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28th Mar '16 6:10:54 AM Hanz
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** Season three has the Red Lotus, a splinter group of the White Lotus who are essentially [[BombThrowingAnarchists anarcho-primitivists]] who revere Vaatu who wish to destroy all governments and establish a new, more spiritual world. In the words of their leader, "The natural order is disorder". Season 4's main villain is Kuvira's [[TheEmpire Earth Empire]], a force of absolute order.

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** Season three has the Red Lotus, a splinter group of the White Lotus who are essentially [[BombThrowingAnarchists anarcho-primitivists]] who revere that revered Vaatu who and wish to destroy all governments and establish a new, more spiritual world. In the words of their leader, "The natural order is disorder". Season 4's main villain is Kuvira's [[TheEmpire Earth Empire]], a force of absolute order.
21st Mar '16 10:22:17 AM DaibhidC
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* Classic ''Series/DoctorWho'' had the Black and White Guardians, cheerleaders for chaos and order, respectively.

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* Classic ''Series/DoctorWho'' had the Black and White Guardians, cheerleaders for chaos and order, respectively. While the Black Guardian generally appeared as a villian, it was suggested (and confirmed in the DoctorWhoExpandedUniverse) that the White Guardian was just as bad. (The ''AudioPlay/BigFinishDoctorWho'' arc "Key 2 Time" introduce the Grace, who seem to be Balance [[spoiler: and are possibly worse than the Guardians put together]].)
15th Mar '16 1:48:06 PM Morgenthaler
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* ''ComicBook/NemesisTheWarlock'' pits the titular powerful alien wizard in service of [[XtremeKoolLetterz Kaos]] against the tyrannical bigot ruling humanity, Torquemada. At first it looks like Chaos/Nemesis is good and Order/Torquemada is bad, but as the series goes it becomes clear Nemesis is manipulating both people around him and readers as well to potray himself as a hero, but in reality is cruel, bored god prolonging the war for his own amusment, because Torquemada is the only man to give him any challenge. At the end it's clear they are both bastards.

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* ''ComicBook/NemesisTheWarlock'' pits the titular powerful alien wizard in service of [[XtremeKoolLetterz Kaos]] against the tyrannical bigot ruling humanity, Torquemada. At first it looks like Chaos/Nemesis is good and Order/Torquemada is bad, but as the series goes it becomes clear Nemesis is manipulating both people around him and readers as well to potray portray himself as a hero, but in reality is a cruel, bored god [[BloodKnight prolonging the war for his own amusment, amusment]], because Torquemada is the only man to give him any challenge. At the end it's clear they are both bastards.
7th Mar '16 8:04:08 PM thatmadork
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Civilization}}'' ''V'', you can choose one of three mutually exclusive ideologies as your Civ progresses into the modern age. Freedom (Chaos) represents capitalism, is all about empowering the individual, and is great for giving smaller, more peaceful Civs a much needed leg-up by giving bonuses to culture, happiness, tourism and diplomacy, and also [[SuperweaponSurprise gives some defensive bonuses to the military]]. Order ([[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin you'll never guess]]) represents Marxist-Communism, works by empowering the state, and is good for sprawling (but not necessarily aggressive) empires with lots of industrial buildings as it gives bonuses to food, production and population, and gives them out on a per-city basis. Autocracy (OmnicidalNeutral), representing Fascism, is all about empowering the great leader at the very top and giving huge bonuses to all things military, allowing you to build armies faster, more cheaply, in greater numbers and even improving the individual combat power of units. Civs tend to get along better with other Civs of the same ideology and some even have preferred ideologies: for example, the Americans and French prefer Freedom, the Chinese prefer Order, and the Germans [[AllGermansAreNazis unfortunately]] prefer Autocracy.
1st Feb '16 6:19:31 PM nombretomado
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* In TadWilliams ''The Dirty Streets of Heaven'' Heaven is Order and Hell Chaos but while demons are definitely evil Heaven is implied to be a CrapsaccharineWorld with the higher orders playing Machiavellian games and the "saved" playing forever in the Elysian Fields at the cost of their memories and personalities which has led some on both sides to seek a Third Way.

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* In TadWilliams Creator/TadWilliams ''The Dirty Streets of Heaven'' Heaven is Order and Hell Chaos but while demons are definitely evil Heaven is implied to be a CrapsaccharineWorld with the higher orders playing Machiavellian games and the "saved" playing forever in the Elysian Fields at the cost of their memories and personalities which has led some on both sides to seek a Third Way.
22nd Jan '16 7:47:49 AM Redkun
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* ''VideoGame/BladeAndSoul'' has this theme running through its main PlayerVersusPlayer factions. The Cerulean Order is a well-intentioned dictatorship which believes society functions best when people are assigned to the role most suited to their natural talents and skill set. The Crimson Legion advocates complete social mobility and believes any form of stable government will naturally lead towards corruption and tyranny.
21st Jan '16 7:48:19 PM PaulA
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* ''Literature/TheTravellerInBlack'' by Creator/JohnBrunner is set in a magical land where the struggle between Order and Chaos underlies everything. The Traveller himself is an agent of Order.
16th Jan '16 7:43:29 AM Morgenthaler
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* In the ''EmpireOfThePetalThrone'', Order and Chaos are called Stability and Change, respectively. They are not exactly at war, but they are often opposed. Interestingly, they tend to mirror each other. There's a Stability Sun Deity and a Change Sun Deity, for example. Neither is necessarily good or evil.

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* In the ''EmpireOfThePetalThrone'', ''TabletopGame/EmpireOfThePetalThrone'', Order and Chaos are called Stability and Change, respectively. They are not exactly at war, but they are often opposed. Interestingly, they tend to mirror each other. There's a Stability Sun Deity and a Change Sun Deity, for example. Neither is necessarily good or evil.
10th Jan '16 4:41:45 PM NOYB
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* In the EmpireOfThePetalThrone Order and Chaos are called Stability and Change, respectively. They are not exactly at war, but they are often opposed. Interestingly, they tend to mirror each other. There's a Stability Sun Deity and a Change Sun Deity, for example. Neither is necessarily good or evil.

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* In the EmpireOfThePetalThrone ''EmpireOfThePetalThrone'', Order and Chaos are called Stability and Change, respectively. They are not exactly at war, but they are often opposed. Interestingly, they tend to mirror each other. There's a Stability Sun Deity and a Change Sun Deity, for example. Neither is necessarily good or evil.
10th Jan '16 4:33:46 PM NOYB
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* In White Wolf's other TabletopRPG, ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'', traces of this are also present. The Wyld is a place instead of a force, but one which TheFairFolk inhabit as the representatives of Chaos. Order is represented by the Sidereal Exalted and their Celestial Bureaucracy, as well as by the Realm of the Dragon Blooded.
* ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' has a similar system of moral alignment for characters which opposes Evil to Good, and Law to Chaos.

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* In White Wolf's other TabletopRPG, ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'', traces of this are also present. The Wyld is a place instead of a force, but one which that TheFairFolk inhabit as the representatives of Chaos. Order is represented by the Sidereal Exalted and their Celestial Bureaucracy, as well as by the Realm of the Dragon Blooded.
* ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' has a similar system of moral alignment for characters which that opposes Evil to Good, and Law to Chaos.
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