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16th Nov '17 10:11:49 AM Circeus
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* [[http://maverlok.tumblr.com/post/166658887269/so-if-my-students-finish-a-quiztest-early-i-ask As reported]] by a {{Tumblr}} user that teaches Latin:
--> My students kept forgetting how to conjugate ''esse'', so I turned it into a rhythmic chant that I had them say over and over. The problem is that when you chant ANYTHING in Latin it sounds like youíre summoning a demon, which they decided was awesome, so uh. Now Iíll just be randomly walking through the hallway and hear voices chanting, ď''sum es est! sumus estis sunt!''Ē
-->Iím 99% sure my colleagues think Iíve started a cult.
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7th Nov '17 11:58:41 AM fgenzo159
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* ''Film/TheNameOfTheRose'' has four of them in-universe, used to make the abbey more realistic.
26th Oct '17 9:45:53 AM ajoajoajoaj
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* The ''Film/LordOfTheRings'' movies feature ominous chanting in a variety of languages, including the languages that Tolkien made up himself as the main purpose of writing the stories in the first place. Some of the songs were even composed by Tolkien himself. The words for lyrics of some original songs, other the hand, had to be improvised by linguists working on the film because of the meagre examples of languages other than Elvish that Tolien left in his writings.

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* The ''Film/LordOfTheRings'' movies feature ominous chanting in a variety of languages, including the languages that Tolkien made up himself as the main purpose of writing the stories in the first place. Some of the songs were even composed by Tolkien himself. The words for lyrics of some original songs, other the hand, had to be improvised by linguists working on the film because of the meagre examples of non-Elvish languages other than Elvish that Tolien Tolkien left behind in his writings.
26th Oct '17 9:44:21 AM ajoajoajoaj
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Latin is probably the most familiar dead language due to its being the ancestor of modern Romance languages (even though English is a Germanic language, it still has a major proportion of Latin influence, primarily through French and science), and its prominence and impact on modern culture make it easy to fact-check. Nevertheless, Ancient Greek, Sanskrit, Hebrew and others are sometimes used to similar effect. If a work is set in Russia or the Soviet Union, expect Ominous ''Slavic'' Chanting.[[note]]Bonus points if it's in Church Slavonic, an extinct, highly archaic Slavic language which stands in cultural & linguistic relationship to the Orthodox Church, Bulgarian and Russian as Latin does to the Roman Catholic Church, French and English respectively.[[/note]] Eastern-style chanting is also having a surge in popularity, possibly due to the increase in stories featuring conflicts between Eastern and Western worlds. Creators that went to the trouble of [[{{Conlang}} inventing their own language]] for a work will likely find a way to feature it in this manner too. There's also a chance that the music only reminds one of ominous Latin chanting, opting to use "ooh", "aah", "ooo", and the like. Indeed, the lyrics don't need to mean anything; for the majority of the audience, [[CanisLatinicus Ominous Latin-Sounding Gibberish]] works just as well.

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Latin is probably the most familiar dead language due to its being the ancestor of modern Romance languages (even though English is a Germanic language, it still has a major proportion of Latin influence, primarily through French and science), and its prominence and impact on modern culture make it easy to fact-check. Nevertheless, Ancient Greek, Sanskrit, Hebrew and others are sometimes used to similar effect. If a work is set in Russia or the Soviet Union, expect Ominous ''Slavic'' Chanting.[[note]]Bonus points if it's in Church Slavonic, an extinct, highly archaic Slavic language which stands in cultural cultural, functional & linguistic relationship to the Orthodox Church, Church and the Bulgarian and Russian languages as Latin does to the Roman Catholic Church, Church and the French and English languages respectively.[[/note]] Eastern-style chanting is also having a surge in popularity, possibly due to the increase in stories featuring conflicts between Eastern and Western worlds. Creators that went to the trouble of [[{{Conlang}} inventing their own language]] for a work will likely find a way to feature it in this manner too. There's also a chance that the music only reminds one of ominous Latin chanting, opting to use "ooh", "aah", "ooo", and the like. Indeed, the lyrics don't need to mean anything; for the majority of the audience, [[CanisLatinicus Ominous Latin-Sounding Gibberish]] works just as well.



* The ''Film/LordOfTheRings'' movies feature ominous chanting in a variety of languages, including the languages that Tolkien made up himself as the main purpose of writing the stories in the first place. Some of the songs were even composed by Tolkien himself.

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* The ''Film/LordOfTheRings'' movies feature ominous chanting in a variety of languages, including the languages that Tolkien made up himself as the main purpose of writing the stories in the first place. Some of the songs were even composed by Tolkien himself. The words for lyrics of some original songs, other the hand, had to be improvised by linguists working on the film because of the meagre examples of languages other than Elvish that Tolien left in his writings.


