a BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood effect on those exposed to them. GoodIsNotNice is in effect.

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* Angels in APracticalGuideToEvil ''Literature/APracticalGuideToEvil'' apparently come in choirs - we know of Fortitude, Mercy, Compassion, Judgement and Contrition - that affect not only their mindset and powers but that of their chosen Heroes. We've only (yet) seen an Angel of Contrition on screen, when [[spoiler:the process of summoning it was interrupted.]] They also have a BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood effect on those exposed to them. GoodIsNotNice is in effect.



** In regards to being the guardian of freewill, [[spoiler:when a Fallen, which is a matter of debate, ''lied'' to Harry with seven words and these words led Harry to kill himself, Uriel was able to tell a revived Harry seven words of Absolute Truth to counter this infraction.]]

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** In regards to being the guardian of freewill, [[spoiler:when a Fallen, which is a matter of debate, ''lied'' to Harry with seven words and these words led Harry to kill himself, Uriel was able to tell a revived Harry seven words of Absolute Truth to counter this infraction.]] infraction]].



** Specifically, in the first game Priel was [[spoiler: a construct created by the [[GodIsEvil evil god]] BigBad to keep his human pawns in check, presumably given the form she was so they'd feel more comfortable following her and mark her off as stupid. Which she's not - under the thick ValleyGirl accent she's a sadistic psychopath and the [[BigBad God's]] number one fangirl. The end of the story shows that the idea she was crucial to his plans was another false impression, she's completely disposable, and in fact mass-produced.]] In the second game the sprite is reused as generic ranged {{Mooks}} called succubus (and variations thereof).

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** Specifically, in the first game Priel was [[spoiler: a construct created by the [[GodIsEvil evil god]] BigBad to keep his human pawns in check, presumably given the form she was so they'd feel more comfortable following her and mark her off as stupid. Which she's not - under the thick ValleyGirl accent she's a sadistic psychopath and the [[BigBad God's]] number one fangirl. The end of the story shows that the idea she was crucial to his plans was another false impression, she's completely disposable, and in fact mass-produced.]] mass-produced]]. In the second game the sprite is reused as generic ranged {{Mooks}} called succubus (and variations thereof).



* In ''{{Darksiders}},'' they are a powerful technologically advanced warrior race and among the enemies fought in the game. They are [[WingedHumanoid Winged Humanoids]] but the males are much more masculine than most depictions. One of them in the sequel is even downright obese. They apparently use Ortho (for all practical purposes [[CallARabbitASmeerp griffins)]] as mounts and military animals because at one point you [[UnexpectedShmupLevel steal one and ride on it.]]

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* In ''{{Darksiders}},'' ''VideoGame/{{Darksiders}},'' they are a powerful technologically advanced warrior race and among the enemies fought in the game. They are [[WingedHumanoid Winged Humanoids]] but the males are much more masculine than most depictions. One of them in the sequel is even downright obese. They apparently use Ortho (for all practical purposes [[CallARabbitASmeerp griffins)]] as mounts and military animals because at one point you [[UnexpectedShmupLevel steal one and ride on it.]]



* Angels from ''Webcomic/DanAndMabsFurryAdventures'' are simply another race of Creatures in Furrae. They have feathered wings and a proficiency with light magic as opposed to the Demons' bat wings and talent for dark magic. Angels aren't a strictly "good" race either; they value power and influence as much as the greediest demon (though there are undoubtedly individual exceptions). [[spoiler: Oh, and they're also slowly dying out for some reason]].

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* Angels from ''Webcomic/DanAndMabsFurryAdventures'' are simply another race of Creatures in Furrae. They have feathered wings and a proficiency with light magic as opposed to the Demons' bat wings and talent for dark magic. Angels aren't a strictly "good" race either; they value power and influence as much as the greediest demon (though there are undoubtedly individual exceptions). [[spoiler: Oh, and they're also slowly dying out for some reason]].reason.]]



** The story later introduces [[spoiler:Cherubim, which are a type of alien species that grow large wings in adulthood. They are extreme loners, often never meeting another of their kind except to mate, and their idea of romantic attraction is FoeYay. The BigBad is one of them, which would explain the role of angels in troll mythology - the BigBad influenced the troll's concept of the GrimReaper.]] We've met only two [[spoiler:Cherubim]] in the story. One is extremely kind and gentle, the other... [[OmnicidalManiac Not so much]].

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** The story later introduces [[spoiler:Cherubim, which are a type of alien species that grow large wings in adulthood. They are extreme loners, often never meeting another of their kind except to mate, and their idea of romantic attraction is FoeYay. The BigBad is one of them, which would explain the role of angels in troll mythology - the BigBad influenced the troll's concept of the GrimReaper.]] TheGrimReaper]]. We've met only two [[spoiler:Cherubim]] in the story. One is extremely kind and gentle, the other... [[OmnicidalManiac Not so much]].



