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26th Aug '16 4:56:12 PM pinkdalek
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** ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPortableOps'' (on which Kojima did not work) was a mostly decent game but with some questionable design decisions and a StrictlyFormula plot, and much of the reason Kojima made ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPeaceWalker'' was to push it out of the canon and into BroadStrokes.
** ''VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance'' is the most generally successful non-Kojima ''Metal Gear'' game and is praised by most ''Metal Gear'' fans and Kojima himself, but is still somewhat controversial due to the fact Kojima didn't make it (with some fans feeling its tone and gameplay misses the point of the series). Game critics gave it mixed reviews.

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** ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPortableOps'' (on which Kojima did not work) was a mostly decent game solid, well-received game, but with some questionable design decisions and a StrictlyFormula plot, plot which {{Retcon}}ned the backstory of a very popular character to shoehorn him into the game, and much of the reason Kojima made ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPeaceWalker'' was to push it out of the canon and into BroadStrokes.
BroadStrokes. ''Portable Ops'' was considered a really good game at the time of release and had glowing reviews, but once ''Peace Walker'' came out it started to be remembered much more negatively. Few will defend it now.
** ''VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance'' is the most generally successful non-Kojima ''Metal Gear'' game and is praised by most ''Metal Gear'' fans and Kojima himself, but is still somewhat controversial due to the fact Kojima didn't make it (with some fans feeling its tone and gameplay [[AesopAmnesia misses the point of the series). series]]). Game critics gave it mixed reviews.reviews.
** ''VideoGame/MetalGearSurvive'' was met with near-universal mockery and disdain when it was announced. The first ''Metal Gear'' game developed after Creator/HideoKojima's sacking from Konami, even the fans who might have liked the premise were unwilling to give it any good faith.
25th Aug '16 4:44:11 AM JamesAustin
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* ''Film/TheBourneSeries'': ZigZagged with MyRealDaddy, as one may argue that the Bourne series [[HasTwoMommies has two daddies]] with directors Doug Liman and Paul Greengrass. With ''Film/TheBourneIdentity'', Liman gave the film a unique style, but it was Greengrass who would flesh it out in its sequels ''Film/TheBourneSupremacy'' and ''Film/TheBourneUltimatum'', with Liman still involved as executive producer, garnering even greater acclaim. But when Greengrass turned down the offer to direct ''Film/TheBourneLegacy'', Creator/MattDamon left with him, saying he wouldn't do any more movies without him, and Liman left too. This is part of why ''Legacy'' hasn't been as well-received as its predecessors.
** Though it should be noted that Tony Gilroy wrote all four films (and directed ''Legacy'').

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* ''Film/TheBourneSeries'': ZigZagged with MyRealDaddy, as one may argue that the Bourne series [[HasTwoMommies has two daddies]] with directors Doug Liman Creator/DougLiman and Paul Greengrass.Creator/PaulGreengrass. With ''Film/TheBourneIdentity'', Liman gave the film a unique style, but it was Greengrass who would flesh it out in its sequels ''Film/TheBourneSupremacy'' and ''Film/TheBourneUltimatum'', with Liman still involved as executive producer, garnering even greater acclaim. But when Greengrass turned down the offer to direct ''Film/TheBourneLegacy'', Creator/MattDamon left with him, saying he wouldn't do any more movies without him, and Liman left too. This is part of why ''Legacy'' hasn't been as well-received as its predecessors.
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predecessors. Though it should be noted that Tony Gilroy wrote all four films (and directed ''Legacy'').
16th Aug '16 12:58:32 PM DragonRanger
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* The first two ''Film/XMen'' films were directed by Creator/BryanSinger, while the third one, ''Film/XMenTheLastStand'', was helmed by Brett Ratner, and is considered by many fans to be a huge step down in quality. ''Film/XMenFirstClass'', which was produced and co-written by Singer, was much better received. Ultimately cemented with ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' by having Singer back in the director's chair and getting an overwhelmingly positive reception, with many calling it the best in the franchise so far. ''Film/XMenApocalypse'', however, proved to be much more [[LoveItOrHateIt divisive]] in comparison to Singer's previous efforts.

