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20th Sep '17 4:37:41 PM DastardlyDemolition
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** ''Usually''. ''VideoGame/{{FalloutTactics}}'' and ''VideoGame/{{Fallout4}}'' shows that the Brotherhood of Steel have the means to construct airships despite the state of post-War America but still rely on pre-War vehicles. The Institute of ''VideoGame/{{Fallout4}}'' zigzag this: they can and have made [[DeceptivelyHumanRobots robots]] and [[ArtificialHuman synthetic humans]] that can pass off as normal people and even ''synthetic gorillas'' but the problem is that the robots are often more dim than pre-War robots an the laser pistols and rifles they are given are actually bigger and fire weaker shots than pre-War laser weapons, like those used by the Brotherhood of Steel.

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** ''Usually''. ''VideoGame/{{FalloutTactics}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Fallout Tactics}}'' and ''VideoGame/{{Fallout4}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'' shows that the Brotherhood of Steel have the means to construct airships despite the state of post-War America but still rely on pre-War vehicles. The Institute of ''VideoGame/{{Fallout4}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'' zigzag this: they can and have made [[DeceptivelyHumanRobots robots]] and [[ArtificialHuman synthetic humans]] that can pass off as normal people and even ''synthetic gorillas'' but the problem is that the robots are often more dim than pre-War robots an the laser pistols and rifles they are given are actually bigger and fire weaker shots than pre-War laser weapons, like those used by the Brotherhood of Steel.
20th Sep '17 4:35:10 PM DastardlyDemolition
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** ''Usually''. ''VideoGame/{{FalloutTactics}}'' and ''VideoGame/{{Fallout4}}'' shows that the Brotherhood of Steel have the means to construct airships despite the state of post-War America but still rely on pre-War vehicles. The Institute of ''VideoGame/{{Fallout4}}'' zigzag this: they can and have made [[DeceptivelyHumanRobots robots]] and [[ArtificialHuman synthetic humans]] that can pass off as normal people and even ''synthetic gorillas'' but the problem is that the robots are often more dim than pre-War robots an the laser pistols and rifles they are given are actually bigger and fire weaker shots than pre-War laser weapons, like those used by the Brotherhood of Steel.
16th Sep '17 3:55:23 PM nombretomado
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This idea has been popularly applied to at least one RealLife scenario: the story goes that Europe and Arabia emerged from TheDarkAges and into TheRenaissance by rediscovering the works of AncientGreece and AncientRome, re-learning technology that had been widely forgotten and disused for centuries. The romance of regaining superior wisdom of a bygone age has been a powerful driver behind this idea, even though there is much less truth in it than commonly thought. Especially in the late medieval age many areas of technology were ahead of anything the Romans ever did.

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This idea has been popularly applied to at least one RealLife scenario: the story goes that Europe and Arabia emerged from TheDarkAges and into TheRenaissance UsefulNotes/TheRenaissance by rediscovering the works of AncientGreece and AncientRome, re-learning technology that had been widely forgotten and disused for centuries. The romance of regaining superior wisdom of a bygone age has been a powerful driver behind this idea, even though there is much less truth in it than commonly thought. Especially in the late medieval age many areas of technology were ahead of anything the Romans ever did.
5th Sep '17 2:24:51 PM TheWildWestPyro
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** This occurred again when the Beretta 92F (as M9) replaced the [=M1911A1=] as the standard side arm of the US military. Early Berettas suffered from a slide failure that could injure the shooter and damage the pistol (this was rectified in subsequent models with the 92FS). When the gun was taken into combat for Iraq and Afghanistan, there were was significant dissatisfaction about it's stopping power. In 2015 the US Army officially rejected continuation of the Beretta, and is now on course for another sidearm. In the spirit of this trope, there's talk of bringing back the [=M1911A1=] using modern materials.

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** This occurred again when the Beretta 92F (as M9) replaced the [=M1911A1=] as the standard side arm of the US military. Early Berettas suffered from a slide failure that could injure the shooter and damage the pistol (this was rectified in subsequent models with the 92FS). When the gun was taken into combat for Iraq and Afghanistan, there were was significant dissatisfaction about it's stopping power. In 2015 the US Army officially rejected continuation of the Beretta, and is now on course for another sidearm.sidearm, eventually finding it in the 9x19mm SIG P320. In the spirit of this trope, there's talk of bringing back the [=M1911A1=] using modern materials.
28th Aug '17 6:50:29 AM Malady
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* [[YehudaMoonAndTheKickstandCyclery Yehuda Moon]] is a very traditional cyclists, to the point where he almost worships the Luddite-centric Lauderblumenthal Leaflet.