* Played rather bizarrely in the second ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'' movie "Beast With A Billions Backs," where [[spoiler:what appear to be Angels turn out to be mindless birds. That look exactly like Winged Humanoids wearing robes. And live on the back of a [[GeniusLoci sentient planet]] that inspired FluffyCloudHeaven, and pick parasites off its skin.]]

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* Played rather bizarrely in the second ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'' movie "Beast With A Billions Backs," where [[spoiler:what appear to be Angels turn out to be mindless birds. That look exactly like Winged Humanoids wearing robes. And live on the back of a [[GeniusLoci sentient planet]] that inspired FluffyCloudHeaven, and pick parasites off its skin.]]skin]].
25th Jun '17 3:09:54 PM KiraDoom
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* ''VideoGame/BendyAndTheInkMachine'': One of the cartoon characters is Alice Angel, who has a halo, but also has horns and doesn't have wings, indicating she may be a fallen angel or something similar.
14th Jun '17 8:34:17 PM Alberloze
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* ''Webcomic/PerfectionEngine'' revolves around an angelic race called Eidolons that live in a society run by their perfect morals and order. Additionally, all of them appear to have a halo above their head, and wings are prevalent symbols in their society.
4th Jun '17 11:07:36 AM Morgenthaler
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'''Castiel:''' Read the Bible. Angels are warriors of God. I'm a soldier.

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'''Castiel:''' Read the Bible.Literature/{{the Bible}}. Angels are warriors of God. I'm a soldier.
3rd Jun '17 11:15:28 AM nombretomado
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** TabletopGame/ChangelingTheLost has the Nemeses, assassins serving Fate who kill anyone who tries to ScrewDestiny and manifest as {{Winged Humanoid}}s resembling their target. They're never explicitly called angels but the parallels are obvious.

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** TabletopGame/ChangelingTheLost ''TabletopGame/ChangelingTheLost'' has the Nemeses, assassins serving Fate who kill anyone who tries to ScrewDestiny and manifest as {{Winged Humanoid}}s resembling their target. They're never explicitly called angels but the parallels are obvious.



* Also from WhiteWolf, ''TabletopGame/{{Scion}}'''s equivalent of angels are the Hands of Aten (who is the Avatar of the Titan of Light). [[LightIsNotGood They are bad]]. Although the descriptions suggest that they are in fact [[LightIsNotGood Aten's]] attempt to copy angels as described by humans. So the stories of angels, true or false, came before the Hands.

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* Also from WhiteWolf, From Creator/WhiteWolf, ''TabletopGame/{{Scion}}'''s equivalent of angels are the Hands of Aten (who is the Avatar of the Titan of Light). [[LightIsNotGood They are bad]]. Although the descriptions suggest that they are in fact [[LightIsNotGood Aten's]] attempt to copy angels as described by humans. So the stories of angels, true or false, came before the Hands.
3rd Jun '17 12:21:30 AM harharhar
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** Some names and/or terms in [[EldritchAbomination Everblight's]] army contains occasional biblical words (messiah, anyone?), among which are Seraphim and Angelius, which, in-game, are eyeless winged horrors.

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** Some names and/or terms in [[EldritchAbomination Everblight's]] army contains occasional biblical words (messiah, anyone?), among which such as messiah, and so there are such words as Seraphim and Angelius, which, in-game, are eyeless winged horrors.


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* While Mercy from ''VideoGame/{{Overwatch}}'' is a normal human, she's a support/healer character whose armor comes with wings, making her look like an angel.
12th May '17 3:17:07 PM WillKeaton
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* In ''Film/{{Dogma}}'', If they have their wings cut off, it transforms them into humans (which apparently doesn't work for demons or fallen angels), and they can't drink alcohol (although that was mainly a restriction put on them after one angel had a few too many and insulted The Big Man). Metatron is said to have 36 wings with eyes and mouths all over his body, each mouth said to speak a different language, but in the movie he only had 2 wings, even though he did first manifest as a torrent of flame. The other two angels of the film, although disgraced, seem to have powers retaining to their old posts, with Bartleby, a grigori, knowing everyone's personal history by looking at them, and Loki, the angel of death, mentioned to be able to "rain sulfur" (although he doesn't seem to enjoy doing so). When in battle, both are (nearly) invulnerable to our mortal protagonists.\\
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Also, angels are as anatomically impaired as a Ken doll, which appears to be a mistake at first, as according to Genesis angels are very capable of doing the deed and making {{Half Human Hybrid}}s, but It makes sense in the context of the movie. After all, much of the plot is based around how God can {{Retcon}} new rules for angels whenever S/He likes, as with the ban for alcohol after Loki's little tantrum. It would make perfect sense that God would castrate the angels to stop more {{Nephilim}} from being born.

