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9th Sep '16 1:13:09 PM Larkmarn
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* This trend was spoofed by ''Film/TropicThunder'', in which action star [[Creator/BenStiller Tugg Speedman]] previously made a transparently Oscar Bait movie called ''Simple Jack'', about a mentally challenged farm hand. The film-within-a-film was a total box office bomb, and called one of the worst films of all time. [[Creator/RobertDowneyJr Kirk Lazarus]] later explains to him that the successful Oscar Bait films described above worked because the actors didn't go, in his words, "full retard", instead playing their characters as more mildly challenged in order to fish for awards without alienating the audience.
--->'''Kirk Lazarus:''' Everybody knows you never go full retard.
--->'''Tugg Speedman:''' What do you mean?
--->'''Kirk Lazarus:''' Check it out. Creator/DustinHoffman, ''Film/RainMan'', look retarded, act retarded, not retarded. Counted toothpicks, cheated cards. Autistic, sho'. Not retarded. You know Creator/TomHanks, ''Film/ForrestGump''. Slow, yes. Retarded, maybe. Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off [[UsefulNotes/RichardNixon Nixon]] and won a ping-pong competition. That ain't retarded. Creator/PeterSellers, ''Film/BeingThere''. Infantile, yes. Retarded, no. You went full retard, man. Never go full retard. You don't buy that? Ask Creator/SeanPenn, 2001, ''Film/IAmSam''. Remember? Went full retard, went home empty handed...
7th Sep '16 2:21:53 PM tsstevens
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** This trend was mercilessly spoofed by ''Film/TropicThunder'', in which action star [[Creator/BenStiller Tugg Speedman]] previously made a transparently Oscar Bait movie called ''Simple Jack'', about a mentally challenged farm hand. The film-within-a-film was a total box office bomb, and called one of the worst films of all time. [[Creator/RobertDowneyJr Kirk Lazarus]] later explains to him that the successful Oscar Bait films described above worked because the actors didn't go, in his words, "full retard", instead playing their characters as more mildly challenged in order to fish for awards without alienating the audience.
--->'''Kirk Lazarus:''' Everybody knows you never go full retard.
--->'''Tugg Speedman:''' What do you mean?
--->'''Kirk Lazarus:''' Check it out. Creator/DustinHoffman, ''Film/RainMan'', look retarded, act retarded, not retarded. Counted toothpicks, cheated cards. Autistic, sho'. Not retarded. You know Creator/TomHanks, ''Film/ForrestGump''. Slow, yes. Retarded, maybe. Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off [[UsefulNotes/RichardNixon Nixon]] and won a ping-pong competition. That ain't retarded. Creator/PeterSellers, ''Film/BeingThere''. Infantile, yes. Retarded, no. You went full retard, man. Never go full retard. You don't buy that? Ask Creator/SeanPenn, 2001, ''Film/IAmSam''. Remember? Went full retard, went home empty handed...
*** Ironically, Robert Downey Jr.'s next film was ''The Soloist'', which features a RealLife paranoid schizophrenic savant musician played by previous Best Actor winner Jamie Foxx (RDJ played the LA Times reporter who befriends him) - no Oscars for either of them, though.
*** Even more ironically, Downey Jr. was nominated for "Best Supporting Actor" for playing Kirk Lazarus in ''Film/TropicThunder''. He lost to Creator/HeathLedger though, 'cause everyone knows the level of insanity [[Film/TheDarkKnight Heath's role]] reached...
** And also the movie ''Film/SlingBlade'', which made Billy Bob Thornton into a movie star.
30th Aug '16 7:27:48 PM nombretomado
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--->'''Kirk Lazarus:''' Check it out. DustinHoffman, ''Film/RainMan'', look retarded, act retarded, not retarded. Counted toothpicks, cheated cards. Autistic, sho'. Not retarded. You know Creator/TomHanks, ''Film/ForrestGump''. Slow, yes. Retarded, maybe. Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off [[UsefulNotes/RichardNixon Nixon]] and won a ping-pong competition. That ain't retarded. Creator/PeterSellers, ''Film/BeingThere''. Infantile, yes. Retarded, no. You went full retard, man. Never go full retard. You don't buy that? Ask Creator/SeanPenn, 2001, ''Film/IAmSam''. Remember? Went full retard, went home empty handed...

