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8th Apr '16 5:26:01 PM ike755
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* ''{{Literature/Moonflowers}}'' evokes this: TheFairFolk have averted getting HijackedByJesus, as [[TheWildHunt the Hunter]] mocks Irish Christianity for "taking the old ways and wrapping them in flimsy little excuses." Holy-water has a very small effect on the river-spirit Maidin, since he only complains that it makes his arm itch ([[NiceGuy but he's much friendlier than the Hunter and even helps with Christian baptisms]]). Alloys like steel and titanium are ineffective when fighting the Folk, as ColdIron is one of their traditional weaknesses. Later on, the Fianna use obsidian weaponry when trying to kill the Hunter in the Otherworld, because the Folk would smell too much ColdIron on them. Not quite a cut-and-dry case of OlderIsBetter, as one of the main points is [[BlueAndOrangeMorality how strange and incomprehensible the Fair Folk are.]][[/folder]]

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* ''{{Literature/Moonflowers}}'' evokes this: TheFairFolk have averted getting HijackedByJesus, as [[TheWildHunt the Hunter]] mocks Irish Christianity for "taking the old ways and wrapping them in flimsy little excuses." Holy-water has a very small effect on the river-spirit Maidin, since he only complains that it makes his arm itch ([[NiceGuy but he's much friendlier than the Hunter and even helps with Christian baptisms]]). Alloys like steel and titanium are ineffective when fighting the Folk, as ColdIron is one of their traditional weaknesses. Later on, the Fianna use obsidian weaponry when trying to kill the Hunter in the Otherworld, because the Folk would smell too much ColdIron on them. Not quite a cut-and-dry case of OlderIsBetter, as one of the main points is [[BlueAndOrangeMorality how strange and incomprehensible the Fair Folk are.]][[/folder]]
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* In ''{{Dragon Ball Z Abridged}}'', [[JerkAss Super Kami Guru]] encourages Nail to fight [[BigBad Freeza]] by reminding him he had been trained in the "ancient ways". After Nail and Freeza fly off to the battleground, the Grand Elder drops this bomb:
-->Super Kami Guru: "Fool. If he had been trained in the NEW way, he might have stood a chance."
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25th Mar '16 1:39:02 AM thatmadork
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** Also averted with da Orks. Most of their weapons technology lags well behind that of the other races of course, but they're astonishingly resourceful, constantly inventing ever crazier designs and incorporating other race's technology into their own, at times looting enemy vehicles and weaponry and "making it Orky". They cribbed teleporters and tractor beams off the Imperium only a few centuries ago and now, much to the Techpriest's chagrin, they can build them better than humanity can. Some reports from out of the Eastern Fringe imply they're even starting to get the hang of Tau technology.
4th Mar '16 3:00:23 PM DVB
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** Although in Asura and in Excalibur's case, both are [[spoiler: part of the [[EldritchAbomination "Great Old Ones." They are beings so powerful their sheer presence releases a form of madness, with others including Shinigami-sama himself. Furthermore, Asura is the child of Shinigami (born when he cast his fear away.)]] While its unsure how well age plays into it, their unique status ma add credence to this.

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** Although in Asura and in Excalibur's case, both are [[spoiler: part of the [[EldritchAbomination "Great Old Ones." "]] They are beings so powerful their sheer presence releases a form of madness, with others including Shinigami-sama himself. Furthermore, Asura is the child of Shinigami (born when he cast his fear away.)]] While its unsure how well age plays into it, their unique status ma add credence to this.
4th Mar '16 3:00:00 PM DVB
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** Although in Asura and in Excalibur's case, both are [[spoiler: part of the [[EldritchAbomination "Great Old Ones." They are beings so powerful their sheer presence releases a form of madness, with others including Shinigami-sama himself. Furthermore, Asura is the child of Shinigami (born when he cast his fear away.)]] While its unsure how well age plays into it, their unique status ma add credence to this.


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** Then compared them to Achnologia, a former Dragon Slayer who is now a Dragon and an anciently powerful being.
29th Feb '16 12:38:24 PM Nargrakhan
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** This occurred again when the Beretta M9 replaced the [=M1911A1=] as the standard side arm of the US military. Early Berettas suffered from a slide failure that could injure the shooter and damage the pistol. When the gun was taken into combat for Iraq and Afghanistan, there were was significant dissatisfaction about it's stopping power. In 2015 the US Army officially rejected continuation of the Beretta, and is now on course for another sidearm. Ironically enough, there's talk of bringing back the [=M1911A1=] using modern materials.

