History Main / OppressiveStatesOfAmerica

3rd Nov '17 4:58:24 AM Morgenthaler
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** The AlternateUniverse that the [[EvilCounterpart Dark Judges]] hailed from was at first depicted ambiguously, but more recent stories have set it in a clear analogue of the United States. Somehow the fascist police state created there was even ''worse'' than in Judge Dredd's world, with the judges being closer to psychotic mass murderers than oppressive bullies.

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** The AlternateUniverse that the [[EvilCounterpart Dark Judges]] hailed from was at first depicted ambiguously, but more recent stories have set it in a clear analogue of the United States. Somehow the fascist police state created there was even ''worse'' than in Judge Dredd's world, with the judges being closer ultimately deciding to psychotic mass murderers than oppressive bullies.just wipe out their whole population in the name of law.
18th Oct '17 11:21:47 AM xcountryguy
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* ''Series/{{Charmed}}'''s 6th season has [[KidFromTheFuture Chris]] who comes back in time to help [[SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong prevent an accident]] that causes [[spoiler: Wyatt]] to lose all sense of morality and take control via magic - it's not clear whether this is actually just America or [[CrapsackWorld the whole world]].

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* ''Series/{{Charmed}}'''s 6th season has [[KidFromTheFuture Chris]] who comes back in time to help [[SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong prevent an accident]] that causes [[spoiler: Wyatt]] [[spoiler:Wyatt]] to lose all sense of morality and take control via magic - it's not clear whether this is actually just America or [[CrapsackWorld the whole world]].



* ''Series/PersonOfInterest'' The fourth season's plot is basically the story of how [[spoiler: The Samaritan artificial intelligence system]] begins constructing one before moving onto the world. Building a large network of politicians to do its bidding, creating the means to brainwash the next generation of American children and manipulating the intel given to counter-terrorist operatives are just the tip of the iceberg of the steps it takes to achieve its goal.

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* ''Series/PersonOfInterest'' The fourth season's plot is basically the story of how [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The Samaritan artificial intelligence system]] begins constructing one before moving onto the world. Building a large network of politicians to do its bidding, creating the means to brainwash the next generation of American children and manipulating the intel given to counter-terrorist operatives are just the tip of the iceberg of the steps it takes to achieve its goal.



* ''VideoGame/DeusEx'': Freedoms have been curbed to fight off "excessive terrorism." After the Northwest war before the game starts, parts of the nation are still under martial law. [[spoiler: As the world continues to go to shit, the nation goes under full-fledged martial law in order to control rising civil unrest.]]

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* ''VideoGame/DeusEx'': Freedoms have been curbed to fight off "excessive terrorism." After the Northwest war before the game starts, parts of the nation are still under martial law. [[spoiler: As [[spoiler:As the world continues to go to shit, the nation goes under full-fledged martial law in order to control rising civil unrest.]]



** [[spoiler: After Rumsfeld is thrown out of office, his successor, the conservative Jeremiah Denton, decides to serve out the remainder of his term and restore human rights after [[HeelRealization being horrified by what Rumsfeld did]]. Unfortunately, his own fundamentalist allies swept him from power. By 1990, they've create a totalitarian theocracy under the rule of Douglas Coe, and have unleashed nuclear weapons in a civil war against breakaway states]].

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** [[spoiler: After [[spoiler:After Rumsfeld is thrown out of office, his successor, the conservative Jeremiah Denton, decides to serve out the remainder of his term and restore human rights after [[HeelRealization being horrified by what Rumsfeld did]]. Unfortunately, his own fundamentalist allies swept him from power. By 1990, they've create a totalitarian theocracy under the rule of Douglas Coe, and have unleashed nuclear weapons in a civil war against breakaway states]].



* In ''Literature/NoW'', America quickly becomes this under President [[spoiler: Rick Santorum]], who starts turning it into a theocratic dictatorship. Political opponents and public figures who criticize him tend to either die in [[MakeItLookLikeAnAccident plane crashes]], get arrested on trumped up charges, or outright disappear. Laws are passed that discriminate against the LGBT community as sacrilegious, and ban video games or television shows that have even the slightest adult content. And eventually, the Muslim population is rounded up in "protection centers", supposedly to protect them from bigotry, but it is implied they're a precursor for extermination camps.