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--->'''Kirk Lazarus:''' Check it out. DustinHoffman, Creator/DustinHoffman, ''Film/RainMan'', look retarded, act retarded, not retarded. Counted toothpicks, cheated cards. Autistic, sho'. Not retarded. You know Creator/TomHanks, ''Film/ForrestGump''. Slow, yes. Retarded, maybe. Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off [[UsefulNotes/RichardNixon Nixon]] and won a ping-pong competition. That ain't retarded. Creator/PeterSellers, ''Film/BeingThere''. Infantile, yes. Retarded, no. You went full retard, man. Never go full retard. You don't buy that? Ask Creator/SeanPenn, 2001, ''Film/IAmSam''. Remember? Went full retard, went home empty handed...
30th Aug '16 7:26:34 PM nombretomado
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** ''Fim/RainMan'' arguably kicked off the mental health/capacity boom in 1988. DustinHoffman won Best Actor, and the film also won for Picture, Direction, and Original Screenplay. Other leading man examples include ''Shine'' (won Best Actor) and ''Film/IAmSam'' (Best Actor nomination).

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** ''Fim/RainMan'' arguably kicked off the mental health/capacity boom in 1988. DustinHoffman Creator/DustinHoffman won Best Actor, and the film also won for Picture, Direction, and Original Screenplay. Other leading man examples include ''Shine'' (won Best Actor) and ''Film/IAmSam'' (Best Actor nomination).
26th Aug '16 5:34:42 AM Nithael
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--->'''Kirk Lazarus:''' Everybody knows you never go full retard.
--->'''Tugg Speedman:''' What do you mean?
--->'''Kirk Lazarus:''' Check it out. DustinHoffman, ''Film/RainMan'', look retarded, act retarded, not retarded. Counted toothpicks, cheated cards. Autistic, sho'. Not retarded. You know Creator/TomHanks, ''Film/ForrestGump''. Slow, yes. Retarded, maybe. Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off [[UsefulNotes/RichardNixon Nixon]] and won a ping-pong competition. That ain't retarded. Creator/PeterSellers, ''Film/BeingThere''. Infantile, yes. Retarded, no. You went full retard, man. Never go full retard. You don't buy that? Ask Creator/SeanPenn, 2001, ''Film/IAmSam''. Remember? Went full retard, went home empty handed...
26th Aug '16 3:05:12 AM tsstevens
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** ''Film/WhatsEatingGilbertGrape'' earned Creator/LeonardoDiCaprio his first Oscar nomination for playing a mentally retarded boy. [[SubvertedTrope And despite countless equally exceptional performances, many in baitish movies,]] [[AwardSnub he wouldn't win for another 22 years.]]

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** ''Film/WhatsEatingGilbertGrape'' earned Creator/LeonardoDiCaprio his first Oscar nomination for playing a mentally retarded handicapped boy. [[SubvertedTrope And despite countless equally exceptional performances, many in baitish movies,]] [[AwardSnub he wouldn't win for another 22 years.]]



--->'''Kirk Lazarus:''' Everybody knows you never go full retard.
--->'''Tugg Speedman:''' What do you mean?
--->'''Kirk Lazarus:''' Check it out. DustinHoffman, ''Film/RainMan'', look retarded, act retarded, not retarded. Counted toothpicks, cheated cards. Autistic, sho'. Not retarded. You know Creator/TomHanks, ''Film/ForrestGump''. Slow, yes. Retarded, maybe. Braces on his legs. But he charmed the pants off [[UsefulNotes/RichardNixon Nixon]] and won a ping-pong competition. That ain't retarded. Creator/PeterSellers, ''Film/BeingThere''. Infantile, yes. Retarded, no. You went full retard, man. Never go full retard. You don't buy that? Ask Creator/SeanPenn, 2001, ''Film/IAmSam''. Remember? Went full retard, went home empty handed...
21st Aug '16 12:52:26 PM nombretomado
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* The two "dinner scenes" in ''Film/TheNuttyProfessor'', which featured EddieMurphy playing all the members of his family, were widely credited with giving the film the Best Makeup award over the favorite, ''Film/StarTrekFirstContact''. Thing is, this was completely accidental - the director hated the idea and didn't want to film the sequences, but Eddie Murphy and Rick Baker managed to persuade him to keep them in.

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* The two "dinner scenes" in ''Film/TheNuttyProfessor'', which featured EddieMurphy Creator/EddieMurphy playing all the members of his family, were widely credited with giving the film the Best Makeup award over the favorite, ''Film/StarTrekFirstContact''. Thing is, this was completely accidental - the director hated the idea and didn't want to film the sequences, but Eddie Murphy and Rick Baker managed to persuade him to keep them in.
12th Aug '16 3:50:06 PM Doug86
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* Including ''new'' {{Movie Bonus Song}}s to a Broadway musical score when that musical is made into a movie -- whether the score needed it or not -- to ensure the movie gets an additional "Best Original Song" Oscar nomination. The movie versions of ''Theatre/AChorusLine'', ''Theatre/LittleShopOfHorrors'', ''{{Evita}}'', ''Film/{{Chicago}}'', ''ThePhantomOfTheOpera'', ''{{Theatre/Dreamgirls}}'' and ''Theatre/LesMiserables'' all got original song nominations this way, though "You Must Love Me" from ''Evita'' was the only song among these to actually win the award. (''{{RENT}}'' didn't have any because the writer/composer of the original musical had died just before the show opened off-Broadway.)

