History Main / OppressiveStatesOfAmerica

28th Jul '17 11:45:07 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'': Richard Nixon is closing in on his fifth term, crime is rampant all over the country and ZeppelinsFromAnotherWorld are shown to be watching over all the streets. This example is not quite as extreme as some others, though - a free press of sorts still exists, and at the end of the comic it looks like Nixon is going to lose the election to Creator/RobertRedford. Also in ''Before Watchmen'', it is revealed that because of the Red Scare, the Costume Vigilantes were made to show their identities and prove they were not involved with the Russians.

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* ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'': Richard Nixon is closing in on his fifth term, crime is rampant all over the country and ZeppelinsFromAnotherWorld are shown to be watching over all the streets. This example is not quite as extreme as some others, though - a free press of sorts still exists, and at the end of the comic it looks like Nixon is going to lose the election to Creator/RobertRedford. Also in ''Before Watchmen'', it is revealed that because of the Red Scare, the Costume Vigilantes were made to show their identities and prove they were not involved with the Russians. This example is not quite as extreme as some others, though - a free press of sorts still exists, and at the end of the comic it looks like Nixon is going to lose the election to Creator/RobertRedford.
28th Jul '17 11:44:03 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'': Richard Nixon is closing in on his fifth term, crime is rampant all over the country and ZeppelinsFromAnotherWorld are shown to be watching over all the streets.
** This example is not quite as extreme as some others, though - a free press of sorts still exists, and at the end of the comic it looks like Nixon is going to lose the election to Creator/RobertRedford.
** Also in Before Watchmen, it is revealed that because of the Red Scare, the Costume Vigilantes were made to show their identities and prove they were not involved with the Russians.

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* ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'': Richard Nixon is closing in on his fifth term, crime is rampant all over the country and ZeppelinsFromAnotherWorld are shown to be watching over all the streets.
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streets. This example is not quite as extreme as some others, though - a free press of sorts still exists, and at the end of the comic it looks like Nixon is going to lose the election to Creator/RobertRedford.
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Creator/RobertRedford. Also in Before Watchmen, ''Before Watchmen'', it is revealed that because of the Red Scare, the Costume Vigilantes were made to show their identities and prove they were not involved with the Russians.
25th Jul '17 2:25:50 PM Morgenthaler
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In a political work that is left-leaning, expect to see this trope overlap with The Boorish version of {{Eagleland}}, an America where [[CorruptChurch separation of church and state no longer exists]] and in which the [[EveryManHasHisPrice government is in the pockets]] of [[CorruptCorporateExecutive crooked businessmen]] and [[GeneralRipper warmongers]] - or a [[WarForFunAndProfit combination of both]]. Right-leaning works will favor a CommieLand America, with shades of either old-style Stalinism or '60s radicalism depending on the period the work came from; or since the end of the ColdWar, [[WarOnTerror radical Islamists imposing Sharia law]]. Libertarian works will often take elements of both of these portrayals.

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In a political work that is left-leaning, expect to see this trope overlap with The Boorish version of {{Eagleland}}, an America where [[CorruptChurch [[TheTheocracy separation of church and state no longer exists]] and in which the [[EveryManHasHisPrice government is in the pockets]] of [[CorruptCorporateExecutive crooked businessmen]] and [[GeneralRipper warmongers]] - or a [[WarForFunAndProfit combination of both]]. Right-leaning works will favor a CommieLand America, with shades of either old-style Stalinism or '60s radicalism depending on the period the work came from; or since the end of the ColdWar, [[WarOnTerror radical Islamists imposing Sharia law]]. Libertarian works will often take elements of both of these portrayals.
25th Jul '17 2:11:18 PM Morgenthaler
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** America has been [[BalkanizeMe split]] into three independent mega-cities, each of which is a fascist police state. Somewhat atypical in that the main characters are the Judges, i.e. the ones who are ''enforcing'' the police state, yet they mostly aren't portrayed negatively. Primarily because the Dreddverse is an extreme CrapsackWorld that has been on the brink of total destruction each time the Judges weren't there.

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** America has been [[BalkanizeMe split]] into three independent mega-cities, each of which is a fascist police state. Somewhat atypical in that the main characters are the Judges, i.e. the ones who are ''enforcing'' the police state, yet they mostly aren't portrayed negatively. Primarily because the Dreddverse is an extreme CrapsackWorld that has been on the brink of total destruction each time the Judges weren't there.there to hold the line.
25th Jul '17 2:09:14 PM Morgenthaler
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* In ''Comicbook/JudgeDredd'', America has been [[BalkanizeMe split]] into three independent mega-cities, each of which is a fascist police state. Somewhat atypical in that the main characters are the Judges, i.e. the ones who are ''enforcing'' the police state, yet they mostly aren't portrayed negatively. Primarily because the Dreddverse is an extreme CrapsackWorld that has been on the brink of total destruction each time the Judges weren't there.

