History Main / OrderVersusChaos

7th Jun '18 11:26:26 PM MM_Crusader
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* Wrestling/CMPunk has been on both sides of this in recent years. He's been a force of Chaos operating against the authority in the WWE in the form of John Laurinitis and Wrestling/TripleH. However, in his recent feud against Wrestling/JeffHardy, Punk played the role of Order, contrasting his personal dedication to the Straight Edge lifestyle against Jeff's excessive self-indulgence.

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* Wrestling/CMPunk has been on both sides of this in recent years. He's been a force of Chaos operating against the authority in the WWE in the form of John Laurinitis and Wrestling/TripleH. Wrestling/TripleH from 2011 to 2012. However, in his recent earlier feud against Wrestling/JeffHardy, Punk played the role of Order, contrasting his personal dedication to the Straight Edge lifestyle against Jeff's excessive self-indulgence.
2nd Jun '18 6:35:54 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** ''FanFic/LinesAndWebs'': The conflict of order and chaos is extremely important for the beginning of the series, with Celestia and the Order she represents being portrayed as evil while Twilight and the Chaos she represents portrayed as good - although the series is heavy on GreyandGreyMorality. Eventually [[GenghisGambit Order and Chaos unite]] against [[BiggerBad and even greater threat.]]

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** ''FanFic/LinesAndWebs'': The conflict of order and chaos is extremely important for the beginning of the series, with Celestia and the Order she represents being portrayed as evil while Twilight and the Chaos she represents portrayed as good - although the series is heavy on GreyandGreyMorality. Eventually [[GenghisGambit Order and Chaos unite]] against [[BiggerBad and even greater threat.]]
15th May '18 7:06:01 AM Keybreak
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* ''Series/{{Firefly}}'': The chaos-loving Independents (which comprises Our Heroes) vs. the order-loving Alliance (the antagonists, responsible for a number of nasty things in the name of the greater good, but still more noble-minded and sympathetic than, say, the Empire from ''Franchise/StarWars''). The Unification War is a more complicated matter. [[note]] The "EternalProhibition" was left on Earth-That-Was, everyone was permitted weapons, and taxes were both the lowest of any government in history and actually treated as ''charity''. A lot of Independents weren't all that nice; thugs and debt slavers right out of Creator/CharlesDickens. It was when the war was declared that it got worse. [[/note]]. Then you have the AlwaysChaoticEvil Reavers [[spoilers: Who were created by the Alliance]]

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* ''Series/{{Firefly}}'': The chaos-loving Independents (which comprises Our Heroes) vs. the order-loving Alliance (the antagonists, responsible for a number of nasty things in the name of the greater good, but still more noble-minded and sympathetic than, say, the Empire from ''Franchise/StarWars''). The Unification War is a more complicated matter. [[note]] The "EternalProhibition" was left on Earth-That-Was, everyone was permitted weapons, and taxes were both the lowest of any government in history and actually treated as ''charity''. A lot of Independents weren't all that nice; thugs and debt slavers right out of Creator/CharlesDickens. It was when the war was declared that it got worse. [[/note]]. Then you have the AlwaysChaoticEvil Reavers [[spoilers: Who [[spoiler:who were created by the Alliance]]
30th Apr '18 3:02:55 PM Malady
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* {{Downplayed}} in the ''[[TheMoomins Moomins]]'' stories, where the protagonists tend to be ChaoticGood and others such as hemulens are often LawfulStupid. It's never a major conflict, but at least in one book we find Snufkin and his father waging a sort of guerilla war of annoyance against wardens of a park for children who are enforcing such strict rules that no one's having any fun.