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* Including ''new'' {{Movie Bonus Song}}s to a Broadway musical score when that musical is made into a movie -- whether the score needed it or not -- to ensure the movie gets an additional "Best Original Song" Oscar nomination. The movie versions of ''Theatre/AChorusLine'', ''Theatre/LittleShopOfHorrors'', ''{{Evita}}'', ''Film/{{Chicago}}'', ''ThePhantomOfTheOpera'', ''{{Theatre/Dreamgirls}}'' ''Theatre/{{Dreamgirls}}'' and ''Theatre/LesMiserables'' all got original song nominations this way, though "You Must Love Me" from ''Evita'' was the only song among these to actually win the award. (''{{RENT}}'' didn't have any because the writer/composer of the original musical had died just before the show opened off-Broadway.)



** Averted by Creator/JuliaRoberts who finally won her Oscar by donning miniskirts and push-up bras as ErinBrockovich.

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** Averted by Creator/JuliaRoberts who finally won her Oscar by donning miniskirts and push-up bras as ErinBrockovich.''Film/ErinBrockovich''.



* ''{{Film/Joy}}'' - an uplifting biopic in the same vein as ''Film/ErinBrockovich'' with a female empowerment message. To boot it starred Oscar winners Jennifer Lawrence and Robert De Niro, as well as nominee Bradley Cooper. It didn't seem to take, as the only nomination it got was Jennifer Lawrence for Best Actress.

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* ''{{Film/Joy}}'' ''Film/{{Joy}}'' - an uplifting biopic in the same vein as ''Film/ErinBrockovich'' with a female empowerment message. To boot it starred Oscar winners Jennifer Lawrence and Robert De Niro, as well as nominee Bradley Cooper. It didn't seem to take, as the only nomination it got was Jennifer Lawrence for Best Actress.



* The Animated Feature category established in 2001 may ghettoize the form, but the voters are now more open to nominating independent efforts such as ''{{ComicBook/Persepolis}}'' and often eschew QualityByPopularVote (''Anime/SpiritedAway'''s 2002 win, [[Anime/HowlsMovingCastle the]] [[WallaceAndGromit 2005]] [[WesternAnimation/CorpseBride nominees]]). On the other hand, anime films have been snubbed from nominations unless they are Creator/StudioGhibli efforts that benefit from U.S. distributor Disney's lobbying -- no matter how much Oscar Bait they scream, they [[Anime/FiveCentimetersPerSecond will]] [[Literature/{{Paprika}} remain]] [[Anime/SwordOfTheStranger in the cold]]. (Even ''with'' Disney's distribution, [[Anime/PonyoOnTheCliffByTheSea there's still no guarantee]]...) Motion-capture films have similar problems.

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* The Animated Feature category established in 2001 may ghettoize the form, but the voters are now more open to nominating independent efforts such as ''{{ComicBook/Persepolis}}'' ''ComicBook/{{Persepolis}}'' and often eschew QualityByPopularVote (''Anime/SpiritedAway'''s 2002 win, [[Anime/HowlsMovingCastle the]] [[WallaceAndGromit 2005]] [[WesternAnimation/CorpseBride nominees]]). On the other hand, anime films have been snubbed from nominations unless they are Creator/StudioGhibli efforts that benefit from U.S. distributor Disney's lobbying -- no matter how much Oscar Bait they scream, they [[Anime/FiveCentimetersPerSecond will]] [[Literature/{{Paprika}} remain]] [[Anime/SwordOfTheStranger in the cold]]. (Even ''with'' Disney's distribution, [[Anime/PonyoOnTheCliffByTheSea there's still no guarantee]]...) Motion-capture films have similar problems.



* ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'' and ''{{Film/Titanic 1997}}'' were about trying to get dream projects on screen, not about winning Oscars. Yet one got a sweep, and the other got almost all of its awards, though the former did not do so until the entire trilogy was finished (it's suggested the awards for ''Return of the King'' apply to the whole trilogy as the Academy didn't want a three-year shutout). Both films were widely praised and made a ridiculous amount of money and remain excessively popular to this day, even factoring in the usual HypeBacklash.