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***Strictly speaking, Adûnaic wasn't an Elven language but the languages of the Men of Númenor, Tolkien's equivalent of Atlantis, which in itself is based on Semitic rather than the Latin/Finnish mix of Quenya Elvish described above. Nevertheless, the Adûnaic language is heavily influenced by both Quenya & Sindarin Elvish, and Númenoreans themselves were close allies and cultural imitators of the Elves, at least until [[FaceHeelTurn they were corrupted by the cunning of Sauron]], leading to their destruction save for those few who stayed loyal to the Elves, and ultimately giving (re)birth to the Nazgul themselves.
26th Oct '17 9:21:12 AM ajoajoajoaj
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Latin is probably the most familiar dead language due to its being the ancestor of modern Romance languages (even though English is a Germanic language, it still has a major proportion of Latin influence, primarily through French and science), and its prominence and impact on modern culture make it easy to fact-check. Nevertheless, Ancient Greek, Sanskrit, Hebrew and others are sometimes used to similar effect. If a work is set in Russia or the Soviet Union, expect Ominous ''Slavic'' Chanting. Eastern-style chanting is also having a surge in popularity, possibly due to the increase in stories featuring conflicts between Eastern and Western worlds. Creators that went to the trouble of [[{{Conlang}} inventing their own language]] for a work will likely find a way to feature it in this manner too. There's also a chance that the music only reminds one of ominous Latin chanting, opting to use "ooh", "aah", "ooo", and the like. Indeed, the lyrics don't need to mean anything; for the majority of the audience, [[CanisLatinicus Ominous Latin-Sounding Gibberish]] works just as well.

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Latin is probably the most familiar dead language due to its being the ancestor of modern Romance languages (even though English is a Germanic language, it still has a major proportion of Latin influence, primarily through French and science), and its prominence and impact on modern culture make it easy to fact-check. Nevertheless, Ancient Greek, Sanskrit, Hebrew and others are sometimes used to similar effect. If a work is set in Russia or the Soviet Union, expect Ominous ''Slavic'' Chanting. [[note]]Bonus points if it's in Church Slavonic, an extinct, highly archaic Slavic language which stands in cultural & linguistic relationship to the Orthodox Church, Bulgarian and Russian as Latin does to the Roman Catholic Church, French and English respectively.[[/note]] Eastern-style chanting is also having a surge in popularity, possibly due to the increase in stories featuring conflicts between Eastern and Western worlds. Creators that went to the trouble of [[{{Conlang}} inventing their own language]] for a work will likely find a way to feature it in this manner too. There's also a chance that the music only reminds one of ominous Latin chanting, opting to use "ooh", "aah", "ooo", and the like. Indeed, the lyrics don't need to mean anything; for the majority of the audience, [[CanisLatinicus Ominous Latin-Sounding Gibberish]] works just as well.
22nd Oct '17 11:55:23 AM nighttrainfm
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* ''KingdomHearts'' fanfic ''Fanfic/ThoseLackingSpines'' played this trope for laughs when the sinister [[OverusedCopycatCharacter Jeffiroth]] made his appearance to thwart our heroes, accompanied by an orchestra and choir that had appeared from nowhere and a helicopter airdropping Nobuo Uematsu to direct them both in a parody of "One-Winged Angel".

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* ''KingdomHearts'' ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' fanfic ''Fanfic/ThoseLackingSpines'' played this trope for laughs when the sinister [[OverusedCopycatCharacter Jeffiroth]] made his appearance to thwart our heroes, accompanied by an orchestra and choir that had appeared from nowhere and a helicopter airdropping Nobuo Uematsu to direct them both in a parody of "One-Winged Angel".



** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7wJ8pE2qKU "One-Winged Angel"]] ([[OneWingedAngel yes, that one]]), the FinalBoss theme from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'', is in Latin. With the exception of the repetition of Sephiroth's name, the lyrics are taken from sections of ''Carmina Burana''. This music was updated somewhat as a BonusBoss fight in ''KingdomHearts.'' When the one and only Sephiroth made his film debut in the spinoff ''Advent Children'', however, his theme song was given a massive makeover, complete with new lyrics (underlining the character's themes), a more operatic tone, and ''[[AutobotsRockOut blazing electric guitars.]]''

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** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7wJ8pE2qKU "One-Winged Angel"]] ([[OneWingedAngel yes, that one]]), the FinalBoss theme from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'', is in Latin. With the exception of the repetition of Sephiroth's name, the lyrics are taken from sections of ''Carmina Burana''. This music was updated somewhat as a for his two BonusBoss fight fights in ''KingdomHearts.'' the ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' series. When the one and only Sephiroth made his film debut in the spinoff ''Advent Children'', however, his theme song was given a massive makeover, complete with new lyrics (underlining the character's themes), a more operatic tone, and ''[[AutobotsRockOut blazing electric guitars.]]''
19th Oct '17 12:52:57 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* Spoofed in ''Film/HotFuzz'', just like everything else. WordOfGod states the words are "bonum commune communitatis," "for the greater good of the community."
** Played absolutely straight with the inclusion of "Dies Irae" in the run-up to [[spoiler: Tim Messenger's death.]]