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* The first two ''Film/XMen'' films were directed by Creator/BryanSinger, while the third one, ''Film/XMenTheLastStand'', was helmed by Brett Ratner, and is considered by many fans to be a huge step down in quality. ''Film/XMenFirstClass'', which was produced and co-written by Singer, was much better received. Ultimately cemented with ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' by having Singer back in the director's chair and getting an overwhelmingly positive reception, with many calling it the best in the franchise so far. ''Film/XMenApocalypse'', however, proved to be much more [[LoveItOrHateIt divisive]] in comparison to Singer's previous efforts. Creator/MatthewVaughn also gets a share of credit for directing ''First Class''.



** ''X-Men'' gets the least of this, as most of the films are considered to be pretty good. Despite that, there are still people who feel that Marvel should have the rights back, either because they'd still do better or because the X-Men and MCU can strengthen each other.

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** There are mixed opinions regarding this when it comes to the ''X-Men'' gets films. On the least of this, as most of one hand, Marvel has done well with the films are considered MCU and having the X-Men film rights would open them up to be pretty good. Despite that, there are still people who crossovers that both sides could benefit from. On the other hand, some feel that Marvel should have Fox (or at least Singer and Vaughn) hasn't done badly with their X-Men films, and that the rights back, either because they'd still do franchise's "oppressed minority" metaphor works better or because the X-Men and MCU can strengthen each other.when there aren't a bunch of other superhumans running around.



** In the case of ''Daredevil'', the MCU-set [[Series/{{Daredevil|2015}} Netflix series]] really was received better than [[Film/{{Daredevil}} the Fox movie]], reinforcing the view. The same goes for Season Two's treatment of the Punisher, which received high praise when [[Film/ThePunisher1989 his]] [[Film/ThePunisher2004 own]] [[Film/PunisherWarZone movies]] didn't. Elektra, also debuting in Season Two, didn't get the same universal praise the Punisher did, but it's probably safe to say that it was a better response than [[Film/{{Elektra}} her own movie]] got.

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** In the case of ''Daredevil'', the MCU-set [[Series/{{Daredevil|2015}} Netflix series]] really was received better than [[Film/{{Daredevil}} the Fox movie]], reinforcing the view. The same goes for Season Two's treatment of the Punisher, which received high praise when [[Film/ThePunisher1989 his]] [[Film/ThePunisher2004 own]] [[Film/PunisherWarZone movies]] didn't.didn't; even earning him his own spinoff show. Elektra, also debuting in Season Two, didn't get the same universal praise the Punisher did, but it's probably safe to say that it was a better response than [[Film/{{Elektra}} her own movie]] got.
16th Aug '16 5:46:35 AM tvinsomne
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** This trope was invoked from the moment the movie was conceived by Speilburg and Kubrick ''towards each other''. Kubrick didn't think he had the heart to pull it off and believed Spielburg was the better man for the job, while Spielburg didn't think he had the artistic finesse and insisted Kubrick should direct. The two might still be volleying the idea back and forth to this day if Kubrick hadn't passed away.

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** This trope was invoked from the moment the movie was conceived by Speilburg Spielberg and Kubrick ''towards each other''. Kubrick didn't think he had the heart to pull it off and believed Spielburg Spielberg was the better man for the job, while Spielburg Spielberg didn't think he had the artistic finesse and insisted Kubrick should direct. The two might still be volleying the idea back and forth to this day if Kubrick hadn't passed away.
8th Aug '16 5:23:22 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* The ''{{Franchise/Halo}}'' franchise ended up being sold to Microsoft in return for {{Creator/Bungie}} being able to split from them. Creator/MicrosoftStudios created a studio for making new ''Halo'' games called Creator/ThreeFourThreeIndustries, and BrokenBase ensued.
** The BrokenBase was very much there the moment Bungie itself was brought out by Microsoft. There are those that complain that Microsoft restricted Bungie and forced them to crank out the ''Halo'' series. On the other hand, there is also an equally vocal side saying that Microsoft rescued Bungie from bankruptcy and gave them needed kicks in the ass whenever delays occured in the development of the ''Halo'' games.