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* ''Film/TheLordOfTheRings'' and ''{{Film/Titanic ''Film/{{Titanic 1997}}'' were about trying to get dream projects on screen, not about winning Oscars. Yet one got a sweep, and the other got almost all of its awards, though the former did not do so until the entire trilogy was finished (it's suggested the awards for ''Return of the King'' apply to the whole trilogy as the Academy didn't want a three-year shutout). Both films were widely praised and made a ridiculous amount of money and remain excessively popular to this day, even factoring in the usual HypeBacklash.



* The 1976 ''{{Literature/Carrie}}'' is a horror movie and is thought of as nothing but. However, it got two acting Oscar nominations for Sissy Spacek and Piper Laurie back in the day.

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* The 1976 ''{{Literature/Carrie}}'' ''Literature/{{Carrie}}'' is a horror movie and is thought of as nothing but. However, it got two acting Oscar nominations for Sissy Spacek and Piper Laurie back in the day.



* In ''{{Series/Extras}}'', Creator/KateWinslet plays in a movie about the Holocaust because of this. What makes this HilariousInHindsight is that she would win Best Actress in 2008 for ''Film/TheReader''... a Holocaust movie.

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* In ''{{Series/Extras}}'', ''Series/{{Extras}}'', Creator/KateWinslet plays in a movie about the Holocaust because of this. What makes this HilariousInHindsight is that she would win Best Actress in 2008 for ''Film/TheReader''... a Holocaust movie.



* On ''{{Series/Castle}}'', one of the suspects is an actor who says he's playing Creator/MattDamon's "[[InspirationallyDisadvantaged half-wit]]" father and that "It's got nominations written all over it."

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* On ''{{Series/Castle}}'', ''Series/{{Castle}}'', one of the suspects is an actor who says he's playing Creator/MattDamon's "[[InspirationallyDisadvantaged half-wit]]" father and that "It's got nominations written all over it."



* ''Nerd to the Third Power'' host Dr. Gonzo swore up and down that ''{{Precious}}'' would win best picture, because "It's about an underprivileged black rape victim who gives birth to an incest baby with down syndrome. I haven't even SEEN the movie and I already want to kill myself! It HAS to win!" Those keeping score will know the ''The Hurt Locker'' won Best Picture that year.

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* ''Nerd to the Third Power'' host Dr. Gonzo swore up and down that ''{{Precious}}'' ''Film/{{Precious}}'' would win best picture, because "It's about an underprivileged black rape victim who gives birth to an incest baby with down syndrome. I haven't even SEEN the movie and I already want to kill myself! It HAS to win!" Those keeping score will know the ''The Hurt Locker'' won Best Picture that year.
11th Aug '16 5:25:21 AM Morgenthaler
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** [[spoiler: It is a {{costume drama}} set in {{Nazi Germany}} about a "[[NinjaPirateZombieRobot disabled homosexual Jew]]", which takes the typical Oscar Bait tropes of {{inspirationally disadvantaged}}, {{large ham}}, {{ill girl}}, {{bury your gays}}, {{rousing speech}} and {{final solution}} all up to their [[UpToEleven logical extremes]], while [[TrueArtIsAngsty overflowing with]] {{wangst}} and {{tear jerker}} .]]

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** [[spoiler: It is a {{costume drama}} set in {{Nazi UsefulNotes/{{Nazi Germany}} about a "[[NinjaPirateZombieRobot disabled homosexual Jew]]", which takes the typical Oscar Bait tropes of {{inspirationally disadvantaged}}, {{large ham}}, {{ill girl}}, {{bury your gays}}, {{rousing speech}} and {{final solution}} all up to their [[UpToEleven logical extremes]], while [[TrueArtIsAngsty overflowing with]] {{wangst}} and {{tear jerker}} .]]
9th Aug '16 8:23:33 AM WhatArtThee
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Unfortunately, it isn't so. Because [[UsefulNotes/AcademyAward Oscars]] get people to the theater, and because ticket sales increase a studio's bottom line, movie studios and producers have come up with many schemes to get Oscars for their films. Nevertheless, for a long time, the kinds of movies that won Oscars were enjoyed by both the public and the critics, though not all of them have aged well. Often, bigger was better for budgets and box-office receipts.

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Unfortunately, it isn't so. Because [[UsefulNotes/AcademyAward Oscars]] get people to the theater, and because ticket sales increase a studio's bottom line, movie studios and producers have come up with many schemes to get Oscars for their films. Nevertheless, for a long time, the kinds of movies that won Oscars were enjoyed by both the public and the critics, though not all of them have aged well.critics. Often, bigger was better for budgets and box-office receipts.
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