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* [[YehudaMoonAndTheKickstandCyclery ''Webcomic/YehudaMoonAndTheKickstandCyclery'' The titular Yehuda Moon]] Moon is a very traditional cyclists, cyclist, to the point where he almost worships the Luddite-centric Lauderblumenthal Leaflet.
7th Aug '17 11:20:03 AM Weirdoinventor
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At a certain time in Western civilization, this was TruthInTelevision: Europe and Arabia emerged from TheDarkAges and into TheRenaissance by rediscovering the works of AncientGreece and AncientRome, re-learning technology that had been widely forgotten and disused for centuries. The romance of regaining superior wisdom of a bygone age has been encoded in this trope ever since.

Today, it's no longer a JustifiedTrope in RealLife. Modern science has surpassed the philosophy of the ancients, meaning new technology is more reliable than old. However, in pseudosciences like astrology and some alternative medicines (un-touched by the scientific method), the idea persists: these ancient knowledges and traditions have been around for so long, unchanged, so that must mean that they are better than modern science! It's the same logic as with the OldMaster: if a tool has lasted for centuries and is still usable, then it must be damn good. Compare with AppealToTradition, to which this is related. [[http://web.archive.org/web/20130727103912/http://www.badmartialarts.com/myths/ancient_knowledge.php Bad Martial Arts]] has a page debunking the idea.

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At a certain time in Western civilization, this was TruthInTelevision: This idea has been popularly applied to at least one RealLife scenario: the story goes that Europe and Arabia emerged from TheDarkAges and into TheRenaissance by rediscovering the works of AncientGreece and AncientRome, re-learning technology that had been widely forgotten and disused for centuries. The romance of regaining superior wisdom of a bygone age has been encoded in a powerful driver behind this trope idea, even though there is much less truth in it than commonly thought. Especially in the late medieval age many areas of technology were ahead of anything the Romans ever since.

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Today, it's no longer definitely not a JustifiedTrope in RealLife. Modern science has surpassed the philosophy of the ancients, meaning new newly adopted technology has important advantages over older technologies. It does not have to be an improvement in all areas, but there is more reliable than old.generally an overall improvement, which is why the technology could replace older versions. However, in pseudosciences like astrology and some alternative medicines (un-touched by the scientific method), the idea persists: these ancient knowledges and traditions have been around for so long, unchanged, so that must mean that they are better than modern science! It's the same logic as with the OldMaster: if a tool has lasted for centuries and is still usable, then it must be damn good. Compare with AppealToTradition, to which this is related. [[http://web.archive.org/web/20130727103912/http://www.badmartialarts.com/myths/ancient_knowledge.php Bad Martial Arts]] has a page debunking the idea.
6th Aug '17 11:56:43 AM Kaiseror
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* ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse''
** Completely [[AvertedTrope averted]] with vehicles and weaponry as the era 1 [[WaveMotionGun laser light cannons]] can't even scuff an era 2 homeworld ship, not to mention the [[OneHitKill gem destabilizers.]]
** It is however PlayedStraight with the gems themselves which thanks to homeworld's resource shortage era 2 gems are inferior to their era 1 counterparts. For instance era 2 [[TheEngineer Peridots]] are small and lack the SuperStrength and [[SpontaneousWeaponCreation weapon summoning]] ([[spoiler:though our Peridot found out she has [[ExtraOreDinary ferrokinetic abilities]]]]) all era 1 gems possess and only have SuperToughness and reliance on technology while era 2 [[RedshirtArmy Rubies]] seem [[DumbMuscle less intelligent.]]
31st Jul '17 1:52:59 PM Caps-luna
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* Nuclear reactors still almost exclusively use analog controls and instruments, and the few that do use any digital systems always have analog back ups. Analog controls work without power and can't be hacked.
21st Jul '17 11:55:25 AM Caps-luna
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** Prior to proliferation of computers in the late fifties and sixties, it was considerably cheaper to over engineer projects than it was to hire someone to do advanced calculations to save building material. As a result many older structures are ridiculously strong by modern standards.

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** Prior to proliferation of computers in the late fifties and sixties, it was considerably cheaper to over engineer projects than it was to hire someone to do advanced calculations to save building material. As a result many older structures are ridiculously strong by modern standards. An often cited example is the comparison between Hoover Dam and the Three Gorges Dam. The Hoover Am was built in the 30s without access to computers or the same technology as the later and used a more complicated design. It hasn't cracked yet. The Three Gorges Dam however was engineered to be built quickly and use as little concrete as was needed. As was expected it formed, several non-critical cracks even though its just a long pile of cement.
21st Jul '17 11:45:51 AM Caps-luna
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* In the civilian gun industry, a lot of countries have what's called the grandfather clause, where gun control legislation doesn't apply to any gun first sold before the legislation was enacted. This means a lot of older guns in circulation have nifty little features that can't be sold on modern guns.
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