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* The ''{{Franchise/Halo}}'' franchise ended up being sold to Microsoft in return for {{Creator/Bungie}} being able to split from them. Creator/MicrosoftStudios created a studio for making new ''Halo'' games called Creator/ThreeFourThreeIndustries, and an already BrokenBase ensued.
** The BrokenBase was very much there the moment Bungie itself was brought out by Microsoft. There are those that complain that Microsoft restricted Bungie and forced them to crank out the ''Halo'' series. On the other hand, there is also an equally vocal side saying that Microsoft rescued Bungie from bankruptcy and gave them needed kicks in the ass whenever delays occured in the development of the ''Halo'' games.
split even further.
8th Aug '16 5:21:57 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* The ''{{Franchise/Halo}}'' franchise ended up being sold to Microsoft in return for {{Creator/Bungie}} being able to split from them. Microsoft created a studio for making new ''Halo'' games called 343 Industries, and BrokenBase ensued.

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* The ''{{Franchise/Halo}}'' franchise ended up being sold to Microsoft in return for {{Creator/Bungie}} being able to split from them. Microsoft Creator/MicrosoftStudios created a studio for making new ''Halo'' games called 343 Industries, Creator/ThreeFourThreeIndustries, and BrokenBase ensued.
29th Jul '16 9:47:49 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''DukeNukem3D'''s Nuclear Winter expansion pack is generally considered the worst, and is also the only one 3D Realms didn't work on. Though it's not without reason - the first two levels are just slight rehashes of the first two levels in the base game in reverse order, and the music for every stage is Christmas carols. The level designs are also fairly boring in comparison to the other packs, and some parts are fairly similar to other levels from the original game.

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* ''DukeNukem3D'''s ''VideoGame/DukeNukem3D'''s Nuclear Winter expansion pack is generally considered the worst, and is also the only one 3D Realms didn't work on. Though it's not without reason - the first two levels are just slight rehashes of the first two levels in the base game in reverse order, and the music for every stage is Christmas carols. The level designs are also fairly boring in comparison to the other packs, and some parts are fairly similar to other levels from the original game.
27th Jul '16 12:31:06 AM Anddrix
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* ''Series/{{Supernatural}}''. Many fans blamed the seasons 6 & 7 showrunner Sera Gamble for the show's less-than-stellar state after Eric Kripke, the creator and original showrunner, stepped down (though Kripke still had some input on the show). After season 7, Gamble also stepped down and was replaced by Jeremy Carver. Whether or not he's doing better than her is a bit of a BaseBreaker amongst the fandom, but both are generally seen as inferior to Kripke.

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* ''Series/{{Supernatural}}''. Many fans blamed the seasons 6 & 7 showrunner Sera Gamble for the show's less-than-stellar state after Eric Kripke, the creator and original showrunner, stepped down (though Kripke still had some input on the show). After season 7, Gamble also stepped down and was replaced by Jeremy Carver. Whether or not he's doing better than her is a bit of a BaseBreaker divisive amongst the fandom, but both are generally seen as inferior to Kripke.
23rd Jul '16 1:10:19 AM WickedIcon
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*** That said, there are some circles that find the first three movies overly safe and toothless, and consider the Breaking Dawn movies to be the true SoBadItsGood ones. [[InternetBackdraft It's a pretty divisive topic.]]
16th Jul '16 1:13:49 PM Prometheus117
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** This view only seemed to grow after season 3's even more mixed reception (she left the show entirely), which peaked after the finale and '''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls.

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** This view only seemed to grow after season 3's even more mixed reception (she left the show entirely), which peaked after the finale and '''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls.'''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirls''. The view started to cool down after the mostly positive receptions of seasons 4 and 5, as well as ''Equestria Girls'' sequels ''Rainbow Rocks'' and ''The Friendship Games'', with the debate now being whether the show was better pre- or post-Faust's supervision.
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