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* In ''Literature/NoW'', America quickly becomes this under President [[spoiler: Rick [[spoiler:Rick Santorum]], who starts turning it into a theocratic dictatorship. Political opponents and public figures who criticize him tend to either die in [[MakeItLookLikeAnAccident plane crashes]], get arrested on trumped up charges, or outright disappear. Laws are passed that discriminate against the LGBT community as sacrilegious, and ban video games or television shows that have even the slightest adult content. And eventually, the Muslim population is rounded up in "protection centers", supposedly to protect them from bigotry, but it is implied they're a precursor for extermination camps.
14th Oct '17 1:23:46 PM 64SuperNintendo
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* Before the ruling of ''Loving vs. Virgnia'' in 1967, numerous states [[MalignedMixedMarriage had laws that banned whites from marrying non whites,]] and breaking these laws often resulted in the guilty parties serving time behind bars.

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* Before the ruling of ''Loving vs. Virgnia'' Virginia'' in 1967, numerous states [[MalignedMixedMarriage had laws that banned whites from marrying non whites,]] and breaking these laws often resulted in the guilty parties serving time behind bars.
16th Sep '17 5:13:28 PM nombretomado
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Expect to see FEMA, DHS agents, cops that are always clad in riot gear, or even the [[YanksWithTanks military]] patrolling the streets, [[PoliceBrutality harassing innocent citizens for arbitrary crimes or by virtue of simply "being there."]] Civil rights have been suspended for the "greater good," and political dissidents are [[ReleasedToElsewhere shipped off to concentration camps or made to "quietly disappear", never to be seen again]].

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Expect to see FEMA, DHS agents, cops that are always clad in riot gear, or even the [[YanksWithTanks [[UsefulNotes/YanksWithTanks military]] patrolling the streets, [[PoliceBrutality harassing innocent citizens for arbitrary crimes or by virtue of simply "being there."]] Civil rights have been suspended for the "greater good," and political dissidents are [[ReleasedToElsewhere shipped off to concentration camps or made to "quietly disappear", never to be seen again]].
3rd Sep '17 10:34:18 PM Lanes17B
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* Before the ruling of ''Loving vs. Virgnia'' in 1967, numerous states [[MalignedMixedMarriage had laws that banned whites from marrying non whites,]] and breaking these laws often resulted in the guilty parties serving time behind bars.
28th Jul '17 11:45:07 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'': Richard Nixon is closing in on his fifth term, crime is rampant all over the country and ZeppelinsFromAnotherWorld are shown to be watching over all the streets. This example is not quite as extreme as some others, though - a free press of sorts still exists, and at the end of the comic it looks like Nixon is going to lose the election to Creator/RobertRedford. Also in ''Before Watchmen'', it is revealed that because of the Red Scare, the Costume Vigilantes were made to show their identities and prove they were not involved with the Russians.

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* ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'': Richard Nixon is closing in on his fifth term, crime is rampant all over the country and ZeppelinsFromAnotherWorld are shown to be watching over all the streets. This example is not quite as extreme as some others, though - a free press of sorts still exists, and at the end of the comic it looks like Nixon is going to lose the election to Creator/RobertRedford. Also in ''Before Watchmen'', it is revealed that because of the Red Scare, the Costume Vigilantes were made to show their identities and prove they were not involved with the Russians. This example is not quite as extreme as some others, though - a free press of sorts still exists, and at the end of the comic it looks like Nixon is going to lose the election to Creator/RobertRedford.
28th Jul '17 11:44:03 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'': Richard Nixon is closing in on his fifth term, crime is rampant all over the country and ZeppelinsFromAnotherWorld are shown to be watching over all the streets.
** This example is not quite as extreme as some others, though - a free press of sorts still exists, and at the end of the comic it looks like Nixon is going to lose the election to Creator/RobertRedford.
** Also in Before Watchmen, it is revealed that because of the Red Scare, the Costume Vigilantes were made to show their identities and prove they were not involved with the Russians.