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* {{Downplayed}} in the ''[[TheMoomins Moomins]]'' ''Literature/TheMoomins'' stories, where the protagonists tend to be ChaoticGood and others such as hemulens are often LawfulStupid. It's never a major conflict, but at least in one book we find Snufkin and his father waging a sort of guerilla war of annoyance against wardens of a park for children who are enforcing such strict rules that no one's having any fun.
22nd Apr '18 6:24:59 PM MadAnthony94
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* ComicBook/{{Batman}} and ComicBook/TheJoker are Order and Chaos respectively.
** Batman upholds justice and the rule of law (the spirit if not always the letter). His mental discipline is the closest thing he has to a superpower, and prevents him from going mad in spite of all he has to deal with. Unquestionably a good guy, but difficult to get along with, and the possibility that a loss of human contact would drive him to KnightTemplar tendencies is a disquieting one.
** The Joker is strongly anti-authoritarian and anti-society, indiscriminately destructive, and downright insane. He's unquestionably evil, though sometimes his antics are meant to expose hypocrisy or evil in other people.
8th Apr '18 10:44:04 PM MagBas
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** Dr. Cocteau is a LawfulEvil [[WellIntentionedExtremist benevolent dictator]] who has built a future world where anything that can offend or harm anybody is banned and maintaining civil, peaceful coexistence has usurped the value of life in importance. To this end, the following things are banned: guns, alcohol, swearing, caffeine, sexual intercourse, contact sports, chocolate, non-educational children's toys and spicy food.
** Simon Phoenix is an archetypal ChaoticEvil villain: a violent psycho who hates rules because they stop him from behaving like a violent psycho. [[spoiler:After he murders Cocteau]], he and his unfrozen gang want to turn San Angeles into a lawless hellhole where they can commit crimes all day, everyday.
** Edgar Friendly is ChaoticGood: an iconoclast leading a gang in the sewers against the Cocteau regime. He fights so people have the right to eat real food, listen to real music, have real sex and generally make their own choices. Cocteau wants him dead for it.

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** Dr. Cocteau is a LawfulEvil [[WellIntentionedExtremist benevolent dictator]] who has built a future world where anything that can offend or harm anybody is banned and maintaining civil, peaceful coexistence has usurped the value of life in importance. To this end, the following things are banned: guns, alcohol, swearing, caffeine, sexual intercourse, contact sports, chocolate, non-educational children's toys and spicy food.
** Simon Phoenix is an archetypal ChaoticEvil villain: a violent psycho who hates rules because they stop him from behaving like a violent psycho. [[spoiler:After he murders Cocteau]], he and his unfrozen gang want to turn San Angeles into a lawless hellhole where they can commit crimes all day, everyday.
** Edgar Friendly is ChaoticGood: an iconoclast leading a gang in the sewers against the Cocteau regime. He fights so people have the right to eat real food, listen to real music, have real sex and generally make their own choices. Cocteau wants him dead for it.
8th Apr '18 9:54:01 PM nombretomado
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* In the original ''Film/MadMax'', Max and the police force represent order, whereas the biker gangs represent chaos.

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* In the original ''Film/MadMax'', ''Film/MadMax1'', Max and the police force represent order, whereas the biker gangs represent chaos.
24th Mar '18 9:24:48 AM Morgenthaler
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** Dr. Cocteau is a [[WellIntentionedExtremist benevolent dictator]] who has built a future world where anything that can offend or harm anybody is banned and maintaining civil, peaceful coexistence has usurped the value of life in importance. To this end, the following things are banned: guns, alcohol, swearing, caffeine, sexual intercourse, contact sports, chocolate, non-educational children's toys and spicy food.

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** Dr. Cocteau is a LawfulEvil [[WellIntentionedExtremist benevolent dictator]] who has built a future world where anything that can offend or harm anybody is banned and maintaining civil, peaceful coexistence has usurped the value of life in importance. To this end, the following things are banned: guns, alcohol, swearing, caffeine, sexual intercourse, contact sports, chocolate, non-educational children's toys and spicy food.
24th Mar '18 8:18:41 AM Morgenthaler
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* The order-chaos dynamic is what the dimensions on the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_compass political compass]] amount to, designed in order to illustrate a slightly more complex graph of political ideologies compared to the traditional left-right spectrum. The X-axis measures the extent to which economic enterprise is controlled (far left is extreme central market planning, far right is extreme unregulated market capitalism), the Y-axis measures the extent to which moral norms are enforced (the far top is extreme authoritarian social control, the far bottom is extreme atomization of social mores).
23rd Mar '18 3:01:38 PM cybertoy0
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* In ''VideoGame/WildStar'', this is ultimately the conflict between [[TheEmpire The Dominion]] and [[ArmyOfThievesAndWhores The Exiles]]; Those that join and become citizens of the Dominion and obeys their laws are granted rights like education. If you don't obey, you get swept aside. The Exiles consist of those who got "Swept aside" and are trying to live their own lives free, but they've become criminals just to survive.
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