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* In ''Film/{{Dogma}}'', If they have their wings cut off, it transforms them into humans (which apparently doesn't work for demons or fallen angels), and they can't drink alcohol (although that was mainly a restriction put on them after one angel had a few too many and insulted The Big Man). Metatron is said to have 36 wings with eyes and mouths all over his body, each mouth said to speak a different language, but in the movie he only had 2 wings, even though he did first manifest as a torrent of flame. The other two angels of the film, although disgraced, seem to have powers retaining to their old posts, with Bartleby, a grigori, knowing everyone's personal history by looking at them, and Loki, the angel of death, mentioned to be able to "rain sulfur" (although he doesn't seem to enjoy doing so). When in battle, both are (nearly) invulnerable to our mortal protagonists.\\
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Also, angels are as anatomically impaired as a Ken doll, which appears to be a mistake at first, as according to Genesis angels are very capable of doing the deed and making {{Half Human Hybrid}}s, but It makes sense in the context of the movie. After all, much of the plot is based around how God can {{Retcon}} new rules for angels whenever S/He likes, as with the ban for alcohol after Loki's little tantrum. It would make perfect sense that God would castrate the angels to stop more {{Nephilim}} from being born.



** [[http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/dr-clef-s-proposal Dr. Clef's proposal for SCP-001]] is a titanic glowing figure with a variable number of wings (ranging from 2 to [[OneHundredAndEight 108]]) apparently guarding a gate and will destroy anything that approaches with his sword, including an ICBM; it is clearly meant to be a bona fide Judeao-Christian Angel as they were ORIGINALLY conceptualized. It's somewhat implied that it's specifically the angel which guards the gate back into Eden. According to what might have been a message from the future, it will eventually destroy the world. It actually has a name, too. Courtesy of [[Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} The Other Wiki]], meet [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jophiel Archangel Jophiel]]. That also makes him one of the Cherubim chiefs.

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** [[http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/dr-clef-s-proposal Dr. Clef's proposal for SCP-001]] is a titanic glowing figure with a variable number of wings (ranging from 2 to [[OneHundredAndEight 108]]) apparently guarding a gate and will destroy anything that approaches with his sword, including an ICBM; it is clearly meant to be a bona fide Judeao-Christian Angel as they were ORIGINALLY conceptualized. It's somewhat implied that it's specifically the angel which guards the gate back into Eden. According to what might have been a message from the future, it will eventually destroy the world. It actually has a name, too. Courtesy of [[Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} The Other Wiki]], Wiki,]] meet [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jophiel Archangel Jophiel]]. Jophiel.]] That also makes him one of the Cherubim chiefs.
12th May '17 3:14:06 PM WillKeaton
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* '''Can humans become angels?''' Most religions that believe in angels regard them as an entirely different species from humanity. (A notable exception is {{UsefulNotes/Mormonism}}[[note]] [[http://www.lds.org/scriptures/bd/angels?lang=eng which understands the term 'angel' to mean]] all of God's heavenly servants, including exalted humans (like Elijah and Moroni) and spirits that are destined to become humans[[/note]].) But it's a very common folk belief that humans become angels when they die, though they might [[ItsAWonderfulPlot have to earn their wings]].

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* '''Can humans become angels?''' Most religions that believe in angels regard them as an entirely different species from humanity. (A notable exception is {{UsefulNotes/Mormonism}}[[note]] {{UsefulNotes/Mormonism}}.[[note]] [[http://www.lds.org/scriptures/bd/angels?lang=eng which Which understands the term 'angel' to mean]] all of God's heavenly servants, including exalted humans (like Elijah and Moroni) and spirits that are destined to become humans[[/note]].) humans.[[/note]]) But it's a very common folk belief that humans become angels when they die, though they might [[ItsAWonderfulPlot have to earn their wings]].
1st May '17 8:12:21 PM Theriocephalus
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* ''Webcomic/KillSixBillionDemons'' involves the adventures of an Earth woman with an angel from another realm called the Throne, a hole-ridden, statuesque being whose name translates as ''82 white chain born in emptiness returns to subdue evil''.

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* ''Webcomic/KillSixBillionDemons'' involves the adventures of an Earth woman with an angel from another realm called the Throne, a hole-ridden, statuesque being whose name translates as ''82 white chain born White Chain Born in emptiness returns Emptiness Returns to subdue evil''.Subdue Evil''.


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** In general, angels are sterile, unchanging and sexless beings. They do not change or beget, and view things like fertility, mutability and gender as mortal failings. (In theory. [[{{Hypocrite}} In practice, a lot of angels openly refer to themselves and each other with male pronouns]]). Angels like 82 White Chain who spend extended periods in contact with -- and caring about -- humanity are known to become more humanlike, which includes developing gender (in 82's case, she's becoming female). This is not portrayed as necessarily a bad thing.
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