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** This occurred again when the Beretta M9 replaced the [=M1911A1=] as the standard side arm of the US military. Early Berettas suffered from a slide failure that could injure the shooter and damage the pistol. When the gun was taken into combat for Iraq and Afghanistan, there were was significant dissatisfaction about it's stopping power. In 2015 the US Army officially rejected continuation of the Beretta, and is now on course for another sidearm. Ironically enough, In the spirit of this trope, there's talk of bringing back the [=M1911A1=] using modern materials.
29th Feb '16 12:37:34 PM Nargrakhan
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** This occurred again when the Beretta M9 replaced the M1911A1 as the standard side arm of the US military. Early Berettas suffered from a slide failure that could injure the shooter. When the gun was taken into combat for Iraq and Afghanistan, there were was significant dissatisfaction about it's stopping power. In 2015 the US Army officially rejected continuation of the Beretta, and is now on course for another sidearm.

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** This occurred again when the Beretta M9 replaced the M1911A1 [=M1911A1=] as the standard side arm of the US military. Early Berettas suffered from a slide failure that could injure the shooter.shooter and damage the pistol. When the gun was taken into combat for Iraq and Afghanistan, there were was significant dissatisfaction about it's stopping power. In 2015 the US Army officially rejected continuation of the Beretta, and is now on course for another sidearm. Ironically enough, there's talk of bringing back the [=M1911A1=] using modern materials.
29th Feb '16 12:34:25 PM Nargrakhan
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** This occurred again when the Beretta M9 replaced the M1911A1 as the standard side arm of the US military. Early Berettas suffered from a slide failure that could injure the shooter. When the gun was taken into combat for Iraq and Afghanistan, there were was significant dissatisfaction about it's stopping power. In 2015 the US Army officially rejected continuation of the Beretta, and is now on course for another sidearm.
27th Feb '16 9:13:29 PM shadowbeast
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* Harley-Davidson products are often derided as being technologically behind, though in truth the technology has in fact developed frequently; the bike on the showroom floor today is not (depending on circumstances) the same bike your grandfather rode during the Second World War, which in turn was not the same bike that first sputtered to life in 1903. You may like new Japanese or European motorcycles for their modern appearance, but there is a reason there is no such culture built up around Honda as there is around Harley-Davidson. Many prefer older engines or models, convinced of their superiority despite all evidence to the contrary. One female rider was constantly harassed by her younger brother over her choice to ride a modern Harley powered by an Evo engine, while he still rode a Shovelhead-powered bike. One day she brought another Evo rider home, who averted the trope by stopping the tirade with a tale of how he had had to tow the Shovel-riding brother home with his Evo, after the Shovelhead had broken down...

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* Harley-Davidson products are often derided as being technologically behind, though in truth the technology has in fact developed frequently; the bike on the showroom floor today is not (depending on circumstances) the same bike your grandfather rode during the Second World War, which in turn was not the same bike that first sputtered to life in 1903. You may like new Japanese or European motorcycles for their modern appearance, but there is a reason there is no such culture built up around Honda as there is around Harley-Davidson. Many prefer older engines or models, convinced of their superiority despite all evidence to the contrary. One female rider was constantly harassed by her younger brother over her choice to ride a modern Harley powered by an Evo engine, while he still rode a Shovelhead-powered bike. One day she brought another Evo rider home, who averted the trope by stopping the tirade with a tale of how he had had to tow the Shovel-riding brother home with his Evo, after the Shovelhead had broken down...
27th Feb '16 9:12:46 PM shadowbeast
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* Harley-Davidson products are often derided as being technologically behind, though in truth the technology has in fact developed frequently; the bike on the showroom floor today is not (depending on circumstances) the same bike your grandfather rode during the Second World War, which in turn was not the same bike that first sputtered to life in 1903. You may like new Japanese or European motorcycles for their modern appearance, but there is a reason there is no such culture built up around Honda as there is around Harley-Davidson. Many prefer older engines or models, convinced of their superiority despite all evidence to the contrary. One female rider was constantly harassed by her younger brother over her choice to ride a modern Harley powered by an Evo engine, while he still rode a Shovelhead-powered bike. One day she brought another Evo rider home, who averted the trope by stopping the tirade with a tale of how he had had to tow the Shovel-riding brother home with his Evo, after the Shovelhead had broken down...
3rd Feb '16 10:23:14 AM ChronoLegion
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* In ''VideoGame/GroundControl II: Operation Exodus'', as massive [[PlanetTerra Terran]] [[TheEmpire Empire]] fleet is in orbit of the last free [[TheAlliance Northern Star Alliance]] planet, Morningstar Prime, with the remaining NSA cities and forces withstanding daily OrbitalBombardment and constant invasion attempts. Then NSA scientists discover the location of the CSS ''Astrid'', a 300 hundred year old cruiser left over from the heyday of the [[MegaCorp Crayven Corporation]] (one of the galactic powers destroyed by the Empire centuries ago). The ''Astrid'' turns out to be large enough to evacuate much of the remaining population of Morningstar Prime, and her shields are strong enough to withstand the combined firepower of the Terran fleet for hours. One wonders what the ship could have done, if her weapons were still functional. It seems the outer colonies were not the only ones who underwent technological regression of those centuries.
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