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* In ''Comicbook/JudgeDredd'', ''Comicbook/JudgeDredd'':
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America has been [[BalkanizeMe split]] into three independent mega-cities, each of which is a fascist police state. Somewhat atypical in that the main characters are the Judges, i.e. the ones who are ''enforcing'' the police state, yet they mostly aren't portrayed negatively. Primarily because the Dreddverse is an extreme CrapsackWorld that has been on the brink of total destruction each time the Judges weren't there.there.
** The AlternateUniverse that the [[EvilCounterpart Dark Judges]] hailed from was at first depicted ambiguously, but more recent stories have set it in a clear analogue of the United States. Somehow the fascist police state created there was even ''worse'' than in Judge Dredd's world, with the judges being closer to psychotic mass murderers than oppressive bullies.
12th Jul '17 3:02:28 PM ZimFan89
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** The US in the "Liberty Now Has A Country" timeline underwent a massive surge in the RedScare, in which the government fell under the sway of Joe [=McCarthy=] (who eventually became President) and became fervently totalitarian in the 1960s and 1970s. This resulted in a massive revolt against a J. Edgar Hoover-ruled regime in 1977, and leading to the birth of the Federated States of America.
10th Jul '17 5:41:31 PM ZimFan89
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* ''Literature/AnExaminationOfExtraUniversalSystemsOfGovernment'' has a couple of examples:
** The United States under the reign of [[PresidentEvil Edward Butler]] indiscriminately bombed Islamic countries (including nuking Mecca and Medina), tried to persecute Islam in America, and placed the country under martial law in an attempt to prevent anyone from opposing or impeaching the Butler regime. Fortunately, Butler's regime didn't last long, and America fell into rebellion, utterly dissolving the United States, with nearly all the former states joining the North American Union, while Butler set up a GovernmentInExile in Guantanamo.
** The United States in the world of "The Eagle in Exile" is described as a "right-wing Soviet Union" after a revolution turned the country into an autocratic state dominated by the military and the "Tea Party Coalition." This caused Americans living overseas and in exile to form the American Overseas Republic.
1st Jul '17 3:07:33 AM WanderingBrowser
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* The ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'' series. Before the [[WorldWarIII Great War]], the United States government had become increasingly paranoid and militaristic in the face of the resource shortages and the Sino-American War. Going so far as to censor speech and secretly nationalizing companies. The Enclave (the éminence grise of the federal government) exacerbated geopolitical relations and ignored the Constitution of the United States, put into motion a series of unconstitutional, inhumane, and war criminal projects; (For example; the robobrain manufacturing process - id est human brains, the various Vault experiments, the Forced Evolutionary Virus experiments, the various bio weapons programs, et cetera). While [[AfterTheEnd after the war]], they were willing to cause global genocide to achieve its goals of wiping out communism and becoming the sole heirs of the planet.

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* The ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'' series. Before the [[WorldWarIII Great War]], the United States government had become increasingly paranoid and militaristic in the face of the resource shortages and the Sino-American War. Going so far as to censor speech and secretly nationalizing companies. The Enclave (the éminence grise of the federal government) exacerbated geopolitical relations and ignored the Constitution of the United States, put into motion a series of unconstitutional, inhumane, and war criminal projects; (For example; the robobrain manufacturing process - id est human brains, -- where factories were set up to extract the brains ''from living people'' to be used for expendable robot processors, the various Vault experiments, the Forced Evolutionary Virus experiments, the various bio weapons programs, et cetera). While [[AfterTheEnd after the war]], they were willing to cause global genocide to achieve its goals of wiping out communism and becoming the sole heirs of the planet.


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* In ''VideoGame/WolfensteinTheNewOrder'', the Allies lost World War II because the Nazis came up with super-science weapons that allowed them to devastate Britain and America, which surrendered after Washington was nuked. Overlaps with FallenStatesOfAmerica.
** Sequel game ''VideoGame/WolfensteinIITheNewColossus'' takes place in the conquered America, and shows this side of the trope. Nazi rule is absolute, forcing people to assimilate Germanic culture and adhere to Nazi standards (such as reducing Afro-Americans to slavery). It's also implied that the UsefulNotes/KuKluxKlan is not only actively out and in force, but may be legitimized or at least supported by the Nazis.
25th Jun '17 12:59:03 PM Morgenthaler
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* ''Literature/TheLongWalk'': The United States has become a dictatorship under the control of the Major and his SecretPolice after the country lost World War II (note that the U.S. is still independent, since it appears the Axis Powers only performed skirmish campaigns in the Americas). The regime keeps the population docile with the annual [[DeadlyGame Long Walk]], where 100 teenage boys are forced on a grueling marathon and killed one by one.
18th Jun '17 9:40:54 PM DastardlyDemolition
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* The first half of ''Literature/{{Victoria}}'' has the United States [[FallenStatesOfAmerica turn into]] [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad overly politically correct]] and repressive state (in part due to Cultural Marxists spreading things like rap, feminism, and neopaganism) where people are sued heavily for something as simple as smoking and other people being nearby. This leads to riots in the streets, militia uprisings, and roving gangs in big cities and ends with a very suspicious-looking terrorist attack that blows Washington D.C. off the map and kills off a majority of the Presidential line of succession. The second half is about the aftermath, following the (''very'' debatably) heroic successor state of Victoria as it conquers rival successor states with its militia forces and sheer unpredictability.

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* The first half of ''Literature/{{Victoria}}'' has the United States [[FallenStatesOfAmerica turn into]] an [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad overly politically correct]] and repressive state (in part due to Cultural Marxists spreading things like rap, feminism, and neopaganism) where people are sued heavily for something as simple as smoking and other people being nearby. This leads to riots in the streets, militia uprisings, and roving gangs in big cities and ends with a very suspicious-looking terrorist attack that blows Washington D.C. off the map and kills off a majority of the Presidential line of succession. The second half is about the aftermath, following the (''very'' debatably) heroic successor state of Victoria as it conquers rival successor states with its militia forces and sheer unpredictability.
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