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* ''Film/HotFuzz''
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Spoofed in ''Film/HotFuzz'', just like everything else.when members of the conspiracy are discovered chanting Latin. WordOfGod states the words are "bonum commune communitatis," "for the greater good of the community."
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** Played absolutely straight with the inclusion of "Dies Irae" in the run-up to [[spoiler: Tim Messenger's death.]]



* Verdi's "Dies Irae" is the main opening theme to the ''Film/BattleRoyale'' film.
** It also sees play during the attack of the Regulators (the forerunners of TheKlan) in ''Film/DjangoUnchained.''

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* Verdi's "Dies Irae" is the main opening theme to the ''Film/BattleRoyale'' film.
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film. It also sees play during the attack of the Regulators (the forerunners of TheKlan) in ''Film/DjangoUnchained.''



** Subverted, though, in two of the Arwen-related songs, which use English: when she prays for Frodo right after crossing the river Bruinen, entering Rivendell in ''The Fellowship of the Ring''; and in the Houses of Healing, in the Extended Edition of ''The Return of the King'', which has Liv Tyler herself singing it (the scene isn't related to Arwen, but it was first composed for a scene that was).



* ''Film/TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey'' features, as the monolith music, Ligeti's Requiem mass. The lyrics are "Kýrie, eléison; Christé, eléison; Kýrie, eléison", repeated in a loop -- except each syllable is dragged a lot, and the different vocal ensembles don't sing together, adding to the confusion.
** His composition "Lux Aeterna" also appears, as the background music during Heywood Floyd's trip to the moon. It's not as ominous, though.

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* ''Film/TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey'' features, as the monolith music, Ligeti's Requiem mass. The lyrics are "Kýrie, eléison; Christé, eléison; Kýrie, eléison", repeated in a loop -- except each syllable is dragged a lot, and the different vocal ensembles don't sing together, adding to the confusion.
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confusion. His composition "Lux Aeterna" also appears, as the background music during Heywood Floyd's trip to the moon. It's not as ominous, though.



* In French movie ''Film/LesVisiteurs'', Ominous Latin Chanting is part of main theme: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24L_UjuxxAQ Enae Volare]]. Fitting with the Middle Age setting, but less with the movie genre, which is a comedy.
** To be precise, it's Ominous [[AsLongAsItSoundsForeign Pseudo-Latino-Romanesque-sounding language]] chanting.
* Used in ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga''. Hans Zimmer put [[http://www.ujam.com/campaigns/darkknightrises/introduction a link out]] that allowed anyone to record themselves doing the chanting he used in ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises''.
** The Arabic phrase used as the chant, Deshi Basara, translates as "he rises" and is very thematically important. [[spoiler:It's also used in-universe as a chant in Bane's prison when someone tries to make the climb to escape.]]

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* In French movie ''Film/LesVisiteurs'', Ominous Latin Chanting [[AsLongAsItSoundsForeign Pseudo-Latino-Romanesque-sounding language]] chanting is part of main theme: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24L_UjuxxAQ Enae Volare]]. Fitting with the Middle Age setting, but less with the movie genre, which is a comedy.
** To be precise, it's Ominous [[AsLongAsItSoundsForeign Pseudo-Latino-Romanesque-sounding language]] chanting.
* Used in ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga''. Hans Zimmer put [[http://www.ujam.com/campaigns/darkknightrises/introduction a link out]] that allowed anyone to record themselves doing the chanting he used in ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises''.
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''Film/TheDarkKnightRises''. The Arabic phrase used as the chant, Deshi Basara, translates as "he rises" and is very thematically important. [[spoiler:It's also used in-universe as a chant in Bane's prison when someone tries to make the climb to escape.]]
10th Oct '17 1:07:04 PM Tropetastic1995
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** Frieza gets a nice [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhCn_q04qBk theme song]] in ''[[Manga/DragonBall Dragon Ball Kai]]'' that includes Ominous Japanese Chanting in its intro.

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** Frieza gets a nice Starting with ''[[Manga/DragonBall Dragon Ball Kai]]'' all of Frieza's [[LeifMotif Leif Motifs]] have this, as befitting of an epic cosmic emperor. There is his ''Kai' [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhCn_q04qBk theme song]] song]], his [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9ZDwUXi8h4 resurrection]] theme song in ''[[Manga/DragonBall Dragon Ball Kai]]'' that includes Ominous Japanese Chanting in its intro.''Super'', and his [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juXOFwKDXgs Golden Frieza theme]].
9th Oct '17 9:36:25 AM DJfrog99
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* The anime adaptation of ''[[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureStardustCrusaders Stardust Crusaders]]'' has [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N96g6ehwscY Decisive Battle]], which pulls out the chorus about a minute in.

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* ** The anime adaptation of ''[[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureStardustCrusaders Stardust Crusaders]]'' has [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N96g6ehwscY Decisive Battle]], which pulls out the chorus about a minute in.
9th Oct '17 9:20:49 AM DJfrog99
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* The anime adaptation of ''[[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureStardustCrusaders Stardust Crusaders]]'' has [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N96g6ehwscY Decisive Battle]], which pulls out the chorus about a minute in.
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