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* ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'': Richard Nixon is closing in on his fifth term, crime is rampant all over the country and ZeppelinsFromAnotherWorld are shown to be watching over all the streets.
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streets. This example is not quite as extreme as some others, though - a free press of sorts still exists, and at the end of the comic it looks like Nixon is going to lose the election to Creator/RobertRedford.
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Creator/RobertRedford. Also in Before Watchmen, ''Before Watchmen'', it is revealed that because of the Red Scare, the Costume Vigilantes were made to show their identities and prove they were not involved with the Russians.
25th Jul '17 2:25:50 PM Morgenthaler
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In a political work that is left-leaning, expect to see this trope overlap with The Boorish version of {{Eagleland}}, an America where [[CorruptChurch separation of church and state no longer exists]] and in which the [[EveryManHasHisPrice government is in the pockets]] of [[CorruptCorporateExecutive crooked businessmen]] and [[GeneralRipper warmongers]] - or a [[WarForFunAndProfit combination of both]]. Right-leaning works will favor a CommieLand America, with shades of either old-style Stalinism or '60s radicalism depending on the period the work came from; or since the end of the ColdWar, [[WarOnTerror radical Islamists imposing Sharia law]]. Libertarian works will often take elements of both of these portrayals.

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In a political work that is left-leaning, expect to see this trope overlap with The Boorish version of {{Eagleland}}, an America where [[CorruptChurch [[TheTheocracy separation of church and state no longer exists]] and in which the [[EveryManHasHisPrice government is in the pockets]] of [[CorruptCorporateExecutive crooked businessmen]] and [[GeneralRipper warmongers]] - or a [[WarForFunAndProfit combination of both]]. Right-leaning works will favor a CommieLand America, with shades of either old-style Stalinism or '60s radicalism depending on the period the work came from; or since the end of the ColdWar, [[WarOnTerror radical Islamists imposing Sharia law]]. Libertarian works will often take elements of both of these portrayals.
25th Jul '17 2:11:18 PM Morgenthaler
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** America has been [[BalkanizeMe split]] into three independent mega-cities, each of which is a fascist police state. Somewhat atypical in that the main characters are the Judges, i.e. the ones who are ''enforcing'' the police state, yet they mostly aren't portrayed negatively. Primarily because the Dreddverse is an extreme CrapsackWorld that has been on the brink of total destruction each time the Judges weren't there.

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** America has been [[BalkanizeMe split]] into three independent mega-cities, each of which is a fascist police state. Somewhat atypical in that the main characters are the Judges, i.e. the ones who are ''enforcing'' the police state, yet they mostly aren't portrayed negatively. Primarily because the Dreddverse is an extreme CrapsackWorld that has been on the brink of total destruction each time the Judges weren't there.there to hold the line.
25th Jul '17 2:09:14 PM Morgenthaler
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* In ''Comicbook/JudgeDredd'', America has been [[BalkanizeMe split]] into three independent mega-cities, each of which is a fascist police state. Somewhat atypical in that the main characters are the Judges, i.e. the ones who are ''enforcing'' the police state, yet they mostly aren't portrayed negatively. Primarily because the Dreddverse is an extreme CrapsackWorld that has been on the brink of total destruction each time the Judges weren't there.

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* In ''Comicbook/JudgeDredd'', ''Comicbook/JudgeDredd'':
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America has been [[BalkanizeMe split]] into three independent mega-cities, each of which is a fascist police state. Somewhat atypical in that the main characters are the Judges, i.e. the ones who are ''enforcing'' the police state, yet they mostly aren't portrayed negatively. Primarily because the Dreddverse is an extreme CrapsackWorld that has been on the brink of total destruction each time the Judges weren't there.there.
** The AlternateUniverse that the [[EvilCounterpart Dark Judges]] hailed from was at first depicted ambiguously, but more recent stories have set it in a clear analogue of the United States. Somehow the fascist police state created there was even ''worse'' than in Judge Dredd's world, with the judges being closer to psychotic mass murderers than oppressive bullies.
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